Fantasy Football - Mock Draft! + Flashy & Trashy Picks - Podcast for 7/15

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in Tuesday, July 15th. The fantasy footballers back with you once again, mock draft episode today. Mike Wright, Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. Here we are. halfway through the divisional breakdown shows we're going to take a little break today jump back into the mock draft landscape and see how we feel it will be a we each have our own team today and then we have uh members of the footballer staff and writing staff all live and with us for the mock draft so you'll get to get to see what happens crack squad right isn't that what we determined many could be

Yeah, that was a bit at one time. So that's on the agenda today. We do have some news to catch you up on. There have been a number of changes and tweaks and adjustments to our 2025 season projections in the Ultimate Draft Kit, which you can find at Ultimate DraftKit. Those things are changing every day as we get more information news and kind of understand more and more about these teams, which is what this offseason is all about. You can watch the show on YouTube, YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. Please go over there, subscribe, click the bell. Easy way to catch every episode. And you can see the draft board. Yes. On a show like today's, it is nice to be able to see everybody's team. And what Mike's saying is that if you click subscribe and hit the bell, then you can see the draft board. So if you're wanting to see that, if you're on YouTube, make sure you click subscribe. Yeah, yeah, of course. We've got it blocked.

If you don't have that bell turned on. But when you click it, it does go into the peripheral vision. You can follow us on X at the FFBallers. Jason is at Jason FFL. Mike at FF Hitman. I'm at Andy Holloway. We've got the free Discord community, ballers discord.com. If you want to become a part of that, I think it's approaching 60,000 strong over there. And of course, if you're listening, which the majority of you do, make sure you click that follow button for the season on Spotify and Apple. No quick question of the day because we got, unfortunately, some news to talk about. News and notes from around the league. Well, everybody's least favorite offseason updates. Brown's rookie running back, Quinn Sean Judkins, has been charged with misdemeanor domestic battery in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. And by the time you're listening to this, a lot of news has come out, a lot of information. Police report is public.

And, I mean, obviously, horrible situation. Quinchon Judkins is a player we've talked about in the landscape of fellow rookie running backs with upside and potential. And I think on a recent show, we talked about how. his path was the cleanest, you know, compared to Hampton with Najee and Henderson with Ramandre. Especially for week one. Like we were talking specifically about the fact that his path for week one being the starter appeared to be kind of locked in. There were some reports recently of Jerome Ford might start. This is obviously going to change everything. The normal suspension timeline for this is six games. It can change.

up or lower and they will let this play out. We don't know if he's going to go on the NFI list for sure yet. Other commissioners list? Yeah, the commissioners list. But this drastically changes his outlook. Yeah, I mean, this is a huge blow to the Browns. They barely brought back Jerome Ford. I mean, that was a take a pay cut and come back here. He was, you know, they got rid of Nick Chubb. I think it was they were going to keep one of them. Yeah, but I mean, it wasn't like Ford was. the future obviously and dylan samson was another rookie they drafted fourth round pick maybe thrust into an opportunity pier strong is still there to me you know we've all made adjustments based on the minimal amount of news that we have we don't know how the the NFL discipline side or the actual you know civil and criminal side are going to play out but you got to make the the adjustments and six is the standard um minimum for uh this type of situation

And it could be more. And to me, I also factored in, well, now you might be on the commissioner's list to miss camp. You might miss six games. And then how soon does the team trust you to be their running back? I mean, yes, you're part of their future. But how quick does that happen? And what does that do to fantasy? And right now it puts Judkins in a pretty undraftable spot. It's a disastrous start. Yeah. And it also obviously has the exact antithetical happening for Jerome Ford. Like he's a late round pick. that I still, I don't expect him to fly up draft boards, even if a known suspension is announced to where he's too costly. But if he comes out as the starter kind of alone or with that fourth round rookie there, then he'll have a lot of value, especially in, you know, your zero RB leagues. Yeah, I would expect to see, you know, you look at the first four games that Ford played last year, and that's probably your blueprint for Jerome Ford production. He was RB 13, 35, 28, 23.

The team will have some combination of bad quarterback play. Also, first four games are brutal. We just went over this with Cleveland. So you've got really tough matchups. You do have Dylan Samson there. They're only favored in one game the entire year. So it's not a great situation for any running back. So that's why you were looking for volume. You were hoping Judkins was your guy because you would get maybe 20 opportunities a game. And now that's all thrown by the wayside and we'll just listen to more news and reports to find out what to do next. Ford is interesting. The schedule cannot be argued with, but like he is, you know, if you're looking at just his numbers when he was the guy. I mean, he's getting tons of targets the last couple weeks when, you know, you had Chubb re-injured himself again last year and we're down to Jerome Ford. Like back-to-back weeks, he had a 60 plus yard run. So like he's a guy that.

With all the volume, I'm not saying he's going to be a top 12 guy or anything like that, but he will be a playable guy, especially if you're in half or full PPR. Yeah, I mean, to his credit, whenever he was called upon, he put up four or 5.4 yards of carry on the year, 5.2 in those first four games when he started, and we'll see where that goes. Also had, you know, we don't go many days without some sort of. wide receiver news in San Francisco. ESPN's Adam Schaefter reporting 49ers wide receiver, Juan Jennings is seeking a new contract or a trade before the start of the season. This dude, this dude looked down at his deck of cards. He's like, hmm, I will never be more valuable than right now. I think I'm holding more cards right now and I'm going for it. I'm going to push my chips in. Oh, hey.

Congratulations, Jennings. I mean, they really, really need him with Debo Samuel gone and Brandon Ayuk still recovering from his injury. I mean, obviously they do have Ricky Pearsall and cowing that they hope. Do you think this news came like, did this get pushed forward? The cards in right after DeMarcus Robinson. Absolutely. DeMarcus Robinson's like going to get a suspension and now you're like, oh, I could leave you like. But naked at wide receiver basically. Yeah. Like if Robinson will be suspended. I yuk, I'm going to be shocked if he doesn't start on the pup. And so then you're talking, you're, you're starting wide receivers in week one of a year when you will yet again have playoff hopes. He signed a two year. He signed a two year 15.39 million dollar contract last year. Yeah. Jennings did. So he wants a raise now. He's 28 years old.

and it was his most productive season in his fourth year. And the, you know, the schedule is great for San Francisco, but they will need somebody to catch the football, George Kittle. Oh, Kittles. George Kittle. George Kittle is looking like such a good pick. Oh, what? Who? I mean, come on. Your player, you're going to draft on this episode. So obviously my first. Mike's never been able to play underdog CMC before, but from the seventh spot or whatever. For goodness sakes, if you draft him again, I swear. Don't let him fall to 10. Oh, gosh, I'm going to have to take him. All right. What else do we have? Trey Harris, wide receiver for the Chargers, has not reported. 30 of 32 second round NFL draft picks are unsigned because of disagreements over guaranteed money. One of the ones they did sign was Jaden Higgins for the Houston Texans who did get a guaranteed contract.

And that's why everyone else is like, oh, he got one fully guaranteed. I want mine. And so everybody's holding out some players. You ever seen a situation where they wait and has benefited the team? No, I don't. I mean, outside of like a catastrophic injury or something stupid like that, especially with a rookie, you mean? Yeah, or just any of these guys like the Jamar Chase delay. You know, we waited a year on Jamar Chase or T. Higgins. Cost them more money. It usually, you look at the best run franchises. you know, look at the Eagles coming off their Super Bowl. They are always out ahead of these new contract extensions and signing people to what looks big. But when you're first there, then it, you know, as time goes on and caps increase, you're just ahead of the game. And then we did get one more report on the ever elusive, but hopefully eventually arriving Kyron Williams contract extension.

The athletic reporting, it could be worked out by the end of training camp, but notes that the Rams will not pay top market money for a running bag. Those seem a little antithetical. Well, she, no, I get it. I mean, they went through this with Todd Gurley once, but she also reported that the normal, the normal Rams time where they do extensions is in training camp. So even though there's been all this like, where is this deal, where is this deal, where's this deal? You know, it's being reported like, hey, normally that's going to come during training camp, which is not here yet. It's so weird.

Yeah, but if that's the case and they're not going to pay top market money, there's a world where Kyron wants that. Like you don't. Sure. Like they made a horrific mistake with Gurley. Yeah. So the fact that they were there with Gurley doesn't set a precedent for their future signings. It's just like I wouldn't pay Kyron top dollar either. I wouldn't either. I think he understands. It's going to be a shorter deal then. I think he understands his value, which signed resigning with the Rams, it's got to be his best case. scenario of like you're still playing for super bowls you're going to get that you're going to get that generational money put that in the bank i don't know i just i don't understand this we wait until training camp like if you're 24 year old and you're not getting the money you think you deserve this is your only contract that's all that's my only like pushback on that i think they'll get a deal done they like one another but if i'm 24.8 years old this is my only elite running back contract and if they're taking 10 million of guaranteed money off the table that i get in the open market

that's where push comes to shove in these. I guess the question is, what do you think you could get on the open market? Right. That's what I'm saying. I don't think Kyron is going to get, you know, as the quote says, top market money for a running back. I don't believe that that's what his open market value would be. I think he would, at 24, I think he might. But we'll probably see a contract done in some fashion. Maybe it'll be shorter. Maybe he'll feel like he can cash in again. I don't know. Any other news that you guys have? Anything you want to talk about? No. No. Any personal news, Jason? Anything you've been wanting to share with the audience? I'm going to think. I'm going to dig deep. I don't have anything on you. I'm just asking. There's Jason. Isn't there something you want to do? No, not today. Parent. I know that trick. Yeah, there's a, I don't know if you shared that on spitballers or on this show at one point in time, but when you were a.

child your parents pulled that on you and said oh yeah I was on the top bunk they came in yeah hands behind their back is there's something you want to you want to admit man oh man and I admitted to something so much bigger than the little the little broken thing that I had thrown in the garbage that was behind their backs I'm like I did I broke the front window and they're like that was you yeah I'm not falling for that trick anymore why don't you just tell me why you think I did oh man Oh, that's too good. All right, it is. Plead the fifth. Yeah, seriously. I'd like to use my constitutional right, please. Mom, dad. Invoke the fifth. All right. We are done with the news, but we've got a mock draft, and it's on the way right now. The Fantasy Footballers Mock Draft.

All right, today, 12 team half PPR mock draft, one quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers, a tight end, a flex and four bench. We have the full crew here. Jason ended up with the two spot. I've got the eight spot, Mike, at the 10 spot in our randomly selected mock draft. We've also got Al Borland in here. We got Jake, Josh, Papa Josh himself, the Falcon, Julia. one of our editorial staff, Kurt, one of our writers. We got Brooksie here at Pick 9, and we got Borg and Betts, wrapping up the 11 and 12, probably with just sole focus of ruining Mike on the way back. That would be nice. They can't take McCaffrey from me. They can't, no. And the fact that I'm going to be staring that stupid decision down potentially or having you draft McCaffrey for the thousandth time is great. All right, so we're going to kick this thing off right now, number one pick, off the board.

Al Borland took Jamar Chase that puts Jason on the clock. Yeah, Chase would have been the easy pick for me as well if I was at the first spot. After him, I feel like there's a tear break to those next great wide receivers. I'm going to take the best running back. I'm going to take the only indestructible one. 17 game, Bijon Robinson. I will take the indestructible Bijon Robinson. He is my, he is my running back one as far as just statistical. uh projection but i also think he is on the safer side of most of the running backs and so he's he he would always be my number two pick i caught that that was kind of like a little softening of the proclamation the softer the safer side the safer side he has far fewer red and yellow flags than a lot of the other top running backs but he is playing 17 oh we we all agree we all agree in the real in the grand scheme of risk christian mcalfrey through his first three years wasn't

iron man heading into year four you would have been like he's the safest most indestructible running back there is yeah i wasn't i didn't say that you aren't yeah yeah that's football all right bejean goes 102 and look at that cmc goes at 103 jake takes them off the board probably wants the attention well you got it justin jefferson at the 104 cd lamb at 105 so if you noticed no sequin No Saquan off the board through the first five picks. Gibbs goes ahead of Saquan at 106 and Saquan off the board at 107, which would have made my life really easy at 108. Yeah, I'll bet you were watching that whole way down thinking, no way. Barclay's going to get to me here at the 108, and he didn't. Yeah, so that puts me on the clock at 108 with, what, three wide receivers off the board, four running backs and a decision to make.

We were talking earlier today in the office about, you know, Sequin, about Henry. You had made some tweaks to Henry's rankings. I've got Henry and A-chan right next to each other in the ranks. Genti's still on the board. Kind of a slip, I think, in the tiers at wide receiver with Chase Jefferson and Lamb off the board. And then I'd have to jump into Amun Ra or Puka neighbors. Some of those guys maybe. Jump on in, brother. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on Derek Henry in this one. I'm going to give him a shot here. I like the upside of H.N., but he does. You've upset Brooks. He still makes me nervous. Oh, Brooks, are you disappointed? You upset? Okay. He put some exclamation points in there. He's upset. Brooks, you foul mouth. Yes, you dirty dog. Exclamation points? Yeah, yeah. Don't yell at us. Capital letters as well.

All right. Derek Henry, I took him at 108, and Amon Ross St. Brown, he pivoted away from running back altogether, putting Mike on the clock for the first time in the first round of the entire off season where he can't draft Christian McCaffrey. It's a beautiful day. It's for the best, guys. It's truly for the best. Isaac Garindo. So, yeah, I've never believed in that Christian McCaffir guys getting hurt. So for me, it would come down to Puka, who I think is still a, like, I think he has a strong, strong wide receiver one. Not Jamar Chase, Jefferson, Lamb, tiered, but if you want to call him in that next tier, I have no problem with that. And then at running back... So just to be clear, he's a big step ahead of the Amman Rod decision there where... He has for me, yeah. ...been Marz been number three of the last two years? Yeah, and Amman Ra's in the same tier as... I just wanted to hear you talk through that.

Okay, but I'm going to go, I'm going to take the rookie superstar. I'm going to take Ashton Genti. Genti off the board at 1.10. So we're a 12-team league, Borg and Betts on the clock. H-N goes 11, Puka at 112. And, oh, yeah, Al-Munrah went right before you. So my discussion with you was completely, you guys just brushed that off, huh? Well, I thought you were just asking if I would have. Could have just called me an idiot. I. Sometimes things don't need to be said, you know. All right. Well, since, since Alma Ra was gone, you went with Genti. That is correct. Puka ended the round, Nico Colin. So the Puka Nico stack at the end of the first round, beginning of the second for Betsy. Betz is a zero RB fiend. It's all he wants to draft. Look, those two on the board there, I would be. That's an awesome start. Yeah, it's the place to do it. If Genty was still sitting there on A-chan, I probably wouldn't, but it does seem like that's.

Pretty perfect. Drake London goes at 202 to pair with A. Chan putting Mike back on the clock. Ginty was the first round selection. And now it's your turn. I thought you were, I thought you were throwing to our sponsors. Oh, would you want me to do that here? Yeah. Did that, uh, was that good? You psyched me out, man. Get enough time? I don't, I don't feel like I really like put the ball in the tea at all for the sponsors. But the producers were telling you. Oh, okay. I'm paying attention. I kind of, I work it in when I want you. Okay. All right. That's fair. So I'm going to look at the running backs. You got Bucky, Jacobs, Kyrin, that type of a tier. Your boy, Chase Brown. Chase Brown is there. I do love Chase Brown. But Malique neighbors and Brian Thomas are there. One of the true budding superstars.

at the wide receiver position. I have Brian Thomas one spot ahead of Malik. That doesn't mean I'm like, oh my gosh, Brian Thomas is such a better pick. They're very, very close. But for this build, I'm just going to follow the rankings and I will take Brian Thomas. So Gentie and Brian Thomas Jr. that puts Brooks back on the clock, took Alman Ra in the first round of this mock draft. And goes Brock Bowers. Goes Brock Bowers with the second round selection. Interesting. grabbing a positional advantage. I have Derek Henry. See how that works out for Brooks. This seems like a really good time to announce an adjustment to my rankings. Is this an announcement for being Jason 2? Well, yeah, I don't think you guys know that I've moved this guy to where I've moved him and he's going to be my pick. And it's wide receiver, AJ Brown. Oh, you're going. AJ Brown is now my wide receiver six.

That was my dream to get at the 2-11 because I've seen him fall to near that spot. A.J. Brown is a wonderful pick there, Andy. So I went Brown, and having one running back, one wide receiver with a long wait after my pick gives me more flexibility in the next round. I could have gone Jacobs. Jacobs would have been a nice pairing with Henry, but A.J. Brown with Henry. Neighbors goes next. Chase Brown off the board along with Bucky Irving. They're in the middle of the second round. If you take Gibbs and Chase Brown, is that a high T team? No.

Okay. No, no, no. I didn't think it was. That's like a double lightning team. Just saying, you are not. That's not Sonic and Knuckles. That's Knuckles and Knuckles, right? No. Oh, Sonic and Sonic. Yeah. Buck Irving, Ladd-McConkey, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Jason, you've got Bejohn, so you know you won't need any depth at running back because he'll be there all 17. That is true. I'll need one more. We're going to start two running backs. Oh, that's fair. I don't mind playing Hero RB where you take a stud like that and then don't get running backs for a while. I think that's a good strategy if you can get your hands on Bijon. The issue I have with that is that right now when I look at the wide receivers that are available, Tyreek Hill, I'm more out on him. I have a lot of worries about what he put on film last year than some people do.

T. Higgins, I absolutely love. I like Marvin Harrison to have a big growth year. But those guys aren't like set apart. They're not that different to me. When I look at the running back position, I see three guys there in Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor and Kyron Williams that I think are better. I think they are just better options and going to score more points. So I will go by my personal rankings and I'm going to take Jonathan Taylor who I. adore. I think he is one of the five best real-life running backs. And what we saw at the end of last season was just a demolishing of NFL fields by his feet. And so I will continue to believe in him. So the defenses were fine, but the fields got beat up. Fields were wrecked me. I actually moved Taylor up a little bit today as well. So he was one of the guys that moved up. I like to pick. Jacobs goes next to Green Bay fan Al Borland. Probably pleased to find Josh Jacobs sitting at 212.

And then goes Trey McBride in honor of both the trophy that Trey McBride won him last year and also. He's very good. He doesn't want Trey McBride. Yeah. I would have liked him on my team. That's delightful. Chase Jacobs McBride. Jason back on the clock. Bejohn and Jonathan Taylor. Yeah. By the same logic, I do still have Kyron ahead. However, I don't want to start near a turn with three running backs, have no wide receivers. Just because of like no courage or? It's like weak need, I guess. Wisdom is kind of what I'm going for. I'm going to take T. Higgins, who is very, very high in my own rankings. I see him as a wide receiver one this year alongside Chase. Obviously, he needs to stay on the field. That is his issue. So I think I've got the yin and yang here with Bijan and T. Higgins. You know what I mean? I am sure Bijan plays the season. I have no idea. I have no belief.

in t higgins it's funny because you like you put be jean with a couple of guys that are always hurt so yeah totally different guys um garrett wilson goes next kairn off the board at 304 you like that value i dohosh kairn williams 304 marvin harrison devante adams and tyree kill so we've got five white outs here in the or six pass catchers five white outs here in the third round puts me back on the clock I had a really long, beautiful queue of players that I wanted. It is down to two names after the beginning of this round. So nobody really doing anything too wild. But I have Henry and Brown. And look, I'm going to do something that you guys also won't see coming. Much like AJ Brown, I'm going to take Rashi Rice. Taking Rashi Rice. You are correct. I thought that was my easy pick. Yes, yes.

Thought you thought that. Have you been changing? I'm more open-minded a little bit to kind of a higher ceiling season for Rashi Rice. It was small and beautiful sample size last year. But I do think 100% healthy Rashi Rice, it's time to get on board. So I'll go Rashi Rice with AJ Brown and Derek Henry. Brooks went with Brees Hall next. Breeze Hall, let me just put this out here. He's the pick I never want to have to make. I realize this. He's the pick that I don't want to ever slip to where I think he's a value because I don't want to take him. And maybe he'll be good. But I'm so terrified of him falling to me and me feeling a pressure to take him. He's got a glorious name. I mean, you know, Brees Hall, what he did in his sophomore season was, you know, one for the heralds. Breaking news. Adam Schifter reporting, boys. Oh, no.

No, this one's good. The Jets have reached an extension agreement with wide receiver Garrett Wilson, a four-year $130 million extension, $90 million guaranteed. It marks the first time in NFL history. A receiver has received an average over $31 million after only playing for three years. Wow. That's some caveats right there. Yeah, yeah. Makes him sound like he's got the most money of all wide receivers. in my head before I was reading. I would have just left that part out. I thought I was like, oh, we're getting something cool about how much money is making. Oh, no. Yeah. Just four players who have only played three years. Wow, that's big news though. I run burgundy. Yeah, that is. Aaron out of town and the dude wants to stay. Yep. And money does that too. I was really afraid when you said the, the Jets that you were going to say something about Brees. Oh, I was like, oh, gosh, the timing.