Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Todd Gurley, AFC South, Fantasy News

And Lamar Miller, I just, I don't know. How many, how many do you have? I have them down for 240 carries. Yeah, I had them. I had them around 250. Yeah, and when I look at 240, the thing that pops out to me is that that might be a little low. And he's going to be involved in the passing game. So I think to answer your question, Mike, he can be a top five back. Okay. Yeah. He just needs to stay healthy. So I'm sure he's licking his chops at the chance at more than 12 to 14 touches in a game.

Well, he probably. Think about this. When Lamar Miller went out into free agency, he said he wanted to be the guy. He wanted workload that mattered to him. Where did he go? He went to a team that gave the running backs massive workload. And what did he do the last time he played that team or from the other vantage point when you were Houston and you played Miami and you had Lamar Miller go absolutely ham on you? That was that game where Lamar Miller ran for 2,000 yards. Remember that?

In a game, one game. Two thousand? Wow. But my point is, Bill O'Brien, you know, he went out, they're going after a guy that they believe can fill that Aryan Foster role is my thought. I don't think they're thinking, hey, now we split it up. I think they're thinking we've got the next Aryan Foster. So right now Mike has Eddie Lacey, Ezekiel Elliott, Mark Ingram, LaShaul McCoy ahead of Lamar Miller.

Do you still feel comfy with that? It's, Lamar Miller is going to be a guy I reevaluate. I have him down for 245 carries. We have them at RB6. So I think that's a good consensus position. And he is, I mean, he is within a fraction of a couple points behind those other guys you talked about. All right. Last question. Sleeper from this roster, Houston's team. Is it Brock Osweiler?

Yeah, of the people we have talked about, it would be Oswald. For me, it's Tyler Irvin. And I'm going to throw out Will Fuller. I think Will Fuller actually establishes himself as the two. I just want to make enough big plays. To remind myself of that game. This is what he did against Houston. Lamar Miller put up 175 yards on the ground with a touchdown. Oh, and he also added 61 through the air with another touchdown.

And then they go out and sign them. That's probably what Houston gave up in, like, total offense over the last day games, something like that. All right, let's transition here. Let's talk about the affirmation Billup Dorset and the Indianapolis Colts. The Dorset led. The Dorset led Indianapolis Colts. We just talked about three wide receiver sets there. You got Luck. You got Hilton, Moncrief, Dorset. You got Frank Gore. You've got the Josh Ferguson. If you don't know who he is, we'll tell you about him. You got Dwayne Allen, no more Kobe Fleener.

And this is a team that, I mean, look, you can't even really look at their offensive ranks last year because Andrew Luck wasn't in the picture. I mean, you kind of have to throw those things away other than maybe the fact their offensive line was just atrocious. I mean, just giving up the second most hits on the quarterback, tons of sacks. Matt Hasselbeck had no shot. He's like, I'm old and I'm supposed to be a backup. I probably should have signed with a team that can protect the quarterback. He was valiant, though. Oh, he was good. I mean, he was borderline good.

You're in a situation like this? Yeah. So they spent a rookie first-round pick on Ryan Kelly at Center trying to build that Andrew Luck and Ryan Kelly tandem up for years on end here. We talked about Dorset. So let's talk about Josh Ferguson. Tell everybody who Josh Ferguson is. So Josh Fergan is an undrafted free agent running back. What? Did I say? Really struggled with that. Fergan. George Ferguson.

Hey, these things have. Josh Ferguson, undrafted free agent running back. Nicknamed Fergie. This is the Duchess? Yeah, we're just going to Fergie. So, and allegedly, the Colts were looking at him as early as the fourth round. They obviously didn't take him there, but they all reports that they were extremely happy to grab him. Currently slated behind Frank Gore, old man strength, Frank Gore. Robert Turbin. Robert Turbin just got in trouble with the law.

for, I believe, a drug issue. So there will be consequences coming for bicep Robert Turbin. And behind him, I mean, you have Jordan Todman, which he's had value here and there. But if they like Josh Ferguson and he can rise up the depth chart, he's going to get playing time. And Frank Gore, there's no way that they can work in the way that they did last year with his age and just how many carries are on Frank Gore's body. So somebody in that backfield besides Gore will have.

I think standalone value. We saw a couple years ago when it was Bradshaw and I can't remember the other running back who was there at the time. Richardson? Richardson? Well, Richardson and Donald Brown. And Bradshaw keeps getting worked in, but they've had multiple running backs where they all had fantasy value because of the passing game and the high scoring offense. So Josh Ferguson to me is a guy that is a must grab laid on in your draft.

The one thing I really like about Indianapolis is if you talk about the top five teams with young talent in the league offensively, it has to be Indianapolis. I mean, you have Andrew Luck, then you've got the trifecta of Hilton. Moncrief's, what, 22, Dorset, and you have Dwayne Allen, and you've got, you know, Frank Gore.

Well, as I say, one of these things is not like the other. He makes the average age 29. He's throwing off the Belker. He's throwing it off. But I just say that because Ferguson could be somebody they bring into that role. You know, I'm not expecting a ton from him other than to detract from the Gore numbers this year. Here's what you need to do with the Indianapolis Colts in this year's draft. You need to draft them.

Let me tell you some differences. Hot tip. Hot tip. Draft the Colts. Because like you said, Andy, this past year you kind of have to throw it away from our mind. It's hard to do that. We are so biased by recent events. We think that whatever happened last year will happen again. But last year, Andrew Luck, you know, had no offensive line and got destroyed and was injured and out, and the team was in complete shambles. But think about this. Last year at the draft.

Perfect example, Dwayne Allen. Dwayne Allen was drafted in the 12th round. Dwayne Allen was drafted in the 12th round. This year, after losing Kobe Fleener, he's in the 13th round. He's lower than he was last year when they had Kobe Fleener. That's ridiculous. You start the draft out last year with guys like, do you remember where Andrew Luck went last year?

First round, on average. He was the 10th pick off the board. T.Y. Hilton was in the second round. Frank Gore in the third round. These guys were drafted this way for a reason. They were drafted high because the Colts are a great offense, but the offensive line struggled. Luck got injured, and now everyone has fallen too far. $140 million over six years, $87 million guaranteed Andrew Luck this offseason. They don't believe.

that that was a sign of his normal play last year before the injury. So it's a good take. Those numbers that you just threw out there are incredible to me, especially Dwayne Allen. You know, the hype around Dwayne Allen and then for that to be, for him to... For him to be lower this year than last year is what in the world. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. And that, I mean, that's so much of fantasy football is kind of seeing through the haze a little bit and...

finding the values in the late round, a guy like Dwayne Allen, in the 13th round. You don't need to draft the tight end early. So we were talking about Gronkowski last show about the fact that maybe he's not really worth that first round pick anymore, losing Brady for four games. Would you rather have, you know, I don't know who's going around eight or nine in the first round right now? Do you want to throw DeAndre Hopkins? Sure. Let me tell you exactly who's going next to Bronx.

The guys going next to Gronk, these are perfect. A.J. Green on one side, Lamar Miller on the other side. Combine one of those guys with Dwayne Allen for free. Yeah. Would you rather have that combo than you would, Rob Grancke. 100% of the time. I would rather have A.J. Green with a Dwayne Allen than Gronk with, let me see who's going around Dwayne Allen here. We've got, you can pair him with Darren McFadden. No.

Jeremy Fadden. Or Victor Cruz. Oh, that's so nice. That's nice. You set Victor Cruz's name in the nicest sense that it's been uttered in years. Dwayne Allen in 2014 was basically last year's Eiffert. On 29 receptions, he had eight touchdowns. He only played 13 games, but he had eight touchdowns in that time. The guy can get it done in the red zone. All right, this might be the most fun division to discuss because now we're moving on to Jacksonville.

These are your favorite. I think this is your favorite division. And Jacksonville is a team that if you had to argue about best young talent with Indianapolis in the league, it is hands down Jacksonville's in that top five. They steal the show. They steal the show. They certainly do. Blake Bortles, Alan Robinson, Alan Hearns. You've got Yeldin. I don't know whether they're going to make the playoffs this year. I think that I like the roster. I think we'll see some regression from Bortles.

I have a hard time deciding what to do with the running game, but I saw Lean Yeldin. This is a team that could pass the ball last year. They really couldn't run it. They couldn't run it in the red zone. What say you about these Jaguars? I say they do not make the playoffs. That's not fantasy, but there's no way. Gus Bradley will... Oh! Sorry, Gus. Don't worry. Andy loves you. But...

From a realistic standpoint of this is a good division to be in, you only have the Texans that are a very difficult defense. So you're going to get a lot of easier games to play against high-scoring games against the Colts. So the whole offense looks great. Blake Bortle showed that there was a reason why he was taken so high. He is a legitimate.

above average quarterback in the NFL. Alan Robinson's going to get his targets. They re-signed Alan Hearn. So you've got an offense that's going to be putting up points. The difference this year is that they hopefully won't be trailing quite as much as they did this past year. And if they're not trailing as much, they're going to be able to be a little bit more balanced. They were extremely unbalanced last year. Pass heavy, minimal running. There's not a whole lot of guys in the league I'd rather have in a were-winning situation than Chris Ivory.

Right, Griss Ivory. If you're up, he's going to be able to smash those three and a half, four yards of carry and keep the ball moving. Hopefully he'll get some touchdowns, which will obviously take away from some of the passing touchdowns. You have Julius Thomas, we haven't even mentioned. So if you want a refresher on Blake Bortle's season, he was a 58% passer. He had 4,400 yards, 35 touchdowns, but 18 interceptions, which I believe either led the league or was tied for league leading.

Total. He also fumbled eight times. So you're talking about 26 turnovers, which, you know, if you've had Drew Brees in one of his high interception years, Eli Manning, that can get old from a fantasy quarterback perspective. It was the most in the league. Yeah, it was the most in the league. So we did, let me bring this up. We talked about Philip Dorset. We talked about Arizona. You got Rashad Green, who should be the three in Jacksonville. Right. Prolific offense or at least an upper, upper echelon offense. Do we need to...

Put him in this leper category, would you rather have Rashad Green or Philip Dorset? Dorset. Dorset by a country mile. Philip Dorset or Tony Dorset? I'm going to go Tony. All right, Philip. But Rashad Green, I like the tout. We had Alan Robinson on the show a couple months ago, and he was talking up Rashad Green as a guy that the public needs to pay attention to. I just don't know if there's enough to go around.

for him, especially with the addition of Chris Ivory. You have another guy eating away at touches. And Julius Thomas was not a huge factor last year. If you remember, he missed a whole bunch of time being injured, and then he kind of... Being injured. It's just a funny way to put it. Oh, yeah, sure. Like, what am I going to do today? I'm going to be injured. I'm going to be injured today. I've looked into it. You do a lot of sitting. Sounds like what Jerome Simpson would do it. And then when he's injured, people are, what are you doing? His response is, wasting time?

I'm wasting time being injured, right? And that the words you use? Mm-hmm. All right. This has been Make fun of Mike Hour. Brought to you by Andy and Jason. Continue, Mike. Well, we had such a good thing going. You said now was elite talent. And now you've just crushed me. That's okay. I'm going to give you another compliment later. Oh, the compliment sandwich. There you go. But, look, Julius Thomas, I expect him to be far more involved. And so I just don't see a scenario where Rashad Green is putting up any kind of a consistent.

level of fantasy production. What we saw from Rashad Green last year was when he was healthy and in the game, they would use him on a lot of short passes. He's more of that, you know, older Edelman type of role. Who's older than Edelman? No, no, no. I don't mean age-wise. I mean a couple years ago, Edelman. Last year they moved Edelman to the outside and they started kind of stretching. Well, yeah, Green average like five yards a catch. Exactly. He's Cole Beasley.