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NFL Draft Breakdown: NFC Winners & Losers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 5/6
NFL Draft Breakdown: NFC Winners & Losers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 5/6
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Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Rar. Thursday, was that a sarcastic? No, I was just giving him a spicy rar back. Well, Jay Gris is in a great mood, Mike. Welcome into the fantasy footballers podcast. Yeah, I imagine he's probably still levitating. Bears fans were very happy to have received the Hopkins drop on the last episode. You earned it. Team Chicago.
And so Jason, yeah, yeah, Jason is not here today, but I know exactly what he's doing. The bear? No, Jason. The bear's right there. No, the bear, he does what he always does. Oh. I know exactly what Jason's doing right now. He needed the day off. Yeah. Because he has been trying, he's spending the day trying to trade Devante Adams. That's what he's doing today. That is not fault, but you're not wrong.
But let me say this. Raise your hand if you've received an offer for Devante Adams. The producer's hands go up. I know how much Jason respects me because I have not received a Devante Adams trade offer. Unlike you, clowns who he just rubs feces on his opinion of you. I don't know if that's what it is or not. When's the last time you've done a trade with me or Jason? Oh, we've done some traits. We've done some dynasty traits. Have you? Yeah.
Remember we had a big one involving Carlos Hyde. I think we trade to Chris Herndon back and forth. Yeah, so high stakes trade. Just what you're saying. Yeah. But no, Jason is out there. He's trying to figure out the storyline. They get some Devante Adams level value. Current, but right now. Current value. As if Aaron Rogers was not a threat to leave the team. It's not good. It's not good, Green Bay. He would, he's trying to not be.
Andy Holloway holding the James Robinson bag in Dynasty. That's what he's trying to do. He's trying to get out ahead of it, which in my defense, I tried to do as well. I tried to send James Robinson to Brooks to Brooks into Brooks to. Brooks is too smart for that. I did not have the respect for you, Mike. Ah, yes. And to Al Borland. And neither of you accepted. How dare you? I would not feel bad for you. But good luck. If you got the...
Let's your, let's just hedge it. Because here, if you've been living under Iraq and you've been missing all the Aaron Rogers news, this fire, this is not smoke. I mean, just kind of billowing out of a bush on the side of the road. There's, it's every single day. Something salacious and juicy comes out every single day talking about Aaron Rogers moving on from the Green Bay Packers. Or he saying he wants to move on.
Whether or not the team will allow that and trade him. Does he retire? I do not know. But news of reports of quotes keep coming out every single day. Where are you at, Andy? Because this is all just the most ridiculous insane speculation that's going on. If you have Green Bay Packers right now, are you hedging? Are you trying to get out? I'm taking a day off of work to try to trade them away. So you are very concerned that.
that Rogers is telling the truth that he will either be traded or he's going to stop playing football. I think pride is a son of a gun, Mike. Oh, I think. Rogers has that. And I think Rogers has the pride that comes with three MVP awards and being the... He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a wealthy man. He's the cornerstone of the team. Yeah. And I think the franchise decided to make a pronouncement last NFL draft.
that they were in charge. The Jordan Love Pick to me was, we run the team. And that was stupid. I mean, it's super stupid. It was Jerry Krause-level stupid. Which he, allegedly Aaron Rogers, referred to his general manager as Jerry Krause, the infamous general manager for the Chicago Bulls who essentially chased Michael Jordan out of town. Yeah. Put the team together, then broke it up. We'll talk more about it in the news. Okay. We'll pause for a moment because we have something.
to announce. Oh, yes, we do. You ready for this? The listener league, the promised listener league spot, the random giveaway. Yep. For everybody that pre-ordered the ultimate draft kit, we have a winner. Are you ready? I'm ready. Oh, we have a drum roll. The winner is. Brandon? What pronunciation are you going to go with? Tabit. Oh, I was hoping you'd go with to butt, but. It reads like to butt.
But you have won, Brandon. You're a winner and a loser all in the same time. I'm sure you've never heard any jokes. Well, he'll probably kick our butt. About to butt. Yeah. He gets to join the listener league in attempt. Yeah, that's to butt. Also, all the other ultimate draft week prize pack winners, which is the Clyde Edwards, the Lear jersey, Devante Adams, the video draft review, all that stuff. We picked winners for those as well, and they have been emailed.
So if you won. Check your junk. Okay. Just saying. All right. You say that and stand alone with it. Thank you for supporting us by subscribing on Apple Podcasts, following the show, reviewing on Spotify, Google Podcasts, wherever you listen. YouTube.com slash the fantasy football. There's a lot of people subscribe and even just do the listening on YouTube. But you should do the watching as well.
I mean, I guess you don't have to. I'm not going to. Counts as a view either way. I'm not bossing these people around. You want to listen on YouTube? Okay. And you can find us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. Before we get into buy sell, I wanted to announce to all of the UDK players, truthers. Yes. Buyers. The startup rookie rankings are now in the UDK. That is correct. And they've been updated. And they will continue to be updated because the ultimate draft kit is a living, breathing, ever-changing.
uh tool for your draft preparation i have made the decision this year though i only ranked 15 rookies just 15 yeah because the other ones are bad you you've drawn a line in the sand behind i said i refuse to rank you it's cadarius tony ends the list and then you're just no one else after that oh the mysterious cadarius tony what are you going to be nothing oh you go don't say that he's on my team i know i know now we'll see i i think he could um
He could help the team. Let's put it that way. I don't know if he helps your team. We'll see. Time for some buy sell. Buy or sell. Presented by pristine auction. Buy or sell, Mike. Buy or sell that Darren Waller. That Darren Waller will be overdrafted in 2021. His current average draft position is the 303 in best ball leagues. 1196 yards, nine touchdowns.
146 targets, which was number one amongst tight ends last season. I know that a lot of people, I think us as well, came into the year last year saying, well, they went out in Brian Edwards and Henry Ruggs and maybe Darren Waller absorbed too many targets the year before and it'll come down and it didn't. He led all tight ends. Is 303 too expensive? Will he be overdrafted? No, he will not.
He will not, because of the positional advantage that he will continue to bring to the table. What did the Raiders do for the wide receiver position during the draft? The answer is nothing. No, they added, they lost Nelson Aguilar. Right. And they added. Johnny B. Right. Johnny Brown there now? Yes. And they added Mr. Kenyon Drake. Look, they, I know. And Al is pointing out, Willie Sneed.
The point is they really have done nothing. And this is the same crew that they had last year. Yeah, Ruggs and Brian Edwards, a year older, a year more, got the rookie year out of the way, make that second year jump as a wide receiver. But Darren Waller is the offense. It runs through him. He's still going to see a bunch of targets. As far as we're projecting, it's still going to be Derek Carr as the quarterback for the Vegas Raiders. And I think that he is absolutely worth.
that early third round pick and lock it in. No gambling, no messing around of hoping you picked the one breakout tight end. You're done. You're locked in. There's Havton, have-nots at tight-in. There's Kelsey Kittle, Andrews, Waller, or in the opposite order. And then there's hope, prayer, dreams. When hitting on that tight end, hitting on the tight end, like if Adam Troutman comes out and becomes one of these guys, that will feel.
better like you're getting to call the shot and really hitting on the tight end but you know that the probability of them turning into someone like Darren Waller is what 2% yeah most of them end up like Jake butt yeah it's exactly yes it's actually Jake is Jake Tabut okay but but you're just your chances of hitting and getting weekly production is so low as soon as you get outside those top guys and Waller is Waller is not
going tight end or touchdown dependent he gets targets he gets yards and we saw the bounce back that he gets to or that he finally had some touchdown regression in a positive way hit hit on nine scores last year yeah i mean it was an incredible season so if you believed it was paid out in his performance on the field just to put it to the test before i officially weigh in other players going in that exact same area in best ball drafts right now
Miles Sanders, I trust that you would take Darren Wall over Miles Sanders. Every single time. Keenan Allen, though? Michael Thomas, Alan Robinson? Yeah, it's tough to pass on names of guys like that. Noggy, Dobbins. But it's the third round, so I've already had my two picks. And at that point, I'd be willing to pass on those players to get someone like Darren Waller on the team. All right, I am going to sell that he will be overdrafted. I'm going to agree with you, Mike.
We saw last year worth their weight in gold, having the positional advantage. In our keeper league, good luck out there. Travis Kelsey, I mean, we have three keepers per team. Travis Kelsey, George Kittle, Darren Waller, all locked up, all kept. Yeah, and this is not back to the years. Is this why Kyle Pitts will be drafted higher than he should be? But these are not the years of you have to spend a first round pick to get gronk.
You're spending a third to have a player who's putting up, you know, pretty comparable production to Gronk. Sixth most targets amongst wide receivers if Waller was in the wide receiver group. That's so fabulous. All right, that was by yourself from our friends at pristine auction. Pristine auction.com use code ballers. Get a $10 credit towards your first sports memorabilia purchase. Ballers. Let's jump into the news. News and notes from around the league presented by Sleeper.
Green Bay fans just, I know we like the sleeper app, but you may need to hide from whatever pops through there in the next couple of months. It's a bare market right now. For Rogers News? Yes. They're coming. I'm surprised that Al's even in here today. I mean, are you doing okay, Al? I'm sure you're on the microphone. I'm hanging in there. Yeah. And you're pretty pro Rogers being your quarterback, right? I wish he'd want to be our quarterback. Oh.
I want you to want me. Okay, but what about this? I want you to want me to want you. What if he doesn't want to be your quarterback, but he's still your quarterback? I'd probably rather see him go. You spoiled Green Bay fans with your Brett Farves and your Aaron Rogers. You have no idea. You don't want. Toxic locker rooms are no good. You have no idea what it's a toxic. You can feel my locker room with poison if you fits in a Hall of Fame quarterback throwing the ball.
Wasn't it toxic last year when they went 13 and 3 or something? I don't think so. What was their record last year? Something like that. I've moved on. Well, look, we will put a ball on the earlier discussion here because the news NFL network came out. Mike Garofalo saying, you know, Rogers told Green Bay free agents he wouldn't be back with the team in 2021. I also heard that he said that kind of after the Jordan Love move last year, not, you know.
