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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Listener Mailbag and Fantasy News

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for one of the best running backs in the game and a high-powered offense. So there's nothing wrong. I mean, he's no with Zeke Elliott. Yeah. You come on. I'm just kidding. You can't get enamored with draft position value over, hey, let's just take the guy that might be the best player in the league. Yeah, got to have a balance. So I think I'm going to go Levi-on-Bell and Jeremy Linkford. You know what we're going to do right now? Is Sammy Watkins your third? Oh, yeah. I didn't realize there were three. Sammy Watkins. That's gorgeous. Yeah, I love it.

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I love it. Because he, to me, is like the next clear-cut guy. Let's go back to back Canada here. Angelo in Toronto. Bonjour. I get to keep three of the following, Julio, David Johnson. And then, so those are his no-brainers. All right. So he's deciding between Amari Cooper, Jordan Reed, Lamar Miller, Calvin Benjamin, Travis Kelsey. He's leaning towards Amari. Yeah, that's where I would go with it as well. It would be between Amari and.

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We have to see where Lamar Miller ends up. But I'm going to take Amari. I'm going to take Amari here. I'm going Amari unless Lamar re-signs with Miami or goes to like Dallas or something, which I don't expect to happen. Yeah, I'm with you guys. Sean in Cincinnati, who should I keep pick four? Not sure of the penalty in the draft.

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Okay. All right. Well, neither are we. Eddie Lacey, Mark Ingram, Justin Fawcett, Tyler Eifert, Randall Cobb, Devante Parker, Tyler Lockett. Oh, my. It is a three wide receiver league with half a point per reception. Okay, so that changes it a little bit, or that factors in, I should say that's three. I'm going to lock in DeVante Parker, and I'm going to lock in Mark Ingram. I'm going to lock in Ingram. Ooh. And I'm probably going to go Lacey then, too. I can dig Parker. You would...

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Yeah, so you'd go Lacey over Lockett? Yep. For sure. I'm not going to load up on Lockett plus Parker in the variable category. Yeah. Yeah, I like that thinking. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. Wait, wait, wait. You like that? Over Randall Cobb? Yeah, that's what I was just thinking. I was, I was sitting. I somehow glossed over that. You know, I know the value is going to be different. But if you're telling me in a redraft league where we don't know the value.

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And sitting on that board, you're telling me if Randall Cobb and Devante Parker there in the whatever. You're taking Parker and like, wow. I'm going Eddie Lacey and Randall Cobb. This is not. Randall Cobb's not old. No, no, no, no. All I'm saying is this decision isn't like they're both on the board and I have to take Cobb at his value versus Parker as a steal later. This is straight up keeper decision. I need to put these two guys on my team.

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I want my shares in Devante Parker's future, and I think his presence is going to be pretty good, too. And Randall Cobb showed me that he got paid and that he wasn't an elite number one in all circumstances. I don't dislike Cobb at the right value, but I'm going to go with Parker very confidently. I'm going to go with Parker very confidently. Very confidently. I'm going to expect the Green Bay bounce back. I'm going, Mark Ingraham is clearly locked in.

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I think Lacey is locked in, and I'm going Cobb over parking. You're not going to believe. Jason has the Green Bay offense with four to five times the fantasy points they had last year, because Lacey has to go off next year. Cobb now has to go up. You're going to keep telling me how many guys, how many fanning's points do you think they're putting up? I think they're going to put up enough to have those two guys have decent years. What about Jordie Nelson?

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And him too. You're telling me. Jordan Nelson just makes everyone else go up. Yeah, exactly. You should hear him talk about Richard Rogers. He has him as number one next year. Wait, so wait, wait, two years ago, when Eddie Lacey was one of the best backs in the league and Randall Cobb was one of the best wide receivers in the league and Jordan Nelson was one of the best wide receivers in league, you tell me that can't happen even though it's already happened. Okay. Case close. I'm pretty sure they were both wide receiver ones. Aaron Rogers was the top two guy. Eddie Lacey was top five.

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I just want to hear the next guy that's going to be up there. All right, Kent. In Minnesota. So you guys disagreed the Parker Cobb. Well, that was like a, that's a, that's a, just saying they're on the same. You have taken a flamethrower to the studio with your hot take. I get the keeper. I get the keeper. I get the keeper. Bring the keeper. My team's going to be filled with Marcus Mariotta and Devonty Parker next thing. But I mean, you're talking about a fourth round pick versus a ninth round pick. No, I'm not. I'm talking about two keeper decisions. Sure, sure. But I'm saying you kind of are.

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No, there's no way that Parker's a ninth round pick next year. No, that's no way. Hooliganry. We need to be very careful. Hooliganry? Yeah. We need to be very careful with our ADP. Our ADP presumptions here. They're not true. As I said, Tim Tebow, in one of our leagues is he's currently being drafted 20th at the quarterback position for not in our leagues. No, I'm sorry, in one of our ADP sources, simply because of people having a little bit of fun. When you draft this early, you don't really care.

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Kent and Minnesota, what are your thoughts on pick trading in keeper leagues? Love it. My league is three keepers with no pick retention. Three keepers are rounds one through three picks. I like that. If another team needs a better third keeper, what pick should I be trading for and should I bundle my own pick with a player? So let me ask you guys so I understand this. Is he actually, everybody has to keep three keepers? It sounds like it. Okay, so it's very similar to the league we play. So, so.

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But it sounds like, to me, Kent would be trading a player that he himself would not be keeping. Correct. So he still has to keep three. So he's trading a fourth player over to another team to be kept. And what pick should you be trading for when you bundle it? I mean, that is an impossible question because it depends on who your fourth best guy is and what value he represents. Go for...

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The thing is, is in this situation, you have nothing to lose. You've got nothing to lose. If what you're saying is right about his league where he still gets to keep three, I mean, it's like the difference between not having a pick for free or having a pick for free. It's just the maximum that you can possibly get. The maximum pick swap, if you can get a 4-1 or the equivalent of that, then you do it. Aim for a 3 outright.

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Because people are so reluctant to trade their first and second, but as soon as you get to the third, they're like, yeah, that's kind of... Yeah, that's not bad. Well, and the reality is, you know, it's probably really worth it for them, too, if they don't have a keeper to do that. So, Ryan and Oakland, a question for two different leagues. Oh, come on, Ryan. Sneaky. All right, half, actually three quarters of a point, PPR. You can take, you can keep a player for two years, one round ahead of where they were drafted.

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Would you keep Gurley in the third or Jordy in the 14th? Oh, here you go, Mr. Gurley. And it's Gurley. Gurley, man. Gurley. Over Jordan? Are you kidding me? You don't want to see what Gurley can do in year two? You don't want the potential of that. What, Jordy's 31 this year? You're not going to take one more year of Gurley. He was a rookie, right? So you get to keep him for two years. Yeah, let me check my sources. He was a rookie. Yeah. You got it. You potentially have one more year of Gurley after this?

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Keeper-wise? Well, as a second and then a first. That's just fine, man. I'm not knocking you at all. It's just Jordy Nelson for free. Yeah, it's tempting to me to take Jordy. It really is. I'm going to go Gurley here. But yes, me as well. Way to drum it up there. Auction Keeper League, standard scoring $100 cap, keep up to five. Whoa! Well, let's do this quick, guys. Okay.

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Evans for 12 bucks, locket for four, Des for 22, Jordy for four, Kelvin for four, Gurley 21, Latavius for seven, Dion for four, for six. We can't do this one quick, can we? I'll do it quick. Gurley, Latavius, Jordi, Kelvin, Mike Evans. I don't know why he likes Latavis so much. I don't know. Mike Evans, yeah, I just did it. And not only did I do it, but I did it perfect. You and Latavius Murray. Dude, if they don't go and sign a Matt Forte or someone like that, Latavis Murray is going to have a.

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Fine and dandy great year. Like last year? Yeah. Four bucks. Yeah. I'm not going to get into it. We'll go with Jason's there for the sake of right now. Smart. Han Yolo. Keep three. O'DB. O'Dell Beckham Jr. It's Alan Robinson, Kelvin Benjamin, and Josh Gordon. Keep three. Full point PPR. Get rid of one. I'm dumping Kelvin. Me too. I'm riding the snake. I'm riding the snake with Josh Gordon. What are you doing?

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Ride the snake. Oh, do I still have that? Ride the snake. Scott in Farmington, Minnesota. Guys love the show. Been listening since last summer. Your advice got me two titles. Yeah. And into the finals in four or five leagues. That's pretty cool. Nice. I always like to hear that. Here's the question. He's used both NFL.com and ESPN.com for his leagues. He tends to like ESPN for the flexibility. However...

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His buddy's been looking for a website that allows even more flexibility than ESPN currently allows, i.e. draft pick trading midseason, more scoring flexibility. We tend to run Keeper, two or three leagues. Any help would be greatly appreciated. We answered this question on... Our Patreon mailbag. Yeah, on the Join the Foot Mailbag episode. And they ask the same type of thing. And we run leagues very similar to this. And what we actually have to do...

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There are some other third party smaller sites out there, but we don't really use any of those. We use our own basically spreadsheet that we use to facilitate all of our off-season trading and keeper logging and things like that. And so that's something that I'm happy to make available to our listeners.

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It's kind of something that lets you quickly plug and play names. You can run mock drafts through it, and it helps you keep track of trades as well. And then we run the league through ESPN. Yes. Yeah, we've used all the big scoring keeper sites, you know, the Yahoo NFL ESPN. ESPN is still my favorite. It seems the most intuitive to me. Now, each site has things that I don't like about it, but ESPN.

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is my favorite and if i were you scott i would go check out my fantasy league dot com i can't speak that i'm personally i've used it for a ton of stuff i've just done a couple mock drafts and mfl tens people they're fun get ready uh if you don't know what that is go check it out but they're a uh a newer site where you can play on and they're

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all about being very customizable and flexible. So you may want to check them out. They might have a solution for you. Yeah, that is the one that came to mind. And it's always hard because if you find a flexible one, sometimes you still get put in a box a little bit because there's like one rule that you want. And then you're doing it manually anyway. That's where I've always run into is it's hard to find it to be perfect. Simeon and Spencer, Wisconsin, have you ever experienced an Odell Beckham Jr.? Wait, that sentence keeps going.

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Have you ever experienced... Have you ever experienced an Odell Beckham junior-like draft pick? So have you picked someone that you were, that you predicted to be good, drafted him in the later ends, and he blew you away? So he just wants to know other situations that we've done that? Yeah, I guess. Sure. I will use any opportunity afforded me to talk about Aryan Fosser. Oh man, that was, that was beautiful because in that draft me and you... I want to tell that story. All right.

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Well, not that you can't tell the story. We were battling over who, we both believed that a running back who was not the starter for the Houston Texans that year would be the guy, and you were all over Arian Foster, and you were the only one. And the best part, I was, and I drafted him in the seventh or eighth round. So everyone else was on Ben Tate? Everyone else was on Ben Tate, but the irony and what makes the story great is that we held the draft on the last preseason game.

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And that preseason game was in Arizona, and it was the Texans against the Cardinals. And I drafted Aaron Foster. So the draft was before the game? Right before the game. Okay. I had tickets to the game. The guy who drafted Ben Tate drafted him a few rounds ahead of Aaron Foster. I couldn't go to the game. I gave him my tickets. I have not heard this part. Epic. He went to the game and watched Ben Tate break his leg. And...

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I had given him the tickets, and then Arian Foster had like a number one running back year on my team. That was just brilliant. So that's my story. You gave him the tickets to his despair. Oh, man. I don't think we're going to top that story. No, that's fantastic. Every year we get some of these late-round guys right, and they blow up, and it's what gets you to the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah, there are those, and there's no more fun than that than to get somebody late and be able to ride them. Like, you could ride girly.

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owners could ride him for like four or five weeks in the middle of the season last year. Alshan Jeffrey's breakout year was a good one for me that I was really in love with beforehand and got him late. And it didn't work out for me this year when I told everyone to draft him. However, two years ago, I told everybody I possibly could to draft Jeremy Hill. That's true. Ron in Connecticut. Hey, guys. Hey, Ron. I can keep a max of four of the following. In this league, you can only keep a player for a total of two years.

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