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Fantasy Football - Sleeper Picks + Late Round Steals - Podcast for 8/18
Fantasy Football - Sleeper Picks + Late Round Steals - Podcast for 8/18
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for today's episode. We have to release a rating now. Great news. We did not get removed from the internet. What did he say? Yesterday had some moments in it. You got to go watch that show. That's a hot show. Yeah, just, you know. What did he say? It was wild.
it's another day it's another day of injuries we'll get into it on the news we always have to talk about injuries it is annoying um but we have let's hold off on that as long as we can yeah we have a segment at the top here performance climbers we've also got sleepers on today's show sleeper picks on the show today so that's very exciting these we got some ambient sleepers for you today we have some like deep
sleepers as they're going after it yeah calling some shots the rim a lot of rim um r em r em yeah i was one a rim sleep no like a lot of rims got there and wouldn't they call it rim yeah that's what i was that was the issue rim well now you said rim goodness eyes and ease you were saying rim a lot pronunciation has become a bigger issue on this show than ever before and i don't know why that is i was
Dude, I'm like, basketball, rim, double rim. It's hard to shoot in the park. And I have no idea where. I don't know where Andy's going with this one. But it was REM. Rim sleep. Yeah. Not to be confused with the band. R.E.M. Yeah. Yeah. It does seem like the end of the world right now. We're falling apart. The UDK for Life giveaway is going on. You still have a chance to get in there. We're going to do a live stream next Monday.
and give away a UDK for Life and a signed Jamar Chase jersey and probably some other swag and fun stuff like that. Maybe. Ultimate draft kit.com. This has been requested. I'm not sure why this gets requested. So if that doesn't persuade you. I don't see the appeal, but people love it. There you go.
We have a lot to cover today. We had a big signing in the world of the NFL, and it will have implications. They did it in the cover of darkness, too. What was that about? What's funny is we never, like we have a Slack channel for all the breaking news and anybody in the company that finds it can put it in there. Nobody ever linked an actual article in the channel last night. It was Jason breaking the news. Except not even breaking news. He just said,
in all caps he was just like oh come on yeah yeah this is this a sleeper episode and my sleeper today that i was all prepared for was josh downs who i still i still like i'm still willing to draft but not looking as good today as he was i don't know this time yesterday yeah so we'll we'll get into the signing of a veteran wide receiver there in just a moment but first performance climbers presented by gmc
Every week we've been looking at players that are moving up in their ADP, their average draft position, week over week in performance climbers, three names each and every week. This week, Jonathan Brooks, Terrence Ferguson, Marshawn Lloyd are the names we're going to discuss. Jonathan Brooks has been flying up draft. Boy, like, to a point where I think it is getting inappropriate. He's a rocket man. I saw someone who said they play in a...
It's a legit league that takes it very serious. They just had their draft. And Jonathan Brooks went in the sixth round. Holy schnikes. Yeah. And so that's... Is that bad? I mean, that's the question. I do think that's bad. I mean, yes. I mean, I...
I think it's earlier than is appropriate for a player who has yet to do anything is still, I believe, the backup and isn't on a team that projects. Like, let's say he wins the job. Obviously, if Chuba goes down and he's there by himself, great, but that's not what is being, you're not drafting for that. Otherwise, you'd be taking Blake Corum, you know, that he would be the better option if that's what you're trying to do. You're drafting this guy because you think, hey, he's younger, he's more explosive, good offensive line, they want to run the ball.
And he only has to overtake Chuba. He should. He could. But in that world where he does, Tuba's not going away. And it's not like you're on a great offense. So what is his like, what do you see as both players are healthy this year? Jonathan Brooks is the better player. Maybe even early in the season they make that transition. What's his bull case?
I mean, I think it's pretty high when you saw what Rico did last year for this very team, even in a world where people were starting Rico when Chuba was back, and they are the 10th highest run percentage team in the NFL. So to your point about the offensive line, I think it's about the first round talent, and it's about the upside of a team that wants to run the football a ton. I feel like Rico took over the league for a while last year. He did for a couple games. He had like a three-game stretch where he died.
potential than Rico does. Not that he will, I mean, like last year, Rico, you know. Everything about Jonathan Brooks is he could be a boat. Like he was... Where's JCM? Because you brought up Jacori Crosky right yesterday. If you could start a team today, are you taking JCP 10-10 times over Jonathan Brooks?
Because JCM's a seventh, eighth round pick, right? Not an eighth, but right now is a ninth round. Oh, are you saying in fantasy? Yeah. He was drafted in the NFL in like the seventh, eighth round. No, I said in, like, fantasy-wise, Jonathan Brooks is if he goes in the same round as JCM, I just feel like it's a similar situation. Who would you rather have? I would be taking Bill every single time because I feel quite confident that Bill is the starter right now.
It's certainly not for sure. And Rashad White may be far more time share than I think it's going to be. But it's like Brooks has done nothing except for get hurt. I'm okay with the bull case because I think if Jonathan Brooks hits, he's the top 24 running back. Like Rico had his time he took over. It got kind of messy there if you all remember of like it was, oh, Rico took the job and then he's.
And then coach is being coy about, well, who's the starter? And we all know it's supposed to be Rico. Then Chuba comes back and they're trying to say they don't want Chuba to lose his job to injury, but it was so clear that Rico was better on the ground. And then Rico became the starter again, then it went back and forth. So I don't hate the idea of drafting Jonathan Brooks, but the fact that he was running back 58 in early June on Sleeper. And he is now the running back 35. Like this is.
This man's in a different stratosphere. Well, I don't think we knew anything about his health and whether they were confident with him in the beginning of the summer. Rico was 51% of the carries last year and 10% of the targets, and I think people are just looking for higher upside value later. I guess I find myself slightly...
more on the Brooks side of things where I am too it's just six would you would you be intense I would take them over JCM what about what about Dobbins jk. Dobbins I would probably take Brooks wow yeah mostly because I love Jonah Coleman who could have easily been a sleeper name on today's show and I don't like R.J. Harvey and I don't trust Dobbins to stay healthy nor be kind of like he was a late signing a late re signing by Denver so like I think part of the plan
in the draft to see what happens. But is the future JK Dobbins? I don't think so. So I don't know. Long term, but I think this year it's definitely Dobbins. Yeah. So, I mean, Jason, you didn't answer. Are you JCM or Jonathan Brooks? I would be JCM. I loved Jonathan Brooks's film, but it's really tough coming into year three on a team that I still don't think is a great offense. And I believe that while he is going to be the more explosive back,
I don't believe it will be a situation where now he is the only back in town. Chuba is a solid veteran there that hasn't looked bad. And so he'll be involved. So if this just becomes a timeshare, I worry about that. I think it's easier for JCP to beat Rashad White than it is for Jonathan Brooks to beat Chuba. I think that's my argument. I think Brooks is taking the job. It's just the, at what point?
And when he does, is it actually valuable enough to start everything? I will say if he gets the job entirely, if he just wins and they're like, hey, this is the future of our team. We're going to unleash him two years ago, Chuba, for the Panthers. He was the running back 13. So maybe the bowl case for Brooks is that. And I think that's when people are drafting him. They truly think he will be a top 15 running back if he.
wins that job. That's the part I'm a little bit more skeptical of. The second name, Terrence Ferguson. If you don't know him, tight end, second year guy for the Los Angeles Rams. Somebody that I think we hoped would have success in a bigger way for fantasy last year. This is a tight end room. I know there's excitement around Ferguson, but it does have Colby Parkinson, who is the starter on the depth chart. Tyler Higby is still there. Davis Allen, who his Flash is still there.
I believe Max Clare was the draft pick, right? Yeah, it's a very, very busy. Like, I don't know what 12 personnel is. If you start four tight ends at the same time, I don't know what that becomes number-wise. But let's talk about Terrence Ferguson because he's up about around. I think some people are excited. Pooka's dealing with the groin. I guess I feel a little bit like Sean McVeigh has fooled me a few times on. He certainly has. I mean, even going back to like. Gerald Everett? Gerald Everett. Like, I feel like.
they are like almost willing to just throw the ball to any tight in that's open ever. They're willing to throw everybody off the scent. Yeah. We will draft this player in the second just to trick you. Yeah. I think that the part of the reason that we feel fooled by McVeigh with different players, whether it's Alan Robinson or or Gerald Everett, it's actually in part because.
Sean McVeigh has gotten so much fantasy value out of so many different people. Cooper Cup was a sensational superstar. You're chasing a best case scenario. Pooka, a fifth rounder all of a sudden is literally maybe the best wide receiver in football. And so you're saying if you have talent and you put them on this offense, maybe something truly special could happen. And that's the argument for Ferguson is you look at how many, you know, Kobe Parkinson was a touchdown machine.
