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Surprise LIVE Episode! Bounce Back Players + Ask The Ballers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/6
Surprise LIVE Episode! Bounce Back Players + Ask The Ballers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/6
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134 passagesFind Primal Kitchen buffalo sauce at grocery stores nationwide or on primalcitchen.com. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Every football fan is different. Some won't wash their lucky mustard-stained jersey until the season's over. Some insist they can't sit down on third downs and some pick their favorite team because, I don't know, just like football fandom.
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What's this? Surprise, suckers. Little bonus episode of the show. Welcome in one and all. Mike, right, Jay, some more Andy Holloway of the fantasy footballers podcast. We were bored. You know, we're like, hey, guys, why don't we just give the people another show right now out of the blue? Just an extra show. And not only that, we are, we're doing something unique today. We're recording a bonus episode. We've got bounce back players.
We've got some NFL news to talk about, and no one saw this coming. But we actually have live questions on the show today. So we're paying attention to the chat on the various live platforms, and we will be answering questions that you have as they come in. The chat is very much on Jason just cannot.
keep his mouth shut. Yeah, baby. You're welcome for everyone who clicked that bell, turned it on, and is with us right now. It's exciting to have the Foot Clan part of the show here. So a live mailbag on the episode today. We have lots to talk about fantasy football drafts, rookie drafts coming very soon, NFL draft in less than three weeks. The excitement level, I would say it rises by...
multiple percentage points per day yeah i was going by the hour like every hour that gets closer i get more excited learn more about the prospects i think you need to build one of those uh you know like construction paper oh the chain links the chains the paper chains and cut cut one off every day closer to the any excuse to build one of those things is the we just don't build them enough could you do it by the hour
Could you just make it like every hour? That she would be so long. It would be glorious. You would be making that up until the draft. That's true. It would take way longer to make it than it would to cut it. Well, a quick reminder, Ultimate draftKit.com. If you want to be prepped up for the draft for all of the rookie breakdowns, we have three releases of the dynasty paths. That's part of the UDK Plus. There's one that happens before the combine, one after the combine. Those have been updated.
And then there will be an update right after the NFL draft. A few days after, right? I mean, we kind of get it all, all the ducks in a row, Mike. That is correct. Dude, I'm so pumped for this upcoming release. The draft is going to be incredible. It's going to really shake up the rankings, at least not the top three of the wide receivers. But after that, you know, who do the bills take?
We kind of alluded to that of with the Stefan Diggs trade, that whoever the bills take, they're going to skyrocket in value. And it will be that what do you do with a wide receiver, a first round wide receiver who's taken in the later 20s versus maybe someone who is taken in the teens to not as an optimal situation, but your evaluation of, well, that player's better.
But this situation is better so that it's always incredibly fun to break those down. We brought up Cincinnati, and it's like, okay, they don't even have to trade T. Higgins to draft their next partner in crime with Jamar Chase. And what does that do to rookie picks, right? You have somebody probably waiting in the wings for one year of T. Higgins to go away, and then that player can step up. I mean, they lost Tyler Boyd this offseason. So some big quarterback wide receiver combinations that could happen in the draft.
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We've got a lot planned for the draft. We'll let you know about it very soon, hopefully next week. And then you can follow us on X at the FF Ballers. Now, today's quick question, we're going to have some fun with it because we'll be breaking it down, but we're also going to post this live, I believe, on the YouTube chat, on Twitter, and then we'll go ahead and let you know what the people are saying, whether they agree with our takes. But it is a question about bounce back candidates.
for 2024. Very important. And the question is which of these four players are going to have the biggest bounce back campaign in the 2024 season? But they are four names that are pretty interesting. And I saw a tweet from one of them this morning about the next chapter in his career. So one of the four names, Austin Eckler of the Washington Commanders. This is a player that last year.
Running back 23 at 11 points per game coming off of the previous two years where he was the running back three and running back one. So Austin Echler, Josh Jacobs, moving to the Packers. He's got a good situation. Was also one of the least explosive players in the NFL last year, ended at RB 18. Looked pretty downhill on his career. He looked like Mike prophesied in offseason where he didn't work out. Fat Thor. It's like you don't work out. You don't work out.
That's the truth. I see what you said. It's because let's be honest, how easy is it to not work out? Super easy. I do it all the time. Yeah, I'm like I'm so good at pro level not workouter. I don't do the walking or pretty, the exercise. For our show, don't work out does work out.
You know what I mean? Well, yeah, it's more time behind the spreadsheets. That's right. You get a mental sweat. Thank you. Thank you. You got your gains in the algorithm? That's right. Yeah, what does bulk season look like? Bulk season is just another tab, man. So when you're one of the psychos who has, you're like, owl, how many tabs you got open right now? Owl. Oh, that's scary. There's 92 in this one. Oh, my God, what are you doing? But I have two browser windows. There's 48 in the other.
It's that's absolute insanity. You can't possibly tell what's happening in any tab. You can't see what any tab is. You're a monster. So you have like almost 140 tabs open. Yeah, that's right. What are you doing? That's not, you can't exist in that world. No. That's the equivalent of the, they should do TLC hoarder show on tab users. Like, that's a house that does not function. If you accidentally close a window, owl.
Do you freak out and immediately do like the reopen with every tab that I had? There's no doubt. He's giggling back. I do. I do. I don't want to lose anything. There's no way you can find your eighth tab open. You already lost everything. When you, when you have created the haystack, you have to find the needle. Listen, you do you. I'll do me. So Austin Echler, bounce back candidate. Josh Jacobs, bounce back candidate. And then let's move on to.
Another player that will be hotly debated all offseason long, Cooper Cup, who had back-to-back wide receiver one seasons in points per game and ended up at 26 with an injury-riddled campaign last year. The headlines went to Puka Nakua in the offense, Kairn Williams in the offense. Cooper Cup just kind of got lost, and I don't know how much.
You know, how often he was playing hurt. I know that was a part of the season, but this was wide receiver 26 in points per game. What was the opening, the preseason injury? Was it a sprained? Yeah, that happened right before drafts. Yeah, but where he did miss the first four weeks and, you know, he was coming off the injury. The first two games were actually sensational off of that. But that's at least something to keep in mind. Not that the guy doesn't seem to get injured all the time.
Yeah, well, I mean, he spent the last two previous years finishing as the wide receiver one in points per game. I've got some good data on Cooper Cup when we come back to him. What's the final name, Andy? Well, by the way, Cooper Cup almost 31 years old as well, that'll be factored in. Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert of the Los Angeles Chargers who Mike before the show exasperidly exasperid. No, that's not a word. Wait, wait, wait, no, don't tell him. Don't bail it on. Try it again.
Before the show, Mike said. How do he say it? No, I don't think the word I was saying is a real word. You can't say exasperatedly. Oh, yeah, you can. I just did it. Yeah, there. But is that a real word? No, no. It's real now. I said disgruntily on the last show. That's not a word either. I try to add an L.Y to just about anything. Justin Herbert, Mike before the show commented that. He was the quarterback.
It looks like a real word to me. Exasperatedly. Exasperatedly. You bet he did. An extremely annoyed way, especially because you cannot do anything to improve a situation. Yes. Would you say that you said it exasperatedly? I don't know that I was annoyed. I was more shocked. Okay. Shockly. Shockedly. Shocked-ed-diddly. That he is the QB14. That's his ADP right now in basketball. Justin Herbert, the next.
big quarterback as of just a few years ago, not even being drafted as a one right now. So what's fun is we have those four names, Echler Jacobs Cup, Herbert. We'll break it down. We'll give our picks. But I'm watching a poll live. Oh, is it already up? Well, in the YouTube chat, every single vote, it just moves immediately. So like right now, immediately into the vote, Josh Jacobs is at 54%.
Cooper Cups at 26%. Herbert at 17 and Echler, the belief is proportional to the pain. It's at 5%, which is the amount of people that were happy with anything he did last year. Yeah. So my big question, what I wanted to know coming into this show wasn't even our picks. And it wasn't even who the Foot Clan thought was going to bounce back the most. The only thing I wanted to know was how low is the percentage going to be on Austin Echler? And this was slower than I thought.
Sway the vote. See if you can make a move. I don't know what your opinion is on these four names. So here's the name that I was really interested in, did a bunch of research on. Cooper Cup was the name I was curious about. He's been awesome. He was injured last year. He played some games without Cooper Cup last year. So it was like, I remember him without Matthew Stafford. He did play several games without himself. That's true. He missed a handful of games.
But I wanted to know just the truth. I genuinely was like, did he have a really bad season? Did he have a really good season? What's the actual legitimate truth? He had 10 games last season total where he played 95% of snaps or more. I'm taking out games that Matthew Stafford did not play.
And I'm taking out games that Cooper Cup was injured in and didn't really. So how many, how many did he play with Stafford at 95%? With Stafford at 95 was 10 full games. That's a lot of games. That's the majority of the season. And his 17-game pace over those 10 games specifically would be 147 targets for 95 receptions, 1152 yards, and 8.5 touchdowns. That's not bad.
That is not a wide receiver one. That is not a wide receiver one, let alone the wide receiver one. In fact, that is 12.7, half PPR points per game. That would have basically been identical to what Amari Cooper did last year as the wide receiver 16 in points per game. So given the age, the rise of Pooka Nakua and the...
