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You had more wins than losses with the stack. So I do think that stacking and redraft is good. And for, I mean, I unabashedly love it. Yes. I mean, I just love from a fantasy player perspective, it's wonderful when you're watching Justin Herbert and you have Mike Williams and you get that connection because we've had matches in the past where you. grab victory from the Jaws the defeat with one Mahomes to Tyreek play or one of those stack plays and they're just it makes it fun ask yourself this sometimes we learn the best thing by like what we fear do you want to go up against someone who has a stack like when you're like in your matchup and you're like oh man he's got the quarterback wide receiver stack you're terrified of it for good reason like do what terrifies others

Next question. It's good advice for serial killers. Right, yeah. Yo, yo, yo, y' yo, ballers. Appreciate all of you. I have a question around just the dynasty value of Kyle Pitts. I haven't been a league. I see him as untouchable, but I'm getting amazing offers. Like, I got offered a first, Najee, Ann Hawkinson for Pitt straight up. Oh, man. And, like... Am I crazy with how much I value Pitts in a Dynasty League? Well, oh, man. I'll jump in for a second. Like, that's a good offer. But you're not, the reason you're holding on to Kyle Pitts is because you see the potential for him to break the game at tight end. You're seeing an advantage of multiple points season after season and unlocking that special power. You know, if you get...

Hawkinson and he is a perennial kind of top five guy, okay, you got value, you can throw him in your tight end position, but you're kind of looking to beat everybody else at tight end, which is why I think he's valued that high, and I don't think it's wrong to value him that high. Travis Kelsey hit five years in a row where he was the number one tight end and not just the number one guy, but in his own Travis Kelsey tier. So I mean, like... Sure, you don't know for sure that that's going to happen. But of all the tight ends in the league right now, the most likely replacement for that type of dominance, for a guy who could be the number one tight end for five or six straight years, it's Kyle Pitts. So that offer is overwhelming, which kudos to that other manager, because that's how you have to get someone like Kyle Pitts is you just, you overwhelm them with greatness. But I don't, I don't mind you.

Being cautious and still holding. Take the deal and run. Take it and run. Here's my counter argument. My count, I completely agree with what Mike just said. Like, he has the 100% best chance to be the next Travis Kelsey. And you want to know what you would have had to pay to get Kelsey when he was prime, like, about to do that? You'd have to pay Najee and a first rounder and T.J. Hawkinson. But he already did it at that point. Like, here's. Would you have trained Kelsey for those three players? In that time? In that situation? I would have, but my point is it isn't, I know this is going to, you know, get me fired. Well, you can't fire. We own the show. I will not fire myself for this take. Not again. There's two of us and one of you. I don't know if you know how that math works. But it is not actually a guarantee that Pitts is great. I do think it's going to happen. But Marcus Mariotta comes in this year.

There's going to be 1,500 fewer receiving yards. And Drake London is Saturday. Saturday's your hate pits day. I forgot. Sunday is your love pits. I love pits. But my point is the next year following that. Well, following that, they're going to probably have a rookie quarterback. So there could be several years from now before the breakout happens. If you trade him today, you're trading that the breakout already has happened. So let's say he does break out. You're fine. You got value for the breakout. So it's not an anti-pit stake. You're capitalizing on the potential before it's even realized, always do that. What does he do with the pits jersey he bought, though? You send it with the deal. Oh, it goes with the deal. All right. All right. He can't hold onto it at that point. Next question. We got Keenan Allen rolling up. Oh, there we go. What's up for us? What's your name, boss?

I'm Kyle, happy to be here y'all. A Kyle with a Keenan Allen jersey? Yes, sir. Oh, okay. We got one of those. Yeah. Here's my question. Which of these three late round tight ends are you most interested in taking a shot on? We got Irv Smith, Tyler Higby, or Gerald Mount Everett. Good callback. So the question of... Questions to you? Gerald Everett, Tyler Higby, Irv Smith. Which late round tight end are you going with? I mean, my projections have it at Irv Smith. I, like, I can, I can pretty easy. It's probably not Higby. That's what I was going to say is I can rule out Higby. He's got the knee injury. We've had time to Higby, and we didn't like it. No, we've seen that a few times, and it's just, I don't know that I can keep. Higby. Smashing my face into that brick wall over and over. The, Irv Smith and Gerald, ever, both extremely interesting. Both, I mean, similar situation, right?

You have two known wide receivers who are going to be 20% of the targets each. I mean, I would rather have Justin Herbert throwing me the ball over Kirk Cousins, but there's still the excitement for Cousins and the new offense. So my projections in all the process led me to Earth Smith, so I'll stay there for now. That's where I am as well. You've got, you know, a reality where I know Adam Thielen is great. but he's going into his age 32 season. There is a non-zero chance that, you know, like Jordy Nelson went from the wide receiver three to the wide receiver one, the wide receiver one, to the next year when he turned 32, and he played all but one game. He went to the wide receiver 46 and didn't get 500 receiving yards. So I'm not saying that's going to happen with Dylan, but it could. And if it does, Irv Smith could be the number two in Target, so that would be my pick. Next final question it looks like.

Howdy, Ballers. Howdy? What's your name? My name is Gabe from Los Angeles. So my question is this. Given that this is the Fire and Ice episode, what player or player take are you most nervous about being wrong about this season? I know mine for sure. All right. Get in. Look, I've got some deep scars from Carriott Johnson. And I love. I love Brees Hall, and I think he's- Carry on my favorite son. And I am so terrified of being wrong because I'm not going to stop my love for care. We know that. Yeah, I'm not going to stop touting Brees Hall. He is great, and that's not to say I haven't been wrong before or I couldn't be wrong here. I'm terrified to be wrong, but Brees Hall's great. You have one, Andy? Well, I certainly don't want Trey Lance to be that good.

Is that for fantasy or for Cardinals? That's for you. I don't want you to dunk on me. If he's just regular good, I think I get by okay. Yeah, that's fair. For me, it's the second year wide receivers where I'm like, I just don't see it happening. But like Elijah Moore and Rashad Bateman, they are terrified because they are both excellent. They're both excellent. But Rashad Bateman in the passing volume of the Ravens. I know you made the case for Hollywood Brown for this year, but that's when he really got it done. Other than that, really nothingness. And then I'm never betting on Zach Wilson. That's just, that's something that will not happen. A lot of dog in him. The old quote that came out against Lamar, where he's like, I don't care if he's a QB1 MVP for 12 years in a row. That's how I feel about Zach Wilson. He could do that. I'll say, yeah, that guy sucks. Yeah, yeah. All right, that is going to do it.

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