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Week 16 Buy or Sell + Championship Week Mailbag, Idiot Savant Accuracy

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Yeah, it's just based on the options that you have. You make a good point. Moore has put great games together with bad quarterback performances because it's pretty much him in McCaffrey on the offense. You realize since week nine? So this is DJ Moore's pace since week nine. This is with Kyle Allen, but he would have been on pace for 110 receptions, 1,625 yards, and seven touchdowns. It's just so hard to bench a guy like that.

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Yeah, and Alan has had really big weeks during that stretch, multiple top 10 weeks. We'll see what he can do, what they can do this week. It's going to be very, very interesting. All right, let's go ahead and stay with the wide receivers. Hey, so ball, this is Nick, trying to decide between Will Fuller or Michael Gallup in the play. Thanks a bunch. Will Fuller or Michael Gallup? Did I hear that correctly? You did. That is a home run Michael Gallup to me.

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while Wolf Fuller has the top speed to catch big bomb and maybe you'll work out. Michael Gallup's been great. I really believe that. Now, you've been disappointed because he hasn't found the end zone in the last month and a half. But, you know, those, like we said earlier, you can't predict touchdowns the same way you can predict targets, yardage. And when yardage comes, touchdowns eventually come. Look at Julio. You know, he needed a touchdown based on the yardage he was getting. He got two this week.

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And in the five games prior to this last week, he's been averaging nine targets and over 90 yards a game is Gallup. Now you've got a plus matchup against Philly secondary that's giving it up to everyone. Howled Amari Cooper is definitely Gallup for me. All right. I agree. I mean, you can't trust Will Fuller right now. I can't get over DJ more. I can't move on. I'm just looking more and more at him. Do you realize since week eight, the last eight weeks?

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Where does he rank at wide receiver and fantasy football? Top 10? Top 5. Two. He's been unbelievable. Here's his fantasy finishes. 55 against San Francisco. Terrible. 2010. Thank you. That was good. I moved right past it. 20, 10, 15, 3, 14. 38, not great, but didn't kill you. 14. He's just been a beast. How do you sit him? He's like a Jamesis. You know, it's like, how do you sit a guy?

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whose situation stinks when he has been so good. Yeah, yeah. And I misspoke earlier when I said they play Denver. They play Indianapolis on the road this week. You're right? There's a variable there that wasn't there before. And we went through this with Cortland Sutton at one point in time, and it burnt you to question Sutton a couple of the weeks, and then it didn't burn you because, and that's the variable of rookie quarterback. There's...

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Problems, right? I mean, but at the end of the day, who's the best wide receiver to throw the ball to? DJ Moore. And what are the odds that they're playing from behind? I think pretty good. Yeah, pretty good. So garbage time has saved a lot of people. The Cooper Cup owners, the Amari Cooper owners, in recent weeks, garbage time, it still counts. I've laughed really hard because people can't handle garbage time. Oh, I know. And that includes you? Oh, yes, it does.

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But not to the, like, you can't handle it emotionally. But that's just fantasy football for you in general. For me, it's about the rankings. Like, we put all this work into ranking players certain places and projecting what they're going to be and giving advice. And then when you're right about a guy and you're just, you watch the whole game. And it's like, I told everyone said this guy, he sucked. And then in garbage time, he gets extra crab. And it's like, oh, no, I was wrong. I let people down. But I, but I was right. That's what I can't get over that.

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I get it, and it's frustrating. But I was laughing because I saw some people on Twitter talk about, like, we have the technology nowadays, Brooks, to kind of figure out when garbage time is and not count it. Like, we're going to decide what garbage time is and disqualify the points from garbage time in the platforms. I'm like, no. Yeah, I wouldn't go that far. People, this has become like a debate over the last few weeks because.

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You know, the frustration of fantasy football, the lows and the highs, the frustration of garbage time, the frustration of losing or not making the playoffs because you have more total points than another team, and then you feel like that's not fair. You guys don't understand. Fixing that is the dumbest thing that you can do to the game. You don't fix something like that. That's a feature. I believe that. It's a feature of the game is to feel.

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this way about it i i completely agree the bad beats the hard head-to-head matchup all of that it it's part of what we love and we because we love to hate it i mean genuinely like you want the emotional roller coaster of that's the fun of fantasy football and if you if you normalize everything then it's like okay the team that you expect to win wins more often and hoham and and

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You know, it takes the emotion out of it. I agree that that would be a wrong thing to fix. Side note, though, Matthew Berry tweeted out yesterday what platform thing you would change. And so I went with what I've been saying for years. And I commented on his thread, I would make quarterback rushing yards and passing yards all score the same. You know, quarterback gets 25 yards per point.

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However, he gets him because in the NFL, it doesn't matter whether you get five yards rushing or five yards passing. You get five yards. You're halfway to a first down. Every single, I mean, the amount of comments I had that were all just, someone hates Lamar Jackson. Someone lost to Lamar. It's all like Lamar Jackson comments left, right, and center. I've been saying this for years.

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I know you've been saying it for you. Oh, so you're putting it out there that this wasn't a reaction to Lamar Jackson. This is not reaction to Lamar Jackson. I love Lamar Jackson. I mean, right now, if that's how fantasy is, I want that cheat code. But when there's a cheat code. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's, it's true. I mean, that being said, Lamar Jackson is the MVP of football and the best quarterback in football. Absolutely. And it's because of his legs.

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Not just because of his legs. He leads the league in passing touchdowns. Sure. But it's a lot of it has. He also just broke the all-time record for rushing yards at the quarterback position. He just broke Michael Vicks record. It is a feature of Lamar Jackson. Yes. And I'm too old to want to reconfigure the way I think about all these quarterbacks to satiate you. That's fine. You don't have to play in my league. It's been a fun discussion. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I.

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I get it. Honestly, it's ironic because everyone thinks it's because of Lamar Jackson. He is the first example to me that I can remember where I go, I don't know. He's kind of proving that it. Oh, Russell Wilson's in that category too. His legs have changed the way that you view that kind of a player. Yeah, a little bit. But then you've got all the Tyrod Taylor's of the past and the guys that are like, okay, they're not really good, but their top 12 fantasy options. Tim Tebow used to do that too. Yeah. Yeah. I get where you're whining from.

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Cam Newton. He's great. Cam Newton was the MVP of football. Did you just use Nick? Cam Newton's another example. I think it makes fantasy more fun having those quarterbacks. Look, I love fantasy. And that's the way it is right now. So obviously I got no huge problem with them. I'm just saying that would be an upgrade for me. Brooks, you're my favorite person today. All right. Amanda, Amanda has a question from Facebook. Trust A.J. Brown against Latimore or use Waller in the flex.

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So that's an interesting question. Waller had a monstrous week last week, over 100 yards receiving, 10 plus catches. It is a PPR league. Full PPR. And while Hunter Infro is returning, it is not changing my opinion of Waller very much this week. So I would, I'd be looking at that situation.

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I'm it's very hard to bench AJ Brown because of the upside. I'm definitely AJ Brown here. You know, while I see the issue here in Latimore and the real test coming up for AJ Brown, he's been so dominant that I, you know, like I said earlier, I think he's going to pass the test. I'm ranking him as such as a top 15 wide receiver. But when you're talking about a wide receiver versus a tight end, when you look at the lines that you would set as to receptions, you're talking about a full PPR.

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What's the line for Darren Waller over under four and a half receptions? Is he going to get to that five mark? You know, when you talk about a wide receiver, it's like, is he going to get seven receptions, eight? And the receptions generally speaking are longer for AJ Brown. No, certainly. And I am a little, like I'm not moving off of Waller because of Hunter Renfro. But him coming back, there's a clear and obvious PPR connection. Change in Waller's targets. As soon as Hunter Renfro broke out.

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and started getting on the field, high snap counts, getting targets. Waller took a dip. As soon as Hunter Renfro left, Waller was back. Yeah. Now Hunter Renfro's back. Yeah, and for what it's worth, Pro Football Focus only has the cornerback matchup against Marshall and Latimore pegged as minus 4%. Well, that's because A.J. Brown's been awesome. Exactly. He has been a beater of coverages and a tank among men, as you would say. Tank brave Brown.

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No, that's bad. And you didn't even say it right. Oh, I didn't even say it. You're trying. Tank J. Brown? No. Tank J. Brown. I mean, it is something that you're saying over and over again. That's for sure. Well, what if I say it like this? Tang J. Brown. It's a little bit better. It's a little bit better. Thank you, Jay. Yeah. All right. This question comes in off of Facebook from Palmaris, James. Is Camara a trade target in Dynasty for next season? Interesting. So.

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I think he... He's in my head right now. Not in a good way by your face. Yeah, I've thought about Camara a lot in that context. I don't want to cut you off. Say what you're going to say, and then I'll share my thoughts. So I think this is a curiosity in my head, but you have two different running backs who had a high ankle sprain. And when they came back, have really struggled to look like the same player this year. And Sequin talked about...

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admitting that he feels a little less confident on these cuts right now. And so it's one of those things where I go, maybe this was that injury and coming back and they don't feel the same. And next year, Camara and Saquan are going to be the Camara and Saquan we see. That's the curiosity in my head. But talk about what you just wanted to talk about. Well, I've been thinking about whether, you know, because Camero is not the same player right now. No, he's not. That's definitive. Doesn't look the same on the field at all. There's also some.

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There's been some major regression in the touchdown category, and maybe part of it's just his, you know, his production and ability, but part of it's just luck, too. I mean, last year his season was historic in part because he was scoring so many rushing touchdowns. But it says something to me, like, do you remember at the beginning of the year when I brought up that little unconfirmed Sean Payton story?

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about Alvin Camara? I don't remember. Where they talked about Latavius Murray and it was quote, you know, it was a non-confirmed quote that he said Camara's soft. And here comes Latavius Murray, instantly signed and brought him in to be Ingram. This team is never going to look at Alvin Camarra. Now that you have another year of injury concern and he's had concussion problems, they're never going to look at Camara and be like, this is your backfield alone.

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Because they win without that philosophy. They've won with Ingram Camara. They've won with Murray Camara. So to me, there's not a situation where Camara is on the same plane as Christian McCaffrey or Saquan Barclay or somebody who has the backfield to themselves, which means that the touchdown predictability goes down. If you're sharing some backfield work with somebody who's likely bigger than you, there's a fear. Yeah, but I mean, he was two years ago. He was sharing the backfield with.

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Mark Ingram, who is better than Latavius Murray. And two years ago, he got 34 carries inside the 10. So far this year, and he missed a couple games. Only 11 carries inside the 10 for Camara. Last year, those 34 carries turned into 11 touchdowns inside the 10. All I'm saying is not that he's got good, just that I don't put him in the same echelon. So when you look at Keith, in a dynasty target category, if you target him,

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Don't target him like Christian McCaffrey. Don't target him as though you're buying low on Sequin Barclay. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, you're saying you're buying low on a second tier running back. So if you can't... Would you rather have Dalvin Cook or Alvin Camara in a dynasty league? Without a doubt. Okay. So what tier does that put Camara in for dynasty leagues? Probably tier three. So that's a downgrade. Yeah.

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Oh, it's a huge downgrade. I mean, he came into this year as a tier one running back. And the thing is about running backs is their shelf life is so short in Dynasty leagues that no matter whether they're great, Christian McCaffrey will be less valuable one year from now than you think he is. Here's a crazy question. It came in off of Instagram, piggybacks off of that one. This is from Jalenoff. Alvin Camara is on the road against Tennessee, okay?

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