Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Todd Gurley, AFC South, Fantasy News

is if he is in that guy, in that role, if he's that goal line, short-yardage, joick-bell type of role, I think it just says that nobody's going to really be valuable there. The hope is that Amir Abdullah starts taking on that kind of work, and that Zach Zinner and Stephen Ridley. Did you ever really expect Abdullah to be a goal-line consideration? I mean, I certainly didn't. No, no, but there have been reports out of other beat writers.

from the Detroit area saying that they expect him to get three-down work. And if that's the case, then he is more valuable. This report says water's muddied. Okay. To me, it doesn't change Abdullah or Riddick. It just changes the Zinner-Ridley situation to me. Any other thoughts, Mike? Nope. All right. Appearing on Mike Clay's Sirius X-M show.

ESPN Colts reporter Mike Wells has said that Indianapolis is, quote, definitely going to be a three-wide receiver offense moving forward. Is this an indication of let's keep our eye on Philip Dorset? Absolutely. And this is kind of what you expected to happen or what we expected to happen with. No Kobe Fleener anymore. Fleener's gone.

And so the Colts are no longer trying to emulate that old Patriot offense where they're running the double-tied ends. And look, three wide and with a team that likes to throw and Andrew Luckins is an above-average quarterback, Philip Dorset is being left for dead, essentially. This is what happens a lot. You know, he was a first-round pick, so there's huge hype. And he didn't do very much in his rookie season. And on top of that, he got hurt, missed a bunch of time. But if he's out there, look.

We, it's not as, I would say, a strong situation, but Green Bay, I want to know who the third wide receiver is there because that person has fantasy value. Well, look at Arizona. Yeah, exactly. Nobody thinks three, all three guys are getting drafted in Arizona. You've got Andrew Luck in Indiana. If a team is going to run a three wide set frequently and they pass and they have a great passing attack, why would you not draft that guy?

That's so it's keep your eye. Well, he is being drafted, Mike. Philip Dorset is currently the, well, he's the 178th player off the board. Yeah, there you go. Where is Dante Moncrief right now? Sixth round, I think. Is, yes, back of the six, 72nd overall. And that's perfectly fine to me. I'm just saying, no, I know, but I'm just trying to decide whether I'd have, you know, if I had to choose, if I'd rather have a free Dorset or a six-round Moncrief. Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy.

I mean, honestly, I think both of there is far more realistic than trying to grab like two of the three options in Arizona. You know, because it's just so expensive. You could actually grab both of those guys and see who's going to break out. And if they're in three wide, I think Dorset is firmly in the sleeper category. And on top of that, if Hilton or Moncrief are to go down, Philip Dorset, man, come out. Get on the wagon. Very high pick invested on Philip Dorset.

All right, this is interesting. I think a lot of people know Jamal Charles will be carrying the load in Kansas City as long as you say it's healthy. But maybe they've wondered if it's going to be Char West or Spencer Ware back behind. It looks like it's going to be Spencer Ware, according to Chiefs reporter Adam Ticher. Tyker? Yeah. Yeah. Both of them. So Spencer Ware, the number two, do you consider him a handcuff? No.

What do you consider him? I do not. I think he's just a... They were dominant last year. They ran so much. Yeah, well, this news isn't surprising to me that he's the number two. I don't think what we hear when we hear this news is we jump to, oh, if Jamal Charles goes down, Spencer wears the man. But that's not what this news was. This news is while Jamal Charles is there.

Spencer Ware is going to be the other guy. And that makes sense. He's kind of the complimentary back. He's a bruiser. He's that short yardage guy, just like they used to have, you know, before those guys were there. But if Jamal goes down, I don't think Spencer Ware is necessarily the guy. I think Charkandric West will take over that Jamal Charles role. Spencer Ware will keep the role that he's in. That's a really, really good point. It's the same type of thing you could see in Seattle if.

Rawls went down, Collins could get first and second down, where even though CJ ProCise might end up the two. How dare you overlook Kristen Michael? Like I said, exactly what I said. Okay, so I think that's a really good point, Jason. When a guy goes down, it's not always the very fantasy-friendly on paper, just slide the depth chart up into the system. They like both guys. They offer different things. Obviously, Char West is a little bit more explosive.

better in the passing game, doing the things that Jamal Charles does. So we are going to talk about the AFC South next and have Todd Gurley join us for a interview here in a minute. Mr. Gurley, before that, we want to thank a sponsor of today's show, ZipRecruiter. Look, a lot of people don't realize that before we got into podcasting, I used to run a video game design company where the three of us met. I hired Mike. And...

Elite talent, we got the best employees at that company. And the way we did it was by hiring the right people. If you are out there hiring, you need to put your job options at the best sites. ZipRecruiter is that best way. With ZipRecruiter, you could post to 100 plus job sites at once, plus social media, which is huge. Facebook, Twitter, you do it all with a single.

click on any industry nationwide. You just post it once, all your candidates, roll into ZipRecruiter's interface. You don't have to worry about emails and calls to your office, all of that stuff. You can quickly screen them, rate them, and you can hire the right person fast. So you can find out why ZipRecruiter has been used by over 800,000 businesses. And right now, for the Fantasy Footballers listeners, if you are a hiring person out there, you can post on ZipRecruiter for free by going to ZipRecruiter.com slash sports.

That is ziprecruiter.com slash sports fan. One more time, try it for free. ZipRecruiter.com slash sports fan. Let's get divisional. Hey, you about it talk. Mike had a real job at one point. Well, it was still making music for video games. I like that I was called elite talent. You sure are, bud. Boop. Yeah. Wait, you guys want to hug over there? No, it's your turn to say something nice, Andy. Let's talk about the Texans.

Brock Osweiler, starting the AFC South with the Houston Texans. I'm a big fan of the Texans this year. The offense or just them as a team? Just them as a team. Okay. In fact, didn't I... You called the Texans to win the division, I believe. Last year, you did. We had a water bat. I think that was this year. Well, last year you did it, and you might call them to win again this year. I'm trying... This is how many things we go through. I'm trying to remember if I called them as a potential Super Bowl team.

I think you said that as well. I think I said that. So I like them a lot. Losing credibility by the moment. By the moment. All right, you've got Lamar Miller joining the red and blue in Houston, basically a trade with Miami because he came over underutilized Miami. I think they won the trade. I think they won the trade, but we don't know yet. Lamar Miller has to perform in a workhorse role here. You've got to offer blue behind him.

DeAndre Hopkins, the fantasy darling of the first half of the season and throughout the year, obviously a huge high upside pick, first round draft pick. You've got a lot of different options behind them we need to talk about, and you got Brock Osweiler, the new quarterback for Houston coming in. This is a team that made the playoffs and was very successful with very little at quarterback last season, dominant defense. You know, last year they were middle of the pack in all the offensive categories, 15th and rushing yards, 18th for passing yards.

uh you know they they kind of protected the quarterback they kind of you know kept him free from being hit just right in the middle of the pack across the whole uh gamut of offensive ranks let who's the headliner for you who do you want to talk about the most well uh he's not who i want to talk about the most but he's the person i want to talk about first and that is the brockness monster that is brock oswalder look

We don't know if Brock Osweiler is a good or a great quarterback yet. We got a very small sample size, and he was very much. We know he's tall. We know he's very tall. And he was the game manager last year. When he came back, when he came in to replace Payne Manning was, hey, Brock, don't lose. And you know what? He's doing in Houston now, he's getting paid a lot of money. I think they're going to say, hey, Brock, don't lose.

because our team will take care of you. And I've got a pop quiz for you guys. And what are your thoughts? Is Brian Hoyer a good quarterback? No. Average. Exactly average. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. Average? Low, low end starter. Brian Hoyer, last year with the Texans, posted a 91.4 passer rating. Because, look, and he had great fantasy games because DeAndre Hopkins is there. So, to me...

I think that Brock is possibly being overlooked as a quarterback, too. I'm not going on him a QB1 right now, but for like an Alex Smith type. Sure, but if you're in a two-quarterback league and you want to wait and take Brock as your second guy, that's perfectly fine with me. Well, they did what they could to equip him with weapons with Miller, with Will Fuller in the draft. They also brought in names escaping me, third round. Braxton Miller.

Yes. So they're trying to give him weapons. And they have last year's Jalen Strong coming back. Jalen Strong has lost a lot of weight. I wonder what this year's Jailen Strong is going to do. He can't do anything but better than last year. Right. Well, I'm saying you were talking about. Oh, no, I like Jalen Strong when they first drafted him. There's a lot of buzz about Strong right now out of camp or from their OTAs and everything.

The truth is, for me, is that because they brought in so many wide receiving options this year, they still have Cecil Shorts. It's a hard one to say. Only after lunch. Jalen Strong. I feel like it's D'Andre Hopkins, and then I don't want to deal with the rest.

I think that's just, this is not a prolific passing offense that's going to spread the ball around and create a second and third wide receiver. Kansas City. Jeremy Macklin and I don't want to mess around with another wide receiver. Even though there are other good wide receivers in Kansas City, the system says from a fantasy standpoint, you don't want that. You don't get high production out of that second role. No. You want to know the guy I want to talk about the most from the Houston, Texas. Because look, the Houston Texans, you got Lamar Miller, DeAndre Hopkins. Those are the guys.

Right? So the question is, is there anything else there that matters? And I want to throw the name out of Tyler Irvin because he has not got a lot of publicity or love for... Not got a lot? Not got a lot of love. Not received. From the rookie running back core, right? I mean, we talk Kenneth Thicks and we talk Kenyon Drake, obviously Ezekiel Elliott. Jordan Howard and... Yeah, I mean, the list goes on and on. But Tyler Irvin is a name that I think...

When I just said it, a lot of our listeners might go, who in the world is Tyler Irvin? Tyler Irvin is a very good player who was brought in as a rookie drafted behind pretty much only Lamar Miller. I know Alfred Blue is there, but I think Tyler Irvin will be used even while Lamar Miller is healthy in the passing game, in that Dionne Lewis role. So I would just, if you're in a deeper league and you're looking at a late pick flyer, I would throw Tyler Irvin on your...

watch list. Where do you guys have the carry totals for Lamar Miller projected? Are you able to pull those up? I have them projected on the Fantasy Footballers.com website. Were you asking the location? No. No, I wasn't, but thank you for that. This is what I'll say. How many? How many do you have him projected for? Well, we're trying to pull that up. What I will say about Lamar Miller, Bill O'Brien.

He's been the head coach of the Houston Texans for two years. And here is where he is ranked in rushing attempts. First and fifth. In last year, that was fifth in rushing attempts despite Aaron Foster playing just a handful of games. So he was throwing Alford Blue Grimes out there and saying, we're still going to run the ball a whole bunch. So to get a talent like Lamar Miller, if Miller is healthy for all 16 games and gets the workload you expect, would it shock you?

If Lamar Miller is a top three running back? No, not at all. No, not if he gets the workload. I'm a little concerned about whether they believe he can do the Aryan Foster style workload. Because you gave examples of them rushing a lot, but they were spreading the ball around to different guys. Because the talent. Yeah, because of the talent. Well, I mean, if they have talent in Irvin.