Fantasy Football - Week 12 Start/Sit + TNF Preview, Raider Rants! - Podcast for 11/19

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Wednesday, November 19th. Jason Moore is here. I'm Andy Holloway. Two-man band a day. Great show for you. Even better show. I didn't want to say it. Right. It's not because Mike's not here. It's because the bear is here. Right. That's what it is. Let's go with that. Let's go with that.

Um, what's up, my best friend? What's going on? A lot to get into. We got football coming up soon tomorrow. And you know who's playing in that game? Um, I think some teams. Keon Coleman. He's back. Oh, baby. Did he get the, um, they didn't do the one drive thing with him. They did the one game. They did the one game. They did the one game. And the one drive thing. It worked so well for. Is that for Keon? Yeah. That's key on. Oh, Jason said his name reminded me of that. I mean. You saw the evidence of what a small suspension, a little benching did for CD. Right. I mean, now- What can a whole game do? Yeah. I mean, Keon's going off. We got word this morning that against all odds and all opposition, Shadoor Sanders will be starting for the Browns. And all coaches decisions. Oh, yeah. I mean, they're like taken out of his hands. They actually tried from what I understand. They, one of the janitors, they tried to suit them up.

but um couldn't sling it couldn't sling it like shaddor so shaddor sanders getting the start we got that word moments ago and get practice with some first some of the first team yeah for the first time yeah i mean there's been a lot of because the internet is stupid there's been a lot of controversy about whether backups get first team reps or not and and you know james jones came out yesterday said every single practice with bret farb last few snaps would go to erin rogers because You want to know that they can do it if they need to come in because injuries happen. Yeah, and I would understand the argument of like, well, but that was Aaron Rogers. He was a first round pick. Like they're wanting to get him some snaps. They know he's the future. But also the counter argument is it was Brett Farv. You had Brett Farv that you're taking first snaps away from. Not Dylan Gabriel. Or as you call him, Gill and Gabriel. I don't even, I black out when I say his name now. No, it's fine. You've got your Ariana Grande names. You got your Gillandabriel's.

The Browns are playing the Raiders. Speaking of the Raiders, we talked. Oh, we were very kind about them. Yeah, we talked about them a lot yesterday, kind of ranted about what's going on in Las Vegas. And, you know, I mentioned that if we had done that about the Bears, who are congrats, seven and three, top year division. Winning close, unwinnable games. Give them a round of applause. Yeah, baby, go Bears. We don't know how long that's going to last. But when you got the bear in the house. Yeah, congratulations. Congratulations to Bears fans. They'll still be mad at this. But the Raiders fans didn't see a lot of vitriol coming back at us. Yeah. It's kind of like our Cardinal sentiments where it's, they hate that team. We had somebody right in about it. Hi, this is Ozzie from Anaheim. I'm sure. I just wanted to say that I heard you guys talk about the Raiders. And as a Raiders fan, we know it totally sucks. It's like waiting to get ice cream and somebody shows a...

scoop of poop, a poop on your ice cream cone. When you want an ice cream, or it's kind of like main traffic. Never get out of traffic. Just one accident that is Josh McDaniels. We just got to get packed back. Oh, an accident, they don't cuddle. We should get packed back back. I love the show. Thanks, guys. Yeah. One accident after another, it's, uh, some teams feel that way. I like the, I like the poop in the ice cream. I thought you would. Metaphor. No, that's spot on. But Raiders fans mostly just agreeing and hating their team the way that we hate our team most of the time. So moving on from that. We have a new leader in the Megalobole every Wednesday. We've been giving you the Mega Bowl leader. It is now M. Taylor 97. Meow? Yeah. That could be Mason Taylor. That might be the actual Titan. He's not doing a lot these days.

probably on his phone during the route, knowing the ball's not coming his way. So congrats M. Taylor 97. We have weekly rankings for the upcoming, what, with three weeks left until a fantasy playoff. So go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com, start sit tool. This is a really fun time of year. When you've got three weeks left before the playoffs, you can actually go start looking at your league and look at seating, look at. other people's schedules like, okay, I've got to overcome these two guys. Now my next three weeks is against, oh, this is easy, that's easy, that's hard. Go look at their schedule too. You can actually start having a feel for what you need to do, which weeks matter the most. I mean, it's a good time to, we did waivers yesterday. We didn't say this on yesterday's show, but you need more than one defense on your team. Yep. Most likely. I mean, plan your schedule out. Make sure you have every.

small advantage against your opponents when it's time to make the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, I almost, I'm playing Mike in, Mike's, Mike's off here, gallivanting in Disneyland while, while we have this matchup in both of our main leagues. You play in both leagues? Yes, League of Record and the main Dynasty League. Both leagues, we have two of the best teams. Both leagues, Mike might have the best team. And so we're going head to head in both those. And he leaves like the coward he is. But he's just so cozy with his roster. Coward or chill, one of the two. But he's he's got to play Flacco. And he's got to play Flacco without Jamar Chase. And I'm looking at that matchup and I almost dropped Brock Bert, Brock Purdy. And I was like,

I don't think I want to drop him and then have him play him against me and have that be. Does that ever happen to you before? Joyc Bell, you son of us. I mean, no, that one hurt. That one hurt back in the day. Yeah. So, no, it is, it is that time of year. You can, you can look at those matches. We have the most data we've ever had. So you know, really how. Like all of our streamfinder tool and the strength of schedule tool, you can break those down into like the last five weeks, the last eight weeks. You can look at it in a smaller window. Defense is like Baltimore getting better over time versus the whole year. You kind of can make the most informed decisions, right? We don't control what happens on the field. We don't know what happens with the weather. We don't know what happens with injuries. But you're just trying to, this show is built around putting all of the information out there and then letting you make your best decision to give you the best odds to win every week. And that's...

What we're going to try to do today. We got mailbag today. We got backup options. We've got news to catch you up on. So we'll get it started, Jay. Backup options, presented by progressive insurance. Well, every week after waivers run, we remind you to drop it like it's hot, which means take a look at the waiver wire, see who players are letting go of. and make sure that they didn't let somebody spicy drop to the waiver wire. We are looking today at some backup options, right? You missed the guy you wanted, so we're going to give you some names that you can chase. I also want to mention Jason the most dropped players on Sleeper over the last 24 hours in whether you agree with sending them to the waiver wire. Sure.

This one surprises me, but I also understand why it's happening. Joe Flacco is one of the most dropped players. I do get it. I don't know if you really want to start him without Chase and then how soon before Burrow is back. I probably, it's Baltimore next week. I would make the change. I mean, I just thought Mike would be better suited with Purdy. Yeah, you might. If there's a better quarterback, that's why I would drop Joe Flacco. I'm not just dropping him. And then Mariotta and Aaron Rogers, Rogers with the hand injury. Not a, not an every week start anyways. Yeah, Mario, same story. Yeah. Giacori Kroski Merritt, who is now basically a second, third string running back, who's going to stay there, and it's on a bye week. So I get it. I would be fine moving on from him if there's a better running back available.

Kamani Vidal going into the by week, off of the injury in a bad week with Hampton waiting in the wings. I understand it. I probably wouldn't drop it. I wouldn't do that. The next one, Rashad White, I don't think I would do that one either. I realize he got overtaken by Sean Tucker and Bucky's coming back, but Bucky's had such a weird injury. I don't think there's, I don't think it's really solid. I would still hold on to him. Parker Washington at wide receiver, probably the biggest name that I'm seeing there, I. would still hold on to him personally. Yeah, I would. I mean, there's, I think when you drop Parker after a bad game, you fear that he Cinderella Pumpkin, you know, he's back into the pumpkin. Right. Yeah, Travis Fulgumden. It hit, it hit midnight and he is who we knew he was. You know, it's not like Parker, Parker, Parker, Washington's a fine player. I think he's, I think he's going to get plenty of targets with no Travis Hunter. Brian Thomas Jr., who knows. Yeah.

And this last week, they destroyed on both sides of the ball. It was a running game, Tootin, ETN. I'm not that. I think Parker's a flexible guy personally. Zacherts, Kate Otten, Dawton, Dawson Knox. We just got where the Dalton Kincaid's going to be out another week. It's Buffalo Houston on Thursday. Yeah, not a great matchup for the bills. Like another player that was very commonly dropped, was Keon Coleman. I must have felt good. Yeah, I mean, obviously he was a healthy scratch. on. But I, you know, I still see an avenue where he could be a plugged in starter this week, no, with the Dalton Kincaid? No. Not against Houston. Yeah, they're, I don't want to mess around with. They're a top D against pretty much every position. Yeah, I mean, maybe he could catch a touchdown, but that's, that's everybody. All right, backup options, names that we didn't necessarily bring up yesterday. You should pay attention to. I'm going to say,

You know, we know Joe Flacco likes to sling it. No Jamar Chase. That suspension has been upheld. Andre Yoshivas, Yoshivos for Cincinnati. You guys brought up Fant yesterday, I think. Yep. You know, Yoshivas is a very capable receiver when you have an opportunity to step in. If you can give him more targets, he's only had one game without Jamar Chase in his career. He saw eight targets in that one. And Flacco's averaging 43 passing attempts. Yeah, it feels like a Michael Wilson situation where it's like Joe Flagg was going to throw for a lot of yards and have a lot of attempts. The matchup against New England is not some super scary matchup. So the ball will have to go more than just T. Higgins. I picked up Yoshi Voss in a league and I'm starting him. He was replacing Tyler Lockett for me this week. Yep. My backup options. I've got two of them. Neither are.

probably playing, so it's a little bit harder, which is why they're getting dropped everywhere. One definitely isn't. One definitely isn't Quinn Johnston. He's going on to buy. He's got a goose in two of his last four weeks. I get it, man, punt him off the bridge. The Chargers just got shellacked by the Jaguars. Their offensive line is toast, and the vibes aren't great. Here's a thing, though, great franchises, and the Chargers have not been one historically. But you look at what happened with Baltimore. Baltimore was, what, one in five? The wheels were falling off. The vibes weren't great. Lamar was injured. Their entire defense was injured. They got to that by week, and they're a good franchise with a Harbaugh led coach, with belief in themselves. Harbaugh leads himself? He is a Harbaugh. Harbaugh led coach is what you said. I don't think that's what you meant. No, I think it is, but I think he's a Harbaugh led coach.

I mean, technically, okay. Anyways, their coach is a Harbaugh who leads them. And I mean, they've won four or five before last week. You just throw that one out. I'm with you. They're a great team. But their offensive line struggles. They can't just patchwork things when they're missing guys in the middle of a run of games, but give them this little break and see the team kind of heal up and come back after the by strong. Quentin Johnston is tied for six right now in receiving touchdowns in the league. You know, he's top 30 in pretty much all the yards, receptions. And so I think he is a good enough player where I'm not getting rid of him. And he's the type of player where we're starting Parker Washington's. We're starting Yoshi vosses off the bench in certain weeks.

I would still rather have Quentin Johnston active. I would too. Look, there are some players that when they're disappointments for such a long period of time like Quentin Johnston was, the second they have a bad week or a bad couple weeks, we all jump ship. We're all like, yeah, that's what I thought. He sucks. I mean, what is it? There was a point in this season where he was one of the best receivers in the game. You could watch the tape. It wasn't an accident. No, you could watch the tape. He's coming back to the quarterback. Look, it happens. Their offensive line is abysmal.

He is a player that does benefit from more time. Yeah, more time in the pocket. Let the fields develop the deeper routes. I mean, right now it's like the three-step drop, get it to lad. If they're able to come out of the biweek and heal up, I think brighter days are head for Quentin Johnson. And your other name is the one that I think people should definitely jump on. Yes. So Darius Slayton missed this last game with a hamstring issue. You know, wink. Okay. Got engaged this week. Oh, my hammy. Oh, is that really what happened? Yeah, that's, I mean, he got engaged this week. He got engaged this week. Congratulations. So maybe he went down on one knee on accident because of the hamstring. Just went down too quick to that knee. And then she assumed, and it was really the hammy. So, but he is dealing with the hamstring issue. Also, congratulations on your engagement. But Darius Slayton is, he's perfect for James. And I think he's perfect for Jackson Dart too. Dart got a promising report today. Yeah. So I'm just saying either way. It's not Russ.

And that's what's important here. So Darius Slayton, great upcoming schedule too. That was backup option sponsored by progressive insurance quote today at progressive.com. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. Well, Jamar Chase's suspension was upheld. We have news. Mike Tomlin saying he's optimistic about Jalen Warren playing in week 12. But we'll be limited in practice early in the week. This is. I mean, it's big news if you wanted to take your shot on Kenny Gainwell, who I think everybody would start if Warren was out. Yes, for sure. Aaron Rogers does not need surgery on his wrist. He is not expected to practice to start the week, but is planning on playing against Chicago. He's pushing to play. I don't know if we can plan for that yet. What a big game for Chicago. If they could somehow beat Pittsburgh this week and go to, what, eight and three?

I mean, the division? I think people are asking the question right now is like, okay, the Chicago Bears are leading the division. And all three of us in the divisional round, we picked Chicago to finish last because this is a brutal division. The Vikings are supposed to be great. They're, they're, JJ McCarthy's not doing very good. I watched, I watched JJ McCarthy film. Yeah, it's not good, man. But I, luckily I didn't eat before, but go on. You know, and the lions are. legitimately awesome. The Packers are great. So the question is like, will the Bears make the playoffs? They don't have three weeks left. They've got, you know, we've got fantasy playoffs. It's a long time left. And I think the answer to that question comes this week. If they win this game, I think they're going to have the lead and the juice where they make it. If they lose this one, it's going to be tough sledding. All right. I get it. It's a big game for them. Shoulder will start against the Raiders. Like, I mean, that's

That's not the worst opponent to go out there and... Stefansky said as he threw his clipboard to the ground. He'll get a week of practice. Maybe he won't get any first team reps this week. Wouldn't that really send a message? No competitive advantage here for him either. I think that's on purpose, right? Now, Shudor will get the start and look, I'm excited. I want to just see what happens. At least they play the Raiders. I mean... I will say Max Crosby should have a field day. Shador Sanders' biggest problem on film was always like... Holding onto the ball. Just the pocket. He never steps up in a pocket, ever. He will scramble and run and step through and run, but he will just keep backing up. And he's going to back up into long, deep sacks from Mason Crosby. Yeah, buddy. Yeah. Jackson Dard expected to return to practice today. Right? That's what's going to happen. Good.

Mike McDonald, this is, this is, I mean, Mike's not here to absorb it. Everything's going, everything's going, Mike. I mean, he's in Disney. I know. It's really, was this all improvved after Trayvion and he's like, where else? His wife said, how do you get happier right now? Yeah, it was like, what are you going to do? He said, I'm going to Disney. It was the classic. Well, here's the next bit of Disneyland news for Mike. Mike McDonald said Kenneth Walker is, quote, showing that he's earning more opportunities to get the ball. Yeah, because he's, he ran well. Yeah. He is the better, he's the better running back. And so if they get him more work, there's more opportunities and chances for him to break one off. It's very similar to Trayvion Henderson, where his first breakout game a couple weeks ago, it was, Mike was making the point. It's like most of his carries didn't go for a lot of yards, but he ended up with almost three, but two huge breakaway touchdown runs because you kept.

giving him opportunities and that's that's the same type of player kenneth walker is we had the most opportunities for walker since week four last week we had the most receptions since week one last week for walker and the snap count still 51 but hey i'll take that over the 44 and the 35 and other stuff that we were getting maybe some promising opportunities ahead and that's it For news and notes, sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive.com, progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third-party insurers. Not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll hit the preview. Thursday night breakdown. The Buffalo Bills at 7 and 3. Take on the Houston Texans, Jason, who are 5 and 5 thanks to Davis Mills leadership. And viewing angle. I mean, up above the pocket. Yeah.

30,000 foot view. Buffalo minus five and a half on the road over under 43 and a half. You know, frankly, I feel like this game, I would probably take the under. And I think we might be in, I mean, short week, Thursday night games have been, I mean, we've had a 10 to 7 Thursday night game in recent history that we expected a lot of. Buffalo, Houston, the Houston defense at home, I think that makes a big difference. Houston is fighting desperately to stay in the AFC playoff picture. Buffalo, the big win over Tampa last week, but Houston's won three of four. Their defense is number one in yards per game allowed, number one in points per game allowed. They're number one against fantasy quarterbacks, which Josh Allen is the entire team for the bills on offense. I don't know. Do you agree? Well, it depends on which bills show up here. So I went into last week talking about how.

I'm not sure that the bills are as great as we think, and then they went out and put 44 points up against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They heard you. But the week prior to that, they lost to the Miami Dolphins and they scored 13 points. They lost to the Atlanta Falcons and scored 14 points. It hasn't been a beautiful season for them. No, it's not been cruise control. Yeah, so the Atlanta game and the Miami game, both of those were on the road. the Tampa Bay game where they were awesome, the Kansas City game where they won against the Chiefs. Both of those were a home. So this game being in Houston to me, it makes an impact. I mean, you know, it's not as easy. It's not as black and white as that. But for a team that has been really good sometimes, really questionable sometimes, and it's all been at home versus on the road. And now they're playing a great defense on the road. It could be tough sledding. And honestly, their best pass catcher.

This season has been Dalton Kincaid. Who's out? And he's not going to play. So, yeah, I can see this game hitting the under and being like, ah, it's kind of ugly. Yeah, and I definitely see Davis Mills in that offense struggling against Buffalo. What's wild? Like I'm looking at the playoff picture, right? Number one, ceds Denver. Number two, seeds New England, leading the division. Number three is Indianapolis. Do you think those three teams? Or let's just go to four. Yeah, I was going to say. Let's put Pittsburgh. Do you think those teams want to play Kansas City or Buffalo? No. That just seems like you are setting. Or the Ravens. Or the Ravens. I mean, you'll be at home. You'll be at home for your one game. The AFC was so much more dominant than the NFC coming into this season because it just seemed like the NFC is like, okay, you got to maybe the Eagles will be really good. Maybe the lions will do it again, but on the on the

I mean, you've got Baltimore's guaranteed, Buffalo is guaranteed, Kansas City's guaranteed. Those three teams are, we don't know the order, one, two, and three seed, but they are the top three seeds. And now none of them are in the top four. Yeah, Kansas City, Baltimore, out of the playoffs right now. Crazy. So, no, if I was, if I was New England coming off a real sweet redemption season with Drake May, and I'm at home and I have to face Kansas City or Baltimore or Buffalo, I would feel pretty bad about that. You're going to want that by. You want that one seat. Yes, you do. You don't want to get bounced. But from a fantasy perspective, it's actually pretty simple because you're not benching Allen or Cook no matter what you think about the defensive situation. Correct. And you're not starting anyone else. No. And then on the other side, Nico is a lock. And then you could look at Woody Marks and look at the utilization and probably start him and say, look, Sean Tucker succeeded against this Buffalo defense last week. Marks is getting enough work. Can catch the ball.

To me, I wouldn't sit him down. I almost said put him down. I wouldn't do that either. Yeah, I wouldn't put him down. That's illegal. Right. Even with... We don't support that. Yeah, no. We're anti-murder podcast. We always happen. Always will be. Doesn't matter. I went and I rewatched every Woody Mark's attempt of the last two weeks this week. And I think he is slightly above average. The problem was that the defense... is not concerned with this passing game very much. And so there weren't a lot of holes open up for him. Almost everything was an inside run. And it was just kind of ho-hum. I think you can start him. I think he gets more than 15 carries in this game. I'm just doubtful that anything great happening. He's above the, he's above the Bam Knight tier, the Michael Carter tier. He's above the Tajay Spears tier. Yes. Okay. So otherwise, I mean, you could definitely shoot your shot, I think.

With Dalton Schultz, because he's been top 10 in 405 weeks, if you're playing roulette at tight end, you are facing a Buffalo defense that has been on the year. They're awesome. They, depending on which metrics you're looking at. Yeah, they don't give up a lot of points to tight in. So I don't love Dalton Schultz in this. And there are some guys that are on most of the way. Like you play Juan Johnson? I would definitely play Joanne Johnson over him. And the other name I'll throw out. Noah Fant? My start of the week. Yeah, I would play Noah Fant. I would play Hunter Henry, who has an awesome match. My start of the week? He's my start of the week. He's already in there, bro. You can't have them. Okay. Yeah, I don't want him. He's yours. Good. But.

Yeah, it should be, maybe we'll get pleasantly surprised, right? We think we're going to have a shootout with Timber and that they get shut down by the Raiders. So maybe we'll get some excitement. Obviously, Nico Collins can get some stuff done in the passing game against Buffalo and maybe Woody Marks gets it going. Buffalo just, they're giving up 32 fantasy points to the running back position, a game over the last six weeks. Yeah. So it's very run-funnel OLA defense right there. Yeah. Anything else from this game you want to talk about? Any other players? Please no. Please no. Yeah, you're not messing with Shakir, who's also not practicing after a negative three-yard game. And Tyrell Shavers not making it. You're getting your razor out, going Shavers. Oh, I get it. Yeah, my dynasty team probably should. He's probably out there. But, yeah, I'm not taking a shot on that. So you ready? Who's doing the mailbag drop today? Who deserves it from the deucers? The deucers? We know who deserves it from the deusers. Do we?

Yeah, it's the Falcon. Why? Because it'd be the best. Yeah, he's been sick. And this is how you get better. Clear your throat? Yeah. Deep voice. All right. Why not? He loves it. All right. He's clean. Oh, you ready over there? Here we go. I think so. It's going to be bad. Mailbag. Mail bag. Presented by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. I think you played it a little safe. Try not to yell. But, you know, you didn't break any equipment. Very loud. The beginning was worse than the end. It wasn't that bad. It wasn't that good. No. But good job. I'm proud of you. No. Into the mailbag we go. If you have a question for the show, go to the website the fantasy footballers.com. Click that, submit a question button. You can also dial our voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. Falcons is going to take off every Wednesday show that Mike misses forever.