Fantasy Football - Week 7 Waivers & Streamers, Game Breakers - Podcast for 10/14

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that's the full name uh get over here you're grounded you're grounded jason wow uh welcome in one and all feel a little exposed uh because of the full the full name his social security now oh oh two eight we've got the first digit right it should be very easy to do yeah from there welcome in we've got a waiver episode today So we'll get into some of the names you need to pick up. A lot of players are hurting right now. I've got leagues with puka and a buca that are especially hurting. Taking a duca on you? Yeah, it's not, you know, I felt invincible in those leagues. And you just blink and you suddenly, you're like, I have no one to pay. It is a great reminder for all of the leagues you're in where you look across the pond and you see that team that is in Europe.

You see that that team that is in first place and they just look unbeatable. You're like, I'm not going to be able to compete this year. Those teams can have a bad week and lose a player or two and all of a sudden they're not in the running. Well, and it's also a, it's a time to show your medal in a sense, like for that team that was dominating with those two players. You're now in a position where you're like, do I, oh no, do I need to make a move? Like, how long is Pooka going to be out? How long is Egbuka going to be out? No one knows. And no one knows. And so it's like, do you need to go make a change? Can you withstand the weeks without CD Lamb? Right? And so there's a lot of question marks and a lot of waiver pickups and we'll talk about them all today. I want to remind you to check out join the foot.com. We have our exclusive waiver wire tools over there. Spot start tool lineup optimizer, building out some trade tools that we hope to launch in the next month.

and the ultimate dashboard. Yeah, you can use that for every league. Auto-import your team. Optimize the lineup every week, and it's getting more important as the weeks go on. So you also get an extra episode of the show. If you support us to join the foot.com, check that out. Monday night football, Falcons over the bills, bears over the commanders. Those were some pretty good games. I thought it was some good football. The Falcons game was pretty shocking. the way they jumped out to a lead and then just kind of kept going and you well it it they didn't score again yeah the second half the second half when they were up by 14 and then the bills score at that point you knew they were going to lose you knew the falcons it did feel like it was i thought they were going to lose when the drake london end of the half touchdown didn't count

and that was 21-7 and it stayed that way, and then they came out and scored in the first possession. I thought that was the point where... The Borgogan was boots on the ground. Yeah, Kyle was at the game, and he said 1,000% thought they were going to lose. Yeah, you felt like you needed that touchdown, but obviously... He also said it was at least 60% Bill's fans in Atlanta. What's going on down there, Atlanta? I'm also fairly certain that... Sherton? Shirton? I'm fairly certain. I'm pretty certain that they only needed, like... two offensive players and everyone else could have sat down. I mean, Drake London 10 for 158 and a touchdown and then one that he almost scored. And then Bijon was, um, every time you see Bijon run the football, you're like, I got, I got to start fanning myself. Arthur Smith thought you should take him off the field. Like what are you like, like really, really you should examine that person's head.

And that's not disrespectful to Tyler Alger who had a 21-yard touchdown run in this game. It's just the differential is so massive. Like Bijon is the best change direction player in the game, an amazing receiver, a breakaway touchdown candidate, longest touchdown of the year yesterday, 81 yards. How do you? The backup to Barry Sanders might have been very good at football. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You don't take Barry Sanders. Bijon is a game breaker every time he touches the ball. Your offense is, if you have him on your roster, your offense is guaranteed worse every time he's not on the field. Yeah, it's wild. And I understand needing a breather, here, there, whatever. But it's like the split last year, the fantasy community being irate about it. You know, there's all these things we want to see happen. Trayvion Henderson, we want to see that happen.

We might be wrong about some of those, right, compared to the team, which, by the way, funny comment on that situation that we can talk about in a minute. But this situation was just like all the fancy people are right. You know what I mean? Like, you've got to have them out there. He was awesome. Also, Drake London. Wide receiver usage. Let me check here. Drake London. No, there was no one else. Zero. The only wide receiver to catch a pass yesterday was Drake London. Yeah, Kyle Pitts didn't even do anything, really. It was, it was. Three catches for Kyle Pitts, six for Bejohn. He had the one where he kind of just fell down. 10 for. So he did do that. 10 for Drake London. Yeah. Kyle Pitts, not a dog. No, no, he's not a dog. You don't have to be a dog to be good, but he's not a dog. Yeah, I mean, the receiving work, the receiving game is, it's Drake London, but it's also Bejon. Bejon's on pace for 1150 receiving yards, which is.

Yeah, it's great for a wide receiver. And I would say we also, you got to take the Atlanta Falcons defense serious. Yes, it's great. When your players are going up against Atlanta, that has to factor into your decision making. Yeah, this was a wild game. The great Josh Allen. Terrible day. Yeah, in a four-point scoring format, he was on 15 points. He did not get to 200 yards. He did throw two interceptions. Well, and you're starting to finally look at that receiver room and go, okay. Especially when Palmer got her. Yeah, Palmer hip drop tackle, by the way. And the hip drop is happening and they just make sure they don't call the flag on it ever. Well, but you know, taunting. We got that under control. But you stare at that guy. Yeah. Do you look him down? Think about the kids. No Dalton Kincaid.

Yeah, no Dalton Kincaid, Palmer was. I think Dalton Kincaid was a big deal for this team. He seems like they're kind of primary receiving option so far this season. They could have used Keelman Coleman. They really should. Keem on Coleman. What? Sir, can we check what's in Andy's Cup? What is going? Oh, man. Probably needs more coffee. Apparently. Less vodka. I see clear liquid. That's all I know. I can't smell it from here, but a cup full of clear liquid. Come on, Coleman. Come on Coleman. He's a full cut at this point. Cut some Coleman. Yeah, you probably don't need him there. You just can't rely on him. There are a million players that could catch a touchdown every week. Right. He is just a player that could catch a touchdown at this point. It sucks. I thought.

that we'd see a lot better than that. And, you know, at the beginning of the season, it really sending me a breathalyzer test on Amazon. It really seemed like, you know, after that week one, well, when you play against the Baltimore Ravens and you're down and you're needing to score 40 points, Keone Coleman's going to be great. But the bills have a good defense and they've got a good run game. And so you just don't need them all the time. Well, you know, they really needed them in this game. They were down. They needed a score. He didn't step up. Yeah.

And then James Cook was pretty good on the ground, but didn't score. Yeah. And didn't catch any passes, I don't think. So, yeah, not the best day. And then, I mean, I think both of these games are upsets because commanders were at home. They seemed like they had control of this game. Mm-hmm. And then they committed the fumble. I mean, they committed multiple turnovers. I mean, you had. Three turnovers to none. You're going to lose that game. Yeah. And they did, even to the bears. who try to find ways to lose games sometimes. So it was 25, 24 credit to them. DeAndre Swift was insane. I mean, we've been talking about it for weeks. I be like, do you play DeAndre Swift? Yeah, I guess. And he was awesome in this game and looked at least to my eyeballs. I was like, they're doing different things. It's not just DeAndre Swift going up the middle. It was like a lot of really wide pitches.

To the outside. You're like, oh, hey, look. Use the speed. The guy who doesn't have vision, just let him be fast and get to the edge. He's always been athletic. And it worked really, really well. And get him the ball in the receiving game. He was incredible. There were, you know, this offensive line is just so much better for Chicago. Like the sacks, like Caleb took three. Okay, you can live with that. Not leading the league in sacks. Changes the way he makes decisions. So the Russian game was amazing. The passing game sucked. Roma Dube was two for 32 in this game. But that's because Luther Burton had four receptions. Swift had two. DJ Moore had three. Rome had two. Zakias had two. Loveland had two. You're saying it sucked for fantasy. Yes. I thought Caleb played pretty well and I didn't really have any problems with it. It was a rainy game as well. So, you know, but I don't want them to spread the ball around. Don't go to the open guy. Force it to your stars.

Okay? Yeah, and... Look at Drake London. There was a... What happened with DJ Moore? Because he was in... I don't know. He was in D.C. and stayed in D.C. And there was also a note that... In a hospital. He left in an ambulance. There was a report. I saw Underdog tweeted it out. Precautionary medical attention after leaving the game in an ambulance. He played 94% of the snaps. Well, he had the... There was a hit where it looked like he hurt his leg, but I don't understand... why he would go to a hospital overnight for that. That's usually like some sort of internal injury. So huge credit to the Bears, big victory. They're now three and two, above 500. Jay and Daniels had a good fantasy day with three touchdowns through the interception. Here's the double-edged JCM Bill Kroski situation. I have no jokes. No one else really got any work. Bill, Bill, Bill. Bill.

17 for 61 had the fumble. Chris Rodriguez deleted. No carries. Jeremy McNichols had two. So it was all JCM. So that part was good. But the production, you're supposed to be able to run on Chicago. He didn't at home. Debo, who played through a heel injury, awful, four for 15. It was a heel for your fantasy team. Yeah. And then, I mean, Chris Moore, three catches in the touchdown. Zach Erd, six for 43 in the touchdown. McCaffrey had a touchdown. Yeah, and so it's been, you know, without Terry McLaren. That was a... The play you're saying? The Luke McCaffrey designed. Because there's no one around it. Yeah, they fooled the bears on that one. So you were pretty disappointed in everybody unless you played Zach Hertz or Jaden Daniels, I think. All right, let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Well, the Titans fired Brian Callahan.

Which, if you've ever seen Brian Callahan in a press conference, was probably sweet relief for that man. Yeah. It has been misery. And the only thing... He's off to the Bahamas. Yeah, I take a break, brother. And I don't think he was a good coach for that. No, he was in over his head. I actually think, you know, you went through Will Levis. Cam Ward is playing worse than Will Levis. You're supposed to be the offensive mastermind. Didn't really do any quarterback whispering there. Lots of problems that were... outside of your control. But man, if you're going to do this, just do it before the season and get the guy like a stable new head coach. I think they thought that this was the right guy for the quarterback, that the quarterback was the issue last year and they found out it wasn't. And they knew he was not that dude. There was a quote going around and I can't verify 100% its authenticity. It was like a Reddit post.

Good start. What are we doing here then? What are we doing? It really did seem like it was true. It is better to have loved and lost. No, but it was it was it was the ownership talking about I basically I'm not going to lose to Mike with this head coach next week. And they play the Patriots where Mike Vrable just left and they, um, they, I think they were done with Callahan and they're like, but they are going to lose. But not with Calhalla. Oh, okay. Just worse. Yeah, maybe, maybe. The last four number one picks have had their head coaches fired during their rookie campaigns. It's a good reminder that just having a new quarterback does not fix all that ills you and got you the number one pick to begin with. It's almost like the team drafting with the 101 is bad. You saw who the interim head coach is for the Tennessee Titans. Is McCoy, right? Mike McCoy. Oh, gosh. Good luck.

Okay. I will say, look, there's a big post-firing bump usually for the interim coach. Since 2020, the teams are 10 and 4 versus the spread. Yeah. DJ Moore, we talked about that injury. Pete Carroll says it might be best for the long haul to keep Brock Bowers out. Yeah, and they've got a week eight by. So I do not expect. I mean, if the head coach is saying this and then you get two weeks for one week missed, I can't imagine he plays. And injuries, you can't control them, but definitely 100% the first three tight ends off the board this year were bad picks. I mean, McBride looked great. He's been okay this year. But relative to the cost of what you spent on him, I don't think he was worth that, is all I'm saying. Yeah, maybe. I mean, he was the tight end one this week. He's been in three of six weeks. So you have Titan five, six, and then he's actually two is what I'm seeing. But in a very anecdotal yet funny.

turn of events, it feels like in our chopped league, whoever has Brock Powers. Did he go again? Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. So Brock Bowers has been, that team's been chopped three times. Yeah, he is the ring. You pick up Brock Bowers and then go seven days. And he's going to be sitting up there and he's like, someone's going to bid hard on him. Yeah. Not me. Not me. Um, that's that's crazy. Don't. Yeah. Brock. Don't do it. Well, I mean, just... He's going to go for $2.5. Brock Bowers and Kittles injuries. And then you just had to spend such a high pick on McBride as all my point is. Speaking of Kittle, Shanahan's hoping to get Kittle back at practice this week. He could return to play this week, but it'll be soon. They need him. They do. Garrett Wilson's going to miss a couple weeks with an MRI showing an hyper-extended knee. So Garrett Wilson, Ibuka, Puka.

All dealing with injuries. We'll get more updates. We don't have more updates yet. The Garrett Wilson one is, I mean, it's double devastation because it's like I would have been very happy to just to go right back to Justin Fields next week with a healthy Garrett Wilson. But if he is not out there, I don't think. It's going to save you. I don't think I will do that. It's going to save you from that possible mistake. Wasn't it, who do they play since? No, Carolina. Yeah, like the matchup is fine, but. Who do they throw the ball to? Josh Reynolds and Mason Taylor. Rico Dowdell, when asked, Dave Canales was asked about whether he'd earned the right to be the starter. He said, we'll see. Yeah. Which is, I mean, to me that. You have to say it when you have a guy like Chuba who you gave all that money to. Oh, no, that's not what you have to say. Oh, you think you just go. I mean, you could come out and say. James Connor is our starter. It doesn't matter if Trey Benson played well. That's what you can say. Chuba Hubbard is our starter.

moving forward. You would never come out and say, we'll see as good for doubtle. Yeah, I'm still of the mindset. Our guy, me and Jason's guy, Rico, Rico, dude, Rico! Woo, Rico bros. I'm still of the mindset that Rico and Chuba will split. Like, it'll be 50-50. That's how, that's my big worry. I think the hope at this point has to be that Rico just takes over the role. Yeah, for if you're looking at fantasy purposes, it's, it's difficult. 50-50, he's still worth rostering. and possibly flustering. It's difficult because Rico is the big bruising back that, I mean, they even said it on the broadcast, you're like, this is the type of running back that over the course of the game wears you out and you get to the fourth quarter and you're just like, oh, go ahead, man, I can't get hit again. So if you go into the split with him, yeah.

It might not be as effective. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm getting at. That was News and Node, sponsored by Progressive Insurance Quote today at progressive.com, progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations covered subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. It's time for a break and then the waiver wire. All right. We are in the heart of the fantasy season and the injuries are already piling up. ACLs, Stingers and turf toes, oh my. In fact, the only thing right now that feels good is having the perfect backup ready to go. So wouldn't it be great if you had a perfect backup in real life too? With Progressive, you get more than just a policy. You get a playbook full of coverage options that you can count on for your home or for your auto. You want to customize your protection. No problem. You can build your coverage just like your fantasy team, making sure you've got the right players in every position and a backup plan when you need it most. And when life throws an audible,

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We will have a humongous week eight by situation. So it's worth mentioning, keep that in view. Yeah. If you are, if you avoided major injury and you're just like, I don't need anybody on the waiver. You're wrong because next week, the Cardinals, Jags, Lions, Raiders, Rams and Seahawks in week eight are all going to be out. And so plan ahead. Yeah, even then you don't pay fab. Even if it is simple as looking at next week's defensive matchups and just saying, oh, okay. I'm going to lose. There will be so much competition on the waiver wire next week because everyone's going to need people. Just grab them a week early. Yeah. And even if you don't grab them like compete for them immediately, check who was dropped and look on Sunday morning. You can make your plans for next week on Sunday morning too. But let's start at the running back position. Oh, get that hair silky smooth. Kamani Vidal-Saf soon is certainly the leader in the clubhouse here. Silky smooth.

It was an impressive 18 for 124. We got word. I don't know if we talked about it on the show yet that Amarine Hampton is likely to be gone longer than the four weeks. But that's an official report that that injury is more significant. And so there's some runway here. The amount of rumored trade interest that the Chargers have had. And it was more leading into this week than maybe what they saw from Vidal Sassoon was good enough to say, hey. Maybe we're okay here and we don't need to trade for someone, but they were rumored for a bunch of different people, Camara or Brees Hall or whoever. And I think when you hear the report that O'Marian, his injury is longer than four weeks mixed with that. With those rumors, it's like, oh, this, maybe, maybe it takes O'Marian, you know, a big chunk of the season before he comes back. Did you see the Brees Hall? Yeah, he said, free 20. Free 20. Yeah. Breast Hall is a social media. We are so back.

It's interesting because I if you're the Jets, it makes no sense to keep him. Like to even if you trade him, they say their value is probably a fifth round. And that's why they won't trade him. Oh, that's true. Like it made no sense to fake a punt and then not run a play. I mean, what? You think I'm drunk. Peyton talking about that play was incredible. It was like, it's Manning. No, did Sean Payton talk about the, the fake punt. Oh, okay. He's he's like. He's like, my wife knew that that was going to happen. Oh, okay. The fake point is like, Breece Hall's on, why is Breece Hall on the field? Why is the full offensive line on the field? But then they got it. Yeah, I know they got it. They don't run the play. Yeah. They don't run a play. They let the clock run out. That team is broken. Yeah. But back to running. They should. They should just get whatever. Well, you would get a fifth. Yeah. So that's what the market value rumor is. Does Bruce Hall sign a.

big enough contract at the end of the year to work for your compensatory picks. That would be, that's the equation. That's actually a really valid thought. He could sign and be like worth a third. Yeah. In your formula. The, um, the Vidal fab spin based on what we're talking about there is, I mean, there's a chance they trade for somebody. Certainly Vidal was barely on the roster bubble playing well now. They probably feel much better. But I feel like I'm 25 to 35%. It was a great week. But we've seen this before where, you know, you have a backup come and look great. And then it turns out that it's, you know, Woody marks. Yeah, exactly. Woody marks. Even Bill Krosky, who still got the workload, but just was more disappointing. I don't feel like Vidal is some guaranteed solution for the next five or six weeks. He's a possible solution for the next five or six weeks. I agree with that.

If Vidal will get the first shot, you have to give it to him after 18 for 124. But they could just, it could be hot hand. Like the report of it being Haskins, being the featured guy, it was wrong because it was Vidal like right away getting the opportunities. But if Haskins comes out and gets the hot hand, I think he will get the work. I don't think they're really committed to one guy or the other. What's the next name on your list outside of the big pickup of Vidal? It's not great, but it is Bam Knight from Arizona. Andy, you mentioned on the show, you thought Bam got hurt, but it was Demarcata who got hurt for the Arizona Cardinals. We don't currently have an update on that injury, but if it's Michael Carter and Bam Knight, it's at least consolidated. Who's the starter? I don't know. But if it's those two guys, they'll just split the work. And Bam Knight now has scored in back-to-back weeks.

The matchup is not great. It's Green Bay and then a buy week. But then you get down. The snap count for Michael Carter went from 58 to 44. Yeah, if you are needing a start, the only guys out there that I think you could pick up off of waivers and start Bam Knight and maybe Sean Tucker, who got a little bit more work as the backup this last week, got the touchdown. They're playing Detroit. Yeah, I mean, neither one's a great matchup. I guess Green Bay is, you know, probably an easier to run on team than Detroit. And then both are tough. Tage Spears was five for 31 and four targets, four for 19. I mean, Tony Pollard. I actually think he's a pretty good app. Tony Pollard's workload went down. The team is in shambles. They have Mike McCoy now as their head coach. This was the, you remember he was the RB 5, 12, and 13 to end last year? Oh, yeah, yeah. He did the exact same thing. He started the year hurt, scrambled for snaps, and then all of a sudden, obviously the injury to Pollard. But he is.

He would have juice if Paula went down and he could be a flex emergency play right now. Yeah, I think so. There's also the reminders that, you know, like March on Lloyd, if you're the Josh Jacobs manager in particular, he's eligible to return week six. He looked good in the preseason, back up for Green Bay. It would be worth a glance. And then Aaron Jones is coming back potentially week eight for the Vikings. Do you... Do you guys make anything of... And Jaden Blue? Yeah, oh, yeah. Jaden Blue should be stashed. The Pittsburgh Steelers, like Jalen Warren was his first week back. But he, you know, it was, he pretty much split with Kenneth Gainwell, who had six for 22. He also had six targets. Do you feel like that was just the one week that Warren is ramping back up to his workload? Probably. Probably to the point where like... But I mean, Gainwell had that huge game. So is it?

the Steelers feel more comfortable playing both guys now. I think they feel completely comfortable. I just think that if this was the acclamation game, even if Warren snaps go up just a little bit, this is not enough work to make you excited about Kenneth Gainwell. Yeah, for sure. I mean, this is Warren's team. And honestly, it could go the other direction too. I know Caleb Johnson's done nothing, but he had... He had the same amount of workload that Kenny Gainwell had that game. Yeah, it was really all three of them were playing. I think this was. Caleb was playing, huh? Yeah, he was. Yeah. So I think this is, I mean, Jalen Warren's team. And he is so doggone good. He's a dog. That play where he chips Miles Garrett, like pushes him almost off of his feet. And then.