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Starts of the Week + Week 1 Breakdown, Injury Panic - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/10
Fantasy Football - Starts of the Week + Week 1 Breakdown, Injury Panic - Podcast for 9/10
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140 passagesJust with all the emotions and screaming and shouting it, what a, what a just fun game. No, Jason, we are not doing that. I thought the game was fun. No, the game ended fun, yes. Yes, but you can't have that end without it being tight. This is part of football, man. Yeah, I mean, we have so much to get into this. This is going to be a lot show. We have we have matchups today. Starts of the week today. NFL news galore.
Injury news galore and then a recap of the game, which we have to do. Which includes injury news galore. Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's absolutely wild. A reminder of the community over there at join the foot.com, hop in there. The season is starting. Get access to the ultimate dashboard and a million in season tools and you can support the show that way. But we can jump right in because I know it's going to be a long show. It was 13 to 10. Seattle beat the Patriots. The game started with Sam Darnold being injured.
almost instantaneously. First drive. The team has come out and been optimistic about the outlook for him, but we don't have a final report on the injury and duration of absence. Drew Locke ended up 16 for 22. I thought he did a great job. I was actually impressed with after the jitters of, I think, the first two drives, I feel like he settled down and basically executed the only offense you needed to have when you're at home in Seattle.
I thought the play calling of McDonald was kind of, like the decision making on fourth downs and stuff was very conservative. But in the end, it just, he executed exactly what they needed to do, which was don't take too many risks. Keep the game close. Let your defense come alive with the 12, right? The fans got on their feet. And then Drake May made the appropriate amount of mistakes to lose that game.
Yeah, or the Seahawks made the appropriate amount of amazing defensive plays either way. I mean, the nice thing about Drew Locke is he said after the game. He's like, I know our team. I know the players that we have. My biggest, like the only thing I needed to do was protect the ball. Yeah, I mean, I thought they were going to actually win the game there. They were moving the ball enough where, you know, as somebody who thought Seattle would win it, and then seeing them, I did not think they were going to win it once Darnell went out. And then they come back and it seems like they had it.
the penalties, offensive snaps where they had a chance on the goal line. I mean, there are so many things to talk about in this game. A lot of takeaways. I mean, you had Drake May's performance, obviously, from a fantasy perspective, 178 yards in a touchdown, three picks. I believe in the last seven games played. He has seven touchdown, seven picks and seven picks and seven fumbles. A.J. Brown goes down. Seven seven. Seven.
That's a jackpot. That's pretty lucky. That's normally good. Jack poo. Oh, no, Jack poop. Jack poop. But, I mean, so, like, all respect to the Patriots for what they did last year, they had the easiest schedule since 1999. It ended up that way. They won their games. They deserve, I mean. And in the games, Drake May looked.
4,400 yards. I don't think Drake May is going to be, like, I'm not taking last night's performance as Drake May is not a good quarterback or he's not going to be a good fantasy quarterback. This was in Seattle, your number one new wide receiver goes down. This was a, this is the number one scoring fantasy defense last year in Seattle. I took it as actually the opposite of what a lot.
I watched that game, and I thought Drake May, he didn't play that. I know he threw three picks. I do not think he played that bad. But I don't think he played that bad. That drop from Romeo Dobbs that was a humiliating drop. Are you talking about Romeo Dobbs who had fewer receptions than Lan Larison, Eli Raradon, DiMario Douglas, AJ Brown, Hunter, Henry, Ramondre Stevenson, and Matt Collins? How many guardian caps was he wearing? Four. It was unbelievable.
I saw a clip on on Instagram just talking about like when it's after a mistake. It looks so stupid. And it does. But yeah, AJ Brown going down. But the thing is is that because it implies a bigger brain. So a mistake means that you're dumber? It just, it looks like you're a bobblehead. He had as bad of a debut as you could have had. Yeah. And the thing is is for fantasy purposes, Drake May ran the ball seven times for 47 yards. It was like, oh, okay, the wheels are going to work.
Now, I expect him to be without A.J. Brown for a handful of weeks. Yeah, we can kind of cover the injuries in this game right now, which is A.J. Brown looks like a high ankle sprain. The x-rays were negative. There was some concern about a fibula fracture. That didn't happen. Romeo Dobbs, the one contribution he did provide last night was a locker room update about A.J. Brown, which said he looked really good and seems like he's going to be okay. Left at a walking boot. If it's a high ankle sprain from last year, we know it's usually three games.
I mean, this is one of the risks. I, you know, with, you know, AJ Brown's been banged up before, but you're an older receiver recovery times might be a little bit. I mean, Jason's kind of sighing with the, Jason was not in a good place because in part, like, he's got AJ Brown on a lot of teams. We all liked AJ Brown. Yeah, there's nothing you can control about that. Yeah, it sucks. And fantasy MVPs are not one in weeks one through four either. So.
You know, last year, this happened to George Kittle. I can say, guillotine leagues are lost in week one. What is? Guillotine leagues. Well, that, that is, yeah, that is true. Our Chops, our Chop League, my feature was the incredible stack of Drake May. Oh, no, that's your team? Oh, I'm.
host, bro. I'm done. Week one, I will be out. Maybe. So there'll be other injuries. You can always be surprised. Well, I can tell you this. Look at my projection. I think you would be happier to be in your case than in my case because we play in very few important leagues. We try to keep it to a middle. I'm out in League of Record. I've made that, you know, from Get Go. You are not out. Stop it. No, no. In League of Record? I mean, you're zero and zero right now. But my point is,
In, you know, we've got this League of Shadows. We've got our listener league. I've got the Megalabole. Those are like the rest of my leagues. Right. AJ Brown, AJ Brown and AJ Brown and A.J. Brown and all three. You don't know something funny. I'm going to share a little story from our League of Record really quickly. Yesterday, and we're going to talk about a Brock Bowers surprise, surgery, an iscus multi-week. We'll talk about it. So he goes down. People have been trying to trade for him in our league. And so I hear from the manager who's like,
He's starting to kind of tongue in cheek send some offers over to the Brock Bowers manager because he had already been trying to get him. And now he's like, oh, I've got Kelsey. I can send you to help you out. That was the A.J. Brown manager. So during the middle of the day, he's kind of, you know, making light of the situation or maybe trying to take advantage. By night, he didn't have A.J. Brown. I mean, this is fantasy football at its best. I want to talk about both running backs for a moment. First, let's start with Judarian Price.
This was a rookie debut, if I've ever seen one, in the sense that 10 for 52 looked very fast. Yeah, he looked good. When he had, here's what my highlights were, and you share yours. When contact was made, he seemed to fall forward. He seemed to fight through the end of the tackle. I liked seeing that. He also made the historical Reggie Bush mistake, which is it works to bounce it outside in college, and then I try to bounce it outside in the NFL, and whoops, I'm not faster.
Yeah, I mean, that's obviously going to be a common and frequent rookie problem. The other part of the rookie issue here, I thought he looked great. I really did. I thought, you know, as a runner, he was fast. He had the juice. George Alani had eight carries to his 10. And George Alani did nothing with them. 29 yards. I think you mean George Salami. Yeah. Oh, I apologize. George Salami. Thank you. And, you know, it's.
It's a little frightening. You can make, it's just, confirm your priors, right? He's a rookie. Week one, they're going to, they're obviously going to get him more work as it goes on. The least trust you're going to have in him. Exactly. Or, we love a committee. This is a committee. They had the MVP of the Super Bowl Ken Bone Walker, who was way more efficient. They said, no, come out. We got Charbonnet. And this is. Manuel Wilson was in on the goal line. They are committed, committed to a true.
50-50 times share, which, you know, last year the Seahawks were a great team, great defense, great run game, irrelevant running backs. Like Ken Bone Walker and Charbonnet both through the fantasy year. I mean, they were like... Sort of a coin flip situation. Yeah, you weren't excited to start them. They were someone that you could throw in your lineup and get the running back 24 on a week, but like that is a scary proposition going forward. I did like that he had two catches just to see him involved in that facet of the game. I test.
I agree. I thought price looked very good. The, and I, you cannot be. We need, we, we, we need far more games than this. Yes. You can't be top 12, though, if this is the issue, though, is 10 for 52 for one running back and eight for 29. That literal, that's Ken Bone Walker and Charbonate. That was, that was the box score from last year. That's what would happen. So that is. That will be dumb, but it was dumb last year. Yes.
And Charbonnet will return. That's the bigger story for me. I think if this was the back field. I think Salami just goes back in the freezer. Oh, look at Salami up there. Here's the thing is that Charbonnet is going to return. They're going to try Charbonnet more than Halani. He's going to perform better than Halani, even though he's not the most efficient back. He is a more well-rounded back. But again, if you believe that price has the juice and the team is smart, which they are, the utilization should improve.
I feel like I'm looking at a mirror right now. Yeah, what you were saying all last year about Kenneth Walker. This is me last year. I want to talk. Oh, go ahead, Jay. I'm on the side that I believe Judarian Price will not become a bell cow for this team. No, I don't think bell cow is in the cards. I think I think committee back with explosive plays is in the card, which is probably RB17 to 25 peak. Unfortunately. I mean.
Is he as good as Kenneth Walker? Do you believe he's as good as Kenneth Walker last year? I don't know. I don't know that. But my point is. He looked great, though. Kenneth Walker was the running back 22 last year. And so if he is as good as Kenneth Walker. Yeah. Emmanuel Wilson at the goal line, even though that was the delay of game, I believe. Yep, it was. But just seeing that alignment. You thought you were going to get a grand salami right there. I did. Yeah, I did.
I was, and I told you, I was watching on the phone. And I was like, well, I know that's not price. No. And, but that's, like, that's devastating. To see, if you're saying it's not even going to be Holani on the goal line, it's going to be Wilson. I know that's just one snap, but you got to, you don't want to overreact, but you do want to. And I'm, I'm going to be your. You want to alter. Yeah, no, so that was a huge story. J.S.N. had a huge game. Oh, he's so good. Eight for 122 and a touchdown with Drew Locke.
Yeah, and his touchdown was. It was awesome. That was ridiculous. He's just slippery. Like Patriots, what are you doing? He is slippery fish in the secondary. He is slippery. There was, there was just a little play. He never looks as like dynamic as the OBJ or like. Exactly. He doesn't seem as explosive as Jemar Chase, but you watch it with the ball in his hands. He just goes like, and he gets extra yards all the time. And I'm going to say something. I know, again, this, you could, you can chalk it under confirming priors. I'm just going to tell you facts and information. And you can draw whatever you want.
The entire earth wanted to pile on to Romandre Stevenson last night. I'm going to tell you the facts about Remandre Stevenson what I believe, and you can do whatever you want with it. There was never an argument this offseason that Remandre Stevenson was going to be a good pick because he's explosive like Trayvion Henderson. Last night, Remondy Stevenson scored 13.8 fantasy points in our league of record. That is more than Drake May scored. He was the second highest score or the highest score on the Patriots. It wasn't efficient, but here's the facts I want to tell you. Number one.
From Andre Stevenson had 60 of 71 offensive steps for the team. Number two, 50 of his 51 rushing yards happened after contact. Number three, five times he was hit in the backfield where their offensive line did nothing. If you remove the five times he was met in the backfield, because I went one by one, he ran for 4.69 a carry on the rest of his carries. He caught five passes in the offense. And we'll be catching more without A.J. Brown.
Sure. And the Seattle Seahawks were the number three rushing defense in the NFL last year, giving up an average of 3.6 per carry to all running backs that they faced. To me, if you want to, you know, let me get the effect here. If you want to go, you want to give him Andre the great plotting award of the year and you want to bury your head in the sand about how often he was used, it's only going to be better than this.
