Week 2 Matchups + In-or-Out, Pantomime Jason

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Coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah, welcome in. It's going to be a spooky show today. You see, it's Friday the 13th, Mike. Oh!

I had no idea what you were talking about. I was just going with it. And Jason will be in character throughout the show. Wait, Jason Moore or Jason Borges? It's more like Jason less today. Because he is more of the ghost of Jason Moore? I will be a pantomime.

He will, he'll need to be on YouTube to really understand the contributions of Jason Moore today because, whoa, look, if you have not tuned into the YouTube, Jason, did you, I know you were a theater major, theater out of fellow. No, that was correct. Did you take, did you take official pantomime classes? Not only did I. I have an award for it. No, you do not. It's actually, it's, it's not something I'm proud of.

It's not something I'm proud of. Not something I wished ever would come up on the show. But it is a fact. I am so upset. His voice struggling. Still getting through an illness. It's taking you a while. You're older than used to be. It takes a little bit longer, Jason. Never indeed.

Today's jam-packed. We've got a quick question, which is pretty much we're going to look at last night's game. A lot of reactions to Thursday night football. Got some news. We've got nine matchups to get through. And then we've got ballers on a budget. We've got our fan dual picks, the best bargain priced players that we like heading into week to. So it's like flea market for the DFS. Yeah. Yeah. We just want to give you that sneaky play, that low dollar winner. We also have a fun water bet coming up that.

You two gentlemen do not know of yet. We'll bring that up when we get there. Okay. Like a future water bet? A future water bet. And you know, you know for a fact that I will take it? One of you. Yes. Yeah. It's me. It is. Yeah. I know what it's about. I know exactly what it's about. So. Okay. That's ominous for this Friday the 13th. No, I know 100% what it's about. We'll leave it at that. We'll tease it. It will come up. And then once again, I will water you.

Just like I did this last week. That's how these things work. It is Friday. Foot Clan Friday. I will say I should be more trepidious about doing a deal with the literal devil. Based on the voice that you propose this thing, I'm concerned. The Mime of the Year, Jason Moore. Foot Clan Friday, today's winner, Jimmy Sye won a $55 gift card to shopballers.com. Congratulations.

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You can find us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. If you want to watch Mike Wright tilt about Cam Newton, you can go to Twitter at FFHitman. Jason at Jason FFFFL. He can type better than he can speak this week. And you can find me at Andy Holloway. The website's The Fantasy Footballers.com. And you can find us on YouTube. YouTube.com slash the Fantasy Footballers if you want to see Jason's corpse sitting in that chair. Now I appreciate that you have, you know,

Jay Gris wasn't available. He's very busy, and you decided you would step in and show up for work today. So, I mean, that's... Congratulations. It's always a good thing. So let's talk about this Thursday night football game. Tampa Bay wins it, came down to the wire, had the exhilarating fourth quarter score of three to two in this game. This is a baseball game? And the big headlines from this game are the performance of Cam Newton. Yep.

O.J. Howard. Yep. And I'll say Mike Evans. Okay. Because of expectation, right? Everything, everything, all your reactions are proportioned to expectation. Nobody cares if that O.J. Howard goose is if he's an undrafted tight in. He wasn't. He was a fifth, six round guy. Big play, talent, ability, high draft capital. Fantasy owners everywhere are tilting beyond belief today. So let's start there. Sure. He may as well have stayed at home. O.J. Howard was not involved.

in the offense. Not in the passing game. He's still involved in the offense. And this is, O.J. Howard was a very difficult case over the off season because there are tons of stuff in his favor. I mean, his athletic profile is off the charts. His, his yards per target, yards per reception are extremely high. We've seen him be explosive. But you had, so you had all that. You have the potential breakout. But then you had to weigh that against the, the,

coaching narrative that Bruce Ariens doesn't use a tight end in his system. He doesn't feature one. And we have a lot of Bruce Ariens offensive schemes that we've seen that. And then the argument for OJ's, well, Bruce Arons has never had a player. Like O.J. Howard, a tight end of that caliber. So where in that narrative were people falling? Like, clearly people bought in because he was a fifth round pick. I'm trying to set the table for why O.J. Howard was so difficult to gauge.

If you look at Pat Thorman tweeted this. So this will illustrate what's happening with O.J. Howard right now. His snaps have actually spiked. He's on the field 85% of the time compared to 61% last year. He's running a route on only 40% of the plays. He ran a route on 60% of the plays last year. He is simply run blocking, pass blocking more often than he was last year. And he's not being targeted obviously by James Winston right now. And so here we are with the O.J. Howard experience.

Tight-ins, you know, I can't imagine that there's many fantasy owners out there with the patience to keep O.J. Howard moving forward. Would you agree with that, Mike? And what would you say to those fantasy owners? I was, like, I have some shares of O.J. Howard because over the off season, there is, like, I have to allow room for being incorrect. But I fell, if you followed the show of the off season, I was more concerned about Bruce Ariens has never used the tight end.

And right now I'm taking the L on the leagues where I bought into the hype that O.J. Howard could really break out. I, man, do you just flat out drop O.J. Howard? From the leagues where I have him, I picked up in my Money League. I had O.J. Howard. I played him. I got the zero. So I'm pained with everyone else listening to the show. I have T.J. Hawkinson, the yet to be nicknamed T.J. Hawkinson on my bench.

Assuming he shows up in any kind of capacity, O.J. Howard will be on my bench for the foreseeable future. If you have T.J. Hawkinson, if you have a better option that you believe could be a year-long solution, what, you were going to roster two tight ends? At least for one more week. It's very hard.

Yeah, it's really hard to throw the talent on a fifth round. And we're a little bit in the future here, but I want to get people, give them some hope because maybe you had, you held on O.J. Howard. You didn't go in on Waller, Hawkinson, Mark Andrews, three real juicy prime tight ends that you could pick up in stash. And you're like, ah, crap, there is literally nobody on my waiver wire. Here, like, I would pick up Eric Ebron. I would, that's what I'm saying. I'm a week too early.

But next week, you'll be able to pick up Chris Herndon. Look at what Ryan Griffin is doing. Ryan Griffin has ran more routes in week one for the Jets. And this was compliments of good friend of the show at JJ Zacharisen. He pointed out, Ryan Griffin ran more routes in week one that OJ Howard has combined in his two weeks. Like, Herndon is going to be a featured part of that passing attack. So at least have, Quincy and Noon is out now. You've got some hope, but.

Once Herndon is suspended for the first four weeks of the season. It's a great reminder. That could be the pivot for a lot of these over the Howard owners since they missed out on Andrews or Waller. Hunter Henry owners. Hunter Henry owners. I asked the question last night on Twitter. I said, are you running away from Cam Newton after this performance? It was 24 for 50, 324 and 0. He has negative two rushing yards on the season.

89% of 19,000 of you said far away, the running far away. Only 11% of you wanted to believe that this was, I guess you would say, recovery pains for Cam Newton coming off the shoulder, coming off the foot. If you listen to Ron Rivera's post-game press conference, he was just slamming down any question related to the foot. He said his foot is 100% fine. Big fat liar.

That's your official answer, right? You are, my official statements to them being so adamant and like getting angry at the questions, is Cam Newton fully healthy? Like, you're big fat liars because you should, at least you should have the numbers that when Cam Newton runs, your team wins. When Cam Newton doesn't run, the Panthers do not win. I don't have the numbers in front of me. I'll try and find them. But, like,

It was, I saw a stat this morning where it's, okay, in games where Cam Newton runs the ball under five times, they win 30% of the time. They don't win. Cam Newton's superpower, the way that he can change a football game, is by running the ball because he's a different type of quarterback. If he's just a pocket passer, you saw last night, he threw the ball 50 times. The yardage is nice, but he completed 24 of his passes.

going deep infrequently every once in a while it's happening. But if Cam Newton is a pocket passer, the Carolina Panthers are in trouble. He also should have had about 16 interceptions last night. And the 11% in your poll, Andy, the 11% that said that they are not running away, they did not watch. They did not watch the game. It was rough. It was impossible for me to watch that game and say, and this is, you know, Cam was my guy. He is someone that.

on paper coming into this season has always been a dominant fantasy asset, but he looked broken. He didn't look like he could do what he has always done in both phases of the game. Now, there were three players in the receiving game that had over 80 yards. Curtis Samuel, DJ Moore.

Greg Olson with the 6 for 110 coming off of the will he play, won't he play situation. I believe I saw this morning that 124 out of 136 experts had O.J. Howard over Greg Olson in this game. And I don't blame them. It just did not pan out. Well, one of them is. Christian McCaffrey had a dud of a game 16 for 37 after a Monster Week 1. It was only targeted, well, he was targeted six times, but he only caught two passes. You're going to see that.