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Ice & Fire Picks for 2020 + Absolutely No Guff - Fantasy Football Podcast
Ice & Fire Picks for 2020 + Absolutely No Guff - Fantasy Football Podcast
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You are iron alloyed with carbon. Your opponents are a soggy leaf of lettuce. Go to www.W.W. Ultimate draft kit.com and get out of the sand today. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Feels a little different, doesn't it?
I'm supposed to be sleeping. No, is that why? That's why I feel. I was saying it felt a little different because, like, the season, it's August, the season's on the way, five days a week. Yours is more related to your, uh, yes. Is that circadian rhythms? Is that your sleep cycle? Look, that sounds great. I don't know. Monday, August 3rd. Those are those really loud bugs in my trees right now. Cicatias, yeah, the rhythms of the bugs. That's a good start. Welcome in to the podcast.
Mike the Fantasy Hitman Wright, Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. And we are the fantasy footballers. And we are now. And into eternity, five days a week. Yeah, baby. Very exciting. We have the greatest show of all time today. A very special drop returns. And we have news to get into a great, spectacular, quick question to talk about.
But the big announcement, the thing that we really got to get out there, that people, they wait all year long for it. And Jared Goff's here with an announcement. Come on, come on. The listener league, we are taking applications for one week. We are accepting entries for the listener league. And here is how you enter. And I'm saying this on the show.
Which means if you email and say, how do you enter, you have disqualified yourself from entering. Because this is competitive. And I, we don't take no, no guff. No gruff. No guff. No guff. No guff. That's what I define as email. See? We're not taking any guff here. And now I'm burying the application process.
listener league at fantasy footballers.com. Speak for a moment about what we're looking for. We are looking for someone who is fun, awesome, and has done something that will impress us.
with no guff and that's that's probably the most important part here's what we're not looking for an email where you write a paragraph saying why you're good at fantasy football or why you love the show or whatever we have so many entries that are coming in and you know make make a make a funny video yeah not a lot
You know, make a funny video or a song or something we've never seen. I mean, the options are truly infinite. We generally say impress us. Yes, just impress us. Surprise us. Don't tell us how good you are at fantasy football. No trophy cases. No guff. Just something special. And we have to remind the listeners out there, we've got a couple people in already. That's right. Because we had some ultimate draft kit giveaways. We also had the winner of the Meglabel winner. The Meglabel.
And the three of us. Correct. First, second, and third place every year. That's right. And, yes, we're accepting entries for one week. Listener League at Fantasy Footballers.com. Piece of show trivia. We actually met Brooks, our fearless producer, through a listener league entry. So you can be like Brooks. And I want to say this. Zero percent guff on that side of. That was no guff. I mean, it was.
It was a really guffless video. Oh, yes. And I remember us huddling around and talking about it. There's no guff here at all. Look for guff. I went over at like the Zapruder film looking for guff. I mean, we were all waiting for guffman, but it didn't come. Oh, no. No, that's great. Thank you. That is great. I was having that. And Brian Ketren, the giant loser who does some video work also through the listener league. Yeah. Well, because we will. We will.
get guff out there to them like we give brooks a lot of guff yes we give catcher and a lot of guff but we did you know just impress us oh and you can be a part of the official fantasy footballers listener league this year 2020 it'll be fun uh twitter at the ffballers if you want to follow us on socials instagram.com slash fantasy footballers youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers we had so much fun with the live streams last week i i have no doubt there will be more this year than ever before that was
Almost too easy. Yeah, we didn't set up these fancy home studios for nothing. We're going to get our use out of them. Yeah. Yeah. It had nothing to do with current events at all. It was about live streams. Listen, quick question of the day, which Steelers player are you most likely to draft? So this is a, what looks to be a team ADP pickham quick question.
Maybe we'll do some other teams is what I'm thinking. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. This question made me realize how anti-stealers I am in fantasy football this year. I didn't think I was. Can I read the ADPs out? And then you can make a decision? Yes. Big Ben in the 11th round. James Connor, the top of the fourth, juju, the back of the third. Deonté Johnson, 10th round. Eric Ebron, 13th round. Chase Claypool and James Washington, both undrafted.
are you most likely to draft? For me, I think it's the 10th round Deonté Johnson shot. Sure. You want upside. There are a lot of metrics that show he was great. If the offense gets back on track, we've seen Big Ben be able to support a wide receiver two. It doesn't cost you anything. 10th rounder, that's where you're looking for upside. I don't mind that. Yeah, it could be the one.
I don't, yeah, sure, definitely. I don't mind that pick. You look at the value difference between a third round juju, and you're saying, could, Deontay could be the one. I don't see it that way. Sure. I probably won't draft him, but certainly a worthy pick. The true answer is probably Big Ben, because late round quarterbacks when you're playing, you know, dancing with the devil's seeing how long you could wait and then everyone's gone.
I'm still like Big Ben's there. I'm fine with that. And he could be top three. He's done it before. But as far as, you know, I think kind of the spirit of the question of, you know, what player do I really look at in a draft? Right now is James Connor. I don't love a fourth round value. You know, he's alongside other players that I think it's very difficult to draft him. But I'm warming on him more and more in the sense that.
All he's done when he's been on the field is be not good for fantasy, but great for fantasy. The injury concerns are real. He was never able to stay on the field last season. But, you know, we've had plenty of examples of guys who go through rough injury stretches and we just put that label on them and then they're healthy.
And then they're not, you know, Frank Gore once upon a time was a huge injury risk. You'll never get it together. That was insane. It is. At the beginning of his career. He was injury prone. You couldn't, you couldn't talk about Frank Gore without talking about, well, you're not going to get 16. And then he became the Iron Man. Yeah, and Connor, like you said, when he's on the field, he's been great. They don't have a financial commitment to him long term and they don't have, you know, there's been plenty of examples of players staying injury prone. So, but the cost isn't so bad, 403. I mean, if he's on the field,
He's so much better than the other options that they have right now. Mike, what do you think? He was like a top eight pit last year. And if you're looking at running backs, you're taking the fourth of like if this player hits their ceiling, you know, or I should say the probability of them hitting a ceiling and being a top 12 runner, I would put the odds on James Connor. The guy's going there. For me, though, it is, it's probably Deontay Johnson of.
What he could become, he was pretty solid. I'm not, I'm not nearly as in as, you know, like Twitter loves Deontay Johnson. Like he's been an off-season hero. And I see it. I'm not as sure as everybody else is because James Washington was still pretty productive as well with the situation that they were given. So it, but I'm loading, I'm getting the running backs early. It would be.
A weird situation for me to grab Connor. People being on board with Deonté Johnson is super annoying. Because it makes you... I mean, it's good. But then when, like, fantasy Twitter likes a guy, all of a sudden, even my Mike Wright contrarian genes will come active. It's like, well, I don't want to be part of the mob that loves, you know, Deontay Johnson, but...
Independent of all of that, like, his ADP is still the 10th round. That's why I had to get in on Jarwin early. Yeah. Because the mob is forming. Because I didn't feel like... There are literally dozens of people behind me right now. Yeah, which, I mean, that's a lot. A lot of people. All right, let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league. All right, first bit of news is I bought Jason a present. Oh, my goodness. I'm going to show up to the camera here.
It's a very, very, where am I looking? Okay, there it is. It's a beautiful, spectacular, very, very red. It is very red. Ronald Jones. So, welcome to the party. I'll have to wear this soon. Now, of course, when you bought this, you didn't know the massive news. Uh-oh. That he's not, I mean, he's not the vet anymore. Right. He is not the season vet. Did something happen? Yeah. The slippery fish.
Remember that nickname? Yes. LaShawn McCoy has signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I had to get you that shirt as fast as I possibly could. One year, $1 million contract. No money. No money. I think people react completely differently to this news. More people than I expected reacted with great trepidation and fear for Ronald Jones and Kishon Vaughn.
almost like they did last year when he arrived in Kansas City for Damien Williams and company. I just don't know how much LaShawn McCoy really has left. If you look at the numbers, what he actually did on the field in the limited time he had last year, he was actually good. Yes. But, you know, Kansas City, different story. I just don't know how much I'm making of this. How are you applying it to the Ronald Jones projections? It's, for me, I didn't move Ronald Jones, Ronald Jones down at all, but.
It's at least a red flag that, like where Jones seemed really secure as a great pick at his ADP, you at least have to go, well, it is in the realm of possibilities here that Lashon McCoy is on the field more than you think. Bruce Ariens loves veterans, loves veterans. This isn't changing my outlook, though greatly at this moment for Jones or Vaughn. I still...
