Surprise LIVE Episode! Bounce Back Players + Ask The Ballers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/6

obvious downturn in production. I don't think Cooper Cup is irrelevant. I've drafted him plenty in like the fourth round when he's there in best ball. But he's certainly done being the, I don't think there's a bounce back to where he goes to 2022 Cooper Cup levels. Let me ask you a slightly different question. What are the odds then? Is he not your pick of these four?

I think based on, after I did that research, if I said who has the chance to bounce back, my pick would probably be Josh Jacobs. That's my pick as well. But my kind of sideways question on Cooper Cup isn't, can he be the wide receiver one again? It's what percentage chance do you have with a healthy Cooper Cup that he is the better pick between him and Puga Nakua?

Zero. Oh, well, wait, wait, zero? No, no, no. You're factoring in where you're drafting them as well, right? Because then certainly. Both. How about where he's factored in, but also the ability to put up more total fantasy points? If they were both the same cost, there's no chance Cooper Cup out produces Pooka Nakua in my opinion. So you're saying statistically you see no chance for Cooper Cup to have better stats. Right. That's what I would say. Okay, Mike, do you have it at zero percent chance? No, no, I wouldn't give zero.

Cooper Cup has been... All-Pro. He's been a fantastic player. Last year, when actually healthy, had some great games as well. You know, the first two back, wide receiver 12, wide receiver 3, then kind of has a down tick and then has another three game stretch, wide receiver 21, 5, and 4. So I think that the greatness is still there for Cooper Cup. So I would not say it's as...

At even cost, it's a 0% chance for Cup versus Puka. I would lean Puka Nakua just because of the, him being, Cooper Cup playing at 31 this year is wild. It does not feel like he has been in the league long enough to be 31, which he came in as an older prospect. I'd put the percentage chance for.

Cooper Cup to have the better season than Puka, I'd put it at, let's go like 35-ish, 35 to 40. Okay, so that, I mean, that's pretty high compared to zero. Yeah, it's infinitely higher. Jacobs is the pick to me, and it's pretty simple because Josh Jacobs is at an age where you're still a prime running back. And so I think he's 26 years old. He's on that edge. He's been given the opportunity.

on a good team and a good offense. With a terrible depth chart. With a terrible depth chart. How dare you? Well, no, this is the same as this is like. Still standing up for the villain? No, I'm going to be honest with you. It's identical to what happened in Kansas City. Both Kansas City and Green Bay said, we'll just bring Clyde and A.J. Dillon back to be nobody's. So that makes Pacheco and Josh Jacobs, the guy. And so, you know,

What's the real floor for Josh Jacobs? In a healthy season, I think he's an RBE 12 floor in Green Bay. He's going to see so much volume. And targets. He'll see a lot of targets. Everything. I mean, the way that the Green Bay Packers talk about, specifically coach LaFleur, talking about Aaron Jones. I don't know if you guys saw a video recently came out, and it was, I don't.

know the age of it so maybe it'd come out earlier but it was talking about like what is kind of like who's that dude no that was very recently yeah and it was it was aaron jones like they the team loved him the coaching staff and i mean clearly the the gm did not like the whatever the money situation was so for them to move away from erin jones i think is such a a large move uh just everything like

you know, emotionally for this team to bring Jacobs in. The Raiders didn't want to lose. He's going to be the guy. They didn't want to lose Jacobs. And the Packers didn't want to lose Jones. That's the interesting thing about the offseason because you can say, well, they went out and got the guy. But then you know, like, if you listen to the head coach of the Raiders, they're like, that hurt losing Jacobs. Like we wanted him here. Can't believe we lost him. And then the similar thing happens with Jones. And there was a cool.

quote recently from LaFleur talking specifically about Josh Jacobs and what they saw in him and why they grabbed him. And for fantasy football purposes, what was so great about it is he said that he could be used a lot more in the passing game, that he's got the options to do some really good stuff. Like he sees on tape, some really good stuff that was underutilized in the passing. So that's like he's actually coming out saying, hey, guys, we're going to throw the ball to him in better ways than.

the Raiders did. And that's just great for fantasy. A pass, a target is worth so much more than a carry. By the way, I'm reading the live chat and somebody said Andy has Josh Jacobs and Dynasty. That must be why I'm saying that. I do not. He traded him away. I do not have Josh Jacobs. I just think of these candidates. Like, I don't have hope for Echler. Who does?

Who does? Oh, who has Josh Jacobs in fantasy? Come on. Really? Really? Go back. Is it the guy that has the number one pick? I will say this. If this was reversed and it was who, what are the percentage chances of any of these guys busting? Just being done. Do you win? Washed? I could see it happening easily for Echler. I don't see it happening for Cooper Cup. Despite me saying like zero percent chance that he is.

you know, on a per game basis more valuable than Puka, because I think Puka has taken that roll over. Josh Jacobs, I see a route that he could be done. Like, his efficiency, his efficiency was so bad this last year that if it continues to get worse, and they've got A.J. Dylan, and then they times share it, and he's not what Aaron Jones was, and he's just bad. This is basically a one-year deal if he's bad, the way the contract is set. Yeah, I mean.

He was very bad last year, and you can make excuses for him with quarterbacks and head coaching changes and the offseason, or you can just take it at face value and say, look, there's a risk there. We need to take a quick break, and then I'm going to come back and talk about where these poll results are and get your final answers. What's up, Foot Clan? You are confident and disciplined and focused on details, just like everyone here at the fancy footballers, right? Those are words you used to describe us. In other words...

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Cups at 30, Jacobs at 49%, and then Austin Eckler at 6%. I do want to talk about Justin Herbert for a second. I think there are two situations right now in fantasy football where the pendulum is swinging too far. And I'm really, I'm going to bring one up, obviously it's Justin Herbert, where I think, you know, Diggs leaves the bills and nobody cares about how it impacts Josh Allen.

The bills became a run-first team, and nobody cares because we have a few games of him being fine in a run-first team. We need to give more credit, I think, to Justin Herbert. This is one of the top armed talents in football, evasive in the pocket, can run the football for two or three hundred yards, might do it more with this new offense. We don't like the current way. We can't draw the map right now in our heads of how Justin Herbert's season goes well. And so because of that,

I think the pendulum has swung too far just because we can't say, okay, you know, we don't like Q, and Josh Palmer's not a one, and they like to run the football. I think Justin Herbert is a very, very good quarterback. And so I think that pendulum might have swung too far. But how far? Because he's being drafted as the wide receiver 14 in basketball. What is the ceiling case? The ceiling case for Justin Herbert is top seven. Okay.

it's not that I think he will get there. It's just that's where I think the pendulum has swung too far. I think people have discounted the possibility that Justin Herbert is still a top five, top six quarterback in production. I still think that could happen. He could be efficient enough. He could throw 35 touchdowns. He could run the ball enough where that happens. I'm not saying it will. But I do want to bring up real quick. I do think the pendulum swung too far on Drake London.

Oh, look in the mirror. Yeah, you take responsibility. I no longer believe that Drake London will factor into anything I do this season because the pendulum is swinging too far. He is the new hotness. Everyone's excited about the potential. If you went and broke down, everybody not named Justin Jefferson that's been associated with Kirk Cousins historically, his ones, it doesn't look good, guys.

He had the best season he ever had from a one. Pierre Garsohn? Did he have Garsohn? Yeah, he did. But he was always double digits or well beyond in fantasy finish with Kirk Cousins. The best finish with Kurt Cousins, I believe was Adam Thielen one time was wide receiver seven. Otherwise, it's all been double digits. So I'm just saying like if he's priced at something that has been only done by Justin Jefferson, you might be in trouble. Yeah, that just comes down to, you know, what is Drake London? Is Drake London a

He's not Jefferson. Is he a top 10 NFL wide receiver or is he not? And right now we have guesses, you know, hypothesis, but we're going to find out this year. You're just saying that you put your percentage odds of him being that not as high as the people do. His draft costs has gone so wild that I'm now going to work actively to lower it. That's what I'm saying. But anyways, back to these four. My final answer was Jacobs. Jason said Jacobs.

Mike, why don't you put a ball on it? Give us your name. Because it says biggest bounce back, that is the technical language of the question. I will say Cooper Cup. Because Josh Jacobs, in points per game, was the running back 18. Being drafted as the nine, it's not, I don't think it's a large of a jump. So he still helped people last year, whereas Cooper Cup actively didn't. So the bounce back is larger. Cup hurt people because it was just so.

excuse me, so hot, so cold. And the missed games. I mean, as someone who had Cooper Cup a lot of places, what really hurt was just starting the season without him for so long that it was like, oh, this is, you know, my season's off to a terrible start. Yeah, and to prove my point here, I'm looking at the live chat because we're going to be doing some live mailbag on the show today. And it's, you know, London top five wide receiver. So.

You know, that's the kind of... Hey, people aren't pumped. Let him be pumped. And also, Andy's losing his mind because I said something negative. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, you can't take a player at a position that it's like your percentage chance is going to be very, very low that he hits. I'd rather take some other players. Like, I don't know, bounce back candidates, Garrett Wilson and Jalen Waddle at reduced costs, right? Yeah. Fantasy is not about drafting guys.

and then hoping that they perform up to that level. Yeah, when you're drafting at where Drake London is going, is your margin for error is very small. We are getting some updated news that we should discuss briefly, just that there are some additions to the Rashi Rice case. Well, don't we have the news drop? Yeah, let's get into it. Oh, yeah. News and notes from around the league. Show goes live and gets out of host. Thank you, Mike. What's going on over here? I need those drops.