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Mike and Jason say absent Andy is the show's dad and use his absence as permission for more fun. Andy has lost another tooth, this time in front; Toothless and Lloyd Christmas become possible animated-character clues, and the desk assures listeners he will be repaired.
The hosts continue trying to pronounce Travis Etienne as Travis A. Chan, but admit that listeners will not know which player they mean. Respecting the requested pronunciation and communicating clearly are presented as competing obligations.
Kirk Cousins' $321 million career earnings prompt a gold jacket for his agent and credit for Cousins' guaranteed-money discipline. Cousins and Fernando Mendoza are then called clean-mouthed goobers who love Kohl's markdowns, will become Kohl's Bros, and should reach a handshake agreement for Cousins to become godfather of Mendoza's children within one weekend.
Jauan Jennings asking for more money repeatedly mutates his name into Joanne Jennings and Juan Jans. The desk says he misplayed his hand because younger draft versions of 'Joanne Jennings' will be cheaper.
A Jay Griz audio theme fires around the mailbag without being requested. The hosts insist they never ask for it, compare every deployment to a frying pan to the face, then concede it is a good jam whose J. Gris refrain gets stuck in the head. No physical cardboard presence is established.
Kyle the Borgogan puts Kyren Williams on the trade block during the mailbag. One host considers grabbing him before the episode ends; the desk tells Kyle to fill his entire roster with running backs and pretend he is a contender, which makes an unlabeled participant angry.
The hosts cannot say Emeka Egbuka, producing A Buca Gronkowski, Mecca Egg Begbo, and related mutations. They blame Rob Gronkowski's prior monstrous comment for ruining Egbuka's career and their brains, while an unnamed host remembers Egbuka as his former My Guy.
Jameson Williams becomes Jay Willie, first-half blunder and second-half wonder. The hosts reveal that he was absent Andy's My Guy and shares Andy's March 26 birthday, making them B-day bros; the later success is also tied to Dan Campbell's Coach Guns Mahoney play-calling takeover.
The hosts ask why the Deucers missed Mike's possible verbal stumble and learn the crew was reading ahead and working a fantasy trade instead of producing. They observe that the camera installers suspiciously omitted any rear view of the crew's screens, demand screen sharing, and call the live trade activity an illegal tampering period. Individual crew speakers are not identified.
Mike and Jason open as best friends without Andy, call the absent host the show's dad, and say they can have more fun while he is gone. The reason is another missing tooth—this time in front—which produces Toothless and Lloyd Christmas comparisons and a promise of repair. The prior episode's pronunciation crisis continues when Travis Etienne is called Travis A. Chan and the hosts admit respect for his name conflicts with listeners knowing whom they mean. Kirk Cousins' $321 million career becomes a gold jacket for his agent, then Cousins and projected rookie Fernando Mendoza become clean-mouthed goobers who shop Kohl's markdowns, form the Kohl's Bros, and are expected to reach a godfather handshake within a weekend. Jauan Jennings becomes Joanne Jennings and Juan Jans while pricing himself out of free agency. The core Jay evidence is audio only: an unsolicited Jay Griz theme fires around the mailbag cue, is compared to a frying pan to the face, and remains stuck in a host's head. Mid-mailbag, Kyle the Borgogan puts Kyren Williams on the trade block; the hosts consider acquiring him during the episode, mock Kyle for pretending to contend, and urge him to build an entire roster of running backs. Rob Gronkowski's old Emeka Egbuka pronunciation is blamed for destroying both Egbuka's name and the hosts' brains, yielding A Buca Gronkowski, Egg Begbo, and 'What is Rob with me?' Jameson Williams is remembered as absent Andy's My Guy because the two are birthday bros, while Dan Campbell remains Coach Guns Mahoney. Later the hosts discover the producer row ignored a Mike verbal stumble: because the camera installers never placed a camera behind the Deucers, the crew can play Minesweeper, read ahead, or work a trade offer while not producing. The live trade is called an illegal tampering period. The episode closes with one more Ken Bone Walker reference.
He did get the bag last year. So that, I mean, that tells you that he will at least have his job. He'll at least have it this year. This year. But Blake Corum was used a lot more. Blake Corum showed there is a reason that he was drafted in the NFL. It's like this is a situation that could quickly enter a full 50-50. I don't believe that. You don't? You think Kyran is that much better? Yeah, I think Kyron is that much better. Now, obviously last year it wasn't what it was. It wasn't like the 90-10 of years past. Last year, I think you're going to see more of that where you have a shared workload, but I don't believe it'll be 50-50. Kyran is their guy. He's also got a pretty nice contract. So he's under contract the next three years. They can get out of it very cheaply after this season. Yes, that would be the concern.
That's what I like about the contract. This isn't a type of contract that I feel like this isn't Todd Gurley levels that's crippling your ability to build a team. He's paid 10 million a year. That's a lot. That's a good chunk of change. But if you feel like he's an important part of your offense, 10 million a year is like, okay, we don't have to get out of this. Right. You know, they would they would still have 2.3 million dead cap next year if they got out of it next year. which means they're just saving 8 million, which is, I mean, maybe they'll have to, but I think he's safe for two years, which means for dynasty, if that was the question, what's the dynasty value for Kyron? He has. He's a keep for you. Would you acquire Kyren? I think he is, he belongs on a championship contending team. Okay, so if you're a contender.
lacking an RB2, you're willing to go pay the price? Because to go, to trade for Kyrim will be expensive. I would give up my first round. If I'm a contender, I'm a back half first round pick. If I've got like the, the 110, you know, because I was one of the best teams in the long. Get it done. You'll need more. Yeah. But I would be willing to go start negotiations and try to acquire him. And if I'm, if I'm a middling team, if I am. This is the type of player. Like we got that, we got there every couple years, the crops of great running backs. They get old and you start seeing, we saw this with Derek Henry forever ago and, and then forever, which is there are certain players out there that they need to be moved. They should only be on the contending teams. If you're not a contending team, capitalize right now. You can get more than the 110 for Kyron Williams. Right. And you should do that because he's not going to be around.
four and five years from now. He's not built like there, Kenry. And he doesn't have that kind of, he didn't come into the NFL with the name value, like a bejean or someone. So will he get another contract after this? Probably not one that is like meaningful for fantasy football. So if I'm a middling team or a rebuilding team and Kyron's on my roster, I'm looking to trade him to a championship contender. In related news. Kyle the Borgogan has just put Carmen Williams on the trade block. Oh, he's got him. Maybe I'll grab him this episode. Please do. Please have your whole entire team just be running backs. And you can pretend you're a contender. All right. Those words anger me. Let's see. We got Roma Dunze. This question is off of Twitter from Jason says it's a keeper question.
Rome wouldunese in the seventh or Emeka a begboa a mecca in the eighth that's a really fun one because both guys were disappointing down the stretch Rome oh really both guys got out to a smoking hot start the exact same thing though of like just catching non-stop touchdowns gosh their their beginning of their seasons is hilarious I if this one's I know, I know my answer. This one is easily a meka. Okay, that's where I am for me. Yeah, it's, it's a mecca. I think it's, it's closer. Rome, Rome has much more competition than a begboo does. Yeah. It is. It's hard to say his name right now. It is hard. A buca gronkowski has murdered. Mecca egg begbo. A mecca egg begboot. I can't even say it, man. I mean, a mecca abuca. It's awful.
This is a guy I just adored and loved. He was a my guy last year. And then Rob Grankowski put that monstrous comment out, ruined his career and our brains. But yeah, Emeka doesn't have the target competition. He's not dealing with like right now Luther Burton and Mr. Lovela. Oh, they have they have it left. It's like. They're sleeping in the weight room. Either one of them could be the one over Rome. And Rome could still be the one as well. Sure. We just don't know. I don't think that there is another player on the roster for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers now that Mike Evans is gone. Chris Godwin? Okay. I guess Godwin could be the one in a big, I will never say his name. What is wrong with you? What is Rob with me? Okay, that's what's Rob Grankowski. Yeah, I mean, at this stage, I expect a Mecca, Ibuka to be the one for their, like, that's my expectation.
I think it's more likely that he's the one than Rome becoming the one. Yes, I genuinely don't know. Like, well, I'm going to have to, when we start after the draft, statting up for the UDK, I'm going to have to dive deep to figure out the target pecking order for the bears. I'm into Abuka this year. I'll go one more year. Okay. Of, like. Take another shot. Yeah, it started. It started so hot. He's a great wide receiver. Right. That's the thing that was so weird is he was a great wide receiver. Then he was drafted in the first round. And then he was a great wide receiver. And then all of a sudden, Baker couldn't throw the ball to him and he couldn't catch. So weird. This next question is from Joshua in Texas. I am in a Superflex Dynasty League. My team is terrible. I got a trade offer of A.J. Brown for J.
Waddle. Interesting. Okay, so this is a... My team is terrible. This is getting out of an aging veteran who will probably be on the downside of his career. A.J. Brown will be playing at 29 this year. What hell is Waddle? 27.3. Oh, it's like a year and a half. Really? I know, right? It feels like AJ Brown. What? Well, Jalen Waddle... came in a little later. I don't think I would do that. I would rather have A.J. Brown. Yeah, I would stick with A.J. Brown. But to be fair, I don't understand how this is worded. I think they might be getting A.J. I mean, it says, I got a trade offer of A.J. Brown for J. Waddle. That could go either way. I guess. So we'll just say we are on the side of A.J. We'll just say, yes. Huh? Huh? Yes.
You figure it out. Yeah. Where's your question better? We're both preferring A.J. Brown over J. Wattle. Okay, let's say you have A.J. Brown. There's still all the rumors. The Patriots rumors have not gone away. They have now just shifted to, well, it's going to happen after June 1st. It could. I believe that. So do you, if you hold on to A.J. Brown, do you want him to move? To the Patriots or do you want him to stay? No, I would much rather him move to the Patriots. I want him to move to just about anywhere. Obviously, if you move to a team that has no quarterback, but I don't, the thing about a nice veteran like this, who's got a humongous amount of money on his contract and would expect probably a new contract upon arrival. Yeah, I think a trade means more new cash. There isn't a team out there without a quarterback that is doing that.
So I don't worry like, oh, he's going to go to this bad team that has no quarterback, because why would they trade capital for an aging vet and then give him a bunch of cash if they don't have the quarterback figured out? This is a team like the Patriots. It's like, we've got our quarterback, you know, the commanders, where it's like, we've got a good team, but we need to support our quarterback with another stud. And I think that when he gets traded for draft capital and given a new contract, the targets will be coming. So I want him traded.
All right, quick break back with some more questions. Mike in Baltimore, is Isaiah Pacheco a must have running back now that he is behind Gibbs? No. I mean, he will be, he will be rostered in all leagues and has to be rostered. But a must have to me is like someone that you're going to be playing. Well, I think if, if Jamir Gibbs is not playing, you'd be starting to Checo. Of course, but that just means he's an insurance running back. Yeah, but so he's like the level of insurance that Pacheco provides toward the Detroit Lions. He is a very important insurance back. I mean, you're going to look around the league and say, okay, who's behind Bijan, who's behind Gibbs, who's behind McAfri, who's behind. And then if there is a clear backup and Pacheco appears to be the clear backup, then those will be important guys. I'm fine drafting them. I'm fine dropping them if I need to. Well, let's just go to that Pacheco versus.
the other B. Robinson who's got the higher premium. Your monthly premium is waiting for the payout. Who's higher? I would rather have Brian Robinson. Okay. I think that he has shown more in the last year and a half when given opportunities. He's looked pretty good. And Pacheco has never looked remotely the same after that leg. break. I mean, this was a guy who was on fire, looked great. We loved how he destroyed the turf when he ran. And he broke his leg. It was unfortunate. His opportunity to be a bell cow and get that bag. It didn't happen. But then when he came back, it was like, we forgave him because he just came back from a leg break. And he looked worse than Kareem Hunt, an aging vet. So then you go into the next year and you're like, okay, there was some news like, oh, he's looking good. And I don't know, did he ever look good to you last year? No.
Yeah, me either. So I'll take the guy that still looks good. All right. Let's stay in Detroit. Felix off of IG. What is Jameson Williams value in Dynasty? So James 25, freshly 25 years old. Apparently because of the website says he's 25.0. I don't know his actual birthday. But a happy birthday. Whenever it was. Jay Willie. He was a first half blunder. and a second half wonder and he finished as a top 10. Wait, wait, wait. Is it his birthday today? It's not his birthday today. But what if I told you that he was Andy's my guy and his birthday is March 26th? Are you telling me he didn't know that? Of course you know. That's why he was a my guy. B day bros. B day bros. Who you got to be careful with that one? Second half each time. I'm a good day bro. Right. So birthday. Birthday.
Bros. Second half, he finishes the top 10 wide receiver. It was awesome. That was, and you do recall, coach Guns Mahoney, aka Dan Campbell, took play calling and said, you stink of this, I'm gonna do it. Mm-hmm. Because you can't figure out how to get Jameson Williams the ball. It's actually very easy, according to head coach Guns Mahoney. Where do you have Jameson Williams? Because that, that's really, like. He was a top 20 guy back in 2024 off of 58 catches for 1,000. So, I mean, that's not really anything spectacular. I've got him right now in dynasty leagues as my wide receiver 17. And every time I look at that, I think he might be too low. Wait, he might be too high every time. He was higher in points per game two years ago. I didn't realize that. Because it's like right now I've got him obviously behind.
the Chris Olavay, George Pickens, the same kind of age. Oh, I have George Pickens. Yeah. Illegally high in my ranks. Yeah. And so Jameson, you can make really strong arguments. Nice, big, long contract, freshly minted, 25 years old, great offense, quarterback stability, that he is great. But his inconsistency, I don't think goes away. I think the play style, I don't believe he's going to be a hundred catch receiver ever. You know, and so he's a frustrating fantasy asset to have. So I look at him and I'm like, okay, would you rather have a 25 year old? All those things I just said that is on a good offense, but he's 25 or the aging AJ Brown. Jameson Williams.
Is that easy for you? Yeah, it is. So I have him above AJ Brown in my rankings. Like AJ Brown is at 19, James and Williams is at 17. When I think through this, I feel like I would rather have AJ Brown to be able to put in the starting lineup more confidently right now. But then, of course, the age and the gap. So I think he's at the right spot. Whenever I see a player and I'm like, he should be higher, he should be lower. It's probably, it's probably baby bear situation here. I got you. Well, it's really Goldilocks. The baby bear was... Well, it was always the baby bear who was the one... Yeah, okay. You're right. You're right. His chair is bad. I mean... Maybe baby bear had it made. I... Like, if you're talking... All kids have it made. Man, you just don't know it yet. The... If you're saying the value this year, AJ Brown on the Eagles, I'll take Jameson Williams. Oh, really? Redraft. Yeah. It...
AJ Brown on the Patriots. I'll take AJ Brown. Okay. But I do. I have, I have confident that James and Williams will be far more consistent and reliable this year. Dude, have that confident. Have it. Have that confident. Yeah, that's what you said. Did I? Yeah. I thought I said I'm far more confident. I don't think so. Well, what did I say? What did I say back there? They're not listing. Yeah. They're not doing any. They're not paying. Are you playing mind sweeper? What are you doing? I wish we had a camera behind them. I need, we need screen share. You ever noticed that the guys who set up the cameras never put a camera behind them so we could see what they're doing? They're like, no. Very suspicious. But did Mike have a flubby statement? You're allowed to talk. They don't know. You don't know how to talk, do you? No idea. Okay, you guys, what were you doing? You guys were not producing this show. What were you doing? I was reading ahead. Oh my gosh. I was working a trade offer. You're trying to get Cameron back in?
Goodness, because he knows we can't do anything. Yeah, this is the time to swoop in. He's in the tampering period. Unfair. Unbelievable. Illegal tampering period. Ridiculous. All right. Well, let's let's stay talking dynasty. Eli off of IG. Dynasty value. Cortland Sutton, 30 and a half. He will be entering year nine in the NFL. His value is. He is farting again. It's weird because it's the same thing, you know, it's like Cortland Sutton this year on the Broncos. The wide receiver 13? He should be solid. Like last year he just finished wide receiver 13. He has Jalen wattle now, which is that's a big difference than anything that they have of our arguments of Pat Bryant and Troy Franklin.
Jaylen Wattle is much, much better than both of those guys. Yeah, I mean, that's the dynasty issue is once the Jalen Wattle trade came through, you go, okay, well, Corlin Sutton, he'll be a red zone target, but he's not going to be their wide receiver one. It seemed like last year they were trying to have him not be the wide receiver one, or at least, I don't think they were trying to manufacture that, but there were large stretches of the season where Troy Franklin was leading him in targets, leading him in yards, and then Corlin Sutton was saving fantasy value with touchdowns.
The wheels are going to fall off really, really soon for him. And they've already invested in their future. He may not even be a Bronco in two years. Oh, yeah. It's the unknown of where is a 31.5 year old receiver going to go? I don't know if you can package Sutton with someone, like Sutton plus another legit player to upgrade. But I would be trying to unload Sutton off of... being back to back and half PPR, wide receiver 13, two straight years. 120 plus targets in each of the last two seasons. Do you think he can hit 120 targets? No way. No way. No way. No how. Not with Waddle there. I mean a Waddle injury. Just a balloon hints. All right. We got, we got maybe one more. Let's go that guy from someplace. Oh, dude, I know him. You know that guy? I know that guy. He wants to know as of right now.
I'll read you the names if you are not privy to them. Your least favorite, round one pick. Because we often say, you know, like you, you don't win at the draft, but this is where you build your foundation for a very successful year. Jason, your strategy of round one is that of, not that you don't want upside, but you do want to feel safe. Yes. With your pick. I do. I think in the first round, everyone has upside. And we know that historically, probably, you know, at least 30 plus percent, probably even closer to half of the first round, will be disappointing. It just happens. Like, usually it's injury to derail a first rounder, but sometimes it's just, they just don't live up to the hype. So this year, Bijan Jemir, no, that's fine. Love it. Jamar, Puka, JASN.
No problems there. I'm not scared about any of them. Johnny Taylor, Christian McCaffrey. Everyone is always scared of Christian McCaffrey. Sure. But also, I'd love to have him. He was very fun to have on my team last year. C.L. Lamb, Oman, Raw. No fears there. Okay. Here's where it has to come in. The back of the first round would be where. So that's Justin Jefferson. Little scary off of a... terrible year, but Kyler, I think, helps. Kyler is, you know, Kyler Murray, the guy that the Arizona Cardinals paid to leave, the guy that the majority of Arizonans, if you went and took the poll, said, we got to get this guy out of here. No one like Kyla Murray, until he was a free agent, then people love him and they want him on their team. Yeah, because he's not a Cardinal. Very strange situation. That makes complete sense to me. But so you got the quarterback situation for Jefferson. You got James Cook.
And then Ashton Gentie. Ashton Genties still, these are, this is from best ball, by the way. He's sneaking in there at the very last pick of the first round. James Cook lost his fullback. Is that? Yeah, I mean, he lost his fullback. They also got a wide receiver in theory to be more of an alpha and DJ Moore. The coaching change is neutral as it's the O.C. So the offense should be the same. But, I mean, it's like can Joe Brady? handle the responsibilities of being a head coach. Some guys are awesome offensive coordinators, and then they end up being in charge of a team, and they can't do it. Yeah, I mean, look, I think the scarier one feels like it's James Cook, but in truth, it probably should be Ashen Gentie. It would be Ashton Jenty for me because of the, if Kirk's going to play a bunch of the year.
That's better. That's very helpful. They overpaid. They got a new center. We love that. We love the new offense that is coming in. So it's gente. But real quick, though, for Taylor, the second half of the year, it fell off. I mean, they don't care at all about that. You don't. No, I mean, it wasn't. These were games where Daniel Jones was playing. They just were playing harder teams. Kind of, yes. But also, like, the last four games of the season, which were really bad, were Daniel Jonesless. When Daniel Jones left, it was a, I had him. It was a, you know, a wide foot kick to the nards. And he had a, when he had the down games, they still weren't like bad games. They were. So the first two weeks after the by week, which were Daniel Jones games, full, 100%. They lost both of them. They lost to Kansas City and they lost the Houston Texans in those two games.
Jonathan Taylor put up 7.6, half point, half point PPR, whatever, half point scoring, and then 13.6. Those two defenses are elite run-stopping defenses, and everyone has a bad game here and there. At that point, that's the end of Daniel Jones. He only played like a quarter of the next game, and it was a little bit more mild. But I'm not worried about. I'm not worried about Jonathan Taylor. He's a freak of nature. Well, I bring that up because you don't know for sure that when will Daniel Jones be ready to play? Sure. Week one? I don't know. Week four? We'll know closer to it. And I think he'll move around and fall if he needs to fall if all of a sudden Daniel Jones is starting on the pop or something that we don't expect. But at the end, if you look at Ash and Gentie being there, who very, very, very talented, you have.
Kubiak coming in saying he wants to have a time share, which he did not have as a rookie. And then there's other running backs out there. Devon A. Chan, I know that you've got a much worse offense this year, but also it's all Devon A. Chan. You've got Amarian Hampton that I think I would prefer with the upgraded offensive line over Gentie. I would expect a better overall offense. And I mean, you've even got. I think there's a lot of people that are in the Gentry tier that you can make an argument. Josh Jacobs bouncing back and not being injured. Ken Bone Walker. Like that spot to me, I don't know what other wide receivers were on the board, but that spot feels like pretty questionable. All right. That's going to do it, ladies and gentlemen, for our show. Thank you so much for listening. We will be back with another brand new episode on Thursday.
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