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Mid Round Madness + RB Surprises

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Well, I mean, we're back, but the show is, the show is always been going. We're physically back in Phoenix, and it's very toasty. It is. It was wonderful. We were in Minneapolis, Mike. Do you not remember this? Not really. Minneapolis has much better weather in late June, early July than Phoenix, Arizona does. That is, that is a fact. That is a fact, Jack. It's fantastic up there.

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Thursday, June 28th. Welcome into the fantasy footballers podcast, Andy Mike and Jason. We're back. We're talking mid-round madness on the show today. We'll get you caught up in fantasy football news. Maybe hit a little mail bag. But, yeah, I want to say thank you to everybody out there in Minneapolis. They are indeed Minneapolis nice. They are Minnesota nice. They are very, very welcoming people. They shared their food.

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with us. Juicy Lucy's included. Putines. Yeah, yeah. Those have ramifications. They certainly do. Of deliciousness. Yes, exactly. So great live show up there. Thanks to everybody that took part, those that watched on the YouTube channel. Yeah, that was step one in the fantasy for the people two are presented by draft was Minneapolis. And we have Dallas coming up very.

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Soon, July 13th at Canton Hall. And here's what's cool about the Dallas show. It's kicking off the National Fantasy Football Convention, and we actually get you discounted tickets to the NFFC if you go to Ballers Live.com. So if you want to go, and obviously if you're coming to our show, you love fantasy football, you want to be part of the biggest national. Make a weekend out of it. I mean, this isn't a local fantasy football convention. This is national.

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Yeah, and we're going to be talking at the convention as well, not to mention hundreds of NFL players. It's just a great time. I remember last year, last year looking at Twitter, all ablaze with the NFFC, it was like, we've got to be part of this. And so we are, and we want you to be part of this. That's right. So you can get discounted tickets to the whole kit and caboodle.

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Yeah. That's really the words I was hoping you used. And you're right. Zeke, Kareem Hunt, Melvin Gordon, Kenyon Drake, Chris Thompson, as well as tons of other fantasy football. And Brad Emmons is joining us for the live show. He certainly is. That's July 13th. And we're also going to be in Philadelphia on July 26th. We'll be in New York on July 27th. And draft, the sponsor of our tour is doing a flyaway contest. So if you're not in one of those cities, they're saying,

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We will take you, and they've got planes now. Yes. And they'll put you on the plane. Now, it's very recent. It's, yeah. And they'll put you on the plane. They'll fly you. They'll put you up in a hotel. They'll let you come to the show. That's going to be fun. And basically, how do you enter that? You play best ball. Draft.com slash ballers. Play a game for money. And you're entered. Oh, so you're probably already entered. Yeah. That's great. And you can go to ballerslive.com.

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to get your tickets for any of those events as well. Ballerslive.com. All right. Quick question of the day, gentlemen. This was, I guess, an in-person request, Brooks? Yes, sir, during that live show. So somebody came up to the judge and asked this quick question. What is the lowest ranked running back that could finish as an RB1? So this is individual. So what is your lowest ranked running back that could finish as an RB1, Jason?

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Mine is dependent a little bit on, well, I guess a lot, on health. If he starts the year, not on the PUP, the pup, I think Deonta Foreman has a legitimate shot at being an RB1. This is an offense with DeAndre Hopkins and Will Fuller that looks exciting. I really liked, I mean, if you listened last year, you know that I was a big fan of Deontza Foreman coming out of...

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college. I really liked what I saw in the NFL. His production profile, his weight adjusted speed was great, and he was just fantastic. He was electric. He was tearing it up in the game that he tore up, unfortunately, his Achilles. And the jury's out on players recovering from that injury to, you know,

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getting all the way back and being good enough. It's not been a, it's not been good. The track record is especially for running backs in particular. It's been a career ender if your career is kind of progressed a lot. But as a really young player, I think there's a, there's a chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've got him ranked number 53, so that's probably the lowest ranked running back that I have that I could say into the year if he's a running back one, you could see it coming if he's healthy.

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Yeah, I'm going to go with various guys, Washington running back. I'm at 27 right now. I think you could end up running back one. Things are trending the right direction with what he's doing in Washington. The fact that... So hold it. Sorry to interrupt you. Jason just gave an argument for Deonti Foreman who can't catch crap.

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And he is, and Darius Geis actually has the skill set to do it. And he, no, Deonté form it. It won't shock me if he's a running back one. Done right. Meanwhile, Darius Geis better running back not coming off Achilles who is set up to be a starting running back. You can catch the ball. But no, that would be shocking. Here's the thing about Geis.

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is traditionally in these situations. And this is ridiculous. If you went back and if you haven't seen the live show, it's a 10 Tips and Tricks episode. Mike brings up the concept that there are some gross situations like the Green Bay running back situation that can bear themselves out and a lot of fruit can come from it. Fantasy-wise. What I like about guys is he's far and away the best player.

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In that backfield. And yes, P. Rhines there and Rob Kelly and Chris Thompson, who was insanely efficient last year, but also very efficient at getting hurt each and every year. Geis is so far and away the better athlete on an improved offensive line, the right situation, the right draft capital. I think that there's a world where he's easily a top 12 running back. Now, this is...

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What's the lowest that could? Not the lowest that will. So do I think Geis gets that opportunity? I still put the percentage in the not enough pass-catching opportunity to end up as a top 12 guy. But he's super, super talented. And the cream rises to the top in the NFL. By the end of the season, if not earlier, guys is going to be getting the predominant amount of snaps in that backfield regardless of how many receptions he has. Therefore, I think he can finish there.

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It really sounded like you said the Kareem rises to the top. Well, and that happened? You know. So you're proven right. Yeah, it's true. And I will say this, we'll preface with, I mean, guys further down on my list, they certainly could, but a lot of things have to break that player's way. And I wanted to bring up a player where I think not too many things have to shake out for him to end up a running back one. And I don't know if we've, I don't feel like we have talked about this player enough. And that is Kenneth Dixon.

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running back, backup running back for the Baltimore Ravens. While we all really like Alex Collins, he was incredibly efficient. He was just a, he was a great player once they gave him the opportunity. He's back on that nonsense exclusive rights contract that Baltimore saved him. He's actually making this year the same amount of money as Kenneth Dixon. Kenneth Dixon tore his meniscus.

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got suspended for PEDs, got suspended for substance abuse, was a fourth round pick, and Baltimore kept him around because they believe in him and they believe in his talent. And he flashed. Kenneth Dixon, there was real hype for him a couple years ago before the injury because he was flashing. And he can be a pass catcher as well. So it would not shock me if by the halfway point, Kenneth Dixon has stolen the job. I don't think, how dare you? I understand. Look,

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Alex Collins is the greatest running back. Did you say Terrence West? Like I said, I'm still drafting Collins in the middle rounds, but Kenneth Dixon could play his way to be the starting running back where I think these are. We all like Alex Collins, but there's no reason why he, look, we all like Rob Kelly before last year too. And things happen to players that don't have the heavy financial investment. Yeah. That you don't see a world where Alex Collins loses his job.

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Jason can see it, but he'll never admit it. Oh, did you just admit it? He said, of course I do, but, so. Yeah, the reality, so I'm, this is mid-round madness, right? This is the show we're talking about these mid-round guys. I'm so tempted to on the fly change to Alex Collins because of your ridiculous Kenneth Dixon. He would appreciate that. All right, Twitter, you can find us at the FF Ballers. Make sure you check out our YouTube channel. You can watch the show. It's great. It's great. You've got to see Mike dancing.

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Jason's wearing the... Oh, yeah. Get in on this. Uh, Tariq. Turok. Turok Cohen. Turok. Thank you, Mike. Turok Cohen, dinosaur hunter's shirt that he was given at the live show. Incredible. He's holding it up to the microphone for some reason. Turok is going to say something. The website's the fancy footballers.com.

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Tarok talks dinosaur? Yeah, of course. You're darn right, he does. You've got to, you've got to be able to commute. Keep your enemies close, you know? Yeah, by learning their language. I'm fluid in Velociraptor. Exactly. News and notes from around the league. Speaking of Velociraptor. Took the kids to see Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. How'd that go? Well, it's fallen all right. That was, um, that was one.

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Three-hour explosion. And we made a big... It's explosive. Yeah, we made a big mistake because we have a nine-year-old and a six-year-old boys that we took. And, well, we went to the Dolby. So loud. And it was loud. And it was shaking. And my wife was having to put, like, napkins in the six-year-old's ears to try to help him because he was freaking out. Parenting mistakes. All right. News and notes.

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from around the NFL. Let's talk about Julian Edelman in the situation here. Because news broke, suspension, four-game drug suspension. He's now appealing that. That appeal was heard Monday. What's the skinny? What are we expecting to happen? Because we did adjust him because 99.9% of these suspensions don't get overturned in any way, shape, or form. Not for PEDs. No, not for PEDs. And generally, they make these decisions, and they carry them out, and that affects your fantasy season.

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