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The Ducers receive costumes and Brooks answers court
The live opening thanks Al Borland for enormous production work, assigns him both everything visible and everything that goes wrong, and summons Brooks/Judge Giamatti behind the desk. The produced card gives the exact roster: Brooks/Judge Giamatti with gavel, Jeremy/Owl Borland in plaid with hammer, and Kyle/The Borgogon inside a monster-flower collar.
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Mike trains with entrées and THE BIG FAN
Sweaty before the live show, Mike admits he skipped Peloton but completed burger, sandwich, and steak training, then spent the previous hour spinning in front of an industrial fan whose literal sign says THE BIG FAN.
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The Foot Clan reaches $250,000 for St. Jude
The hosts say the Foot Clan, UDK and live-show participation, and fantasy winnings have raised $250,000 for St. Jude over seven years. They thank the audience, then puncture the sincerity by joking that it was probably mostly the hosts.
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Player loyalty becomes a projected rock concert
The live screen turns boom-bust Gabe Davis into Smash Mouth, with only the big hit worth streaming; Mike casts his former champion Antonio Gibson as Green Day's American Idiot comeback and reclaims him; Jason makes Gino Smith Miley Cyrus through Hannah Montana and Wrecking Ball, then insists both are genuinely good.
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Mike's Trey Lance roster spot becomes a landmine
The desk reads Dallas saying it neither plans on, counts on, nor wishes for Trey Lance's help. Mike is visibly hurt, keeps Lance for now, and revisits the idea that cutting him would plant a roster-clogging dynasty landmine for someone else—even though third-string status may ruin the trap.
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The Reaper reaps a newly believed-in Jeudy
Immediately after Andy was made to profess belief in Jerry Jeudy, the show reports a multi-week hamstring injury and answers, 'Reaper's going to reap.'
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Fat Thor takes over the Palace screen
Mike projects the established overweight Thor image and identifies it as Josh Jacobs. The room gives the intentionally stupid bit light applause; the hosts then argue that Fat Thor eventually gets in shape and dominates the movie.
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Live bold predictions preserve only the hits
The hosts call every historical live-show bold prediction perfectly accurate, then immediately admit they focus on the predictions that hit. Andy later offers to edit player names out of the recording so a threshold with different players can earn him partial credit.
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The Doctor from Scotland owns the bonjour origin
The hosts honor a doctor who flew from Scotland solely for the Megalashow as the listener who started the show's bonjour bit nine years earlier.
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The company-card cannon fires absolutely nothing
Jason's promised personal T-shirt cannon was actually charged to the company card. After successful opening shots, he later arms it without loading the shirt, produces the first recorded cannon explosion with nothing inside, follows with a limp result, and threatens to crank it hard enough to cost insurance money. The close tells him to load the shirt next time.
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Soundcheck becomes an hour of brittle Adam Thielen
Mike peels back the curtain and says Jason spent about an hour at soundcheck doing an old Adam Thielen impression: 'My bones are brittle boys. Don't throw me the ball.' The conversation then calls Jason Jay, with direct video still centered on him.
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Fifty Five receives the full live-show cue
A suggestion that Jason should have predicted 55 touchdowns becomes an explicit 55 shout-out, and the complete storyboard verifies the recurring black-and-white FIFTY FIVE graphic over the live desk.
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Al lights the crowd and Josh queues the final mic
The hosts ask Al for lights on the people, and the audience performs the Mailbag cue together before listeners take the floor microphone. When the final mic is empty, the desk calls Josh to identify the approaching participant in a Keenan jersey. The post-show Q&A is then promised as Thursday's podcast.
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Complete review of all 60 storyboard sheets plus targeted direct-video frames shows the three regular hosts alone at the live Palace Theatre desk: Mike left in a white-and-pink patterned shirt and backward light cap, Jason center in black with glasses, and Andy right in black. No Jay Griz name, drop, image, cardboard cutout, physical bear, missing host, denied-speaking-role parallel, Listener League detail, or transcript-supported Megalabowl canon occurs. The opening has green lasers, purple curtains, smoke, a large screen, and a rifle-sized launcher. Jason fires into the crowd, then Brooks/Judge Giamatti is summoned behind the desk. The produced WITH THE DUCERS card labels Brooks as JUDGE GIAMATTI with a gavel, Jeremy as OWL BORLAND in plaid with a hammer, and Kyle as THE BORGOGON inside a monster-flower collar. Al is thanked for production work and jokingly assigned everything that goes wrong. Mike admits he trained for the live show with burgers, sandwiches, and steak instead of Peloton, then spent an hour spinning in front of an industrial fan literally labeled THE BIG FAN. The Foot Clan, live shows, UDK, and celebrity-league winnings are credited with raising $250,000 for St. Jude over seven years before the hosts jokingly reclaim most of the credit. A projected player-musician parade turns boom-bust Gabe Davis into Smash Mouth, Mike's champion Antonio Gibson into comeback-era Green Day, and Jason's Gino Smith into Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montana/Wrecking Ball. Mike later holds Trey Lance as a dynasty landmine despite Jerry Jones saying Dallas neither plans on nor wishes for his help. Andy's newly professed Jerry Jeudy belief is immediately followed by a hamstring injury and 'Reaper's going to reap.' Mike projects the established Fat Thor image over the stage for Josh Jacobs. The live-show bold-prediction ritual says every prediction has always been accurate because only the hits are remembered. A doctor who flew from Scotland is honored as the listener who started the show's bonjour bit nine years earlier. Jason admits the cannon promised as a personal purchase was actually charged to the company card, then later arms it without loading a shirt, fires nothing, follows with a limp launch, and threatens to cost insurance money after the show. Andy openly says that if three unnamed receivers hit his threshold, he will edit the clip to remove his wrong names and claim partial credit. Mike reveals that Jason spent roughly an hour at soundcheck doing an old Adam Thielen voice—'My bones are brittle boys. Don't throw me the ball'—before the desk again shortens Jason to Jay. A spoken 55 shout-out receives the real FIFTY FIVE overlay. Al raises the audience lights for the communal Mailbag drop; near the end Josh is called to queue the final participant at the empty microphone. The post-show audience Q&A is scheduled to become Thursday's podcast, and Jason is told to load a shirt before using the cannon again.
Barry Sanders. Okay, good guy. Excuse me, Mike. The NFL merger was June 8th, 1966. Oh, okay. So even further back than I thought. Super far ago. No one remembers the 60s. Before the beginning of time. Here's those names. Barry Sanders. Adrian Peterson. O.J. Simpson. Jamal Charles. C.J. Spiller. C.J. Spiller is the outlier. What, guys. No, no, no. Move on. Move on. We're past O.J. Mercury Morris. To his credit and mine, I don't know who he is. Great name though. Yeah. Oh, it truly is. And J.K. Dobbins. And you might say, Mike, 130 attempts. That's quite the convenient cutoff point. And you're right. For a bold prediction show that you're cutoff point. It certainly is because all those guys had way more than 130 carries. But let's talk about, let's go to the past catching. Mark Ingram, running back eight in 2019 with 29 targets.
J.K. Dobbins comes to town, and those targets absolutely vanished, and Dobbins had 24 as a rookie. And again, Nick Chubb with Todd Monkin, 49 targets. And you're like, you guys even remember this? You know Devanta Freeman was on the Baltimore Ravens? Oh, I remember, yeah. 42 targets for Devante Freeman, who was worst. At that point. He's very clean. Yes. Oh, I mean. It's just like head to toe sponge bath. It's taking care of every day. Just premium soap. Soup's washed. But the point is, it's not actually. Like feeling? No. You don't, you don't wash ghosts. It's me. Hold on. Hold on. I'm peeling back the curtain for a second. For it's for me? For sound check, he did this for like an hour.
He didn't like an hour of his Adam Thiel in impersonation. It was good. My bones are brittle boys. Don't throw me the ball. He did score yesterday. Yeah, he had a very good game. He had a very good game. Me and that guy, I love him. The point is, we've seen a running back for this Baltimore Ravens team in the old busted offense get 42 targets. So 42 targets is not impossible for J.K. Dobbins to unlock some of that upside. Plus, I just need 1100 on the ground for a player who's crazy talented, like I said, in a month when he finally had two, well, actually, no, that was one strong leg. One strong leg averaging seven yards per carry. He's a great player. He's going to be on a great offense. And I think that top 10 bold prediction is in the range of outcomes. What do you think, Jay? So pretty stupid, huh? Yeah, there it is. There it is. There it is. He's so handsome.
He's so cool. Oh, the chance stopped immediately. He's so handsome. He's so cool. They're like, I don't want him to think that. Everyone be quiet. You know, I do believe J.K. Dobbins isn't actually really talented running back. I do believe in the Baltimore Ravens offense. There's a lot to be scared of when it comes to the mobile quarterback, the passing volume. But I want to bet on the Ravens' offense and the talent. And actually the depth chart, Justice Hill's had a great preseason. Don't scare me. I mean, Justice Hill is irrelevant. What about my health of Gordon? Yeah, like, J.K. Dobbins is head and shoulders above everyone else in that room. And I think that if they're playing fast, which is the Monk in way, you just don't, you don't have guys come out as often. I think J.K. Dobbins is going to be on the field a lot. So I mean, obviously it's bold to be like top 10. I wouldn't, I wouldn't see that as the
uh probable outcome but i'm i'm in on daubbins 15 touchdowns and he'll do it 11.6 and he'll do it listen i will say this i had the decency in all of my anti todd manken raven's hype train situation to not bring up the cleveland years because that was a freddy kitchen's offense and then you used that for monkin sorry he was there jason it's panderbert time uh actually it's not This is just what the heart wants and what the heart believes. Going into the my guys episode, and you guys can attest, I had such a hard time because here's who I actually wanted my three my guys to be. Oh, now he wants credit for four guys. Look, I know this. I really wanted it, but I couldn't allow myself to do it. You're the one in charge, chicken. This is what happened. You guys were there. This is a real story. I wanted Justin.
Herbert, Justin Fields, and Mark Andrews, but I didn't want three onesies. And so I took out Justin Herbert so that I could talk about his true ceiling on a bold prediction because my bold prediction right now is that this season, Justin Herbert has 50 total touchdowns and finishes as the quarterback number one. What? They're standing up, Jason. Yeah, they're standing up. No, not that guy. He's leaving. That guy's leaving. But he's, to be fair, he is still standing. That's a guy that had Justin Herbert last year and he walked off. I've heard enough. All right. Justin Herbert 50 total touchdowns. How many? 50 total touchdowns that finishes as the quarterback number one. This is. That's not, uh, no. You didn't add touchdowns due to that dream. This is from the Russian motherland. All right.
How many people have had 50 total all-purpose touchdowns in the past? There have been four. Tom Brady. You didn't even give us a chance to answer it. It was rhetorical, bro. Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, and Aaron Rogers. And the fifth time happens this season. Those are dream seasons. Those are seasons. that win fantasy championships. Andy, do you remember personally the Peyton Manning 50 touchdown season? Well, let me ask Mike. Do you remember the Peyton Manning 50 touchdown season? Yeah. Why do you guys remember that season? Because I lost in the championship. Why did you lose in the championship? Because Peyton Manning probably threw eight touchdowns. That was fun. That was a really good time. When you have those type of seasons. How is that possible? Yeah.
It's crazy. Those are outlier seasons, but they are special. And there is a mixture happening here for Justin Herbert, both good and bad that I think is a perfect fantasy recipe for success. The bad is what happened last year. Last year he threw 25 total touchdowns. So you're looking at double. I'm looking at double what he did last year. Last year he threw the third most passes in NFL history, 477 and somehow only through 25 touchdowns. And you say, well, you know, maybe that's outlier. It's an outlier for him. He came in and threw 31 touchdowns as a rookie. He is good at throwing touchdowns. How many is 31 as a rookie?
Oh, I don't know. 31. The all-time NFL record. No one has ever done that except for Justin Herbert. No, Andy was right. 31 is the answer. Great answer, Andrew. Thank you. He is really good. I don't think I need to like, I don't need to make the case. No, you do not. You watch the film and you go, man, that guy's good. Quarterbacks with 12,000 passing yards through their first three seasons, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Justin Herbert. End of list. He's that good. Here's what's crazy is if you believe it, it's your bold prediction, so you know, you're against the odds. But you got to remember Demarius Thomas and Eric Decker and Julius Thomas and how good the other weapons were. Could they all be good if your dream comes true? That is the point. The point is he has the weapons and the cast to do it. No one has ever done it without a...
a smorgasbord of guys who could score touchdowns. Peyton had it, Aaron Rogers had it, and truly, Justin Herbert has it this year. Last year, you want to know why he only threw 25 touchdowns, it's because he lost half the season of Keenan Allen. He lost a quarter of the season of Mike Williams. He lost the entire season of Jalen Guyton. He broke his ribs in week two. He didn't run for any touchdowns, which that's part of this. It's not just passing. This is all-purpose touchdowns. He averages four touchdowns a year. He had 300 rushing arts year before. On the ground. He had zero last year. That is legitimately a pretty outlier. 14 quarterbacks had 50 rushing attempts last year. He's the only one who didn't have a rushing touchdown.
he will have rushing touchdowns added to his list. If he gets up near 7% touchdown rate with Kellynne Moore, with Mike Williams, with Keenan Allen, with Austin Echler, a first round draft pick and Quentin Johnston, a great red zone option in Gerald Everett. You still have Josh Palmer. You have Jalen Guyton. I don't even know what they're cheering for. I think that was a Gerald Everett cheer? Oh, God. All right. Yeah. Yeah. What's that? What's that, baby? For those at home, Jason is now arming a T-shirt Canon. The first ever on podcast recording, explosion of a T-shirt Canon! You didn't put a T-shirt in it, Jason. Jay, there was no T-shirt in there. You didn't put a T-shirt in the T-Cannon. You left it out. I was sitting on the T-shirt. Yes. He just shot... Nothing. I need more Jason's. I need more Jason. He shot nothing.
Good. Oh, this is good audio. Yeah. This is good audio. Wait, let me get the mic. No, the mic's got it. The mic picked it up. Oh. Oh, that was. Is that how your prediction's going to go? No, no. Limp. So I think with. Oh, they booed the teacher. You're going to have to load up later. I am really upset right now. Continue. After this show, I am going to really cost some insurance money with this. I'm going to load it. I'm going to crank it. Um, so I think with Kellan Moore's arrival, um, there is, get back into your point. There is a path to it. And I, I did the math because I, I thought about this beforehand. I was like, is this actually doable? Is this, is this actually realistic? Can it happen? And obviously for it to happen, everyone has to have a good season. But big Mike, he's had double digit touchdowns before. Give him 10. Sure. Keenan Allen last year, second half the season, he was on pace for eight and a half. Give him eight. Okay.
Austin Echler has averaged over the last two years. I believe seven touchdowns. Give him six receiving touchdowns. Quentin Johnson is a first round rookie. First round rookies that play the whole season average. I think it's 6.5 touchdowns per season. Give him six. Gerald Everett's a touchdown machine. Give him seven. Josh Palmer has average over the last two years. Four. Four rushing touchdowns is his average for Justin Herbert. If Donald Parham gets two, that means between Jalen Guyton, Isaiah Spiller, Tray, McKitty, whoever, just need two more. I mean, you realize that his sophomore season, Justin Herbert had 41 touchdowns, and then he comes out, week one, looks like a superstar, week two, loses all his weapons, breaks his ribs. He is a great value this year because he was a display. Why don't you go up to 60? If I went up to a number, Andy, you know what that number would be.
Yeah. How did you not go 55? Oh, my goodness. Gracious. I just gave a 55 shout out. Let's move the show along. You love Justin Herbert. I hope it's a hope it works out for you. It was hard last year. The expectations were there. Before we get into the mailbag, which I hope everybody out there is ready. I do have to get one quick bonus. Jason Moore, bold prediction. Historically, you have picked the NFL team that is being hyped that will let everybody down. Yeah. And you have been pretty correct on that. Mostly accurate. You did say it would be the beginning of the end when Brady won a title. Yes, that was a... Their fantasy options weren't all great. So do you have that team before we get into the mailbag? Yeah, so I would have gone with the Jets. Uh, right?
But I wouldn't do that to you on the bold prediction where you say they win the Super Bowl. They already did it. Yeah, they shamed you. You're all going to remember every one of you. I was looking around and I don't think you're going to like this team either, Andy, but I do think that there is more fragility to a team that right now is the, I believe, second highest odds to be in the Super Bowl. They are assumed to be great. All their weapons are great. They are drafted to be great. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think there's a lot of fragility to the San Francisco 49ers. Wow. That's the biggest pop of the night. Yeah, because you've got, we're in California. We got lovers and haters here. Sure. But you have, you have a, you know, you have a Mr. Irrelevant quarterback that isn't really proven and is also coming off of a huge elbow injury. And should something happen to him, that is. Sam Darnold is not the answer. That is spicy. So.
I just think there's a lot of mouse feed. You don't believe in Sam Darnel anymore, huh? No, no. All right, are we ready for the mailbag drop? We need everybody. Al, are you ready? Lights up. Are we ready? Are we ready? We're going to get the lights. Let's go. The lights on the people. Let's go. Mailbag. Yeah, bye-bye-bye. That was pretty good. Beautiful. That was awesome. Into the mail bag we go. Oh, man. Thank you. My name is Aiden. I'm here from here at Los Angeles, California. Who's house? Anyway. So last year, Jamal Williams was an RB1 in fantasy, being the ground and pound guy for the Detroit Lions. So now to bring up my my guy of the year, David Montgomery. Sir, this is not your podcast.
Because I think he has the same upside because he is an even better running back playing the same position. And he's in the seventh round. Do you think he has that level of value in upside? And if so, if so or if not, what, yeah. Sure. Yeah, no, it's a good question. David Montgomery. Yeah, I mean, the counterpart to the, the thunder to the lightning of Jemir Gibbs. Yeah. For Jamal to do what he did last year, and I'll toss to you guys for your thoughts. But you have to have one part, like he's a good goal line running back. Sure.
But you also have to have some luck on your side to have that many opportunities. Like we're not pretending Lindale White of, you know, Beef Boy yesteryear. He wasn't a superstar. He had a outlier type of season. And I view Jamal more that way. But Montgomery's a different player. I think he's probably a more well-rounded, more talented back than where Jamal is in his career. I don't know if you'd agree with that. I put him on pretty equal footing. Deva Montgomery has been. a volume running back for fantasy purposes. He's been, you know, fine, but he's also been inefficient. And I think it just comes down to the luck of, like, guys don't get that many opportunities from the goal line. And the fact that Jemir Gibbs was drafted where he is, sure, he's smaller. Montgomery projects as the goal line running back. What if they say, we're not going to run? We're going to pass because we have Jemir Gibbs. So.
I think that there is, there's an opportunity. David Montgomery is a very interesting draft pick who I think is, like I like his ADP, but I'm not going, I'm not going Jamal for him. Yeah, when I, when I started to stab people out for the UDK, I was, I was pretty bullish on David Montgomery. As time has gone on, I have cooled quite a bit because two reasons. One, I've realized the importance of really, really, really going for upside in your draft, not just like, He's going to only finish good in games he has a touchdown in, but I want someone that could just be awesome. Right where he's going is Giovante Williams, is James Cook, guys who could break out, breakout, not just fall into the end zone a handful of times. And the second reason is that the touchdowns for David Montgomery, inside the five, he's never really been.
Great. You know, rookie are 18 attempts, only five touchdowns. 14 attempts, only four touchdowns. 12 attempts, five last year. He does have a much better offensive line. Yes, a much better offensive line. I do think he'll have a lot of attempts. He will be the goal line back. That's not Jamir Gibbs. It's just not the type of player I want to draft. Maybe Jamir Gibbs was the goal line back though. Maybe. Maybe. I think both of them could be on the field at the same time. Good question. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Next question. All right, what do we got here? Hi there. My name's John Orman. Hey, John. Fellow Arizonian. Oh, I'm so sorry. A little cooler here. Yeah. So my question is, we all did hear your My Guys episode. Hopefully, everybody's here. Yeah, of course. The world hurts. So my main question is, from each of you, who is the one player that you're drafting, regardless of ADP, just to make sure that he is on your team?
Okay, so in 80, the question is, this is an 80P question. Who are you willing to essentially reach? Reach around on. Reach, reach, reach, reach one round on reach for, reach four, reach one single round. You're going to draft them earlier than other people are drafting around the 80P universe. Yeah, stop doing that with your hand. So I'll jump in because. Look, in the first four rounds, I don't want to reach drastically. Like, for my guys, you know, like Chris Olabe, I'll be really aggressive. But for me, it's, it's, well, they're being drafted so high already that that would, yeah, moving up around is kind of. So to me, like, once you hit round six, go get the players that you want to get, the ones that you think have the upside. And.
for me would be Khalil Herbert, Chicago Bears running back. Who's going? I think, thank you, thank you, thank you. He's going in, I think, like, around the ninth, but it's like, he was starting running back. And if you went really wide receiver heavy and you're in the seventh, you're like, no, I got to start making sure I have guys who will get touches, draft Khalil. I'll say Dalton Kincaid. Okay, okay. Simply because if I have to draft them in the ninth instead of the 10th, I'm getting upside, maybe the number two target, and I'm not drafting the kind of pedestrian numbers of like a commet or maybe an Everett or maybe a Higbee. Well, Everett's apparently having seven touchdowns is what I've heard. Yeah, we figured that out. So for me, it's Kincaid. I'd reach a round. Singular. Jason.
This is a player. We talk about in fantasy football in analysis, stay water. There's a player I was not in on in the off season and I have completely changed. She's in the fifth round right now. And if I need a running back in the fourth round, I'm willing to take him there to make sure I get him right now. And it is surprisingly Damien Pierce. Okay. This is a full. It's a full 180. I mean, I was I was really out on Damien Pierce coming in. to this off season, but what we've seen from camp, his utilization, his talent from last year, I think that a fourth round draft capital is replaceable. That doesn't guarantee he's replaced. And right now, he's absolutely not replaced. He's the guy. And he's, he's talented enough. He's also been in on passing down. So, I mean, if you want to talk about a guy in that fourth, fifth round that could finish as an RB1, I don't love the team, but his...
is talent and opportunity is there. So that would be the guy I would reach on. Thanks for the question. Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks, buddy. Next question. Whoa, okay. Oh, the muth is loose. What's up, buddy? What's your name? My name's Travis. I actually, I'm from Kansas City, but I flew him from Tennessee. Awesome. I don't know if anybody else came here from very far, but I wanted to ask you guys a question. There's a guy from Scotland, so. Scotland? I hear there's somebody from farther. Really? Farther than Scotland? Farther than Scotland? What's farther than Scotland? I thought that's the end of the earth. The end of the earth? Well, we'll get there. What's your question, buddy? So when you're in a three-team keeper league, what should you look at as a draft analysis for valuing future for kind of players such as like youth, contracts, and just kind of the teams that they're on and how they'll evolve? Is it, what are the keeper penalties? What do you pay? Do you pay?
The round you drafted them in? Do you pay 80P? What's the... Specifically in our league, we don't actually have a penalty around these keepers. So it's just free-for-all. Free keepers. So you usually look at top of the draft boards. That's how ours is as well. I'll hop in first. You give absolutely zero farts. You don't care at all. That's professional advice. In a three-keeper league, draft Derek Henry, and don't worry about his next season. There are so many players like a Damien Pierce. that will come out of nowhere that's going to crack your top three that you need, draft the best players. It's so rare that the three players that you think at the beginning of the year going to be your keepers, end up your keepers. Even if you have guys that are youthful and have great potential, like you end up with that changing, you know, trades, players that you drafted later in the draft that end up developing, it's just so rare to have that happen that I think over-focusing on youth or like having them on your roster. Now, do you...
Do you get to keep them indefinitely? Do you have to give them back after a couple of years? So we don't have any restrictions based off of it. So you are able to continue for the career. So like if I draft Bijon, I can have him for the entire life of his career. Sure. So I want. Yeah, Bijon is a little different, but like it really doesn't bother me if in a redraft, not a keeper. If someone wants to call their shot and say, I'm taking Bejon at the 101. I don't think it's like a ridiculous thing to do. So.
In a keeper league, yeah, you draft someone like Bijon whenever you want. All right. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Next. I think it's the last question. It's the final question. It's an empty microphone. Who do we got? Who do we got, Josh? There we go. He's approaching, which, hey. We need walkout music here. Got the Keenan jersey on. Hey, before you jump in, hey. Shout out to the people who have the courage to come up here. There's a spotlight on this person in front of a thousand people of their peers. So just want to say, I commend the courage. Now, don't screw up. Yeah. Also, what's your dumb question? Like a million people listening. What's up, fellas? My name is Kyle. What's up, Kyle? My question has to do with...
whether or not you're comfortable with drafting multiple rookies as foundational pieces of your roster. For example, I love both Bijan Robinson and Jemir Gibbs. I've drafted them as my RB1 and RB2, and part of me likes that, but part of me also wonders if that's too risky because they're both rookie running back. So I'm curious where your guys' thoughts are on that. I mean, I would say that that really does not scare me in the slightest. People like this question. We've rattled off the stats of running backs with that draft capital. At that age, it works out. They both have a pass catching superpower. So anyone, like any player can have a bad year. So go for the players who can have elite years. Well, I was just going to say it's a lot easier with Bijan and Jamir Gibbs, who were both top 12 picks in the NFL draft. So you know that they're going to have day one opportunities.
Traditionally, some rookie running backs, it takes a while. So if you draft them to be foundational, you better have some pivot options because you might get what you wanted back half of the year. Yeah, but those are the only two foundational options in this year's draft. The next highest drafted rookie is just rookies in general. Is seventh round Jordan Addison. And I am fine. Like if you watch our mock drafts. I load up on the rookies. I will leave every single draft with four rookies. If I can get Tank Bigsby and Kendra Miller along with a Jordan Addison and one of those two stud running backs, I'm thrilled to do that. But you wouldn't start maybe Addison and Flowers Week 1. No, no. If they're foundational, you might not have that chance to.
Sure. To lock them in to start the year. Right. But if I'm drafting those two players, it's the seventh round, the ninth round. I have other players to start, and I want the upside at the end of the season that those rookies bring. And really, truly, like, rookie draft picks are usually where success is found. And if they're not, I mean, most of these rookies are ninth round or later. If they don't hit, whatever, move on. But there's usually the people next to them that you're drafting that aren't rookies that you've seen for a while. They break out at a lower rate. Another way to answer it would be if you drafted Bijon first and then you're coming up on a pick. I'm not avoiding Jimmy or Gibbs just because I drafted a rookie. You're not really considering that. Thanks for the question. All right. We want to thank Underdog Fantasy for helping us put on this amazing event. We want to thank Spotify and the NFL this past week and for their hospitality. Got to spend some time there. Saw SoFi for the first time. It was awesome.