Fantasy Football - Sleeper Picks + Late Round Steals - Podcast for 8/18

It really, really sucks. It takes the ceiling case that I've been making for Tyler Shuck. It really damages that. I still believe in Shuck as a fantasy quarterback. He was on pace for over 4,200 yards without Jordan Tyson when he took over as the sleeper. The conversation of, you know, we were talking George Kittle and saying, you know, Jake, if Kittle doesn't play the first couple weeks, Tongis is a great backup. Juan Johnson.

overtakes that now of someone who... Just another name to add to the late tight-in list. And you really should be paying attention. Like Joanne Johnson... I might not draft any early tight-ins. I'm starting to fall in love with all the late... There's so many late guys. I mean, you can bring Kincaid, Goddard, likely, Joon Johnson. I mean, and there's more. Ferguson. There's a lot. I will remind you, there is almost... When we hit this point in the other, there almost is always a ton of guys. We're like, they're kind of interesting.

They're pretty interesting. And then we get into week two and we're like, they all stink. Yeah, I mean, it's true. But the process does work. But Joanne Johnson has the, he has been making tons of plays in training camp. Like the, you know, the, the drumbeat for Tyson was extremely loud. It has been loud for Joanne Johnson, but it felt like, okay, if we have Olave and if you have two top 10 wide receivers on the field.

How was there enough for Joanne Johnson? But now they have Barry and Brown as well who's been making a ton of deep sleeper. I would imagine valet will be the one who comes in and is the starter opposite. And I mean, if you're talking, Bryce Lance was a fourth round wide receiver as well. Yeah. You're familiar with the. I'm familiar with the Lance boys in their work or lack of work. Breeze Hall groin injury out two to three weeks according to Aaron. Come on, man.

Matt LaFleur said Josh Jacobs started doing butterfly stretching and we'll return to practice today. Yes, thank you. Jason has been trying to tell you guys. I had to DM, Josh, about this. How far do you get in your butterfly? I don't get as far as I want. I'm not knees on the ground. No, nowhere. Yeah, but you know who doesn't have a groin injury right now? Jason Moore. That's right. I don't. Rams head coach, Sean McVease at Puka is still dealing with sorenness in his groin. I'll DM him.

By the way, I'm going to apologize to everybody. Groinindex.com has not been what we've made. It's not our fault. These have not been officially reported groin injuries. These are just on the lowdown. Like, I don't know. These are unofficially official. When the season starts. The groin index is tied into the official reports on the injury report, unfortunately. Yeah, a week before the season. We don't have the groin rumor index.com. We should look into that.

I will say it's very good news because should these have beneficial, I can't imagine groin index could have handled this amount of work. It probably would have, it's just like too much data. Would have broken the site? Yeah. Our hard drive is not large enough. Do meat groins. Do butter flying scratches. The Giants are signing. Can we just put a picture like of how to on there for in the time being? Yeah, we can try. Yeah. Let's get that. Let's get that done. Get the devs on it. I want a.

Instructional diagram for butterfly stretching. The Giants are signing former Steelers and Chargers running back. Naji Harris to a one-year contract. It's so courteous of them calling him a former Chargers running back, isn't it? I... Yes. That's really how it's being reported. I mean, it's true, but former Chargers... So some depth here? I think there might be more to it. What say you of such? Noges a great pass protector.

And Tyrone Tracy did his very best to get Jackson Dart murdered in a preseason game. I think they might be also concerned about like, is Scadaboo ready to go? I think there is, there could be something to this. When I look at this running back core, I thought one of the best in the league. Like without, without nod to you're talking about a young stud in Scataboo.

You know, Tracy a capable backup. Tracy is very capable. And Devin Singletary, he's still fine as a veteran as your third back. I looked at this group like, wow, what a good core. The fact that they went out and signed Najee said they don't think, they feel that they have a need.

And so that makes me concerned with scataboo a little. I mean, Najee's coming off in Achilles injury at an older age. Yes. I feel like maybe it was more. I don't know if it will work for the Giants. I'm just saying like this, this is a signal to me that they're concerned about some things. And it's Gero, man. Yeah. Gero apparently loves Najee Harris. He's familiar with his work.

or lack thereof. He's like, if he had been healthy, my whole season would have been better. It makes me a little more hesitant on the Scataboo ADD. You'd be surprised if Scataboo was dominating and doing everything. He's just taking over practice that they would go out and sign him. Now, I will say this. I don't feel like he's the, I think the name is bigger than maybe the real signing. Could be. Like if Nick Chubb got signed right now. Right. Do we, that's how I look at it maybe is the, but.

Like does he make the team? Well, that's what I was just about to say. That's what I was about saying. The one-year deal. Exactly right, Andy. If he makes the final roster, then I'm a little bit concerned with Scataboo's ADP right now. We're getting the butterfly stretch up there. All right. Let's jump into sleepers. Sleepers. I want you to get up on this desk and kind of demonstrate.

Oh, sure. What they're, no. Sleepers. We have a bunch of consensus sleepers in the Ultimate Draft Kit at Ultimate DraftKit. These are our individual picks and some of these kind of deeper sleepers, deeper sleepers today. We define sleepers as players who are drafted later that... Or maybe not drafted. Or not drafted. Players you might not know about, but could have an impact. Three names. I went with a wide receiver. Jason, a running back. Mike, you went with a wide receiver. Why don't you start because...

I'm sure your energy is very high for this gentleman. It is, and this is a deeper sleeper where perhaps this is not a draft situation. But, you know, a larger leagues, I'll be interested in this player. I'm talking about Pat Bryant, second year wide receiver of the Denver Broncos. The drumbeat of camp is deafening about Pat Bryant. Every, like,

I've seen so many interviews of just of teammates. They're saying, okay, who's the guy? Who's the guy in this year? Pat Bryant. All of them are saying Pat Bryant. Coach Peyton is infatuated with Pat Bryant. He's talking about him all the time of, you know, like, Kay Adams, how are you going to keep him off the field? We're not, is the answer from Coach Peyton. Even Vance Joseph, the DC is talking up Pat Bryant.

So just a couple of stats here. It was slow for him, but it's always round three or later wide receivers. They just, they don't make noise at the beginning of the year historically. When you look at the gigantic sample size, but towards the end of the year, he really was starting to do some stuff. From week 11 on, he was averaging six targets, targeted on 22% of his routes. If you remember the playoff games,

There was some unfortunate injuries, but you had the game against Buffalo. Papright took three offensive snaps in that game. Pep right had three receptions for 32 yards on three snaps. He was really becoming a part of the offense. You have, it's a little bit more murky. You have Jalen Waddle and Cortland Sutton.

But just all reports talking about Pat Bryant being the guy. Maybe he even overtakes Cortland Sutton this year. Is there enough volume? Well, last year, Bo Nix led the NFL and pass attempts. I don't know if the Denver Broncos are going to lead the NFL and pass attempts again, but it's there. The coaches are willing to go that route if they feel like this is how we have to win games. And this stat in particular is very interesting to me. He is one of five.

Round three wide receivers over the last decade to average six or more targets from week 11 on. And I'm telling you, round three guys really don't do anything in the first half of the year. But from week 11 on to average six or more targets, here are the rookies who did it. Terry McLaurin, Deontay Johnson, Cooper Cup. Here's a clunk, Lynn Bowden, Jr., if you remember him. But Terry, Deontay Cooper Cup and Pat Bryant, like.

The volume was starting to increase. You saw it in the playoff games. He got knocked out early from both of them. But he looks like he's the real deal. He's a great route runner. You know, you had Coach Peyton when they drafted him saying, kind of see a little bit of Michael Thomas. Now, maybe that's just hyperbolic coach pumping him up. But the way that it is transformed to this off season, the Denver Broncos seem like they are all in on Pat Bryant.

taking a huge step for their offense. I think the interesting thing about Denver in the wide receiver room in the running back room is that there isn't a consolidation that is obvious to us in terms of the utilization of, you got three running backs that are going to get a bunch of snaps. And then my biggest worry about Brian is just the existence of like the Sutton- Of course. Franklin universe. Can we get consolidation in your opinion to the point where? I do. Where Pat Bryant, you know, takes over.

I do think that watching Cortland Sutton over the last couple years, he is still a, he's still a starter. He deserves to be out there on the NFL field. But we're towards the end for Cortland Sutton. And if you have a new emerging wide receiver who, if you play him all the time, your offense is better, Peyton strikes me as someone who will make that change. There are few to perhaps none.

of any players this offseason who I who I've read more constant positive news about them, Pat Bryant. He is really truly like every time that there's an open practice, there's tons of different reporters. It's not just the guys from Denver, everyone everywhere, any kind of interteam scrimmage. It's like he has been the big leap forward guy. And I think it's important to realize.

those day two day three picks they do get off to slow starts in their rookie year that is that is you know when you bring up the second half of the year for pat bryant and how good he was that's pretty much all you are asking like that's that is that's what you can look at that's what you can look at to see success in future years and so i i don't know where what you do i mean to me this is more of a dynasty take like i don't know if i'm drafting him and redraft

at the end of drafts are not just to hope that he's on the field. You can, and perhaps he, you know, he starts week one and overtakes Cortland Sutton in target order, if not in snaps. But in the Dynasty League, he's got a much brighter future than what his rookie year looked like. So the value should be under what, you know. Sure. I am also bringing him up, like I said, I don't know if this is a draft Pat Bryant, but this is a, in the first few weeks.

if like the auxiliaries, you know, so the amount of routes he's running, maybe the production doesn't match it. He is a player that if he starts making noise, I will be aggressive on the waiver wire. Sometimes you just have to be, we bring these names up so that you are ready when we're like, hey, the number one waiver pickup this week. If there's smoke, you know, and the fire starts to go, pick them up. You want to go next? You want me to go, Jay.

I'll hop in. I'll hop in. Since you guys both have wide receivers, I'll go with a running back. My sleeper this year is Jordan Mason. I've brought him up on pretty much every mock draft. He's the guy in the later rounds I am looking for to fill out. Running back for the Vikings. Yes, running back for the Minnesota Vikings, for Kevin O'Connell, and for the new running game.

for the Vikings. I don't know if you guys are aware, we're not in Minnesota, but the biggest news outside of the quarterback battle is all about the change of scheme. Kevin O'Connell has talked about it in every single interview across the board that their big takeaway lesson from last year is that they need to rely on their defense and run the ball better. So starting the day after their last game last year,

They got together and they changed their scheme. They're going to a vertical wide zone scheme. The entire reason is to fit their personnel, they said. That's the San Francisco. That's the San Francisco, you know, design. That's their scheme. They're implementing that because it fits their personnel and their personnel is really.