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Jason returns from an absence while Jake Griz fills in, and the hosts discuss how a real League of Record-style keeper league handles offseason trades.
throwing the ball deep as much over the last couple of years. Yeah, I mean, the chiefs are pretty much always now going to be facing, you know, the two safeties back there. They don't want to be beat by Mahomes over the top. And Mahomes is like, all right, I'll beat you under the, you know, under the table. Under the top. Under the table, just easy, peasy. Hollywood, to me, is a guy that. I'm fine with them in best ball and there's obviously a path towards a breakout fantasy season. But if I had to guess, I would feel like 808 at the end of the year on like 65 receptions, something like that. He was not that good in Arizona. No, no, he wasn't. He was hurt a lot. I was going to say he missed a lot of time and the heel issue this last season was bad. So health could be.
part of it because he had I mean he had a 90 reception thousand yard season with the Ravens and so now you get Patrick Mahomes and there's there's a path he's also not he's only 26 years old he's not past his prime or done if he's healthy he could be a good weapon here but the way that the office has worked for the chiefs I don't expect prolific you know counting stats at the end does it hurt your view of Rashi rice at all Not too much because my view with Rashi Rice was always, like I presumed that the 30 second pick in this year's draft was a wide receiver. Every mock draft you see is like, oh, it's Troy Franklin, Xavier, Xavier worthy. It's, and it could be, but now I don't think it will be. And so I'm just replacing that rookie with Hollywood in my mind. That makes sense. Yeah. And the difference between Hollywood and, you know, Tony and NBS is that he's not just some player with like.
potential that we've never seen take over a game like Hollywood's had big time games do you care more about this signing though Curtis Samuel three year 24 million dollar deal with the Buffalo bills 15 million guaranteed I what a stupid what a stupid weird yeah I do I care more about Curtis Samuel I think I care more about Curtis Samuel than Hollywood Brown I'm kind of in on this move. I kind of, are you there too? I didn't know this. I thought for sure you would not be in on this. Samuel Bros. I, I am kind of in on this. I mean, Gabe Davis has been relevant. Obviously, you got Josh Allen. Stefan Diggs was disappearing. They need another wide receiver as desperately as any team. He's so multi-talented. He can take snaps out of the backfield if you need him to. He can play the slot. He can challenge you downfield. And.
And he got some money. I mean, three-year, $24 million deal, $15 million guaranteed. They are bringing him in to be an important part of an important offense. Remember how many games last year we were like, uh, Terry McLaurin, Johan Dotson, here we go. And then it would just be Curtis Samuel. Yeah. He's a pretty talented dude. And this is going to be the best quarterback he's had an opportunity to play with, I think. You think? Well, yeah, I was going back to like Cam Newton, but Cam was not like Prime Cam, I think, during the Samuel. injury years. So like Sam Howell. Right. That's the closer debate. Right. Yeah. Joe Mixen after the trade, which I didn't get your reaction to that, but talk about a roller coaster for Dynasty mixing managers goes from, oh no, he might not play. Oh, he's the start. Oh, three year extension. Now he's the Texans dude. It really was. They're going to cut Joe Mix and replace it with Moss. Nope, they're not cutting them. They're trading them. Extended. It was crazy.
27 years old. Do you know the number he was last year? What he finished at running back? Because I asked Mike this question. Take a guess. Eight? I think Mike guessed eight is five. Oh, wow. He was the RB5 last year. Texans team that can run the football. Singletary look good there despite the offensive line issues. If they can solidify that line. There was almost no running back at the end of last year that impressed me more than Joe Mixon. When he was, I mentioned it in one of our early offseason episodes, how much you remind me of James Connor at the end of the previous season for the Cardinals where you don't have your starting quarterback. And you're playing with a backup and the team knows you're going to get the ball and you're just picking up extra yards on every single play. And he.
really did well down the stretch more than I thought he could or should have done. And so getting a three-year extension, being part of an awesome offense, I like this landing spot. Here's my one concern, okay? We were kind of okay with Mix in the last year or two because we knew he'd get everything. He is. He had 80.8% of the rush share in Cincinnati. His consistency rank was a B. 70% of the time over 10.5 fantasy points. He had 21 red zone attempts. To me, he's going to have to do more around the goal line in Houston to make up for probably sharing a little bit more work with Damien Pierce.
Do you think that will be the case or do you think? I don't think that'll be the case. Devin Singletary's. I don't think it'll be the case. Damien Pierce is not this regime's dude. Down the stretch, Damien Pierce's snap counts were 14%, 5%, 15%, 20%. That's not even a healthy backup. That's just, you know, give a guy a breather type of snaps. Yeah, on the year he was 46% of the rush share, but over the back half of the year. Yeah, because at the beginning of the year, they're like, Damien Pierce is going to be our guy. 16% of snaps of the last seven games. Yeah, exactly. The beginning of the year before their buy week, he was up at 50% of the snaps, 49% of the snaps. We like to be accurate here. And then they were like, he's not getting it done. And so then they switched to Singletary and then they trade for Mixin and extend him. Mixon's their guy. Right, right. No, the extension proves it. Michael Gallup designated as the post-June first release. Boy, they got, did they get literally nothing for that?
extension for Michael Gallup? Yeah, pretty much. That was post injury, right? Correct. He was already, he had his ACL and they're like, no, we made the right decision with Amari Cooper. We'll prove it to you. And then 34 receptions and 400 yards later. He's on the, so they void a third, he would have made $13 million and then $15 million. Is it, Kyle, is that money gone off the books? That's not money owed, right? They have to pay him $9.5 million and then $8.7 next year. They paid a ton of money for him to not play for them. I mean, I know the answer will be more than this, but if you told me he caught five passes from the time he got the contract, I'd be like, yeah, that sounds about right. Five passes worth of impact. That's a wild one. He was never the same. No, he wasn't, but he'll sign somewhere and people will draft him.
All right. Let's take another quick break. We've got more news to talk about. We've got some mailbag questions. Be right back. All right. We did have Minnesota trading to get the 23rd pick. Jason, did you see that move? I did see that. I hope I've seen all the moves here. But yes, the presumption from a lot of pundits out there are this is a move in order to move up for a quarterback. Have some ammo. Yeah, a lot of people are... Denver's at 12. Minnesota's at 11, and I feel like those two teams could fight over JJ McCarthy. For sure. And how high they're able to, you know, rise up is a question. Do you want to get to the Cardinals at 4? Do you want to try to... I saw the funniest thing. Man, I wish I could give credit. See if you can find the tweet, Kyle. But someone had a great thought. So basically...
KJ. Osborne signed a one-year deal with the Patriots. Yes, that just broke. Yes. That move basically assured the Vikings of a third round. A compensatory? A good story pick with the way that the math and the free agency went this off season. And so it was like, could the Patriots have conspired? We will sign him so you can get an extra third so we can have your third and take. And trade the number three pick back to the 12 with the hall. And it's okay because we basically manufactured you another third round pick. That's, and they paid for it. Yeah, it's not going to happen. That's really funny. I loved the concept. Yeah, it'll be interesting. They're going to need a lot more than 11 and 23 to move up to 3. That's for sure. A.J. Dillon, one year deal back with the Packers. 5.3 a carry 4.3 a carry 4.1 to carry 3.4 a carry.
At this rate, he could be going backwards soon. Yeah, but Josh Jacobs, I think, has also been going backwards. We didn't talk about that. I mean, you. Give me your impression here. I am not. They obviously made the move. They decided to go with youth over paying Aaron Jones. I don't blame the Packers for making the move. I think it's a decent financial and wise move for the Packers, but I do believe Josh Jacobs will be a worse running back this coming year for the Packers. than Aaron Jones was this pasture. I do think Aaron Jones is a better runner. I just durability has been an issue. All right. Anything else? Oh, Lions re-signed Donovan People's Jones. Ram signed Jimmy G. Adam Troutman re-signed. Oh, Mike's not here. Jay Gris, big fan. Yeah, he is my tight-in 51 in startup breakers. I found that out today. So, congrats. You didn't move them up?
Troutman. No, no, no. No, but I didn't move him down either. So he stayed right there, 51. So in your four tight in leagues, he's relevant. Yeah. Uh, Jason, you got the, uh, oh, am I doing the mail bag here? Pipes? Mail bag. Okay. Not good. Not good. No, but I think it was a lack of enthusiasm that hurt you. I tried to pull back. I noticed. Yeah, we could tell. And it didn't work. I won't put you on the spot again. I just, next time I won't. More effort. All right. And yes, I will. Mike will probably be gone on Thursday. Okay. Maybe we'll pick one of the deusers. You know, you know who won't have that shot to do it is Brooks. Oh. So maybe a Brooks mailbag on Thursday. Oh, maybe. Stay tuned. Brooks, do you want to get in front of the mirror and practice? We'll see what happens. We'll see. All right. This just in Brooks sick on Thursday.
All right. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Do you forget our website? No, no, no. Okay, good. Visit the website and click the submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline 30246464 TFFB. All right, we've got some voicemail questions. Jason, you ready? I am. Howdy Ballers? I'm JP from Virginia. I'm 11 years old. I need some help with my Ryanback keepers. I'm already keeping Tyree Kill, so I've only got one spot between Junior Gibbs and Saquan Barclay. Please help me. I lost the title game last year to my mom. P.S., they had a Jay Gris for me. Okay, Jay Gris says high back. Does he? Was it JP? Is that the name? Yeah, JP. JP. JP? Thank you.
Gibbs and Saquan. That's a tough one. It really is. I think I'd go Gibbs. I will go Gibbs as well. Gibbs was the running back 10 this last year, despite missing two games and being a rookie. But if you're a big Eagles fan? Well, sure. I mean, if you, I think it's close. Is it that close? It is close enough. It's close enough where if it's like, I love the Eagles. We got our guy, Sequin. I don't. I think JP's a big Eagles fan. I think there's a compelling argument that could be made for either one of these guys over the other. For me, I usually side on youth and explosiveness. I think Sequin is still an explosive athlete, an above average running back, but he's not, he doesn't have the juice that Jemir Gibbs has right now. He will have, I believe, more of the role.
And it's ironic because both of these guys aren't really projected to be the goal line back, right? David Montgomery and Jalen Hertz are their team's goal line back. I think there's some hope in Philadelphia that are not in Philadelphia, but hope in the fantasy community that Sequin will get more goal line. One, because he's good at it, two, because Jason Kelsey's retired. Sure, the touch push might not be as successful. I think, you know, inside the five, Sequin will get work. But that is outside the one. Right. It's like if you're at the one, it is going to be the touch. Any advice for JP 11 years old but lost to his mom in the title game? Keep Gibbs. Is that more chores? I mean, what is the more chores? I mean, do you get punished? Well, is that advice for the mother? I mean, the mother should definitely give him more chores for winning. Hold that over him. That's what I mean. Yeah. What you want to do if you go into the championship game like against a family member.
You've got to put something on the line. You got to, and we're not talking money. We're talking stuff like chores. Yeah. If maybe this next year like foot massage. If you beat mom, she'll do your homework for you. Oh, okay. So for a week. Perfect. Great. Is that cheating? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think the school wants me doing my child's homework for them. I think if they, they would say this or this essay was, what a goody two shoes. This essay was excellent. All right. I know it wasn't your sons. It's chat GPT. You know that. That's all I meant by doing their homework. I'd plug it into chat GPT. Jalen, which part of the NFL offseason do you like more prefer talking about, free agency or the NFL draft? Draft. Yeah. I guess I agree with that. Although they're both very fun. Yeah. The news breaking for free agency is exhilarating. Yeah, I think it's the fact that with it's just time, right? Like free agency is.
It's like a week, a week of awesomeness. But the draft, you've got a month of scouting, a month of preparation, and then you get a couple days of just all the answers. And then afterwards, then you start talking about it again. You're not going to like this next one. Okay. Don't read it. Go to the following question. No, Mr. underscore Feeney 104. Love the show. What do you think about the proposed 18 game schedule? and the fantasy impact because we are getting 18 at some point. For sure. I don't have any problem with it. When the new CBA was signed several years ago, we knew then. I think we forget now that we knew then, but we knew it was going to go to 17 and then 18. So this has always been the presumption. We can have one more game. Everyone will have 1,000 yards seasons. That's the funniest because that doesn't get out of your psyche. No, no. Everybody that gets 1,000 yards. You've got a whole extra game now.
17 games and still still it's a benchmark. Yeah, that will always be the benchmark because it's such a run. That's 55 yards a game. At 17 or 18 games? At 18. Yeah. That's not a lot. No, if you had, if you're like, hey, my running back went out and had 55 yards. 10 for 55 and no touchdowns. You're like, 1,000 yard runner. Yeah, that guy sucks. Um. Tyler and Pittsburgh, you will be selecting just one player to keep from last season. Oh, we will be selecting just one player to keep from last season in our league. Should the draft order be randomized before or after our keeper selections are finalized? If it's random, why would it make a difference? Am I misunderstanding the question? I don't understand the question. We will be selecting just one player to keep from last season. Okay. So one keeper in our league.
Got it. Should the draft order be randomized before or after our keeper select? Okay. So I do understand. I do understand. We're done. Just wants to know, like, do you make the keeper selections first or after the draft order, which is randomized? Because that might determine what keepers you'd pick. I think you should pick them first and then randomize it. Yeah, I would lean that way as well. We did it, Jay. We got it. Here's another voicemail question. Hey, what did it do, do, ballers? This is the biggest poopy loser face of the Toquane Dynasty League, aka Wallaby here, and here's my question. What player are you most scared about losing dynasty value from the NFL draft? Thanks, guys. Appreciate the show. There's so much poop in that. Which player are you most scared of losing dynasty value in the NFL draft? Do you have somebody that pops to the top of your mind?
I'm going to browse a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it's funny because I could see a world where it happens, but I don't believe it's going to happen. So I don't have fear. Like Karen Williams is the type of player where there's not a lot to the depth chart. And if that team decided they needed to take a high end running back and they take the first running back off the board, that would answer this question. I don't think it's going to happen. So I'm not really afraid of it. Other than... That's part of the equation is whether you think these teams are going to lean in on those. There's been several big impact free agency situations. I mean, to me, Jordan Addison dropped down a few rungs with the move of Kirk Cousins. He's a deep threat. He reminds me a lot of Darnel Mooney type of talent. And when you don't have accuracy throwing it deep, it might hurt you.
You know, is your view on Justin Jefferson going to change in a dynasty league if they don't draft the quarterback? If you go into the season with Sam Darnold on a one-year deal. I think it's a fair question. You brought up, I mentioned it on the show because you had talked about it. There were, you know, the Juju Smith-Schuster's of the world that were the number one pick in dynasty drafts that just, you know, it evaporated. Oh, yeah. I mean, we've had that several times. It's funny because, like, it's hard now to think of Michael Thomas as what he was.
Michael Thomas was super young, a superstar, the number one fantasy finisher at wide receiver with what appeared to be a decade left of value. He got injured. Okay, well, whatever. Everybody, you know, people get injured. His career is done. He never, once he got that injury, he never had a fantasy relevant season again. He now was cut and does not have a team. It's almost unthinkable to say like Justin Jefferson. It just sounds stupid if I'm like, well, Justice Jefferson's done. No, he's not done. He's so good. But it's like, okay, but this is the NFL. And crazy things like that happen. It would have been just as impossible to think about that for Michael Thomas. Couldn't come back from this injury, got re-agravated. A couple years go by, didn't have the right quarterback anymore. Drew Brees was gone. It's like, okay, Justin Jefferson got injured. He doesn't have Kirk Cousins anymore. If he gets injured again this year and the quarterback issues a problem and they draft the wrong guy or don't have a solution,
maybe he's all of a sudden close to done. And I'm not going to say that. You couldn't say that. He's just too talented. But that was the thought process with Juju at one point. That was the thought process with Michael Thomas at one point. So when you do think that these guys at the very top of your dynasty, you know, your Jamar Chase and C.D. Lamb and Justin Jefferson are just invincible decade-long assets. It is not a guarantee. I have three names that I think could be impacted by NFL draft picks in a significant way. One, are any of them George Pickens? George Pickens is the first one. That's my answer to. Yeah, because if they took a high profile wide receiver, which they need to. It changes. Well, they're visiting with Mike Williams. We'll see. So Pickens is one. Stefan Diggs, after the Samuel signing, if they happen to draft another one. And Diggs is already tweeting random things again.
And I'm going to throw one more out there that is interesting. Nick Chubb. Oh, okay. I see that a lot. Because you want the debt chart to stay his. Right. To have him allowed to come back on a good timeline. If they usurp him with talent, he might not have the opportunity that he would require coming off of a brutal injury. That's a good name. Yeah, I'd really. I struggle with him on my dynasty rankings right now on where to put him. YouTube question from Swaghawks says, how do I get my five-year-old into football? Can you go to my camera right here? There's this fine book over here. It's called My Football Family, and you can pick that up. And then if they read it 10 times, they will become an NFL player. Man. Yeah. I should have read. Is there an age limit, or can you do that? Any age, up to five.
Oh, so you better get on it. You've got a five-year-old now. Don't wait until next year. You know, a lot of people thought that like our kids all played fantasy really young, having done this for a job. You know, my son probably really started getting into it at seven or eight when he enjoyed just watching games with me. You know, one of them doesn't enjoy it at all. It's just the way it goes. So I think it's the same answer for any hobby. Right. If you do it with the kid and play. football and watch football and they like it, then they'll probably get into it. Right. You can't always make kids like certain things. No. No. All right. Keeper question. Chris wants to know. Keep two. Jason. Bejohn? Yeah. I'll keep one. The beijon. Puka. Puka. I'll keep two. That was easy. Pijon and Puka. Cairn. Oh, come on, man. Full PPR. Give me the running backs. Give me the running backs. Yep. I'm with you.
And Matt in New York, hey, Baller's dynasty question, would you rather have Kyle Pitts in the 202? Or Garrett Wilson? Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson. Yeah, that's for sure. All right. On Thursday, we're going to cover biggest free agency winners and losers, unless like 30 more things happen, and then we'll just talk about those, and then we'll talk about winners and losers. But it's been a wild, crazy off season. We've already got some dynasty trades flying around in our leagues. And, I mean, some trade offers that have just been just gross, just awful. But that's... Fantasy football. Dynasty, I find to be the most difficult to trade because people's viewpoint on it is so, the spectrum is so wide on what they think a player will be long-term, short-term. You don't know if the person that you think is building for the future is building for the present. You don't know if the person building for the present is actually going to rebuild. You never know what the opponent's doing. Yeah, but oftentimes you look at their team and you know what they should do.
You do, but they don't. I mean, they just... Like, why are you not taking this deal? You're not making the playoffs. And then they're like, I'm making the playoffs. And then they don't take the deal. And then they don't make the playoffs. And you laugh at their face. Sorry, Brandon. All right, that'll do it for today. It was hypothetical. Fantasy Footballers podcast. Thank you for joining us back with you on Thursday. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com and follow us on Twitter at theFF ballers.