not go higher than that. I would say the top of the third, back of the second. That's where I think he'll actually go. And would you be willing to draft him in the third?
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - ADP Price Check, Fantasy News, Mailbag
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - ADP Price Check, Fantasy News, Mailbag
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145 passagesI would 100. If nothing changed in the backfield, yes. I would take him in the third, and I would love it. I mean, that would be one of the best picks you can get. He would be the number one guy for an offense. What we know about Doug Peterson is that he's had a top running offense every single year he's been the offensive coordinator, led the league in rushing touchdowns last year, despite losing Jamal Charles. And so he's going to institute that type of a game.
uh for philly also got no choice with the quarterback situation right and and with the running back situation very few guys behind him kenyon barner yeah i i agree with you guys i've i've professed my love for ryan matthews many a times you've wrote you've wrote him many letters many why doesn't he come on the show i wish this is a public i wish this is a public invitation to ryan matthews if you want to come on the show
Hang out with us. Talk about Philadelphia and the change in the coach and should have your opportunity there. We'd love to have you on the show. I love Ryan Matthews so much. That's the end of the story. For my fantasy team, I would be perfectly happy going wide receiver, wide receiver, and having Ryan Matthews as my running back one. I believe in the opportunity that much. You better believe in the collarbones too. Can the bones hold up?
Maybe. That remains to be seen. All right. Next on the list, he is, say, the other half of a newly formed dynamic duo up in Seattle. We're talking, of course, about the rookie sensation that is Tyler Lockett, who really did not do a whole lot for the first half of the season, but he eventually earned his way into more playing time, earned some more trust, and had a pretty strong...
Real production and fantasy output for the second half. So where is Tyler Lockett going in drafts? I'm a big fan of Tyler Lockett, the player. I think that he's going in the eighth round. That's where I think he's going right now. Tyler Lockett is probably going in the ninth round. So I'm going to go nine. Tyler Lockett is going at the back of the seventh round. Wow. Jason is getting his behind torched.
And the ADP price check challenge. I think I can just give people too much credit. They would draft like I would. Yeah, if everybody was like you, you'd get this, you'd nail this thing, five to two. All right, so he's going back at the seven. Did you just move up there? I believe he has just moved up there. So he's climbing. That makes sense. I think the gap between him and Baldwin is going to start to close a little bit because it should. In my opinion, I would still take Lockett over Baldwin and their current values and where they're at. I think, I think...
One more offseason with Russell Wilson for Tyler Lockett. The kind of kid he is, the kind of player he is. He's every bit as valuable in the Red Zone as Baldwin is if he just learns the system. So I think he's the better value. And see, that's where I disagree with you is the Red Zone. I understand. The Red Zone to me is where Doug Baldwin will be utilized and featured in the Red Zone. And I don't believe Tyler Lockett will be.
featured in the red zone to the same degree of Doug Baldwin. But I'm curious because that was so much higher than where I think he should go, tell me some of the wide receivers that are around Lockett there. I want to see if... If you take him or you take somebody else? Yeah. I'm pulling him up as... Because I'm not anti-Tyler Lockett. Sorry, so Tyler Lockett... You're wearing an anti-Tyler Lockett T-shirt right now. Tyler Lockett. So you want the guys who are going in front of him? Sure, in front, behind. All right, so we got...
Steve Smith is still in here. People are still hoping that he comes back. No way. Kevin White. John Brown, Devante Parker, Eric Decker. You just named four guys that I love. And I would absolutely love to have ahead of Tyler Lockett. Those aren't even in this. All of them? I would not take all those names. I would not take. I would take Tyler Lockett over Kevin White. Oh, I would take Kevin White over. There you go.
We'll put that on that. Based on his long history of success. That is very interesting. Okay, well, that's good. You want a water bet? Tyler, I do want a water. This has got out of control. And Kevin White? Yes. Yes. Oh, the drop. Do it. No, no, no. I'm just thinking about it. Oh. Water bet. So we have an official water bed of Kevin White versus Tyler. I'm going to get a locket and put Tyler Locket in my locket and wear it around my neck to remind me of how I'm going to defeat you this year. And then while you're sleeping, I'm going to take.
that Lockett, and I'm going to switch the picture to Kevin White, and at the end of the year, when you open it to muse with Tyler Lockett and cry tears on him and what Kevin White did, you'll open it, and Kevin White will be staring back with his beautiful smile. All right, well, here's guys going behind Tyler Lockett. So you're making the move. By the way, I would take Decker over Tyler Lockett. Okay. And these are guys where you are making a choice you want Lockett in front of these guys. So Dante Moncrief, Deshawn Jackson, Michael Crabtree, and Doriel Green Beckham.
I would take Lockett over all those guys except for maybe D-Jex. I would take Moncrief and D-Jex ahead of Locker. That's fine. I'm with Jason on there. I would take those two guys. But I will say this. If that's kind of where the breakdown goes, then I don't see Lockett as a ninth-round pick. He's probably deserving to be a little bit lower than he is now, but not. Public invitation to Tyler Lockett to come on. What are we doing? I want my guy on here, too. Apparently Lockett's one of my guys to go with...
Who's the other guy that I have this off-season? What, Agilor? No, not Aguilar. Oh, I love. T.J. Yeldon. Oh, yeah. Yeldon is your guy for sure. I hope people think that Aglore is really your guy. No, they don't think Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford is. All right. We're going to finish it up here with a man who Jason has a couple of choice words for him. Oh, he stinks. And he says he stinks. This is great.
And, but on top of, he, look, he stunk last year. However, he is still technically the third wide receiver for the Green Bay Packers, a very high-powered offense, usually not so much last year, but we've seen Green Bay sustain fantasy production.
for three wide receivers in the past. When they had a guy like Jordy Nelson there, who was an actual one, then the guy's behind can get production. Of course, I'm talking about Devante Adams. He stinks. Now, real quick, because what I care about is the game. Is this worth five times of points on this last one? Nope. All right, then how many rounds does this data go? Because I'm going to go however many rounds plus one.
Okay. No, I would say he's probably going in the ninth round. I'll go deeper, I think 11th round. He is the last registered wide receiver in this data. Good. He is going at the back of the 14th round. Yeah. Devante Adams. I wouldn't touch him with the 10-foot pole. Really? Because I don't care. What does a comeback year even mean for Devante Adams?
You've got Jordy Nelson. The opportunity doesn't get better than the last year. I think you're hoping that what you get is James Jones from a couple years ago. That's exactly why I brought him up. He's not James. He's not big enough to go be that red zone throw it up to him. He blew so many important plays. It's over for him. Completely agree. I mean, Devante Adams. I'm going to give you three points for agreeing with me. Thank you. Devante Adams is not good enough there. And what you're going to see with Aaron Rogers is.
He likes going to the guys that are good, and he will start final. Oh, he'll get catches because he's settled into this comfy little three, you know, the three four spot where he can just come in and make a couple non-important plays. Aberdears, Aberdeers. I say that we're going to, these are, we're getting a little hot takey here, but so if Adams is not the three, who is the three? He's the three. Okay, so I just don't like him. For me, he is. Jason, has Adams been demoted? I do you send him to the verge. I believe that Devante Adams is.
probably going to be the three. I hope that Aberdehras can beat him out in that third role by the mid-season. Now, you like Ty Montgomery too, though, right? I do, but I worry a little bit about his health. He had that ankle that has taken a bizarrely long time to heal. He's still not back to full strength. Like a Sephirian Jenkins? Like a perimen? Yeah, more like a perimen. And so I'm kind of...
I did like him, but now Aberderas to me looks like the guy. If I'm in a dynasty league, I've talked about this with Mike. Aberderas is one of my targets. All right. Final score was. The Foot Clan wants to know what this guy has to say sometimes. No, they don't. Yeah, they do. Now you know what I feel like. Yeah, well, I feel like you got to move on before you need to talk. No, no, no. Well, I would have moved this on, but I'm asserting myself. And I am of the opinion. Devante Adams is not the three. And I am on Team Janice to be the third wide receiver.
It's funny because there are a lot of different opinions about that second-tier guy in Green Bay. Well, I think whoever is the three will have fantasy relevance now that the team is back to full strength. And we will find out. Let's get into the mailbag. Mailbag. Mailbag, yeah!
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Let's go to... Did you want me to parse that one a little bit more? Well, these are all very long. Catfist 7 in Ohio down there at the bottom. I've been hearing a lot of talk about this zero running back theory. I was wondering what your thoughts are on the theory. Thanks again for all the knowledge. This is a PBR 10 team league. What are your thoughts on 0RB, Mike? Sure. It depends on your team or the makeup.
of your league like how many players are you starting you're in a ppr so that's a good start uh for it to really succeed i mean the there's actually a really great breakdown on the new fantasy land pod if you want to check it out but if you have ppr and you can play you know three four wide receivers then
I'm on board with it in that format that if you can load up with super studs there and then you just play the variance, you play that there's these pass catching running backs that you can plug in and find or these handcuffs that you can acquire, then I am completely on board with it. If the...
scoring setting and the league the active roster is right well for this it's a 10 team league and so i would lean away from it a little bit more in a 10 team league just because what you're going to have is you're going to have every roster with a bunch of absolute studs and your late flyers aren't going to compete i don't believe as well with the teams that have solid running back solid wide receivers solid every position
You know, when you're in a deeper league, and like you said, more wide receivers, so it depends on how many people you're starting. Then you can use that strategy. This is a good year for it. I will say that. Last year was probably the best year that we've seen for it in forever. I'm just not one to kind of have a rigid, you know, unless it's a peripheral league that I'm trying to test something on. I don't really want to go in and say, okay, I'm going to do, you know, wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver.
And then I'm going to draft my running back in this exact round. The interesting thing for me is what if you end up in a draft where, I mean, everyone's taking a wide receiver? Let's say eight of those first 10 picks are wide receivers. So, I mean, you're now down into the second tier of wide receivers while you have the prime, primo, top tier running back sitting there looking at you.
Could you pass on them for a second tier wide receiver? I don't know that I can. You'd have to if you locked yourself in. Exactly. That's why you don't lock yourself in. Take the best player there. Brian and Irvine, California, what lottery ticket guys are you looking at? Sammy Coates has been mine in the last few times. He's used FantasyDraftWizard.com. He said thanks again for the tip on that site. Yeah, we like that. Yeah, yeah. I feel good about Sammy Coates, but you guys probably have some other or better suggestions for kind of...
