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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Listener Mailbag and Fantasy News

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So that's kind of some of the, you know, the things we like about a league. Zach and Peoria, what can we expect from Josh Gordon this year? Where do you see him being drafted in comparison to the other wide receivers? And is the risk worth the reward? I think, let me see. Is the risk worth the reward? I think that the Browns have been asking that for years. And they have held on to him through everything, and they will continue to because the risk is...

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the reward is worth the risk. We'll know probably in the next 30 days whether or not Josh Gordon is going to be reinstated. That is the timeline about that left. In fact, I think less than 30 days left. Granted, the NFL does not always adhere to that timeline. 87, 1646 and 9. That's what he put up last time he was healthy. And he missed what? Two games? That is correct. 87 for almost 1,700 yards in nine touchdowns. On the Browns.

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Yeah, he is a super talent. So where do we see him getting... He's 24. Where do we see him getting drafted? If this is a redraft league from scratch, he's probably, I think, going to go... I don't think he goes earlier than the third. I think that's where you're going to find him. I think third round is where you're going to find him. And I'm all over that. He could start doing this, though. The... Yeah, for those... Shooting up. Not on YouTube. Yeah, his arm was pointing up. I was...

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If you're in a league with me, he's likely not going to make it past the second round. But I do agree with you guys that I think the general ADP, the third round sounds about right. Here's the interesting thing, though. If we're in a league with you and he's not going to make it past, it means you're going to draft him in the second round. Yeah. Or you would. So you're saying you're going to take him over guys like potentially Sammy Watkins. Would you take Gordon? Yes. Take him over like Al-Shon Jeffrey?

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Alshan, probably not. Probably not. D.T. I probably would. I would. Mike Evans. Probably take him over Mike Evans. He probably would. Yeah. So, I mean, that's going to be exciting. It's close. I believe in Josh Gordon. I've come on here and said it many, many times. I do not believe he fits into the category of a off-the-rails type of, you know, he's gone through the suspensions. But, you know, his demeanor, the way he talks about it.

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after the fact, I believe he will be okay. That's where it's impossible for us to actually answer the question. Is the risk worth the reward? Yes, if he doesn't get in trouble and know if he does. And speaking for risk of reward, just think of like Martavis Bryant. Do you have any of those kinds of concerns about Martavis Bryant? Because you should. Well, if you gave Martavis Bryant a one-year suspension on top of what's happened already, then you'd be in the same.

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Well, but the reality is if he gets popped again, if he smokes weed and gets popped, he's out for the year. You're right. He's gone. So you've got to factor that in when you're drafting a guy like. So I'm saying the risk is identical for both of them. And they're both young and hyper talented, and they will have football teams as long as they're eligible to play football. JJ and Pittsburgh, I have the second pick in my draft this year. It is a keeper league so young guys go very fast. So my question is, do you, I go young?

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and take an elite like Elliot or Henry, so the two probably the highest projected running back rookies this year, like he did last year with Gurley, or does he take an established guy like Stewart or Forte wherever he lands? Four player keeper league. Other keepers are Gurley, Green, Demarius, and Hill or Hyde. No, not with the second. I mean, we're very early for talking guys like this, because we have...

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We have no idea what our opportunity is. We need to be very vague about this. But I will say I prefer Elliot much more. I think that he is a monster. I have huge concerns for Henry to be to do, to be an elite level running back at the NFL level. So Elliot is on, Elliot probably, I'm okay with it if you really want to do that. Henry, no.

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There's no way I'm going to say yes or no here because it's the landing spot and the role. If one of these guys had dropped into Jacksonville like yelled into last year and in the later round, I mean, there's a value there that you can see right away. So let's say, I mean, like Elliot will be drafted in the first two rounds. So that means wherever he's getting drafted, he's getting an opportunity. Sure. No, you're right. No, that's fair. Most likely. But you also had guys like Gordon.

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Or drafted early. For my taste, though, to his question. Melvin Gordon? Yeah. Melvin Gordon had so much opportunity. Yeah, he was given the crazy man of opportunity. He just stunk with it. Stunk. But his offensive line also stunk. Yes. So, JJ, I would say if I had the second pick in my draft, I would not probably spend, I would personally rather go with a guy.

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that I know you're going to have somebody that's valuable there, that you know what they do, you know they produce a veteran, like, you know, you said Jonathan Stewart, or hopefully you can even have better than that. I don't know what your keeper situation is. It's four-player, four-keepers. So there's a lot of guys off the board. Yeah, I mean, Jonathan Stewart or, you know, question mark running back, I'm probably going to go with a Jonathan Stewart personally. That's fair.

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Blake in Detroit, I'm going to keep a league where I can keep one player. I've narrowed it down to three. Levion Bell for a first, Julio for a second, or Gurley for a fourth. Ooh. Yeah, that's a done deal for me, Gurley. Easy, easy, peasy. Oof. It's between Julio and Gurley for me. Because if you have Levian Bell for a first or Todd Gurley for a fourth, I would go, Gurley. I'm going to take the value of the fourth round pick at that point. But...

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It's... And Julio Jones, do you guys think Julio will be drafted in the first round? He's going on the first right now. I think he'll be borderline first, maybe second. I think first round. But the point is... What receiver will he be? Probably the third off the board? Yeah. Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham. And then Julio? Yep. So he's likely to be a first round pick. So you're... Not that that...

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You get a little bit of value. But not a lot. I'm with Andy. I go Gurley in the 4th. Keep your first three picks plus that running back that you get in the 4th. Yeah, I'll go Gurley here in the 4th. All right. Nick in Portland, Maine, 10-team PPR League, keep two players. Rule 86. So Jordan Reed for a 10th. Thomas Rawls or Langford for an 11th. Alan Robinson for a 5th. Latavius Murray for a 6th. He won the league.

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He says thanks to our advice as well as two of his other leagues. Oh, right off. Very nice. He did a trifecta last year, so congratulations. The trident to victory. Right, the trident. Nick, congrats on that. As far as I'm concerned, I'm trying to decide on whether I want Rawls and Linkford. But if it's an or, he's saying he can only keep one. Okay. So I would...

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What are you guys thinking about Alan Robinson in this situation? A lot of people are going to be in this boat. Would he be one or two? Alan Robinson in the fifth round is a very good value. He is in consideration. I'd probably go Rawls and Robinson. That's where I lean. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Although...

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Murray and the 6th is, if they don't add another, if they don't go out and sign 4th, I think Murray is an RB1 next year. I want to roll in with all your first picks having Thomas Rawls and Latavis Murray, you're going to be in a good situation. To me, it's like Alan Robb, I don't think Latavius Murray is a locked and loaded elite running back for fantasy. Alan Robinson is, to me. We talked about, we feel like he will regress, but he's still a...

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a top tier wide receiver one for a fifth round pick that's great value so i'm going robinson and ralz all right patrick in dallas texas and he puts a disclaimer here oh oh pat patrick bored up your windows he said hate the cowboys hoodat nation but he lives in dallas board up your windows and your doors he says first off i listened for the first time this past season love the podcast it was a lunch ritual

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for him. Although I had Dalton in Rolls for the first week of the playoffs, it was a success, and you guys really helped me all year. But I never probably thank you guys for all the great advice, so thank you. His question is this. With the number one overall pick in our second-year Dynasty League, would you take Ezekiel Elliott? Or how do you pronounce that, by the way? Lequon. Lequon Treadwell. Man, like we were talking about with the other rookies, this is going to be a landing.

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situation. Everything that I have researched thus far is Treadwell and Elliott are kind of the alpha of their position this year. And when you're talking Dynasty, you tend to lean towards the wide receiver just because of the life expectancy of their career. It'll be longer. But, I mean... From what Jack Treadwell, you know, right landing spot, he can come out and be that.

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Year 1, Odell, A.J. Green. Not like that just because he's such a different player. I mean, he's not a burner by any means. But I mean, first, your fantasy impact. Those guys had a big fantasy impact. Right. Because are you projecting that into this or you just, you're waiting on treadmill? Yeah, it's, to me, you're just, it's, I'm not doing it just for this year. I'm thinking longer term. Everything I've watched for Elliot, though, is this guy is going to be a beast.

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I really think he's, I like him. I've liked everything I've watched so far from him. Not that, that's, that's not a knock against anything that Treadwell has done. Yeah. I've run a few knocks against Treadwell. More against...

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you know, guys that I really respect, because we don't, we aren't college experts here. We don't spend our time focusing on that, but we follow the guys that are experts. And some of the guys I respect a lot just say that this is not the year of the wide receiver one in this draft. And they include, uh, so then. Oh, I would say, if it's not the year, then would you say, I'm going to take the, the one who is the highest probability of being the wide receiver one? It makes sense. I mean, again,

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This really depends on landing spot. But Elliot, I think, has a better chance of having a year one impact, and then he's still a young superstar. Well, and the point here is that you don't want to, if the wide receiver class isn't as strong as we think projecting that way, you don't want to lock yourself into a dynasty mentality. Well, I just have to take the wide receiver.

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with my first pick. So I think, I think Elliot is where we lean right now, but let's wait to see. For now, that's where the combine looks like and where these guys end up. All right, David in Edmonton, Canada. Oh, bonjour! Hey guys, looking to start planning my keeper league picks. I love all these people in, in February, who are, like, I got to lock in my keepers. This is a fuck, because you know what we talk about at lunch?

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Locking in our keepers. Who's going to be your franchise guy? I was with some friends yesterday that I hadn't seen in a long time that we used to talk fantasy football all the time. And we were catching up on life and no more than eight minutes into the conversation of so much to catch up on. It was like...

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He goes, well, I'm just, I, you know, I've just been, I miss talking fantasy, and I've got this keeper dilemma that I'm going through right now, and then you start breaking it down. And it was like, man, it's, it's February, but we're thinking. Oh, yeah. Like, how are your kids? And they're still kids. Let's get to the good stuff. Do I keep balls in the eighth? There's still kids, but I don't want to lose David Johnson, but I don't want to put in my keeper lottery. So, all right.

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I lost myself here. We're still on David. We're still on David here. We get to keep three players that would be taken in the round that they were drafted in last year. Okay. If they were a waiver claim, we count them as our final pick in the next year's draft. So that is fine. You guys have more disparaging of that than I am. I think that's a reward for doing good things. That's stupid. Oh, you're stupid. All right. So for my opinions. Wondering your guy's suggestions on who I should be keeping. So Lev Bell for a one.

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Forte for a two, ivory for a fifth, Watkins for a seventh, Benjamin for a tenth, Jaii was a waiver, and Langford was a waiver. Ooh. Langford is locked and loaded. Yep, Langford is in for me. Sammy Watkins. Yeah, between Sammy Watkins and Levion Bell for me. Yeah, me too. And, yeah, I mean, Levy on Bell, sure, you're giving up your first. Half point PPR too. But you're giving up your first for... Maybe the one. For the...

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