RB Rankings Part Two + Bag O' Money, Time After Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/10

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Which way comes? Any Mike and Jason with you. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate you out there. And it's going to be a great show. We got another running back rankings show. If you didn't get one through 10, you can do that on Friday. So here's the thing about a running backs. Yes. Tell me, Mike. The top 10 list. The top 10 list is running backs one through 10. Yes. Yes, it is.

And we captured that on Friday's episode of the podcast, so you can go back and listen. And today, 11 through, is it 20, Brooks? Are we just going as far as we can go? We got 11 through 20. All right. We're stopping. Hard stop. Maybe a few extras, maybe. Okay. How are you doing today, Brooks? You doing all right? I'm doing all right. Got any lunch plans? Oh, you know it. Oh, you can check out the Ultimate Draft Kit at Ultimate DraftKit.com. We just launched some player profiles on the website.

which are amplified by your UDK subscription. So if you've got the ultimate draft kit, you can check those out on the website. We're very excited about them. Very. They have athletic profile data for every player. So we're looking at their draft metrics, and Jason did a lot of heavy lifting here with the analytical breakdown, explosiveness, and speed score and things of that nature.

That is true. Things that you know so very much about. I mean, look, when you want an expert on explosiveness and quickness, you go to the guy who is surprisingly athletic. You go to the B League flag football champion. That's right. That's right. What we should do is we did a combine video a long time ago. And people have asked, are you going to do another combine? I don't think we do like just a full combine competition.

But if we could get our own athletic profiles, like get our speed scores, our explosive scores. Yeah, that has to happen. Yeah, why don't we have profiles? We run the company, Mike. We can make our, I mean, our devs can do whatever we want. It would be really fun and probably really embarrassing. We might need to turn the dials up a bit on those scores. We might need to scoge them up. I just don't understand why we're not promoting the profiles on Twitter with Jason's 40. We have it on film.

We're talking about explosiveness and quickness. We can cut that film out, and we can put it around on the internet. That's not a good look. Not a good idea? Okay. Well, quick question of the day. This is the big one. By the way, you can find us on Twitter at the F.F. Ballers, the communities over at join the foot.com. And the big news over the weekend, as is sometimes the case, one of these situations, Washington.

has released Darius Geis following an arrest on domestic violence-related charges. In fact, if you look into the details of this, these were three different accounts that he is being charged with. Turned himself in, was released almost immediately by the team, which is obviously a terrible situation. And we have to turn the page. We've got to look at the fantasy show. Right. And we've got to look at the fantasy fallout of something that happens a couple times a year. Here we are.

Looking at the Washington football team, they have a deep running back room. There's a lot of excitement out there in particular about Antonio Gibson, third round rookie running back wide receiver, Swiss Army Knife, return man. And they have Adrian Peterson coming back. We've got Peyton Barber signed this off season. We have Bryce Love, who basically redshirted his rookie year. He had an ACL tear in his senior season at Stanford. And then...

Smooches. Smoochis is there. Jady McKissick is there. And when you, it's almost, it's funny because no one wants to consider him in this picture. But he was signed this offseason by this regime, had 34 receptions last year, has played the third downback on multiple teams now, Detroit and Seattle. So I have my thoughts on the situation. I think most people want to know who to draft out of this backfield.

how you think it's going to play out over the season. And then I would say the ceiling, the upside of the Antonio Gibson discussion. Because most people want to know, look, I was in a bathroom stall the other day. It said, if you're looking for a good time, go watch Antonio Gibson YouTube videos. It's a good time. Because this is a player. That was not, it was not my handwriting. It was your handwriting. Oh, no. Because it was right next to a Blake Darwin phone number. And I, anyways.

When we look at Antonio Gibson, when I say go watch Antonio Gibson YouTube highlights, that is equivalent to saying go watch Antonio Gibson play college football because he has such a small, he played basically one season. I mean, he had a very small. Well, he played one season at Memphis. Correct. But he had very, he has very few opportunities and everything he did turned to goal, 33 carries. He was King Midas on the football field, yes. So obviously people see that. They combine it with the, what the,

He's one of three players compared to Christian McCaffrey in that backfield. So I'll hand it off and then I'll close us down on that discussion. Yeah. So we're going to temper expectations and be realistic with what is actually going to happen with the Washington football team backfield. This isn't going to be the Antonio Gibson show week one. He's just the start. That's not what I believe. I know that's not what Andy believes. I don't know where you stand, Mike. But that's not the case.

You know, you, Andy, you just referred to the team as a very deep running back core. And to me, that's like describing the Patriots wide receiver group as this really deep. You know, they've got Nikiel Harry. They've got a bunch of guys. They've got Julian Edelman, who's been great. They've got Mohammed Sunu. They gave up a second rounder for him. Jacoby Myers has shown flashes. But like, I think universally people would say the.

the Patriots wide receiver group is one of the worst in the league right now. And that's how I look at the Washington backfield. I'm not inspired by Adrian Peterson at this age. He's okay. He's a vet. I'll give him that. But, you know, he was in the 800 yards last year, and he was basically the starter for almost the entire season last year.

Peyton Barber. I think this is a murky group where, yes, they have a lot of guys there, but I don't think there is much talent, which is why they would spend a third round pick, an early third round pick on Antonio Gibson. I think they believe in the talent and that they want to get him involved. So if I'm looking at this season and saying, who am I going to draft of this group?

I definitely think AP is the starter right now who will get more touches in the beginning, and there's no chance I'm drafting Adrian Peterson. I don't need that on my fantasy roster. Some mediocre running back 26 that week gets some points. I'm going to draft Gibson, who is, you know, a great pass catcher, and you know that that's where fantasy gold really comes from for running backs.

So I lean much more on the Gibson side. I'm excited. There's nothing that could happen better for him than the presumed starter to be completely out of the way. Right. And okay, so I'll jump in. It's not just they spent the 302 on Antonio Gibson. Washington didn't have a second round pick. So they drafted.

With their second pick in the draft, they drafted Antonio Gibson and they drafted him over a bunch of other running backs in the league. I'm with Jason. Look, you know, I've been beating the drum all off season for Antonio Gibbs. I think his upside the ceiling of this player is insane. Adrian Peters is still the starter right now. I do believe that Antonio Gibson has the talent to get to become, you know, in a timeshare, maybe even become the

the 1A, so to speak, of a 1A, 1B situation. He, I get, people point at the Memphis stats. He did play in junior college as well and was dominant there. Like, yeah, the opportunities have been limited, but follow the path of what Antonio Gibson has done. The reason he was at junior college is because, look, he screwed up in school. He didn't have the grades. He couldn't end up at a Division I school. So he went to Juco.

And he was dominant there. His talent earned him a spot onto Memphis in Division I football. His talent at Memphis earned him to being an early third round pick in the NFL draft. Ahead of Kishon, ahead of Zach Moss. And this was, you know, Ron Rivera was part of the decision process of saying, I want that guy on my team. So I'm just trying to follow the money. I get it. They signed Peyton Barber. They signed McKissick. This is before the draft, though, where you have to go get players. You can't just assume.

that you're going to get your guy in the third round. You have to make moves. Bryce Love is definitely interesting because he had the huge breakout campaign where he was a 2100 yards. He was a Heisman candidate in his junior year. Things really fell off for him, his senior year. Now he played through a left ankle injury, so perhaps that plus poor offensive line. That's the cause of everything falling apart. And unfortunately for him, you know, he tore his ACL in his final game, which is...

That sucks, man. But Bryce Love, I think he does have talent. He's a smaller back. But, man, what Antonio Gibson can do on the field, plus his production all over the field in all aspects of the game, including kick returns. And I was talking with Rich Rebar about guys that have huge amounts of return yards. And...

Look, the list of these guys who were top 100 picks in the NFL, or top 100 running backs sorted by return yards, the hit list is pretty amazing. You put your best players on returns. You want to say, this guy's great in the open field, put them on kick returns. You know, and it doesn't matter who, what the position they play on the field. I mean, Antonio Gibson was a special player or a special team player of the year for the AAC. He'll do that. He'll do that for Washington. He is an incredible player.

I don't know how long it will take him to get on the field. And what's unfortunate about the situation is I believe that Gibson had the talent to play his way to...

the spot regardless of Darius. I was going to say the Darius Geisting might actually destroy his draft value. It 100% does because it's not much of a difference in the ceiling opportunity for Gibson with Geis there. Exactly. Now you have to be right. Now the ADP is going to get out of control. There's a, yeah. Look, I have no regrets about driving up the ADP of Antonio Gibson. I'm very excited about what this player could do. Yeah, there's a lot of things. I think the best lens to look at Antonio Gibson through is not this one where he has to