Mid Round Madness + RB Surprises

We've made adjustments to his ranking based on the suspension. So what's the latest, Mike? So there are, there's a two part defense here coming from Jules. And it was that apparently the substance that was found is what is. It's just, it's not recognized. Yeah. I recognizeable. So that's, I think that's a pretty big checkmark for Edelman. And on top of that, he's going with the Ryan Braun defense of they mishandled the, the documentation and the delivery.

And that certainly worked for Braun. So, yeah, it's funny because Braun, when he came back, was booed senselessly for years. Edelman comes back. He'll probably just be cheered. Well, Ryan Braun also didn't his career kind of... No, he's... Is he back to form? He's okay. He's okay now. It's baseball. I don't really know what's going on. But...

I literally had no idea what you guys were talking. This was a big deal, Jason. But Julian Edelman, he's like paper towels. At this point for me, it won't shock me if the suspension is overturned. The one thing that I saw was Dr. David Chow, a really good Twitter follow. Yes.

an expert used to be on, I believe, the Chargers medical staff for many years, and he weighs in on injuries and suspensions and things in his wheelhouse. He did say that if indeed it is an unrecognizable substance, he expects the appeal to go through and the suspension to be overturned. So we'll keep you up to date. We'll adjust their rankings if he is brought back. It'll obviously be a good thing for Tom Brady if he gets Edelman back from the beginning of the year. Losing a quarter of your season and even more of the fantasy season is bad. That's bad. Yes. All right.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that Randall Cobb was wearing a walking boot. He said the boot was temporary, did not disclose whether he underwent some sort of surgery.

So, you know, he is, this is bad news because he participated in the OTA. Right. So this isn't something from the off season. This was, you know, he was at OTAs. He was healthy and then spotted. So something happened during OTAs. I doubt that there is a surgery involved. But it's bad news because the whole issue with Randall Cobb over the last couple of years has just been, oh, he'd be good if he was at 100%, but he's not. And now it's like, couldn't get through OTAs. Did you say he'd be good?

He'd be good. He'd be good if he was at 100%. And I want to buy into that. You know, I've got some Randall Cobb shares in a lot of basketball leagues. And, you know, it's just such a shame. Nice. I wanted to bring that up of this is now going on three years in a row. And on this show, we always say, you mean, you're injury prone until you're not. But he has.

the one, really the one monster season. And then after that, after that season that you had, he could have been the guy when, when Jordy went down, but he had the AC spring. He's a very old 27 years old. Yes. And last year, right. Last year it seemed like he was clicking with Rogers, but then he went down again. And I, I am to the point personally where I'm taking my shot with Geronimo Allison as.

the guy that can emerge as the wide receiver too, because the price tag for Randall Cobb just continues to move up. I think that he's going to be a six-round pick come draft season, and I would rather take the guy in the double-digit rounds who is going to play on the outside opposite of Adams when they go three wide. Sure. All right. The last one here is we spoke briefly on the Tuesday show about...

James Winston news breaking that he'll likely be suspended for at least three games in light of the NFL's personal conduct policy with the Uber incident, the things that were rumored last year. We don't know. We don't have an official suspension, which means both directions. It could be better. It could be worse for his fantasy implications. I know that Vegas when...

Giving lines on potential MVP still included James Winston with candidacy in there. We just don't know that situation yet. I know we've made adjustments anticipating a suspension. Did you guys rank him based on a three-game suspension? That's how I approached him. I went to three games for now. I did the three games. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes six and then gets peeled. It's going to be a messy situation depending on which.

story. There's like two different stories as to what happened. And the NFL's got to get to the root of it, which is why we don't know yet. But I will say this. The one fantasy implication that I'm very confident in is that if James Winston misses time, this is really bad news for the tight ends. I like Cameron Bray, or like the Cameron Brate late, O.J. Howard to come through. Fitzpatrick does not use tight ends.

never used tight ends on previous teams. And when he came in in replacement of James Winston this last year, Evans was better. Deshawn Jackson was better. And you saw O.J. Howard and Cameron Bray, who were having productive seasons, do nothing with him. So I want to say this. I'll say it now, June 27th. If he gets suspended, I'm starting to believe that this is going to be an unraveling situation in Tampa because.

There's a lot of things that this means. One, they're going to be looking, you have to have one eye open on whether he's the long-term solution there. Because the jury's out on that and their success. This team is in a hyper competitive division where I already, you know, you already probably projected them fourth in that division. Yeah. And if you lose Winston for a few games, it's just an unsettling situation. Dirk Cutter.

His future could be up in the air. This could unravel quick. And then if they do have a high pick, do you replace Winston? I know that that's taking it to the int degree based on a three-game suspension. But it has not been smooth sailing for James Winston. And this team has a, you know, Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans problem. I just worry about the unraveling of this season because if they don't have Winston to start the year.

Already have a tough schedule. O and 3 is inside the realm of possibility. They're running back is Ronald Jones. Stop. Stop. You don't have the blockers. Oh. Oh. Why? No, this is a shout out, actually, to a fan who sent these in. These are the Elton John. Oh, you have Elton John hate blockers now? Yes. Thank you so much for these ridiculous sunglasses. I'm looking good for the first time of my life. So for those of you listening on the podcast, picture something ridiculous.

There you go. He looks incredible. And then add glasses to it. I appreciate that. I like that one. And just to cap what you were saying, Andy, he's, this is year four, right? So they would have, you got a fifth year option situation where a portal, a portal situation where the cash really balloons. I mean, if for a franchise quarterback, okay, I'm going to $21 million, fine. I will pay that. But you're, you're right. This is not the first.

Bad decision. This is just one in a handful, even more than a handful of very bad decision making by James. Yeah. And, you know, not that Keishon Johnson is someone I want to listen to, but he's been very vocal about thinking that it's not, the future's not with James Winston and the decision making. And we saw some glimpses of it in hard knocks, but players do mature. They do.

play differently than how they appear in hard knocks, see Jared Goff. So, you know, you hope that he gets it, get some people around him that can help that situation. Because regardless of the details, there's probably a suspension coming. Probably wasn't a good decision. All right, before we move on to our mid-round madness segment, which should be a lot of fun, I want to remind people about pristine auction.com, great friends of the show. They supplied all of the awesome autograph memorabilia for our live shows, including the sign Stefan Diggs, Adam Thielen.

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Madness. Oh, that was intense. I didn't even remember that drop. I thought I was, I was expecting the voice to come in, and I didn't remember we got a Sparta. Oh, it's blasphemy. Do you guys love that movie? I really did like it. I loved that movie. I really did. I thought it was so overrated. Wow, so you saw it late. No, I saw it in the theater. Oh, really? Yeah, the hype was real, and it was...

You thought it was overrated, huh? It was two hours of slow motion. But look at all the abs, Mike. Oh, I mean, abs for days. It made me feel very inept. Insecure? I mean, maybe that was it. I was just, I was covering my tummy the whole entire movie. Well, that's where the bin of popcorn normally is. I always, I never feel a sense of pride when I've got the extra large.

I want to tell all the people around me like, I didn't get butter. No butter on this. There's four of us. Totally healthy. All right. Hey, mid-round madness. Here's what we did. We're looking at players that are drafted right now between rounds four and eight. And I want to give you an example from last year of this type of player. So we're trying to find a gym, a diamond in the rough that is the fourth through the eighth rounds. Players to look for.

Last year, a good example would have been Larry Fitzgerald. We brought him up on the show. He was being drafted at the end of the fifth round last year. The 28th wide receiver off the board ended up. What, the wide receiver off the board? 11? 11 in 2016. I mean, he's... I don't remember where he was last year, but he was far better than 28. He would... What do you do was wide receiver 4? That's great. 11. See, this is why Larry Fitzgerald drops. But no...

What I meant to say is that in 2016, he was wide receiver 11. Oh, okay. Then he ends up being drafted as the 28th off the board. Gotcha. And ends up four. So we want to find that diamond in the rough in those middle rounds. And so we've each picked two guys out right now that we kind of, I don't know, we kind of smile when we see their name that far down in the draft. Remindered, Larry Fitzgerald's still going to the back of the fourth round. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's crazy. He's a, I know he's a my guy candidate for you, Mike.

He certainly is. But maybe we're going to raise his ADP enough to where he won't be able to. So I'm going to jump in here first. And I'm going to go with Demarius Thomas, who is currently going right around the middle of the fourth round. This guy was coming off of five straight seasons of 90 plus receptions and over 1,000 yards. And last year, he was still tied for 9th.

in reception. So the opportunity was completely there. I took a look at wide receivers and where did they finish in relation to total targets versus fantasy points. And I have found that there, we all know this, right? Opportunity means fantasy points, but there was an even stronger correlation this past season than I could have expected. Of the top 20 wide receivers, the average gap.