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Offseason dynasty show presents the Trending or Ending format, Bijan landing-spot fantasies, and staff debate over mock-draft values.
I would like to personally apologize for the introduction that you are about to receive. I want to let you know that the show after that moment is awesome. Just stick with us. Enjoy the show. Leave your comments. And again, our sincerest apologies for what is about to come right now. To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in, one and all. Excuse me. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Excuse me. What was that? An honest mistake. What are you doing over there? That's it. We're done. It was an honest mistake. I'm getting distracted by emojis in the Slack channel. The music caught me too quick and then it was just to welcome. Well, is this show ruined? We are not welcome. That's what I learned today. Episode 1388.
We're not welcome. I think is Mike's fault. Yeah, that's me. That's on me, everybody. Thursday, March 23rd. To be fair, what I shared was hilarious and you will never, ever know what it was. I just saw it. Good work, Mike. I'm sorry, Foot Clan. Welcome into the show. Trending or ending on the show today, NFL news, including a trade that just went down as of this recording time. and some mailbag. The deucers are here. Today we've got Al Borland, Judge Diamati, and Papa Josh in the building. The baldness has increased. Shave your head, Jeremy. Yeah. I mean, for the good of the group. Yeah. Okay. Should the deucers be unified with. Oh, my gosh. That would be so good for the show. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I think it's part of the employment contract. Right now people walking around, they're going like, oh, what was that one show? What was that one show? And they don't remember. But if you're all bald, it'd be like, oh, it was the one show with the three cue balls, the cue ball producers. There's the ballers, and then there's the balders. Hmm, nice. Think about it, okay? All right. You're the last man standing. Now, Kyle's got some hair. Yeah, and well, you know. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. He's not here. He's not here. The mailbag on the show today. A couple reminders. You can find us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. I encourage you to check out our personal Twitter accounts, including Mr. Jason Moore's at Jason FFEL. He just threw up a very fun tweet. Oh, the Bejohn tweet. Where he was ranking all of the different locations that Bejohn Robinson could.
go to and uh in order of like kind of best case worst case yeah it started as a personal selfish exercise where i just simply wanted to know like what teams do i want him to go to and not want him to go to so i just i sorted all the teams ranked him out first to last and uh found out i really don't want him going to the jets that's for sure you you found out well i mean i knew yeah i mean i we could walk through it a little bit i i actually think we should sure Um, because this is the Bijon minute. Beeson minute. All right. We don't have a drop yet. If you can't tell. Uh, here's, here's your best of the best. You said the Los Angeles charges in Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, because both of those situations, the only way they bring on Bijan is no more mixing, no more.
Eckler. Exactly right. And they're going to automatically go into a role where it is massive workload on awesome offenses. That's best of the best case scenario. All right. So let's move on from best of the best, which I can, Mike, do you agree with those two? You see that as being premier spots? Yeah, assuming that the starting running backs are on a different team, then yeah, I'd agree with that. Here's where it gets a little more interesting. I think I agree with two thirds of this next one. Okay. Maybe, maybe all of it. Dallas, okay, year one, you're going to have Tony Pollard there, but you're looking long term, I get it, makes sense. Kansas City, the Chiefs, that's the one where I'm a little bit, like, let's discuss it, and then the Falcons, where we know what they want to do, they want to run the football, still need a quarterback if I want to be, if Bijon wants to be that, you know.
top three guy. Yeah, the best part of the Falcons, and they should probably be first in this tier, is that they're picking at number nine. So if they pull the trigger, the draft capital says he's the dude, you're not worried about anything else. You know, when you get a running back draft in the top 10, they're going to touch the ball, you know, more than anyone else on the team easily. And if they give Bijan the ball that much, he's going to do great work. When it comes to the Cowboys and the Chiefs, well, the Cowboys... We know they want to run the ball, right? That's what they've been talking about. They release Ezekiel Elliott, who got enough work even with Tony Pollard that Bejohn would be fine. And Tony Pollard's on a one-year franchise deal. They would probably move on later. The chiefs are simply this. I've used that experiment before. No, but it's very, very, very different. You're talking about when they brought on Clyde Edwards-Layer, they drafted him with the 32nd pick. Oh, he's first rounder, yada, yada. Coming off a Super Bowl? My pre-draft.
scouting on Clyde Edwards-Alaire. He was my running back six in that draft class. I did not think he was that talented. And, you know, that has, that has come to fruition. Bejohn is actually an, an unmissable prospect. He might not be, yes. He might not be the, you know, best running back of all time, but he's not not great. He is great. He can't, he can't miss. Why say it that way? Andy Reid has a history. You don't think he can be a miss? Andy Reid, I don't think he can be a flat out miss. I think he could be a bust based on expectations, but I do not think Bejohn. I watch me some AP collegiate highlights. The best of all time. And they're the only thing that make Bejohn's highlights look pretty bad. When people talk about is the so-and-so is the best since AP. It's like, you can't.
Go watch what AP did in college. It was humiliating to all other players on the field and absurd. So Kansas City, it would be the same pick. Yeah, presuming they don't trade up for it. It would be the same pick as... That's right. And, yeah, you've got Pacheco, who's fine as a seventh round pick, and you've got... Oh, he would be out. Right. That's my point is it really would be out. You have a history when you've got great players, when Kareem Hunt and his rookie... age was a part of the chiefs. He was unbelievable. Jamal Charles, unbelievable. LaShaul McCoy, unbelievable. Brian, Brian Westbrook. When you've got a super talented running back, they're going to get the most out of it. I guess you're right. If it happened, it's the it happening. That's such a long shot there. But if it happened, Kansas City and then Atlanta, your sneaky good destinations, again, more interesting here. Minnesota, Philadelphia, Chicago.
Houston, Miami, and Buffalo. Yeah, I mean, these are, these are offenses that I think either, like in the case of Houston Texans, will be entirely Bijan's team or offenses that are good, like the Vikings, the Eagles, the Bills, the dolphins, those teams will have so many scoring opportunities. And one of the things you have to realize is whatever team does pull the trigger on Bijon is doing it with. a lot of capital. So they are going to invest. So, you know, the Dolphins just resigned Rahim Moster and Jeff Wilson. They don't have a first. Sure. I mean, I put all 32 teams in here. The likelihood of the dolphins actually drafting Bijan minuscule to nothing. Absolutely. I don't think that the world exists where that happens. But it's like you said with the chiefs. If a team drafts him that will after the fact be like, oh, well, they are super in on him. There's just no other way you get a hold of him.
I'm not going to read them all, obviously. You can go check them out on Jason's Twitter at Jason FFL. I will read the five in your worst list. The Jets at the very bottom because, now this is because they have Brees Hall. This is my Brees, baby. Don't touch my Brees. And they wouldn't. That would make no sense. Seattle. That's the scariest one because that one. That would be a Kenneth Walker. I mean, that is a, that would be bad. That would be bad. And that would be their second pick in the first round, around pick 20. It's like a perfect spot for him. I have already discussed briefly the idea of live streaming the first round. Like we did the simulcast, right, with the horrific Colts game. And I have not run this by you guys at all. I know we do the reflection of the first round, live stream the next day. Right. I'm not opposed.
to sitting here and watching Jason react to every bejean or non-beijon pick. I can be talked into it, but the only time we're on camera is when the pick is in and Goodell's walking up and he reads the pick. The other time will be filled with the deucers like juggling. Okay. You're right. There's a lot of time. Circus acts of some kind. Jeremy, I'm in on that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. Yeah, that's when he shaves it. No, we'll, at a minimum, we'll be videotaping. There'll at least be security camera footage of Jason's reaction. The other three bad ones, the Colts, obviously Jonathan Taylor, Pittsburgh, that's because.
You believe, you know, the Najee Harris problem? Yeah. So, and the Niners with CMC. The most feedback I got that was negative on this is people refuse to believe in Najee. Like, Najee is nothing to them. Naji is very good. No, I would put up a fight on that one, too, because it's the same argument. Like if he goes to Pittsburgh, he's Pittsburgh's guy. There's no way that Naji hurts him. Naji has over 700 opportunities in two years where he's been great with them. I can't imagine a world where it would become, that would be a time share. That would be those two are in a time share. Again, not going to happen. I don't see the 49ers. That's just Christian McCaffrey. I mean, you know. All right. We will move on the ultimate draft kit available for presale right now. If you get the UDK Plus, you get instant access to the Dynasty Pass. We just released a new content update, post-combine. Do not miss your opportunity to check out the newest rookie rankings.
uh some of the trade targets from the hitman himself and uh some more dynasty stuff coming your way soon it's the lowest possible price right now ultimate draft kit dot com let's do this for a quick question trending or ending all right trending or ending Aaron Jones will he finishes the top 12 fantasy running back again he's done it somehow four consecutive years. This past year did not make sense. I don't know if there's a player that feels less like they've done that than Aaron Jones. Because he's the kind of player that gives you the four touchdown or three touchdown week with a big reception. Or sometimes it's just not his week. Or two total rushing touchdowns on the year. Yeah, I mean, he had 1100 yards, just 213 carries, 72 targets.
But losing Aaron Rogers, almost guaranteed losing Aaron Rogers. I think the odds of him going to the jets might not be 100%, but the odds of him leaving the Packers seem to be 100%. It seems very high. I was talking to the guys earlier this morning of saying, I've now moved into, as it's kind of a Jason Moore mentality of, let's just watch something burn down for a little bit. Let's just watch some chaos of. both the jets dig in, the Packers dig in, training camp rolls around, and then Rogers just shows up to camp. Oh, yeah. Because he's like, I'm on the roster. I'm here. What are we going to do about this? Play ball. Some people brought up that maybe we were too hard on Aaron Rogers or that like we need to blame the Packers because look, they've done this before. They've, they had a messy ending with Brett Favre. Now they're doing another messy ending with Aaron Rogers. And I was thinking about that.
And I think it's just the nature of every great quarterback's kind of sunset years. This is not exclusive to the Packers. Tom Brady divorced the Patriots, right? Joe Montana divorced the 49ers and went to the Kansas City Chiefs. Like there is a time when the franchise and the player are both kind of, they've just had enough of each other. And it just never seems to be. It's not elegant, right? There's not an elegant departure of the. the face of your franchise, it seems like, if they want to play football again. Yeah, it's a tough, tough situation. But it's one that I think most franchisers would want to eventually find themselves in. Yeah. Because it means you had a great quarterback now in the twilight and you've got to worry about the future. But presuming he is gone. I cannot see Aaron Jones being a top 12 running back this next year. Most of his touchdowns the last two years have been in the passing game. 11 touchdowns receiving over the last two years. 72 targets this past season.
We don't know exactly how Jordan Love is going to play, but I'm going to assume it's going to be less than the two-time in the last three years MVP quarterback Aaron Rogers. Scoring opportunities will be slightly down. Passing volume is probably going to be down. And this is a team then that will be playing more for the future. I mean, they're going to be playing to win now, but obviously they're planning and they're... identity is going to have to be remade. And Aaron Jones is much more part of what they were than what they are going to be. Do you want a low, there's not a lot of substance to this statistic, but I want to share it anyway. Yeah, meaningless thing. Go ahead. In the past three years, Aaron Jones only has two games played where he did not have a single reception.
And one of those games was when Jordan Love played the entire game. Okay. Yeah. But you said meaningless. Yeah. I'm just saying like you can't extrapolate one game out. But the way that you said the end of this dad was with so much emphasis that it made it seem like it had a lot of meaning. Honestly, if I. Well done. Well done. Small sample size. One game. If I look at games. played with luck he's got a season with with jordan love he's got a season total pace of no receptions mike that's see that's the point i was driving home yeah career stats would be zero with love um i will say that i am with jason in that i don't think he will finish there but i do believe it's a possibility because i think that this offense um the pieces around jordan love you know can he move the offense down the field
Can it be a run-centric offense that protects Jordan Love? I think that that could happen. I think LaFleur is a good coach, and Aaron Jones is a good enough player to where you can build the entire offense around Aaron Jones. That can be your identity, and I would be trying to, you know, Alvin Camara him, like use him as much as you can as your identity if you want to succeed this year. Is this the year? The Packers take a first round wide receiver. That would be one of the most entertaining things on the face of the planet. It's just like how Seattle refused to draft offensive linemen. And then when they got rid of Russell, it's like, dude, we're going to go, we're going to build this through our line. Would you like them to make the Rogers trade before the pick or after the pick? Oh, I want them to take a wide receiver and then trade Aaron Rogers. I want them to.
Trade Aaron Rogers and use the pick that they're getting back for a wide receiver. These are all good options. Mike, are you, what is your answer here? Eileen with you, Andy, he's so good that he, if he plays, you know, let's put him at 15 games. If he's at 15 games, he should be a top 12 guy. He's just sitting there as this like obvious case for a reduced draft cost. Yeah, that's fair. So. We'll be interesting. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league. Welcome to the news. Damien Harris signed a one-year deal. I see what you did there. With the bills. I don't like it. For $1.7 million. The Damien Harris signing I like very much. Listen to this. I sat down at my kitchen table a couple nights ago and I almost tried to draw.
the like circle chart of rotation of these running backs getting one year deal is like james robinson to the patriots and then damien harris is now going to the bills and then from the bills devon singletary goes to the texans and like they are just rotating these one year deals where they're barely getting paid any money and look do i think damian harris is any different than devon singletary nope Yeah, he's not much different. It doesn't mean he doesn't have value. It just seems like the same thing. He's a very solid running back. I think that Devin Singletary, solid running back, Harris, solid running back. The question is going to be, will Harris run ahead of James Cook or behind James Cook? Last year, if you look at rushing percentage, you had Devin Singletar with 41% of the rushing attempts and James Cook with 21%. Does that become more like...
30% and 30% and they share the load and split it evenly. No matter what, I think this is a negative for James Cook. Some people disagree with that. They say this is a great signing for James Cook because they're not going to bring in someone over the top of Damien Harris. It's really a matter of what you believe about Damian Harris. I believe he's a very solid running back that will absolutely be getting a lot of carries. He's a bigger running back than James Cook. He's an injury prone running back. That is fair. Obviously, you know, in any backfield that's shared, when an injury happens, the other running back provides a lot more fantasy value. My view of it is simply that these are two guys that put on different superhero uniforms for the weekend. Like it's just very different skill sets, very different capabilities. And I think they're, you know, which one's riding the bike and which one's in the sidecar? I'm not sure. I think it might be week to week. We were so frustrated with this with the bills over the years, right?
Matt Berita had a breakout period with the bills. Yes, he did. So I don't view it personally as anything different than how I view James Cook with Devon Singletary. His potential for a breakout is still there. You know, Jason, you were not intimidated by James Robinson joining the Patriots. Correct. So that means you're obviously your belief is that Damien Harris is a step up from. James Robinson. You see me. But both players are not getting a lot of financial commitment. It's my point. Yep. That's fair. McCull Hardman, one year deal with the Jets. And more importantly. Much more importantly. Jets are trading Elijah Moore and a third round pick to the Browns for their second round pick. Good for you. Elijah Moore. This is the way that Elijah Moore just has a chance. I don't think it's a guarantee. Voldemort.
needs to get back to his previous ability as a quarterback for Elijah Moore to be relevant. But Elijah Moore was buried and dead on the Jets. The Jets have gone out, signed multiple wide receivers. They did not have Elijah Moore as part of the plan. So this is great news. A lot of fantasy managers drafted Elijah Moore in their dynasty leagues and they don't know what to do with them. Well, now you've got hope. And presumably he is the wide receiver too. It could be Donovan People Jones, but he will be the slot wide receiver. David Bell, still there. I believe he'll be the primary slot wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns. Hope is the word. It's some hope. Ronald Jones, a one-year deal with the Cowboys. If he's on the starting roster, I don't know. You'll drink a gallon of milk. I'll be shocked.
Yeah, he sounds like the kind of guy like you're like, can we get somebody that we can cut later. Yeah, he's, that's disrespectful to Super Bowl winning Ronald Jones. Yeah, Super Bowl champion. How much was the deal? I think he has two. Does he have two? Yeah, I saw someone say, yeah, multi Super Bowl winning Ronald Jones. Also, last year did play in many games and had a total of 70 yards on the season. Dearness Johnson signed a one-year deal with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Get used to the one-years, man. These one-years are just floating around. That one's interesting because, like. Jamichael Hastie had relevance for a bit. Well, Jamichael Hastie's a different skill set than Deeris Johnson, but it was kind of that if you were holding on to the long dynasty hope for like Snoop Connor is probably not going to go well. This is, I think this is good news for Travis Etyn.
Sure. There was a report, I think it was around the senior bowl or something came out where they were talking about how they want to add more running backs to the roster. And so as a Travis E.TN Dynasty manager, I started to get a little bit worried. They said, look, you got to keep these guys. Is that why you sent me that crap offer? Yep, that it is. And that's why I sent half the league crap offers. Can we hear it? It wouldn't mean it wasn't. It wasn't crap crap, but it was like, it was ETN and Boston. It was ETN and two thirds for Garrett Wilson. Yeah, there it was. I mean, look, I said yes. Sometimes we just put it out there and then see how the person who made the offers faced.
Yeah. Malformed. It's not the end of the world. It's not trash trash. I didn't go crap. If you really needed a running back and somebody really needed a wide out, there is a world where they might counter that. What I did. Yeah. It would be a place that we start. What I did was I need a wide receiver. I've got a loaded running back room. So I just shotguned. I went to like the top wide receivers and said, how can I try to turn Travis Zetian into a top wide receiver? But a part of that was because. The multiple thirds, I think, made it worse. If I just offered ETN, you'd feel better about it? Can you throw these away for me? So anyways, Doug Peterson was talking about how they want to add more running backs to their running back room. And so I was worried. But if you're bringing Deerunis Johnson, and he also talked up Snoop Connor, ironically, in that same time. And you have Michael Hastie. Now if these are the four running backs, I'm all about Travis E.TN. That's great.
We talked about Ronald Jones de Ernest Johnson. Isaiah McKinsey won your deal with the Colts. You know, Paris Campbell just left and here's Isaiah McKinsey. All right. Did we say Paris Campbell was on the Giants last show? I don't remember if that got covered. We did. Okay. We mentioned it briefly. We did not cover it. Okay. Just. We did not share any analysis. Let the people know that it had happened. The athletic is reporting there's a good chance the Broncos out of running back in the draft. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds right. I believe that is the same thing we said here when they signed P-Ride. I said there's a good chance they're adding a running back in the draft because they will need to. You know, unfortunately, Javante is not going to be ready. It'll be very interesting to see where. If they add a day two running back and they signed Samajai P-Rine, then that's the... Death Nell for... It's the answer to the questions of how's Javante's health right now? How's he looking for this season?
I think answer to the questions is a better phrase than death now. Yeah. That's a little extreme. Death now seemed like no future. Yeah. I hope Giovante comes back to full strength. It just won't be this season. Pro football talks Mike Floreo reporting Lamar Jackson has told other teams he's ready to move on from the Ravens. Man. I believe. How have we heard nothing about this? I believe that. Children are our future. Sorry, go on. I believe Lamar Jackson will be a patriot. Oh, he's putting it out there. Okay. And I think DeAndre Hopkins might be one too. Interesting. So they're going Rams of screw these picks. I think Bill Belichick, oldest coach in the league, second oldest behind Pete Carroll? I think Pete Carroll is the oldest. Somehow.
The time is running out here. Third year with Mack Jones, almost benched multiple times for zap, zap, zap. And I know it's going out on a limb. I mean, they have to move picks, and they'd have to move picks for Hopkins. But I think Lamar, I think Lamar could be a patriot. And I think this is the kind of move. Like they've had those moves as a franchise throughout the history of the team. Randy Moss's arrival. Some of these impact signings. Have you seen the last eight wide receivers they've drafted in a list? Yes. They are. Did you throw up? I kept it in my mouth. I had to re-swallow. But I did. Nikiel Harry might be the big winner of the group. Yeah, compared to the other names. I mean, we don't know about Thornton. Thornton yet. All right, quick break back with the mailbag. Into the mailbag we go. I'm going to hit this drop.
You ready, Mike? Yeah. Mailbag. All right, if you have a question for the show, go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click that, submit a question button. Dial the voicemail hotline, 302464, TFFB. We have a voicemail question. Hey, ballers. This is Jacob from Saskatchew and Canada. My question is Dynasty-related. I've got the 102 pick, and I'm wondering how much... Coach, should you give up to get the 101 and that chance at Bejohn Robinson? Thanks. Here's a great question. First of all, bonjour. Yeah, number, let's say bonjour. Number two, if you move up to the 101, it's not a chance. Like, you don't have a chance at Bejanon. You'll get to draft him. Yeah. Just filling in there. There's a hundred percent chance. I mean, I would start.