Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - ADP Price Check, Fantasy News, Mailbag

to do very well. I like the fact that he's a flyer. If the beginning of the year it looks like he's great, I'll pick him up off of waivers. But I don't expect it, and here's why. Because going back looking at Adam Gays over the last few years, when Julius Thomas was great, he had a...

perfect Hall of Fame caliber Payton Manning throwing 55 touchdowns. And so, yeah, you had D.T. and you had Emmanuel Sanders. And then they got Julius Thomas involved. You can't throw 55 touchdowns without involving everybody out there who can catch the ball. And then last year, we saw, you know, Martellus. We've seen a couple years of Bennett. No, I know. Well, not with Gays. Oh, yeah. Right, right. Gase just went to Chicago this last year. Bennett was okay. And then Zach Miller was okay when Bennett went down. But, but, I mean, you lost Brandon Marshall.

And you also lost Alshon Jeffrey for part of the year, and you lost Kevin White. So it was kind of a necessity. I think that Devante Parker and Jarvis Landry will get the lion's share of work in the passing game. And I just don't think there's great chemistry there between Tanna Hill and Cameron. But it is worth looking at it. Yeah, I say I tend to agree, but don't be shocked at all. If Cameron has a great week one, I'm with Jason. I'm going to pick him up.

All right, Gary Barnage had sports hernia surgery this past week. He will miss the mandatory minicamp, but Hugh Jackson said that he will not miss training camp should be ready to go. Doug Peterson doesn't seem impressed with Jordan Matthews' ability on the outside, saying he is better off on the inside. You know what time it is. Ruben Randall! I don't know how the story isn't how sad Jordan Matthews really is, but...

Well, yeah, it's Jordan Matthews is a sad man, but I've got to move on from the sadness to the gladness, and that is me thinking about Ruben Randall. I can see the My Guys episode already, and your guy is Ruben Randall. We're not going that far yet, but somebody's got to play the outside.

For the Eagles. Randall is more than capable of putting up a wide receiver two year. I think you guys should have a perfect water bet here between Andy's beloved Nelson Aguilar and your ruse. We'll see. I don't think either of us know whether we would want to take that bet. That's a great question. I may swear off Philadelphia Eagle bets all year, however. Back to Adam Gays. I don't know why we didn't talk about this, too. He did say that he wanted all his running backs to play three downs.

Um, if they don't bring somebody in, this is good for Jada Jai. Yes. Okay. In an interview with Showtime Tuesday night, Marshawn Lynch confirmed that he has indeed retired. Yeah, it's sad. Mike said he was just sad for the NFL. It's kind of like when Farrs leaves. You just lose a character for the game. Yeah, it's Marshaun Lynch, I think. The NFL is better when Marshaun Lynch is playing, but he's done. You guys see he doesn't. He hasn't spent any of his money. Smart. Smart. He's going to say it's a wise man. His friend came out and said that even when they're at the like,

You know, at a restaurant, and the guy's like, how much is this? He's like $55, Marshal's like, no, no, no, no. Unless he'll get something for 20, you know, or 25. Like, he's a pretty frugal guy. That's smart, man. He does, and he wants to do a lot in his community back home where he grew up. Right. I think it was Oakland. And so now he can. So Free Agent Joyc Bell has come out and let the world know he has at least two contract offers on this. I wrote a thing. Right.

No, I wrote them in. Did you not see the check? Yeah, I saw the notes you put in here. You said it was, one was for Target and one was for Pizza Hut. Oh, man. Which would you take, Target or Pizza Hut? Target? Well, if your joint, if your joint bell, you take Pizza Hut. First job after the NFL, I go Pizza Hut. No, what, dude, Target? You got to get that Target discount.

I'm all about it. When we go to Target to pick up stuff for the studio or the show, Mike is the one who is obsessively... The cartwheel! He's Marchion lynching on his phone trying to get an internet connection to save four cents on a, you know, a can of LaCroix or something. Hey, when we have those four cents in the bank account?

You can thank me. Let me ask you guys. And then he goes and spins it all on pristineauction.com. You mind your business. Do you guys actually think that Joyke Bell has two teams or multiple teams interested in him? Sure. No. I actually don't. When I saw that news pass, I was like, yeah, right. No, he does because guys like Robert Turbin have jobs. And Joyke Bell is 29 years old. So he's not out of it. You know, he's...

He wasn't healthy and wasn't good, but neither was any. No running back on the Lions were good. They'll give him a shot somewhere. All right. He'll come into Miami and ruin that situation. Oh, no. All right. Last bit of news. Michael Thomas from the Saints. There was some news last week. He had earned the trust of Drew Brees in some special way. It was going to be the big slot. The big slot. But at least one of the reporters there in New Orleans thinks he won't beat out Brandon Coleman, who I've said it before.

Brandon Coleman just kind of finds his way into the hearts of the coaching staff or Drew Breeze. I don't know why. I don't think Coleman has much in him, but it just shows that Michael Thomas is a work in progress as a rookie. You don't know what you're going to get from him. I think one of those two guys will ultimately win out. I don't think they're going to...

you know, really eat into each other, swip swap. Drew Breeze wants to find a guy and build a rapport with him. He saw it with Willie Sneed. And I think that by the time training camp is over and we get into preseason, you know, I'm going to be watching game three of preseason to see which one of those two guys is predominantly taking the snaps in that big slot role because I think one of those two guys will be valuable for fantasy.

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You better check yourself before you wreck yourself. All right. I feel kind of weird at a place here starting everything off. We are doing an ADP price check. These are from Fantasy Football Calculator.com. I took standard. Standard ADP. And I just found a couple guys who... Now, that's the average draft position. Is that correct? That is ADP stands for the average draft position. And so I grabbed a couple guys where I thought their price point was...

interesting, maybe too high, maybe too low, and they have interesting players around them as well. So we're going to start off this conversation with the newly signed counterpoint there up in Detroit. We're talking about Marvin...

Jones for the Detroit Lions who Andy seems to be rising a little bit on that offense as a whole. Yeah, we talked a lot about Matt Stafford. So where do you think Marvin Jones is currently going? Oh, this is fun. This is fun. I got to give it some thought here. So we'll take turns going first, I think. Sure, sure. We want to do that. So I'm going to say that I think Marvin Jones is going in the, I'm going to say he's going in the eighth round. Eighth round. Jason, do you know what I'm going to say the seventh round?

Okay, Jason said the seventh round. He is actually going at the back of the ninth. I like that value. There's nothing to dislike about that. You get a guy who's coming into a new system could possibly be the one. He could be huge. And definitely a red zone threat. And you get them at a place where you're not risking very much. I mean, I like that value a lot more than I do settling into somebody in a round or two earlier that you know has a really defined low ceiling role.

in an offense. Both of the wide receivers there provide a good value. I actually really like Golden Tate this year. I think he's, in my opinion, a lock for 100 catches, which is great. And he's going near the back of the fourth. But like you said, Andy, we don't know yet that split between Marvin Jones and Golden Tate. And if it so turns out that Marvin Jones is used like a one there or he's even anywhere close, getting him at the back of the ninth, that provides a, I mean, he has to be.

a higher upside guy than guys in the night. Yeah, the guy's going just in front of him currently. Stefan Diggs. Jimmy Jones. Travis Benjamin. Jones. Marcus Wheaton. Jones. That's close, but Jones. Doreo Green Beckham. I would take Jones. I would as well. And so I wanted to do you know what's funny about those guys that you just mentioned? Stefan Diggs and Doree Green Beckham specifically just totally capped offenses. Right. Just offenses that you cannot see volume going to those wide receivers.

So I wanted to cap off that question with. So you got Marvin Jones in the back of the ninth or Golden Tate, like Jason said. He's at the back of the fourth. We're in standard. Who would you rather draft? Standard League? Yeah. Ah, gosh. Standard League, the value is better on Jones because I think Jones is a great, big-bodied red zone threat. I will take Jones in a standard league with that value. Honest to goodness, I would like both of them. I don't feel like...

I don't feel like you have to pick one and say the other is a guy you avoid. I would look for both of them and see how my draft turns out. Yeah, I completely agree. I think that Marvin Jones at the back of the ninth would be. That's interesting. I think that's crazy that people are sleeping on him so much and just thinking that it's Golden Tate 100%. And we love Golden Tate. We all like him a lot. Especially in PPR League. But if it turned into a...

Not a 1-2 into like a 1-A-1B, which would you be shocked? Not at all, because nobody sees Golden Tate as one. I mean, they don't. Right. Golden Tate was, he's a 1-B type of guy. All right, we're going to move on to another wide receiver 2 on his team. And that is a man. He's got a new quarterback coming into town. He's got a fresh, fancy Super Bowl ring. Emmanuel Sanders. Oh, Manuel Sanders. Where is he being drafted?

Gross. I have thoughts on him too. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. All right. So Emmanuel Sanders, a guy who last year was drafted, pretty much as a wide receiver one or very high-end wide receiver two. Came off a career year. Now he has fallen from Grace, has no quarterback. I'm going to say he is being drafted in the seventh round. I don't think people have faded him that far. I'm going to predict that he's been taking, being taken in the fifth round.

He is being taken at 512, the back of the fifth round. Are we keeping score here? Because that's two to nothing. I can keep score. Are you got the score over there? Sure. Wait, wait, wait, wait, you get a point for the first one? Just because you were closer? That is, what, you have to predict the exact draft position? Well, I'm just saying you got the third round and you're right. Just because I'm closer.

I win because I won. If you want to change the scoring, then he would have gotten two points for that one because he got the round exactly right. No, my point was we both got the round wrong on the first one. But he was closer. All right, go on. I get it. But I'll take the point. You said you have an Emmanuel Sanders take. I want to hear this. Yeah, and I think the take is that I'm a little too low on Emmanuel Sanders. I mean, it's not a long story. That's the story is that he's a very talented guy.

He's been productive for years, and I think, you know, as long as the targets are there, he produces. So he's not anywhere near what he was when that offense was focused around the passing game. And, you know, you talked about the Peyton Manning miracle year of 55 were long departed. But he's 29 years old. He still gets loose, deep all the time, and they take deep shots to him, and he kind of comes down with everything. So I think, you know, I say all that, and then I think about him going 512.

I'd be excited to get him there. Yeah, he still had over 1,000 yards. You're talking 76 receptions over 11,100 yards, and six touchdowns. But Mike! Oh, geez. Yes, voice of public opinion. But Mike left, and now they've got a butt fumbler, and they've got a rookie. Peyton Manning was an abomination last year. You speak to my point that Sanders with garbage throwing him the football was over 1,100 yards, which...