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The annual staff-writer search is mentioned only once but usually draws 500 to 1,000 applications. Kyle is editor-in-chief, Kyle and Julia lead the editorial team, every applicant will receive an email, and anyone asking for the forgotten address is jokingly IP-blocked for failing the greatness prerequisite.
A discussion of Dalton Kincaid's chronic injuries revives a line the show explicitly calls a famous thing Jason once said about Christian McCaffrey: 'What is wrong with your body?'
Jason's proud claim that he truthfully reports himself as 5-foot-11 is tested shoes-off with Al and a tape measure. The remembered result settles at 5-foot-10-and-three-eighths; Jason blames shrinking and bad measurement, while a later soundboard miss is mocked as '5-10 button pushing.'
Because KC is built from Kevin Concepcion's initials, the hosts spiral through Casey, KC, and KC Concepcion before comparing the redundant construction with saying 'automatic teller machine machine.'
When Elijah Sarratt's name comes up, an explicitly Mike-credited pun turns a hot performance into 'Sarratt-cha sauce,' followed by the immediate insistence that he has invented it himself.
The Footballers make their annual, deliberately one-time call for new staff writers, warning that the usual 500 to 1,000 applicants will all receive replies. Kyle is identified as editor-in-chief and he and Julia lead the editorial team; applicants should bring their own voice and passion, while anyone who asks for the forgotten address is jokingly IP-blocked for failing the prerequisite of being great. A Dalton Kincaid injury item revives the line Jason once famously aimed at Christian McCaffrey: 'What is wrong with your body?' The centerpiece is a retrospective height fight. Jason had proudly claimed to be a non-rounding 5-foot-11, immediately agreed to remove his shoes, and was measured shoes-off while Al was there with a tape measure; the result was 5-foot-10-and-three-eighths. Jason blames shrinking, bad tape measures, and a moving wall mark; much later, a botched soundboard press is called '5-10 button pushing.' The hosts also turn KC Concepcion into a redundant ATM-machine-style initials loop and explicitly credit Mike with converting Elijah Sarratt into 'Sarratt-cha sauce.'
Oh, I did not say that. And then they were in on AJ Brown in discussions. They're in on all these draft opportunities. So you would have to wait on Lemon to be the dominator. Yeah, it's weird because the Rams are where you want to be, and it seems like they have things figured out a wide receiver, but also they might not. Because Adams is going to be gone soon, and Puka just stay with us. I view the Rams as a good destination. Hook me up with Sean McVeigh. Yeah. And I know you're going to have a top half offense moving forward. And so that's a win to me. Jordan Tyson, he is my number one wide receiver. Breakout age was 18. He's 6-2-203. He has dealt with injuries. I mean, last year he only played in nine games at ASU, dealt with injuries the year before and missed, I believe the Texas.
If not the entire game, I think he missed the entire game against Texas in the college football playoff that went down to the wire that Scadaboo took over. To me, he's the most versatile and skilled wide receiver of this class. I've got to watch more of him than I have the other guys over the last few years. But like I said, he was 1110 as a junior, injured last year, played nine games, 7-11, and 8. To me, he has it. He has the type of it factor that I saw from Justin Jefferson immediately in terms of his body moves differently than other wide receivers. Oh, his body control is awesome for a guy his size. When you're 6 to 200 pounds and you can do in the air what he does, it's just a thing of beauty. He's all three of our wide receiver one. He is...
you know, third on this list today because he's usually not the number one being drafted. But coming at it from a fantasy football perspective, it's tough to know for sure if Carnell Tate can be the true alpha target shared dominator in the NFL since he wasn't on his team in college. But Jordan Tyson was his team's alpha. And he should be drafted to be that type of player, a bigger guy that can be used around the end zone and can have a, you know, a 28. percent target share in the NFL. So that projection is probably why I'm guessing all three of us have him currently listed as the wide receiver one. But he's not without concerns. He did not have a lot of mistackles forced. And the injury history. The injury history. Contested catches is not an area he particularly, like he's not elite at that. And, you know, he's 6-200, which I.
At 6-2, you wanted to put on a little bit more weight, which he, I mean, he definitely can. I mean, Tate's listed 6-2-192. Right. Yeah, both of those guys could put on a few. And Tyson, though, when it comes to, like, press coverage, he's wild, man, because he can off the line. He has some particular moves off the line where he just makes defenders look ridiculous as they end up in a different area code, and he ends up wide open. But if they can get their hands on him, it can be tougher for Tyson. So he needs to improve at things. But Jason, you said it well. We're looking from fantasy football. If all three of these guys hit, I think Tyson's archetype is the biggest hit for fantasy. That's about where I'm out. I mean, C.D. Lamb vibes a little bit. Devante Smith, but with 30 more pounds vibes a little bit.
He's very slippery. I mean, I think that's the way that I watched a lot of his routes at ASU, and it was like getting in and out of breaks in a different way than other receivers do it. So whether those injury fears impact the draft class, I mean, that mock draft I just looked at, it was Tyson to the Rams. It was the good destination that Jason talked about. So those are the big three names that we know are going within probably the first 15 picks of this draft. Yeah, I mean, once you get past the top 15, they will be saying on the broadcast,
that this player is slipping and he's a good value is the highest player left on the board type of commentary. If any of those three you're saying, yeah. Who's our next name? Omar Cooper Jr.? Yep. All right, junior out of Indiana. So Mendoza, national title winning wide receiver. Talk to me about the things you like you saw from him, 13 touchdowns during that run to the championship under 1,000 yards. So his yards per catch a little lower than a couple of the guys above. But great at force, miss, tackles. Yeah, great at it. That's just the calling card. I mean, he's good against zone coverage. And he's a, you know, when you get the ball on his hands, he, like, he makes people, he can make people miss. He can absorb contact. Like, he is a very, he's a very solid player. And he.
But that's my question for him is, is, will he just be solid? Because when you're, when you're that type of player, you know, the, the comps that people are throwing out for Omar of like the hope is like, hey, Debo. But putting the name of Debo Samuel on anyone is just unfair. Yes, it's not a fair expectation because. What about DJ Moore? I think that's the that is the actual hope of play style that I think he could get to. He is not as good a wide receiver. Yes. He's not as good a wide receiver coming out as DJ Moore was. I actually think Luther Burden is a pretty good comp because when I watched Luther Burden, what was so awesome about Luther Burden was once he had the ball in his hands, he was absolutely electric. And I wasn't as confident in his full.
you know, route tree and just the actual wide receiver package coming out of college. That's kind of how I feel about Omar Cooper Jr. You watch this last year and they were like, we've got to get the ball in this guy's hands. And so so many of his plays. 28% screens were screens. There were so many plays that were three, four yards down the field where it's like, act like you're running a nine and then stop. And I don't know if those go in. Yeah, 17% out route. Yeah. So between the two, you're. You're up over in the 50% rate. And so that concerns me for is he ready to come in as a fully developed, perfect wide receiver. Daniel Jeremiah has him as his 18th ranked player overall. That is above Jordan Tyson at 21 right now. So he loves him. And I will say there is a lot to like about him. Personally, I've got a few worries simply because of how much of it was just kind of manufactured touches versus him.
getting open, creating separation. It was like all deep or short. And I like the middle of the field stuff. If you're going to really dominate in the NFL, you've got to be a possession guy that's going 15 yards down the field, getting open and catching that. And that's just not where it's not saying he can't do it, but he didn't do that as much. He has, he's one of the later risers. And I think there was some questions about is he going to go into the draft? I can't remember exactly what happened there. But he was trending as a third round pick on mock draft database in January. And now he's up into like near the middle of the first round. Omar Cooper has been flying high in mock drafts and big boards and those type of things. He is certainly trending upward. I wonder if the mock draft has got some info.
When I watched him, this isn't anything against Omar Cooper Jr., but Elijah Surrah, I liked him better. Really? Yeah, I mean, so that's his teammate there. I like his path better. Kind of got significantly better every year and dominated and transferred and transferred and transferred to just prove he could do it and then win the national championship. This guy loyal, great. He was at Indiana the entire way, but it. It felt like it took him a long time to be relevant. He was 9-61 and 13 last year, but 10 catches 207 and 4 came in one game against Indiana State, which jettisoned all those numbers northward. We'll take a break and we'll get into some more names. It's time to talk about Denzel Boston, 64, 212. Denzel Boston out of Washington, you know, four years in Washington.
So we're going back to back loyal wide receivers here. Dominated man coverage, I believe the majority of his touchdowns came in that environment. But what were your reactions to the tape on Denzel Boston? Another name we've seen go very, very high in mock drafts. I am terrified of Denzel Boston because he is in the archetype of a player that I don't like. Yeah, I am in the exact same boat. Really? Yeah. We have not talked about this. He is the type of player who that type, your success in college comes from this from being a bully. I mean, he's being human. He's a big dude. Yeah. And there's, but you're a big dude. You're the, you're the BMOC. And then you go to the NFL and you are no longer the big man on campus. Everyone is bigger than you. I don't, I'm not, I don't gravitate towards that type of a player. And yet I really like.
Denzel Boston. I brought it up on the Dynasty show, Jay, but it was like your quote of talking about Xavier Leggett of like, it's not going to work. Don't don't pick him, but I'm going to do it. That's how I feel about Denzel Boston. My historical avoidance of these players has led me in the correct path most of the time, but I'm very drawn in. to his play style. Yeah, I mean, he's tall and he's skinny. He had some incredible games, dominated some games. Unfortunately, I felt like he disappeared sometimes. You know, I didn't go game by game to see the reasons why on whether they were winning or losing or up or down as I'm grinding the film. But I would agree with you that the archetype doesn't usually work. He is going to be highly drafted. He's going to be a first round pick. You want me to tell you a team? Yeah.
I'll give you a couple teams to connect to the dots with Omar Cooper. With Omar or Denzel? Well, both. I'm going to say, I'm going to give you one for both. I want to just give you some. Sometimes it just helps to put some teams to the name. Omar Cooper in this last mock I'm looking at went 26 to the Buffalo Bills. Oh, man. And Denzel Boston went 27, the next pick to the San Francisco 49ers. Oh, man. I would love the second. I would actually not like. The first I'm much. I just feel like I'll turn into Khalil Shakir. Well, it's funny because Cooper, you're like, oh, he reminds you a DJ more. So let's play with together. The Buffalo Bills is the siren that will always steer our fantasy ships into the rocks. It's not going to happen. Well, they don't need to lean on one dude. That's the thing. You can be worthy of it there and they don't do it. But Boston, he.
He's met with San Francisco, by the way. His production profile is solid, especially because of touchdowns. Just a dominator there. But it's just, can it translate to the next level and his athletic testing, which we don't get carried away with athletic testing? It's fun when it's awesome. But his was pretty poor for a player that's going to be drafted in the, probably drafted in the first round. Shall we move on? Yeah. Casey Concepcion. Now we're talking. Junior out of Texas A&M. Which is an ATM machine problem here. Because Casey is just his initials. So the C is Concepcion. In the case. And you want to point this out off the jump. Yeah. So we need to get it. So his name is Kevin Conception. Concepcion. Yes. Casey. Casey. Casey.
Casey Casey. Casey. Yeah. It's like automatic teller machine machine. Yes. Um, top 40 hits. This last mock I'm looking at has him going at 24 to your Cleveland Browns. Um, no. They have picks all. I don't get wrecked. Kyle loves Casey. Kyle loves him. Yeah. I'm Texas A and him six foot one 96. Um, Twitchiness galore. He's, so he more reminds me a burden. if we're making that comp of like he is just he gets open he like he he's handling press coverage pretty well he is just an absolute menace and but also a menace are his hands as he drops a lot of passes he has uh you know we you see it every once in a while just like the player
who they can make the most redonculus, highlight, difficult level catch. You're like, that's incredible. And this is the easy one. And then the wide open layup, bink, right off the hands. So he needs to get that under control. Drops if you, like, haven't been playing fantasy football for a long time. Drops, honestly, are not a huge, it's not a really big, like Mike Evans has had drop problems in his. Hall of Fame level career. So I'm not overly concerned about it. What is it? What? Yeah, Amin Ra. I mean, Amin Ra led the NFL in drops this year. You can also drop more passes when you're getting targeted up a billion times. When you've established yourself, you can get away with it. But I really, I, if it weren't for the drop problems, like, I would be.
I might have him in my top three. Drops. I think he is great. Yeah, I mean, you just alluded to it, but drops really shouldn't be that big of a deal. There's something that is not a super sticky stat. And their concentration drops of maybe a coach can get in his head about it. Yeah, I mean, the opposite of Omar Cooper here, this is a guy that I feel like I did see in the middle of the field a lot. I saw him, you know, as a much more complete player. Returning ponds. Yeah, used on special teams a lot, which we love when someone is.
Use on special teams it shows that the coaching staff is like they really need to have this player on the field in space because people can't get him. He's not a universal first round pick and mocks. I mean, I've seen a lot of them where he's just on the outskirts of the first round, first five picks of the second round. Our team's going to view him as a starting outside wide receiver. Are they going to view him as somebody that comes in? The best comparison I can make is the way teams can use Rashid Jihad where you're like, you know that guy's amazing.
but you're also more gadget, you're more special teams. You're not necessarily looked on and relied upon to be your every down star. I guess I'm just curious if he's got to find the right connection with a team that believes in him for fantasy purposes to take the next level. I think we're going to find a lot of the same going forward now that we're past the top three guys, which is essentially this is a good wide receiver. Whether he is a fantasy star, it's like a lot of these guys you're hoping for a Christian Kirk. type of fantasy career where it's like Christian Kirk has done really important things in fantasy. He's been a top 24 wide receiver. I think he was a top 12 wide receiver one year, which we forget. I think so. You get thrown out wild accusations here, man. Yeah, but he doesn't feel like it because he's never really. He was. Jacksonville. That's right. So.
That's like always my comp. Yeah, he was a sleeper in the UD King of that year. Oh, well. Tell me more about this UDK, what does that stand for? It's an ultimate draft kit. That sounds like the ultimate draft kit. You should get it at ultimate draft kit.com. But I think Casey Concepcion is a very good wide receiver. You can call him Kevin if you want. But he doesn't, he wants to be Casey. Does he want to be Casey or does he have to add on the Concepcion to make sure everyone knows that we're talking about it? Oh, you're saying you can either go. Can we just go Casey? You can go Kevin Concepcion. What if the chiefs draft him? I don't want to not say. Oh, no. Casey, Casey, KC, Concepcion. Okay. That's like Michael Pittman in Pittsburgh. Yeah. Um, last four mock draft destinations. Cleveland, Cleveland, Buffalo, Miami at 30. Oh, Miami would be perfect. Cleveland, Cleveland is going to. Cleveland is going to ruin someone. This is where, this is what I'm saying. You just hope.
Like Malachi Fields. Yeah, he's perfect. Take him. Yeah. Perfect. He's that archetype where he just is the, he's bigger bully ball. Got older than all the little kids and bigger than all the little kids and just dominated. And it probably won't work in the NFL. And so it's like that look, Cleveland, he's awesome. They have a lot of fields in Ohio too. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Perfect. You got to have the name match where you're going. Nowadays. Nowadays, this is the only way to succeed. All right. We'll move on. We got a couple of tight ends to talk about. So let me ask you this first, though. There's a lot of other wide receiver names. We obviously were not exhaustive. If you want to get into more names, you can listen to The Dynasty Show to get deeper. Chris Brazel, Chris Bell, Jeremy Bernard out of Alabama, who's on the other end of a lot of Ty Simpson's success. Malachi Field, Zach Branch. Is there somebody you're in love with? I really do like Elijah Serrat.
Okay. That's the teammate in Indiana. You know what I called him? No. I said what if he. Saracha? If he gets hot. If he gets hot. Saracha sauce. Yeah, baby. I promise. He's never heard that. No, you just made it up. Yeah. You just, that's all you, Mike. That is, that is really good. I think he's good. Jeremy Bernard, the wide receiver from Alabama is another one of those real solid, you know. quality receivers that you're like probably not a fantasy star but but we'll be fantasy relevant and those are all names like every name i just said including sarat skyler bell ted hurst they're all in the top like 82 projected picks yeah and that's great draft capital that's a team being invested saying we are having this player on the field from the beginning and and the truth is most of these players um are legitimately good enough
to be drafted there and be solid wide receiver 2s in the NFL and hopefully wide receiver 3 plus in fantasy football uh last name i'll just throw out zachariah branch is a very interesting the screen god yeah he was like 50% of his targets are at the line of scrimm this this was like no thank you yeah no it's it's it's bad um he has absurd acceleration his his it's you know kind of like you don't want to you whisper the Tyree kill right because he's not he's not as he's smaller than than Tyreek but it's got that same level of like crazy instant acceleration so he will be very interesting I'm curious where he goes and people are very very very high on him and very very very very out on him
All right, we've got to talk tight ends, guys. We've got two names to bring up. Some teams looking for the tight-in position, Miami, they're looking for everything, and they've got every pick. Tampa Bay, maybe, Carolina, the Eagles, we'll see. But let's talk about the cream of the crop, Kenyon Sadiq, junior out of Oregon, just unbelievable. Ran a 439 at 632.41. Let that sit. Dude, I don't, what do we do with this guy? You're talking about how he only had 560 yards? Yes. Like this is not, this isn't Kyle Pitts production wise. Right. This, this is a Kyle Pitts athlete who 6.3, 240, which 240 is actually, I mean, save your production for the NFL. That's what I say. It's a little lighter. But you, he ran a 439.
He is a physical freak of nature. A physical freak. You're talking not like he's better than all the other athletes. And he's going to be a top 15 pick in the NFL draft. That alone is kind of all you need to know when you actually dig deeper and try to judge and find the... yellow and red flags. You go, okay, well, he wasn't. You go, you don't have to dig very deep. No, it's right there, 560 yards. His production profile is not like a lot of previous top end prospects from recent years. Brock Bowers, Kyle Pitts, those guys. So it'll be interesting where he goes will make a difference as to the target pecking order that he can find himself in. I got a team for you. All right, who? The last four mocks I've looked at.
All the same spot. Why don't you tell us the spot? It's Tampa Bay at 15. Okay. And three of the last four and then one of them had Carolina at 19. Tampa Bay seems like the most I'm not excited spot possible because he can go there and make big important plays on a regular basis and not necessarily be big for a fantasy when they have the depth that they have at the wide receiver position, the resigning of Kate Otten. What role is that player going to have? It just screams 400 yards and five touchdowns type of rookie season. Carolina, you start to get a little bit more interested personally because, man, Ted McMillan was really all alone in a lot of respects last year. They have some talent at wide receiver beyond him, but that's where you're kind of seeing. You're not seeing top 10 mock picks recently as much as you were maybe a month ago.
Do you think he ends up in the top 10? No, I think he's a middle of the... He'll be 11 to 20, that range, I think, in the draft. He's a very good prospect. You don't watch him and say that he did anything wrong. If he did anything wrong, maybe he blocks too well for us in fantasy football. But he's... It's funny because I... 23 to the Eagles? Seeing that as well? I genuinely want... Yeah, I've seen him to the Rams as well. I mean, if the Eagles jettison A.J. Brown, you need another weapon. I, like, I, I want stowers more than Sadiq, but I don't want to say that out loud because I feel so stupid. I'm getting close to that. So, so Sadiq will be the only first round, or other first round tight ends with a lower dominator rating, the 21%. A dominator rating is a combination of the teams receiving yards and the teams receiving touchdowns. And it is a, it's a pretty strong indicator, hence them calling it the dominator rating.
But the only guys with a lower than 21%, you have O.J. Howard, that did not work out. You have Hayden Hurst. For fantasy purposes, that did not work out. And then Kenyon Sadiq will join that list. And so there, he is so tantalizing of what he could become. If Kenyon Sadiq hits and everything clicks and he works in the NFL, he can dominate. Yeah. But. I struggle to see it happening. Yeah, and that's the toughest part about any of these rookie tight ends. We've obviously had massive production from rookie tight ends for years. Yeah. The toughest part is like when you're drafted this high, it comes with a lot of expectation and a lot of game planning for you to be part of an offense. Like these guys are going to have opportunities, whether they capitalize on it, whether it's as much as we want. That's still in question. The second tight end off the board to talk about is Eli Stowers, yeah.
The stower of power. I mean, the majority of mock drafts, the vast majority of mock drafts with stowers have one destination in mind. Give it to me. The Denver Broncos. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a joker. That's a joker. He went to college to play quarterback guys. Okay. And then switcheroo. Jokes on you. He's met with Denver. I'm the tight end now. Let me give you the number, 765 yards and four touchdowns last year. He is 6-4-239, 23 years old, out of Vanderbilt. And he's a wide receiver. I mean, he's a slot wide receiver. He's a route runner. He is a weapon for fantasy football. This is why I like him better. He's not going to be this guy that is constantly in line blocking. He's going to be used to catch the ball down the field and be a large target. That's what you want in fantasy football. He was the John Mackey Award winner.
You look back in the last couple years, that's been pretty good. Tyler Warren, Brock Bowers, Brock Bowers, Trey McBride. Stowers is also, while his 40 did not come off, you know, as, as. It's not Kenyon Sadiq 439. Sadiq, because he was sub 4-4 at his size, which is outrageous and unheard of, I mean, there's been very few people in the history of the NFL that have done that. He got all the pub. But Stowers might have had the better combine. Right. He also ran a faster 40 than Carnell Tate did. Yeah, he's super fast. He was at 451. Tate was at 453. This is what you said. His speed score is outraged. I think he, Kyle, maybe you know this one. I think he put up the second highest vert. If Stowers goes to Denver. In the history of the combine. If Stowers goes to Denver, I'm going to try really hard.