Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Early Breakouts & Busts

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Coming to you from the fantasy jocks.com studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah, we're back. It's good to be back, America. It's good to be back. Thursday, June 8, 2017. No tacos today. I'm telling you right now, these are some of my favorite episodes. I'm excited. These are fun episodes.

Today we have early breakouts and busts on the show. Great quick question. Going to drop some knowledge on you. I'm excited, too, because we are bringing forth breakouts and bus from our own personal rankings, guys that we really like. Going to make the case on why we think they're going to break out, why we think they're going to fall short on the show today. Now, Jason, you're getting ready ahead of town. Is that correct?

Yes, yes, it is. A well-deserved vacation? Universal Studios. Oh, well-deserved, my friend. Maybe I'll see you there this weekend. You're not talking to us. I am not. No, I am not. I'm talking to the people. It's like the company credit card. I'm talking to the foot clan out there. All right, so that's on the show today. Quick question, though. Real quick, out of the gates. What player will you not own this year? So this could be based on ADP or just a lifelong hatred of a player. But...

Who are you not going to own this year based on average draft position? Somebody you just think is going to end up on zero of your rosters. I'll jump in here because people might think this is hot. Hot takes. And I'm saying Leonard Fernette will not be on any of my teams. And this is a matter of the ADP is rising, of course, since the draft. But it will continue to rise, in my opinion, to a place where I don't want to take the risk on this rookie running back.

on a bad team. Is he the pass catcher? I don't know. I'm Ron Burgundy? T.J. Eldon, the seventh most targeted running back last year. He had four targets fewer than Duke Johnson. He had as many receptions as LaShawn McCoy. T.J. Eldon is perfectly fine as a pass catcher. So will they completely abandon that? And I bring that up because...

Jacksonville is going to be in a lot of negative game scripts when it comes to a power runner like Leonard Fournett. So I just, I believe by the time his draft season, he's going to be presumably too much. A lot of negative game scripts. Historically. Yes. Hey, look. Maybe Jacksonville. Did you hear Tom Coughlin came out and said Blake Bortles, all the mechanics have been pretty much fixed? Oh, that's done deal. I take it all back.

I take it all back off of one statement. I move Bortles down a little bit in my rankings today. Because Coughlin said that? No, no, just based on. I don't believe you. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Coughlin said something positive and you love Tom Coughlin. How is Blake Bortle's not skyrocketed to top five? Look, the team's philosophy is going to change. I'm with Mike Clay on this. I'm with Mike Clay on this. They drafted four net for a reason.

They're going to transition this offense a little bit. I'm not as bullish on the garbage time, Blake Bortles, because I think they're going to try to slow the games down, less possessions, some defense. Yeah, we're all trying a lot of things this year. I'm trying to get in shape. Yeah, we see. Yeah, I understand the argument against four net. He'll certainly be on several of my fantasy teams just because, you know, every year there's on average over the last decade, one and a half rookie running backs that finish.

as an RB1. So I'm going to take the shot on the guy who goes forth overall and is going to be given the keys to the kingdom. The guy who will not end up on any of my fantasy teams. I have not seen this until now. And I'm not just talking about Brandon Marshall because I'm mostly in leagues with Andy. Stop it. Stop it. And he'll take him well before me. But no. I've moved him down to. That's good. The number two overall. No, my guy that I will not have on any of my teams is Doug Martin. Take that.

Dougie fresh. Yeah, that's just as offensive to me. Here's why I won't have Doug Martin on any of my rosters. I was blown away when I looked and saw that his average draft position is in the fourth round right now. Now, I expect it to drop. Fantasy football calculator, by the way. According to fantasy football calculator, I expect it to drop. But let's say it goes down a whole round and it's in the fifth.

You're talking about a bona fide starter. If you draft Doug Martin, I am saying I have to make the rest of my starters one round later because I'm taking a guy who's not playing for the first three weeks. Now I'm going to have to not only deal with those first three weeks and have lost my fourth or fifth round pick, but I'm also going to have to get another guy to kind of plug in for those few weeks and kind of change my strategy going later.

I'm just bypassing. You won't have lost the pick because you will get it back in week four. Sure. That's a lost pick. There are plenty of, if you draft Doug Martin in the fourth round and you lose those first three weeks and he comes back and he is rookie year Doug Martin.

you're probably going to be all right. Also, no, and two year ago, Doug Martin. But no, I understand it. But not all of the other years, Doug Martin. The other two, yes. If this was Levi-on-Bell, yeah, the other three. You're counting last year? Yeah. Why would you not count last year? He was hurt. That's a problem. He was heard those, yeah.

Okay. So I'm just saying... Let me get to the part where I agree with you. That's going to be a philosophy that I think is... All right. I will let you say that. Minnie subscribe to... I am okay taking Doug Martin and then grab Interns West or John Stewart or somebody later and having that... I mean, look, if he is a great value in the fifth round, I have vastly improved my team by week four. But I understand not wanting to do that for sure. For me, I... It's Tyreek Hill. Tyree Hill is a player I'm not going to own.

Which might seem surprising because I love Tyree. But Andy. Ah, voice of public opinion. But the thing is, is Jeremy Macklin just left. So he's the number one wide receiver. That's the only reason I won't own him. Right. Because his ADP right now is around guys like Michael Crabtree and Jarvis Landry. Crabtree. Oh, yeah. Demarius Thomas. Come on. We're better than this. Sammy Watkins. America. World. And it hasn't even. That's not even moved to where it's going to move. The Tyreek, the freak train. Yeah, it's leaving the station. It's going to.

The hype train is going to be third round. And you can get all those other guys at the top of the fourth. So why would I ever do that? I just don't see any reason why I would have him. I don't care if Andy Reid comes out and says he's the one. You guys both, when Jeremy Macklin went to Kansas City and we said he's the one, what was the retort? It's Kansas City. Who cares? I don't want the one for Kansas City and Alex Smith. Now, he's a great player.

in space, make a big play. He's going to have huge weeks. I just won't own him because I will have Demarius Thomas or Jarvis, Slandvir, Michael Crabtree. All right, that is it for the quick question. We're going to get into the news in a minute. On Twitter, you can find us at the FF Ballers.

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Mm-hmm. Where he just shouts freedom at the top of his lungs. Get me out of that dying O and 16. Yeah. And Jason's theory of the Jets are purposely trying to take. They're trying to lose. Confirmed. Yeah. It's not even a joke anymore. I was watching NFL network this morning. The roundtable was confirming the fact that this team is 100. How can you not? They're like, I hope the NFL is not becoming what the NBA is with Philadelphia.

where it's just like, hey, we need to go on 16. We have no veterans on the team anymore. This team is going to be a wreck. Todd Bulls cannot survive. Oh, poor Todd Bulls. He is gone. If Arians retires in a couple years, Todd Bulls will come back to Arizona. Mark my words. All right. Dennis Pitt has been released by the Ravens. This was a cap saving move. 2.5 million off of the cap with the release of Dennis Pitt. All but confirms what we know. The dislocation in the hip, his career is likely over. I believe it's also a due right.

moved by Dennis Pitta because by the Ravens you mean yeah by the rate by releasing him there's no situation where he's going to have to retire pay things back they're saying we appreciate you you you warrior did you see Calvin Johnson paid back a million bucks did he really for his retirement pay back the signing bonus well it's pretty cool the Ravens have done it right the lions have done it wrong

Well, no, the lines didn't do anything. They weren't going to release. They didn't ask for the money. How did they do it wrong? Oh, they didn't? No, no, no. Calvin volunteered a million dollars back. Well, because if you get signed to an extension, sure. Out of respect, he was basically saying, hey, I'm going to retire. I'm not going to take advantage of you signing me to that extension since I retired early. I appreciate the notion. I think that is an incredibly honorable thing. I would wish that I would do that myself. I know I wouldn't, though. I mean, Calvin's collected a few paycheck. You owe me a million. I would say, okay.