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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - ADP Price Check, Fantasy News, Mailbag

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In retrospect, when you look at it, that's an unbelievable season of what he got done. Let me hijack the segment for one second because I can't help myself. Emmanuel Sanders at the back of the fifth or Marvin Jones in the ninth. Because you just said Sanders in an okay year is over 1,000 yards. That's something Marvin Jones has never done. Right. Yeah, you're talking about four rounds. Proven production.

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going, but the team is either Paxton, Lynch, or Mark Sanchez. Yeah, I would take. Oh, give me Jones. I would take Jones for value there. I like the offense better as far as for wide receivers. He could be, I mean, you're talking about the number two for each guy. I would much rather have Matthew Stafford throwing the ball than whoever it's going to be for Denver. All right. All right. Let's keep this wide receiver two train chugging along. Oh. Is Amir Abdullah here? Amir Abdullah is not a wide receiver too. He is a running back 15.

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because he was really bad. Yeah. So who do we have? We're talking about a man who had double-digit touchdowns. He just signed himself a very lucrative contract, which I love. Especially considering that this man was undrafted. He was an undrafted free agent. Of course, I'm talking about Mr. Allen Hearns in Jacksonville. Where is he being drafted? Alan Hurons sure grew on a lot of people last year.

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Well, 10 touchdowns will do that. Yeah, I mean, he was somebody who you started to be able to rely on week in and week out, especially during the beginning and middle part of the season. I'm going to predict 6th round. Sixth round. Jason, you're on the clock. Man, that sounds like a really good prediction here. Over 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns. I will say this. I think he would go behind Emmanuel Sanders. So if Emmanuel Sanders is 512.

27:23 ↗

Then I would go to the sixth since Andy's already there. So then we need to split the... Yeah, I need to hear a 6. I will go 6.8. I'm going to go 6.7. Jason is on the board. Yes. Because...

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I should actually retract your point because Alan Hurds is being drafted in front of Emmanuel Sergish. Oh, all right. Oh, okay. I still get the point. He is going out. I was really helping you. He's in the sixth round. He is averaging fifth round seventh pick. So right around Sanders. A wide receiver two on his team. But like I said, over 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns. But when you look at the statistics of how many touchdowns, Bortles was throwing when the team was down and down a lot, I mean.

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Ultimate garbage time last year for Blake Bortles. Can you count on Alan Hearns moving forward? A little bit, but not. A little bit. Yeah, well, that's the truth. I think Alan Hearns is going to be a serviceable wide receiver this year. They paid him money. They're keeping him in that role. But will he get 10 touchdowns this year? No, probably not. He might.

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He's still a very talented guy who has the trust of Bortals. So I could see him getting seven or eight touchdowns and keeping up the same amount of receptions and yards. But I see a slight regression from last year for him. And so I would say he is not the best value ahead of, like we just said, ahead of Emmanuel Sanders. I would rather have Emmanuel Sanders than Alan Hurons on my team.

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Alan Hearns had 16.1 yards per catch compared to his counterpart, Alan Robinson, 17 and a half. He was at 1,000 yards where Alan Robinson had 1,400 yards. Do you like the value for Alan Robinson in the first more than Hearns here? Well, and the actual truth is Alan Robinson has now slipped back into the second round currently. So if you're talking about Alan Robinson and the second. Yeah, I take Alan Robinson. Alan Robinson in the second every day.

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Over hernes. All right. Who's next? All right, let's move. Let's keep it rolling. Two to one. Keep it rolling here. And we are going to go to, I'm picking off my list. Who do I want to go to? All right. We're going to go to. Who could have been the go-to receiver last year for the new rookie? The new rookie in Tennessee, he needed a target. And we're not talking about Delaney Walker. We're talking about a wide receiver. And he had his weeks, but then he got hurt. Kendall Wright.

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Kendall Wright, where is he being drafted? Man, I wish you were picking first here, Andy, because I would take the over on whatever you pick by one spot. So it's a matter of how far back. I think that he is not shiny. People don't like Kindle Wright. They want Doriel Green Beckham. They like other options there other than Kindle Wright. So I'm going to say Kindle Wright is going to be in the 11th

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round. I'll take the 12th round. Kendall is way past that. Kendall Wright is going at the back of the 13th round. I gave it to you, Andy. In 10 games, Kendall Wright was able to scrounge up 36 receptions for just over 400 yards and three touchdowns. Now, Kendall Wright is interesting to me. He's...

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Now we're coming off a second year of being very inconsistent after his kind of his breakout year. Yeah, he had 94 receptions back in 2013. 94, almost 1,100 yards. So people were expecting big things, and it still has not happened. So you're telling me I can get him in the 13th round? I can tell you. That's what I'm telling you. When I'm on the board in the 13th round, I'm going to pass. Really? Yeah, I'm going to pass. Because like Andy just brought up, the offense for Tennessee is not going to produce a lot of...

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passing weapons. And so you've got Delaney Walker. You've got Doriel Green Beckham. You've got Rashad Matthews that just came in. You've got Kindle Wright. Who's it going to be? Probably no one. No, I'm saying it's probably going to be spread around to everyone. So Doriel Green Beckham here probably is the best red zone target. So his fantasy production at the end of the year might be highest. But I just don't want to put chips on a low output.

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spread the ball around type of offense. Kendall Wright at this point is a guy who, if I'm an NFL team, I love having him on my team. He's a gamer. He's a great player, former first-round pick. He's only 26 years old. But in his career, he has 15 touchdowns, and that's four seasons. He's not going to score the ball. And so then you're just relying on, can he summon up a 94 reception season again and give you kind of an okay week? I mean, a game, and it's not going to happen. Jason's right. Richard Matthews, Green Beckham, Walker,

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Out of the backfield, you'll have a lot of receptions for DeMarco Murray and Wright. I think Wright will contribute. I think it will give you okay games. I think in a full PPR, he's worth a flyer late, but that's about it. Yeah, give me Ruben Randall, who's probably going past that. Just to see what you have on the outside in Philly. When I'm drafting in the 13th round plus, I'm looking for high upside guys. Kendall Wright's upside is that, yeah, he gets 90 receptions for...

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you know, 910 yards and one touchdown. Okay. I think, right, if you're in a PPR, is okay to throw a dart at him. Right. If I'm in a standard league at all, no, I'll pass. I'll find somebody else who I want to take a fire on. He's got a nice last name, though. What's the best? All right. We built airplanes. All right, we're going to do a... We built airplanes. We'll start. Your brothers did. Yes. We're going to check in on a running back here. All right.

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a running back that... I hope it's Michael Turner. A running back that may or may not do something for your team. If he has given the opportunity, when he was given the opportunity, he was the top five running back. But that was only because he inherited the opportunity because of injury. I know who he is. We're talking about the ultimate handcuff from last year, De Angela Williams. Oh, yeah, you don't get much better than...

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DeAngelo Williams is a handcuff. Price? Hand! Yeah. Give me that price check on DeAngelo Williams. I think he's probably going too high. I'm going to predict his seventh round. Oh, I'll definitely take eighth there. He is going. You got me in the middle of drink there, fellas. I thought there'll be some banter. He is going at currently the eighth pick of the eighth round. Two to two tie game. The game is tied. Nope, because I won last round, so it's three to one. Really? Yeah. The one that you screamed, I gave it to you?

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I get credit for that one. Oh, sure. So that's three to two. Three to two. All right. So when you clenched your fist and you went, yeah, tie game, you were wrong. Just wait until the next one, all right? Yeah, okay. All right. That was a close one, though. Let's talk about DeAngelo Williams, a running back who will, it's very, it's possible in the realm of possibilities that DeAngelo Williams sits on your bench for a whole year and does nothing but clog up a spot.

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and give you insurance. A guy you have to take in at least the eighth round right now. On the other hand, he's a guy who led the league in touchdowns last year, which is an incredible stat. That's a valid point. We have a guy in our league who every week on Sunday morning would drop somebody off his roster and pick up DeAngelo Williams just for the weekend, just in case. And then it happened. And then it happened. And you had the best running back in the league for a few weeks. I think the ADP of him in the eighth round is great.

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Because it's not something where... It's just fine, yeah. It's for the guy that drafted Levy on Bell. If you drafted Levy on Bell, reach... I think the eighth is a reach for the type of player you're getting in DeAngelo Williams, but you're locking up, you know, a sure-fired number one running back spot for, you know, let's say you've got a two running back and maybe a flex. Well, you've taken half of your running back spots out.

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By doing that. Now you just have to find it at the most one running back through streaming or through other means if necessary. So I think that the ADP is fine there. And if you're a Lev Bell owner, let's say you're not. You are not a Levian bell owner. Would you be willing to take that gamble to grab DeAngel Williams in the 8th to either have as a chip on your bench or as maybe a bargaining chip for the actual Lev Bell owner?

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I probably wouldn't, but that depends on who's on the board. So why don't you tell us a couple of running backs that are going right near DeAngelo Williams, and let's pretend we don't have Levy on Bell on our team and see whether or not we think the upside of one guy or the other is better. All right, so these are the guys who are going just behind DeAngelo Williams, Rashad Jennings, Isaiah Crowell, Tevin Coleman, and Legerrett Blunt. I would take...

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All of those guys ahead of DeAngelo Williams. You would take Coleman over DeAngelo? Yes. I would take all but blunt over DeAngelo. I think that what you're looking at there is you're looking at opportunity that doesn't need an injury to be big. Isaiah Crowell could be great this year with Hugh Jackman, Jackson. With Wolverine. We had that before. How many times that will happen? Oh, man, that's going to keep happening. I can tell you that right now. It's Hugh Jackman.

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Anyways, LaGarrett Blunt, if it's not a best ball league where you don't have to pick the week, I can't stand having them on my team. So at that point, I would go DeAngelo Williams, maybe head of him. But yeah, most of those guys, if I don't have Led Bell, I'm looking to give me an option that doesn't require an injury to be productive. Well, and let me be on. DeWill is probably the best in the league, but he's 33. He's not like a spring chicken here. He's a backup for a reason.

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It could have been a bit of an outlier coming back from the great performance last year. I'm certainly not going to want to spin that pick with those other guys on the board, have him sit on my bench and just, like, hope for an injury. That's just not how I play fantasy football. All right. We're going to stick with the running backs here. A guy who, you know that I love him, but does the rest of the world love him, and that is Ryan Matthews up in Philadelphia. Whose turn is it to pick first? I think it's Jason's.

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I don't remember. I think it is mine. Okay. Well, then you go, Jay. So I don't remember. Oh, man. Ryan Matthews, he's climbing for sure. I wonder how high he's got. I'm going to think, ah, he's either back of the third or early fourth. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. He's frozen. Three? Frozen with fear. Nine. Three nine. Okay. I'll go four one.

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I don't know why I didn't just go 310. But yeah, I'll go 4-1. That's how the game. Out of integrity. I'll go out of integrity. Whenever we have these games, they devolve. Jason does it. He wants the competition. I want to be accurate. I think 4-1. I think right at the beginning of the fourth round. And you both are still too early because he is currently going in the middle of the fifth round. But that is a win for Andy. That's not a realistic average drop position. That's where he is right now. But Jason is right.

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So let's just talk about, where has he gone in the past? Where does the climb stop? Where is Ryan Matthews going to be when draft season opens up? Top of the third. If he, if nothing changes. Top of the third to you. Top of the third. If nothing changes in Philadelphia, I mean, how does he not climb that high? Right. I mean, you had T.J. Yeldon going in the second round last year because of opportunity in Jacksonville. I don't know how in the world you would let Ryan Matthews, who was so productive last year in his limited work.

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