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Week 10 Start/Sit + TNF Preview, NFL Trade Reactions | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1840

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A trade-deadline hangover episode debates the Patriots' untouched backfield and whether TreVeyon Henderson's film supports the preseason hype.

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I think he has a sack on the entire year. Their commitment to DTs and not Michael Parsons is strange to me, and it's not going to fix Dallas's defense. But there you go. Two big defensive trades. Cardinals named Jacoby Brissette, the quarterback. We talked all about that already. There you go. Aaron Wilson said the expectation is Stroud is not going to play this week. Davis Mills should start for Houston. That sucks for Nico Collins. I think he'll be okay. Brian Thomas Jr. dealing with a low grade high ankle sprain. Would you rather have a low grade high angle sprain or a high grade low ankle sprain? I think you'd rather have a high grade low ankle sprain. I want to invent something that stops the old ankle sprains. I'm not sure how to do that. Ricky Pearsall evaluated this week to see if he can return to practice called the timeline fuzzy. I bet he doesn't. Yeah. I mean, him and Purdy. Like the Ricky Pearsall story now is it sucks.

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I mean, he basically played three games. It seems like the 49ers are very committed to being healthy for the playoffs and not for the regular season. But I mean, that that's a tough, that's a tough game to play. Yeah. If Mack Jones gets you to the playoffs, you're going to bench him for purdy? Shannon would. I don't know, man. Shanahan literally. Yeah, I don't know. That was News & Note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance Court today at Progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers, not available in all states or situations. Covered subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. Should take in another breath right there. All right. Thursday night briefing. I'm out of air. Thursday night breakdown. Oh, Las Vegas at 2 and 6. They take on the Denver Broncos, who are 7 and 2. The Raiders did compete against Jacksonville this past week.

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Denver, though, 9.5 point favorites on fire. Overrunners 42. Raiders implied point total is 16.5 points on Thursday. That is also the implied interception total for Gino Smith. 16.5? Yeah. I'm going to take the under there, but the Broncos defensive front, they are getting after quarterbacks. They have 40 sacks on the year. The next highest in the NFL is Detroit with 28. They're on pace to break the all-time record. you know, that doesn't mean it'll happen, but that's just an example of how great their pressure has been. And when you add that to the other side of the field with Gino Smith has not looked good, certainly not in pressured situations. I don't have high expectations for him. Well, in this game, you play Brock Bowers and you play Ashton Gentie and you check out probably because... Don't forget to cross your fingers and hope. Just for those guys. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's fair. Ashton Genty is...

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If we get that receiving work, you'll be okay. Which you will. You will because you hear. Kobe Myers has gone. Besh, Thornton, just. Does Bess get to play? That's the thing. Tyler Lockett. Or are we going to roll Tyler Lockett out again? Just play Gentie and Bowers because you're not going to not do that. Gentile have 20 chances in the game. And Bowers is Brock Bowers. Yeah, where did you post the quote from Pete Carroll? I just reposted it. Yeah, I thought it was, it was nice to hear. He's talking about, yeah, Genti's doing great. I wish we would have got him the ball more on the perimeter a couple of times. Oh, hmm. But here's the thing. This is self-evaluation. He says because about 20% of the time you're going to get him down, we just got to get that done more because it's so obvious. He's seeing that and saying, we need to get him the ball on the outside. And, but send that.

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to the Patriots. Yeah, it went through my mind. Like that kind of self-evaluation went through my mind of like, hey, get a little bit more opportunity out in space. Well, the other side of the ball, a little bit more confusing when you talk about the running back position for Denver. RJ Harvey is performing on limited opportunities, 27% of snaps, 32% of snaps, and yet RB6 and 11 because of the painted. part of the field. Got into the end zone for a third straight week in the receiving game and only had two rushing attempts on the game. Seems like that seems like a scary start. Yeah. So Dobbins is a very easy start. Dobbins is darn near a must start in this because you expect the Denver Broncos to be up. Last week he got 15 carries to RJ Harvey's two.

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So even though RJ Harvey had the touchdown and against the really good Houston team, J.K. Dobbins, was not able to be efficient, didn't have a good fantasy production, was outscored by RJ Harvey. He's certainly the player you want over RJ Harvey. That being said, if you have to, like if there's a break glass of case of emergency, if they are up a lot, that's where RJ Harvey will get more work. And he has been very explosive as advertised, as hoped for when they drafted him. Dobbins must start Harvey in consideration. Demarcato or Harvey? Yeah, that's a perfect example. I would prefer Harvey. Chris Rodriguez or Harvey? Harvey. But that is the tier. So it's not something you want to play, but it's something you can play all three of those guys if you need to. A reminder, though, because he is the type of player that is going to be coming in off your bench, if you start him, this is Thursday night football, put him all the way into the running back slot, leave your flex spot open.

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Yeah, the explosiveness is helpful. Bo Nix, quarterback seven fancy points per game on the year. So he's been a fourth quarter quarterback. Yeah, I mean, those you shouldn't be TV seven. He's going to need it early in this one, I think, with the way the defense is going to play. And yeah, let's throw Cortland Sutton the ball. You know, he's 30th and expected points for the first three quarters? Bo Nicks. Bo Nix. That makes sense. And fifth in the fourth quarter. I don't know. You never know what happens on Thursday night football. We've been surprised before. Geno Smith played his best game in the season by far last week. It was against the Jacksonville defense. It's pretty good. I mean, 29 for 39, 74% completion percentage, 284 and 4. You know, if you want higher upside in this game, you've got to hope that Brock Bowers can somehow not be covered by Denver.

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because he can't really be covered by anybody. Yeah. And, I mean, reminder, Troy Franklin is just continuing to see an incredible amount of targets. It didn't, I mean, it didn't work for either him or Cortland Sutton last week against the Houston Texans. Wasn't a super shocker, but 10 targets. The last three weeks. Super shocker. The last three weeks, it sounds like a WWF guy. Last three weeks, 10 targets, eight targets, 10 targets. Like, Troy Franklin. is, I think he's a fine play this week. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the Raiders are beat at the wide receiver position. Those targets are happening. The implied team total for the Broncos, they're expected to score here, 26 points. So yeah, he's, he's an okay start. And I remind you. I remind you of this drop. I want it to be Pat Bryant, but it's Troy Franklin.

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Yeah, it is. And Jason said it yesterday, you're going to have some ups and downs, but that's the way it goes at the wider zero position. You've had that with Cortland Sutton, and you don't doubt starting them. You got to rely on opportunities. It's like I always say, targets matter. Just not in Cleveland. Yeah, that's fine. You guys want to talk to some mailbag? Yes, sir. Mailbag. Presented by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. All right, let's answer some of your questions. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click that, submit a question button. Or you can dial our voicemail hotline, 302464 TFFB. We do have a couple voicemail questions we'll kick it off with and see if we can help you out for this upcoming week. Hey, ballers. I got a really tough question. I am really solid at running back and I've got a good record. I've got Ken Walker. I tried to trade him.

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Nobody wants him. I'm thinking of dropping him. Is that crazy? Yeah. Thanks, guys. Oh, man. That is crazy. Now, I'm going to read you the last four weeks. Did you hear our waivers show on running backs yesterday? I don't want Ken Walker more than those guys? That's kind of where I was going. And there is no one to pick up on waivers. And you cannot have enough depth at running back position. While his performances have been very poor. for fantasy nine points four points six points seven points the last four games yeah oh my gosh he's also really bad he's getting you know double digit opportunities every single game of the season and the offense now i think with shahid and they're they're catching their stride the better the offense does the better it is for kenneth walker oh my gosh i can't believe his numbers are that low he he can make a big play at any moment it's

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You need to keep them on the roster. Depth is so important. I agree. That's just depressing. It is depressing. You need to change. We need to change what he is in our brains. Yeah, he's a running back too. He's averaging nine point. He's averaging probably. He's a roster. If he feels like a roster clog right now. Well, look, look, I will put you in a position that you have a tough decision with a drop. You want one? Yeah. 24% of leagues. This guy was available as of today, probably not anymore because the waivers went through. But just for the fun of it.

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Kyle Minangai or Ken Walker on your roster. I'd rather have Ken Walker. Ken Walker. Because I don't believe that even though as great as it was for Monongai, I think he goes right back to his. Walker is a committee back too. Yes. Yeah, yeah. But I think he's the, I think he might be the leader of the committee. I don't know. Two of the last three weeks, Monongai top 12 running back. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's a more interesting question than. I don't, yeah. That's one where the names can be the overwhelming part of it. But I think if you, if you factor in, like, you know, there's been two times where Ken Walker's been a top 12 running back this year as well. And you factor in the fact that Swift was out and that won't always be the case. It's insane. And they scored like 40 points of how the Seahawks are so great. And yet both of their running backs are essentially like you.

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They're diaper gravy. You put them in and you don't want to. Yeah, yeah, they, when you have a committee and they're just doing what they need to do in the offense. I mean, it's not great. Ken Walker. So actually, in fantasy right now, half PPR, it looks like Ken Walker is averaging 10.1 fantasy points. Charbonate 8.9 fantasy points. I mean, I would, I mean, are you telling me you would play Ken Walker over Monongai this week? Because I would not do that. Is D'Andre Swift playing? Regardless, let's say he is. I would probably play Walker. Okay. All right, let's go on to another voicemail. Hey, ballers. Jake from Virginia, quick question. I'm number two in my league, and I have Jonathan Taylor. In that situation, would you trade Taylor for Bejohn, straight up swap? In my mind, it could potentially secure the buy based on their running back schedules.

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Jonathan Taylor still has a buy will be shown already at his thing. I mean, I like the way that you're thinking in terms of like paying attention to who's had the buy week and trying to get the buy for your own team. Oh, man. My first initial immediate gut reaction is like, no, you don't do that. The cold schedule. I did not realize what was about to happen. So they get Atlanta this week. Who knows? Who knows which Atlanta defense will show up? But then you're on the buy. Then it's on the road against Kansas City. Houston. At home against Houston, at Jacksonville, at Seattle. You have a fantasy championship week against Jacksonville. You get Seattle, San Francisco, like you said, Houston in week 18. And you can get Bejean? The Atlanta run.

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Bijon's passes by, Atlanta goes Indianapolis this week, Carolina, New Orleans, the Jets. Championship Week is against the toughest run defensive football though. Yeah, that part stinks. I'm, I think that that's a really, it's a fair question. It's a courageous trait. I guess I'm open to it. I remember we had this. Can't you get more than Bijan if you wanted to? Maybe. But the, I don't know, if I have Bijan, I'm pretty happy with it. I'm not going to pay a lot to go get Johnny Taylor. Like we had a few years ago, we had this situation where Derek Henry was destroying. And you looked at, and his strength of schedule was the end of year was against just the juggernauts. Mm-hmm. So it. I get it. What do you do? I think you have that big button in front of you to push that button. Are you pushing it?

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I have so much more confidence in the Indianapolis. I have Jonathan Taylor. I have Jonathan Taylor. I'm not doing it. Mike, you have Bijan Robinson. Yeah, I'm not doing it. I don't, it's, it's weird. I feel like the Colts. I don't think I would, I wouldn't do it from either direction. That's kind of how I feel. If I had Taylor, I would not trade to go get Bejohn. If I had Bejon, I wouldn't trade for Taylor. No, I, I, I, it's weird, but I think that's true. They're just the same irrational. Yeah. I like the cult so much more. They're such a better offense. They had Sauce Gardner. The running game is going to be even more a focal point. Jonathan Taylor can overcome a tough matchup. Yeah, I would say the only position where I would certainly make this trade is kind of the opposite of what he laid out, which is like if you're struggling, you need to get some wins, you know, which most people, Jonathan Taylor, haven't been struggling too too much. But if you're, if you look and you see real significant byweek trouble.

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and you're still trying to make the playoffs and you're on the outside right now, and you can skip that by. Yeah. I'm open to that. That's a pro move that you can do. I did have to go glance at the game against the Rams number one run defense when they played them in week four, Colts. He's 12.1 fancy points. It was his worst game of the year. Oh, no. No, Pittsburgh was a disaster. All right. Here's a question. Joey from, Joey A. Z on Instagram. Should I start Tyrone Tracy or Camara? Or just trade them both for nothing. Oh, man. So Tracy. I played Tracy. The Tracy was in a timeshare. Yep. Like he played 44% of the snaps. He had nine opportunities. Meanwhile, Devin Singletary played 56% of the snaps had 10 opportunities. Oh. So Tracy's not a slam dunk play. Alva Camara has been.

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Alvin Camara has been so bad. The last three weeks. I'll trade for nothing. I think I'll do that one. The last three weeks for Alvin Camara, 4.4 fantasy points, 5.5. And this past week, 0.2 fantasy points. That was against, I will say this, the last two weeks. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, hard to run on the Los Angeles Rams. We just mentioned the number one run defense. So it, you know, it could get better. I don't think Shuck was too, too bad. And he can't over target Shaheed. I'm going to play Camara. I'm going to go Camara, but you might be right to trade them both for nothing. I'll play Tracy. Justin Jefferson trade offer here from YouTube. Ethan wants to know, would you trade Jefferson for Waddle and Jake Ferguson? No. I wouldn't. No. Instagram question was offer Justin Jefferson for Kyron Williams. Is that a good trade? If you need a running back, it's perfectly fine. In this case, they would be getting or if you need a wide receiver and you have.

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So whenever there's a straight one-for-one running back versus a wide receiver, what you're really asking is, is it a fair trade? Because this is team-specific, needs, depth, what you have around them. Take a look at your team and see what position you need more and where you can withstand losing the player. It is a fair trade across. Like Justin Jefferson is a little bit higher within wide receivers than Kyron is within running backs. running backs are a little bit more scarce, so I think it's a fair trade. I just looked at it in our trade analyzer. Oh. It's dead middle. Oh, there you go. It's fair. Dead middle. Projected. Yeah. There you go. So we did it. Oh, that's BB on Instagram. Marvin Harrison or Quentin Johnston this week. Marv at Seattle, Quge against Pittsburgh. I want to say Quge. I want to say Marv.

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I think I'm going to say, Marv. Harrison being forced, fed the ball at the beginning of the game and then turning out, that works. You know, there was the report that came out that like on the bus right before the game, they decided the opening drive they're going to like heavily target Marvin, get him, force him to get involved. That's the way it was worded. Guys, guys, guys. Got an idea. Hold on. Hold on. Let me finish the idea before you call me crazy. what if that guy we took number four overall what if we just pepper in with targets we warmed him up over 27 games like that was the fact that they came out was embarrassing and go now they're going to think we're going to do it again do you know how dysfunctional all of our thoughts are about this team all right let me let me take a break and we'll get into some more questions what's going on foot clan look if you're still overpaying for wireless it's time to say yes to saying no

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That's code footballers to get $50 in lineups after you play that first $5 lineup. Prize picks, it's good to be right. All right, Matt, on Instagram wants to know Jaylen Waddle or Nico, rest of season. Oh, man. That's kind of sad. There's an article that came out on the website today looking at Dynasty Tears. Amazing article. Really good article by Kyle, kind of in the context of discussions you guys had on the Dynasty show. It. I was looking at all the tiers and the breakdowns in there. The three that got me the most that were like, I thought the hardest decision making process for I think it was tier three, tier four wide receivers was the Garrett Wilson, Nico, where they belong. Nico was like down in tier four in this article. Yeah. And that kind of bugged me. Yeah. That was the one that stood out as like, do I agree with that or not? It's wild. Because of talent versus what's happening. On a non-dynasty standpoint, having lost.

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You know, a lot of the other wide receiver options, including Tyrick Hill. Jalen Waddle's been very good. He has. I also look at Week 16, Week 17, Cincinnati and Tampa Bay, two teams that, you know, you're going to need to. Are you going Waddle? I'm going Waddle here. I think that's the right call. Man. Crazy. Malachi on YouTube. Sup, meowlers. I don't know if I like that. A little Mac here, and I was wondering what Breeze Hall's rest of the season outlook is with him not being traded. He'll be used so much. Yeah. That's what's going to happen. I mean, I tried to put myself in Brees Hall's shoes and my goodness. I mean, this is like a lame duck running back on a team that has not really wanted you and yet is totally willing to listen to you and give you tons of work when you want it. And like, oh, man, his tweet. His tweet. He's so funny. He's got nothing to lose. After the trade deadline was over and he said he's like, I'm paraphrasing here. He said, oh, I'm sick about it.

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you know, losing these guys. I'm so happy for them. But it was like, wait, you just came out and said, these guys who left the Jets so happy for them. Well, when you have, when you're the player, you're the human being and the team with their actions, I mean, I don't, I'm not privy to all contract discussions, but with their actions and what's being reported is like, he's not being offered a lucrative long-term deal. from the New York Jets. Oh, of course not. And then. No, that's not happening. And yet at the same time, they're like, no, but you are valuable because we will only trade you if we get a third round pick. Which one is it? Am I valuable to this team or am I not? Well, here's the real truth. How do you make that decision as a Jets franchise to not trade him for a four when you're going to let him go? Uh, you want to win more games than have a worst pick? I don't know. I still don't know how he will factor into the, um, compid story pick math.

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I presume he'll get a good contract, but that's what I wanted to bring up. It's like, what's going on for Breece Hall rest of the season? What's his outlook? He is playing for his contract now. Going into last game, he said basically, I need the ball 20, 25 times. And it worked. They got their first win. Andy said it a little differently. Yeah, I did. I did. Keep moving. Oh, did you do you miss the joke the first time? And you're missing the second joke? Yeah, I guess so. We don't need to bring it up again. I definitely think he's going to be very good for fantasy rest of season. He's got a couple brutal matchups here of Cleveland, New England, Baltimore. Then you get, I mean, Baltimore looks good on paper, but I think it's going to be tough. I'm not looking at Brise as the key to my fantasy championship. Yeah, just trying to figure out if the schedule can tell us anything. Then Atlanta, then Miami.

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It's going to be tough, but he will get the ball. So, so much. I wouldn't. Now, we still don't know who the quarterback is, though. Keep that. That's true. It was, can't you get the budget magician stuff, right? Yeah. Competitive advantage. You know who didn't need the competitive advantage this week? And it's rare we can give him credit. Jonathan Gannon. Yeah. You know, a lot of value to establishing the quarterback at the beginning of the week is what you said. What you're saying this week? Yeah. Yeah. Last, well, last week you kind of did it. I'm talking about this week. He did come out early and say there's advantage to just having an established as your quarterback. I mean, you lose that competitive advantage, but there's advantage just to everything. Rashid Jihita, Jameson Williams, rest of season. Jamo got into the end zone again this week. Great play. She he, I would go Jamo, but you know, I'm, I have to withdraw.

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Yeah, I get that. I actually would go JMO as well. You know, off the by, they seem like they wanted to get him involved. He was involved. Their schedule opens up. And, you know, Shahid, we don't know how involved he's going to be. It's still J.S.N's team. So it's close. It could be the wrong call, but I would stick with Jameson. It's funny because it's a very similar situation. I mean, do they catch a touchdown? Yeah. Do they not? I mean, that's the Lions are Amman Ross team. Yeah, this was, so I brought the stat up earlier in the, either in the season or in the off season where it was like James and Rashid Shahid were drafted in the same draft class and had played the exact same number of games and it was their stat line career. And she, he dominated Jameson Williams. Right. Well, yeah. Jameson missed a lot of games. No, no, no. They played the exact same amount of games. Oh, it was the amount of games. Same 100% amount of games.

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Yeah, with Horton and Kopp and Oroyo and stuff, I don't think Shaheed's going to get as much as maybe Jamo, but who knows? Maybe. It's the... It's close. I think it's safer to go with James and Williams. I mean, just the complete unknown of Shahid, but like the Lions, the Lions running backs are going to score points. And as of right now, the Seahawks running backs are scoring zero points. Hatfield, how do you handle league mates that don't respond to trade offers? Hatfield on Instagram asks us... the question they don't respond public shaming um i don't know i mean usually the the truth is the people that don't respond to trades what i do is i text them or i dm them on whatever platform like if you're playing on sleeper try to poke them yeah um usually those people that never respond also don't respond to the dms or the pokes so then yeah public outcry

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