for fantasy value. But the question then is David and Joku, who has been surging, which, I mean, it's just such classic Cleveland Browns, right? You move up in the first round to get David and Joku as an absolute monster of a man. And it takes you until week 13 or week 14 to figure out how to actually use this tight end. That might not just be the Browns. I mean, it's very, very common for rookie tight ends. Evan Ingram says what?
Fantasy Football 2017 - Starts of the Week, Week 14 Matchups, Quadruple Waterbet
Fantasy Football 2017 - Starts of the Week, Week 14 Matchups, Quadruple Waterbet
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142 passagesWell, I mean, they lost all their weapons, and Evan Ingraham is also not a tight end. So he didn't have to learn all the blocking schemes. He's just a wide receiver that lines up next to the offensive line. Sure. But David and Joku, they use as a multi-purposed tight end. So it's more difficult to get integrated. Also, he plays for the Browns. The Packers side, look, the Browns, they started the year. So do you guys have confidence? Let's say you lost Ertz, you lost Gronk.
Well, yes, I would stream. I'd be willing to give Injoku a shot in this one. On the other, I mean, so by extension, then, I guess the question is Deshaun Kaiser. I think he's streamable. Absolutely. He's ranked appropriately for that as well. The Browns, here's an example where the getting last six week data is really important because the Browns on the year are still the 10th ranked running defense. But over the last six weeks, they're the 24th ranked. You give up 23 fantasy points per game, and Jamal Williams has been cruising.
Yeah, you start him. No questions. Okay. Guys, give me your take on the 49ers in Texans. This game's in Houston. Garoppolo gets another shot. Carlos Hyde, Marquis Goodwin, the lead wide receiver there in San Francisco. The wide receivers for the 49ers have averaged 11.7 yards per target since week 10. That's best in the league. That's Marquis Goodwin at its best.
Can you start Goodwin this week, Jason? Are you on board? I think you should start Goodwin this week. He is a player to me that is undervalued because of the team that he's on. And, you know, his name is not one that going into draft season anybody cared about. I see Marquis Goodwin as basically a low-end wide receiver, too. So similar to what we were saying about Devin Funches. He's not a guy that I'm saying you, you...
You know, every lineup, get him in over everybody. But he should be started, you know, whoever, whatever team has him, there needs to be a consideration of who is he better than another option that you might have there. Marquise Lee has been really hot, for example. People have been starting him. Marquise Lee's playing Seattle. I'd much rather have Marquise Goodwin over Marquis Lee. That's bold. You know, I, so it's tough.
Marquis Goodwin has shown every single game this year, whether he's had a good fantasy game or not, that he can beat the defense. He might get missed on a pass. Now you have an accurate quarterback that I think is streamable in Garoppolo. Wow. And a plus matchup here. You think that Groplo is streamable? Yes, I do. He showed me enough last week that I think that Garoppolo is actually a good quarterback and the Houston Texans. I'm not shaking my head with like, like,
Disgust? Disgust. Yeah, I'm not shaking with, I'm shaking it with confusion because I just don't know if Gropel is ready to go on the road on a 2-10 team and give you fantasy numbers. That's what I don't know. And, you know, the Texans, their defense has been bad, so I know that confidence is there. Savage gives you short fields. Maybe you're right. Maybe he's a top, is he a top 12 guy? No, he's not a top 12 guy in my rankings. Would it shock me if he ends up in that 10 to 12 range?
But you want Cam Newton over Garapolo. Yes. Cam Newton against Minnesota? I don't know. I don't know. I honestly don't know. By far the fieriest man in this office. Both with your hair and with your Cajonis. You're willing to start these guys. Listen to these numbers. For Jimmy Garoppolo, this is the defense he's facing with Houston, Texans the last six weeks, 32nd against the quarterback.
also known as the most points allowed per game. Wide receiver, 28, tied in, 30th. Where are they cutting down? On the running back. 32nd best, right? Isn't that what Jason taught us yesterday? The only thing that can stop is the running back. And so that you're still expecting. I'm...
You're expecting passing yards. You're going to beat Houston in the passing game. You brought it up over the last six weeks. They've been bad. Here's, they've given up. Not just bad. To the quarterback, they've given up 13 touchdowns in the last six weeks. That's averaging more than two a game to the quarterback. If Garoppolo throws two touchdowns, I know he's going to have enough yards to have a really successful. He put up almost 300 yards on the road at.
playing against the Bears. And the Bears are way better than the Texans at the passing game, yes. If you flip it, look at the 49ers defense over the last six weeks. Ninth against the quarterback, fourth against the running back. Are these numbers real? That can't be true. No, it is. It is true. That's crazy. And look, they're giving up some to the tight end right now. But the Texans, they don't have Bruce Allington. CJ Fedorowitz is gone. I have to talk about Stephen Anderson now because I don't get to later because Mike took them.
Mike took him from me for the starts of the week, but Stephen Anderson, I love Stephen Anderson this week. The Texans, the tight ends have been targeted 37 times since week 10, essentially the Savage era. Yep. And that's third most in the league. And Stephen Anderson is great. Necessity is the mother of all invention. Exactly. Now, is necessity going to be the same level as it's been, you know, in the Savage era, sure, except in the Savage era?
That's been a Will Fullerless era for the most part. If Will Fuller comes back, are you worried at all about Hopkins being hyper-targeted or Stephen Anderson getting, you know, a large percentage of the targets? If Fuller comes back and gets four or five targets, that's it. Does that make an impact on Stephen Anderson or? It can have an impact, but the deep threat for Tom Savage taking away for him being a coward and throwing to the tight end multiple times, I'm not letting that affect my judgment.
No, I don't expect much from Fuller, and I don't think you're going to see more targets to Fuller than you were seeing to Bruce Ellington. And they've still been the third most targeted team. Yeah, I guess you get Fuller back, you lose Ellington. Yeah, you don't have anything. Lamar Miller, we love him this week against the 49ers at home. Yeah, he's been, you know, super consistent. I realize the 49ers. I'm okay with him. The 49ers over the last four games have given up exactly zero rushing touchdowns, which is.
very much not what the 49ers have been over the last year and a half. So kudos to the Niners. But I think on the road in Houston, Lamar Miller gets enough volume to be secure as a really solid must-start play this week. All right. Let's talk about the Raiders and Chiefs playing for the top of this division. Yesterday, I had to leave work a little early. Had to go into the dentist.
Had to get a cavity filled. First time I've done that in about 10 years. Reminded me a lot of starting cream hunt these days. Oh. Wasn't pleasant. Wasn't fun. I had to do it. Probably for the best. Probably for the best. Had to do it. He's not a cavity. No, he's a filling. No, he's a filling. No, he's treating. He's treating a cavity. Cream. Kareem, the bad dream I'm hearing. Cream.
I mean, do we want to focus on the sad in this matchup or do we want to focus on the good? This is such a good matchup for him. I mean, look, last week when a lot of people were saying, Karim's going to get it together, I was.
trying my best to pump the brakes because even though the New York Jets looked like a good matchup since they're a bad team, they were second best against running backs over the last six, over the previous six weeks at that point. They were not a good matchup for Kareem Hunt. The worry is not so much the matchup. Now the matchup is so much better, right? Because the Raiders, the one thing that they are bad at defending is NFL players. And so Kareem Hunt.
And he is in the NFL. He's in the NFL. So I'm fine with the matchup. The matchup is great. I love it. You know, guns ablazing, I'm happy. Here's the new question. It's the opportunity. Yeah, that's the destruction. Will Karim Hunt actually get the ball? They have a new play caller calling plays this last game, and it got worse for Kareem Hunt. Well, and then you had bombs. I mean, you had Kelsey twice, Tyreek twice. They didn't get down in the Red So.
I feel like if Kareem is, you know, trying to fill the cavity, that makes Andy Reid just like this giant piece of candy, like with an evil face who just wants to rip holes in all your teeth. Look, I'm not going to go back into the dental metaphor at this point, but I think that Kareem Hunt, the odds are still with him having some red zone opportunities in this game, but I'm hesitant. He's not Alvin Kamara anymore. He's not a stud. Right now he's...
a player that you have to weigh your options. Mike, you're choosing Kareem Hunter Rex Burkhead this year. And you're going Burkhead? Yeah. Your start of the week, Rex Burkhead? Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. That's exactly. When I walked in, they said, Andy Holloway, come on back. I said, yeah. Yeah. It's me. All right. Crabtree. He's back. I love him. We're going to start him. Derek Carr. I love him. We're going to talk about him in a minute. Really? Marshaun Lynch.
Yes. Oh, really? I love it. Marshall Lynch. Okay. Jared Cook, go away. I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to see you. I'm not going to predict you. I'm with Andy on that. I mean, he was the start of the week last week in the best possible situation. You could ever imagine. No Crabtree, no Cooper. Terrible tight-in defense. Poop to bed. Goodbye. Good riddn's. See you later. Whatever the cook is cooking, I'm not eating. I mean, it's been back just quick on Derek Carr. It's been since.
Week 7, which, to your credit, I mean, that was the game against Kansas City when Omar Cooper exploded. Since that time, though, he's had more than one pass and touchdown once. Yes, that is true. He's been bad for fantasy. He's been bad for fantasy. And this is the salve. This is what I'm going with. Tyreek Hill locked and loaded. Travis Kelsey, the number one tight end on the year locked and loaded. Alex Smith, are you starting?
Yes, I am starting Alex Smith. I think he's a top-end quarterback one with this matchup. So just in this matchup, would you rather have Smith or would you rather have Derek Carr? I'd rather go with Smith, I think, coming off of last week. I would as well. Now, before you push a button to move on, I want to ask a couple of Kareem, because I know my Twitter is going to be flooded as it has been the last few weeks of Kareem Hunt. Well, what about this situation? I want to ask you guys a couple of players, Kareem Hunt or this guy, and who would you start? Kareem Hunt.
against Oakland or Somage P-Rine against the Los Angeles Chargers. Ooh, that's an excellent question. I have P-Rine ahead as well. P-Rine. Okay. Kareem Hunt or Leonard Fournett against Seattle. Also an excellent question. Thank you. I'm trying my best. I think I'd go hunt. I'd go Cream Hunt as well. I did as well. Final question. It's also the injury.
Yes. These weird injury history. Weird injury histories. The weird injury history for Leonard Fournette. Cream Hunt or Kenyon Drake against New England. Ooh. I would take Kenyon Drake. Drake. Drake. I went hunt in that one. That was almost an agreement. These conversations should never have. No, they should. Andy Reed, this is your fault. Your big old piece of candy. Starts of the week.
My start of the week, Kareemont. No, that start of the week drop sounds a little like, it's got a little baseball feel to it, Mike. It kind of feels like, you know, the guy on the organ is playing a little. It's also from horse racing. Oh, no, there you go. Well, that makes sense. American pastime. Yeah, you know, things that people liked in the box, 1930s. Boxing. Right. I don't go see them, the ponies. Get a box of peanuts. See?
Maybe I cracker jack. Maybe one. He's never had a cracker. There's a prize in the box, see? It's a sticker. I don't know whether to let him go and force us to edit this show later on or continue down the starts of the week. Starts of the week. Quarterback, I'm going Derek Carr. I just talked about him. Kansas City is reeling. There's no Marcus Peters. They give up the most explosive plays. That's...
15 plus yard passing plays, and both Crabtree and Cooper could be back. And even if just Cooper is back, you've got enough weapons, enough big playability with Cordadero Patterson, Seth Roberts, and the weapons there. I'm going in on Derek Carr. All right. Yeah. I'm going to go with a quarterback who is.
