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Week 3 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Deucer’s Alley | Fantasy Football 2022 - Ep. 1291

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Episode notes & curated moments 6 records
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Matthew Betz prescribes prayer

A host consults the show's PT about an aging, swollen knee, declares that the great Matthew Betz has never helped him, and reports that Betz's answer was simply to pray.

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Three Deucers explain nothing

When asked why the NFL overlaps two Monday games, Kyle, Brooks, and Al each answer with a variation of 'that's just how it is,' earning an openly sarcastic 'very helpful.'

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A smelly tour through Deucers Alley

The FootClan giveaway includes a virtual studio tour through Deucers Alley, explicitly described as where the producers work and as an alley whose name evokes both bad smells and a deuce.

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The alley doctored the numbers

A wrong stat line in the live show document is blamed on an unnamed Deucer, and a later numbers question prompts the hosts to say they cannot trust people who live in an alley.

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The anti-goose principle

While scraping the bottom of the tight-end waiver barrel, the hosts explicitly call themselves anti-goose and label avoiding a zero one of the show's big principles.

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Episode notes

A studio-tour giveaway becomes an early tour of Deucers Alley: the hosts say it is where the crew works, note that alleys never smell good, and explain that the name works because there is usually a deuce in an alley. Kyle, Brooks, and Al are each asked why overlapping Monday games exist and provide no useful answer. Elsewhere a host jokes that the great Matthew Betz has never helped him and prescribed prayer for an aging knee; a producer puts the wrong stat line in the show document; the hosts say not to trust people who live in an alley; and avoiding a tight-end goose is declared a major principle.

Inside the episode

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Yeah, that's... It's a perfectly fair comparison. Like, so for Wilson, I would go, I'd go into the 30s. I don't think I would go half. Yeah, I mean, he's a special talent, but all the jokes aside of the 110% for Zach Wilson, he will come back and he will be the quarterback. What I like is the team's committed to being a bad defense. That's one of my favorite commitments by this team. They look in the mirror. They're going to throw the football a ton. They're going to have to. uh jehan dotson scored again four for 59 i think he looks outstanding when i watch him on the field and he ran the most routes he is he's a really really really good player i'm all in on grabbing these rookies and putting them on your roster they're really i mean you know wilson dotson olive yeah burks burks put them on your roster they're going to do big big big things and if you're in a keeper league my goodness

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All the more reason. You could be at the end of the year, and one of these guys could be the Jefferson Chase type of keeper, and then you're doubling that value. Yeah, no, those guys are the. Drake London. Clear pickups. You'd have to pay so much to trade for London. That being said, they're still rostered in most leagues, a little bit more than half. So there's still some really good wide receivers you could pick up that are available in more than half of leagues. My number one at that point would be Jacobi Myers. who, I believe Devante Parker, their big offseason acquisition has a catch this season. I mean, Cole come at, be jealous. Yeah, that's fair. How'd you do that, Parker? Jacobi Myers is what he has always been, which is a really good wide receiver for PPR leagues. Yes. So if I'm in a standard, no way, touchdowns are too important. He hates those. But in a PPR league, Jacobi Myers.

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He's someone that not only should be rostered, but should be started. 13 targets, 9 for 95, problems at the running back position health-wise for them. Michael Gallup, I think you need to put them on your roster. This is the time. Yes, now is the time. If you are looking for a start this week and Michael Gallup isn't back out there, Noah Brown is a spot start candidate. Five for 91 and one, this is a Monday night matchup against the Giants. So if you don't have definitive, knowledge of whether Gallup's going to be out there. You know, you're moving on to somebody else probably, which is, you know, slimmer pickings. You've got Greg Dorch out there again. Dorch! Four for 55 in a touchdown. He is going to have to be involved for Arizona until they get healthier at the wide receiver position. And, and honestly, the best waiver wire pickup of all wide receivers this week could end up being Sterling Shepherd. Sterling Shepherd has been kind of

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overlooked because he had the Achilles injury. I mean, he was completely off my boards. I don't have one single share of Sterling Shepard in my 150 Best Paul leagues or any roster that I'm on. But he has been out there, 72% of snaps, 88% of snaps. He has a history, you know, here where he's good with Daniel Jones. This coaching staff is not saying, oh, we pay Kenny Galladay the most. We drafted Cadarious Tony with a one. These guys have to get on the field. They're saying, We're going to put out the guys that we feel give us the best chance to barely win the game. And that's a win. That's Sterling Shepard. He, you know, week one, he was a top 20 wide receiver. Week two, he had 10 targets. It didn't turn into much 34 yards. But like when you look at the snaps and the targets and the history and he looks healthy. So to me, I think Sterling Shepard is a good pickup. He's a good pickup. He, I do. I agree that he's a good pickup for long term.

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This week against Dallas, it could be rough. Dallas is a good defense. I agree. Let's talk about players you would drop or be willing to drop. Okay. First of all, big, big news. And I did it with malice and joy. I did. I did see. But I dropped Marquess Valdezcaling. Get off my team. I never believed in you. Why did I draft you in one of my leagues? It happens to us all. It brings me morbid joy to say goodbye. I can't wait. Oh, yeah. I cannot wait for 80 and 2 this week. Oh, man. I will be hitting that button next week. I can't wait for 80 and 2 and everyone grabs him and then he never does it again. Well, he'll do it again. But anyways, you'd drop you'd drop NBS, right? Yeah, yes. Yes. You would drop Adam Thielen after two weeks.

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I wouldn't drop him, but I would certainly be shopping him. Adam Thielen has a big enough name and kind of rescued his day at the end of the game where if people weren't watching, they go, oh, you know, he was five receptions. But he was completely, I think we were into the fourth quarter before he might have caught a ball. The utilization of Adam Thielen is mind blowing. And I mean, week one, it made sense because Justin Jefferson was just wide open on every single route that he ran. But this week. When you're struggling to get the ball out, and Adam Thielen is a possession closer to the line of scrimmage guy in this offense with Jefferson there. The fact that they weren't even looking at him, these are the concerns that Jason had coming into the season. There is a decent possibility that Thielen is just cooked. Yeah, yeah, and they did take a shot in the end zone towards the end of the game to him. That's where he, you got to remember. That's what we needed. That's where he was.

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prolific. There was nothing in the yardage last year that made him valuable. It was, are they going to go to him around the red zone again? I mean, through two games, we have no Dalvin Cook touchdowns, no Adam Thielen touchdowns in this offense, and we're all going, what do we do? Yeah. Johnny Munt getting targets around the end zone. If you've got Adam Thielen and James Robinson package them together, go get a running back upgrade. Yeah, I'm definitely worried. Darnel Mooney. Yep. I would be willing to move on. Yeah, these wide receivers we talked about today, if they're on your waivers, I'd rather have them.

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Elijah Moore? No. No, I would not drop him. He is still the clear snap lead. I would drop him for Garrett Wilson in a heartbeat. I, if that, because that's the decision on the table here. I know what you're saying. I get the sentiment of what you're saying. Sure. Like I wouldn't drop him for no reason. I don't think he is independently MBS level drops. But if you're talking about you have Elijah Moore and Garrett Wilson's on the waiver wire, I'm going to go for the more explosive higher draft capital. Higher targeted player. Man, I don't think I would. I totally see what you're saying. But I mean, if you look at who's out there more, who's running more routes, who's, you know, obviously a little bit more experience, just because we're two weeks in and Garrett Wilson is, you know, out targeting him, I don't necessarily think that that's how the rest of the season goes. It's going to get better for Garrett Wilson, not worse. I think it will balance out for Elijah Moore and Wilson. So are you dropping Elijah Moore for Garrett Wilson?

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No, man, that's a really, really difficult decision. I don't think I would, dude. If you're in Fab and you have Elijah Moore, I'm not cutting Elijah Moore, who's, I think it's still a very, very good option for fantasy football and dumping a huge amount of fab to get someone who I think by the halfway point will be clear, not clearly, but far more balanced and even. Okay, I'll stand along with Garrett. Julio Jones. I would. Not dropping. You've got to wait and see his help because it's ironic. I think he's a good start this week if he plays. I mean, he's dangerous due to the injury, but if he is active while Mike Evans is not. He has two of those three traits you talked about at the beginning, Jason. Yeah. Age and sports. I've looked though, the physique of Julio Jones. Not obese. No, he seems to be in top of physical shape. Not top.

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Oh, yeah, that guy is. If we were next to Julio Jones, you go, check his knee. Well, that, I can't, I don't have Superman X-ray vision. I'm just saying physically, if you stood next to Julio, you'd go, that man was made out of stone. I'm definitely willing to drop Julio Jones for, uh, I'm willing for Wilson, Samuel, Birx, Dodson, Myers. Um, I wouldn't do it for me. Yeah. I wouldn't personally do it for Myers, but those other guys. I would do it for Myers if I'm in a full PPR. And I would rather have Sterling Shepard than Hulu. Yeah, Hulu is just going to get hurt again. He might. And then by the time, when this team runs the offense the way they want to run it, they didn't have Russell Gage in week one, right? He was on the field, but he wasn't fully active. Like it wasn't full go running a bunch of snaps. He was a disappearing act. So Evans, Godwin, Gage, I just don't know if Hulu is going to be what we hope and dream ever again. Running backs.

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Let's talk about them. It's not as good a week. It's rough, man. I checked all my leagues this morning at running back, and there is jack squat available. It's really a looking forward type of a week. Yeah, I mean, the only player that I would say that you could get spot starts out of this upcoming week if they're on your waiver wire, there's two names. It's Rahim Moster, who had 11 carries and 55% of snaps. Wait, are we sure? Have we been doctoring numbers this entire run of the show? Just to get more 55s? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't trust those guys. They live in an alley, guys. J.D. McKissick 36. He did it early. J.D. McKissick had seven targets, seven for 54. Thank goodness it wasn't 55. And so those two players are spot starts. Outside of that,

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It's what Mike said. It's looking forward. Yep. And looking forward, well, I guess. Jordan Mason. Well, Darrell Williams of the Arizona Cardinals, James Connor, they've said that the injury is not serious. And it seems like he will be back. But he is James Connor. And we've played this game with him for years that when he gets, when he starts to get banged up, it just keeps happening over and over. So I think that. And the way that they used the running backs of Eno and Daryl Williams preseason, it certainly felt like Eno Benjamin would be the guy. He had one more opportunity than Daryl. But Daryl just like that's why it's tough. When it comes to the, did we get a goal line with once? Daryl scored. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the goal line work would go to Daryl Williams, which makes him far more valuable for the Cardinals. So I mean.

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I think Connor plays this week, but Darrell Williams, if you just have an empty spot on your bench, is worth just putting on there for cheap. Yeah, it's really, really sparse this week. You brought up the name Jordan Mason, but he certainly needs to be picked up. Jeff Wilson is not usually able to stay on the field. And even if he is, Jordan Mason's going to get the carries that tie Davis price got this last week. If he's explosive with them and looks great, Shanahan. can make a switch. Yeah, he absolutely could. Tyler Algier got 31% of snaps for Atlanta. I didn't think he looked particularly good in that game. No, he's, he's... By the way, 14 opportunities for Ty Davis Price. That's what you're talking about. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, Tyler Algier is the backup to Damian Williams. Damian Williams was injured, so...

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Who's on IR now? Yeah. Oh, he did get put on IR. He's going to be picked up. He's going to, he's going to be in that spot. But, I mean, it's tough. You just don't want to start anyone really that doesn't, you know, he doesn't project as a pass catching back for a team that's going to be down. If I was panic starting, I'd start Jordan Mason over Tyler Alger. Agreed. Yeah, I think, yeah, I agree. And then Brian Robinson. Brian Robinson is working his way back. It's hard for me to see that happening quickly where he goes from inactive dealing with the recovery to I'm playing him in fantasy. But you never know based on the, I mean, he's already a practice. Ron Rivera gushes over this guy. And he does the opposite with Gibson for whatever reason. One of the problems, though, is that Gibson's looked really good this season. He's been very good for the manders.

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when it was all training camp and preseason and you had, you know, you had Gibson returning kickoffs and looking like the clear backup to Brian Robinson, if you start that way and Brian Robinson plays well, then maybe he just gets more and more work and you start to see the window closing on Antonio Gibson. But now it's hard for me to imagine Antonio Gibson, who's looked really good, just completely being relegated to A clear-cut third string. I think once Robinson is fully healthy, I think they'll make the switch really quick. I think it's probably going to happen. Gibson was really bad on the ground this last game. Like 14 for 28. He saved his week with a touchdown. Yeah. You of all people, Mike, saying that they're going to make the switch quickly. And we don't know when that will be, again, Robinson participating in practice, not exactly sure how.

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involved in practice he was, but once he's good to go, it will, I think, take one to two weeks in Robinson will be the guy. And so that means if you're in a deeper league right now is when you need to stash him. I am not dropping either of the top two drop candidate names that came through on Twitter and Instagram. Kenneth Walker and Chase Edmonds, I'd rather have on my roster than any of those players. 100%. I mean, those guys are, you know, Chase Edmonds, you've got two weeks. One week he was the starter. One week he was the backup. Need more information. And Ken Walker is... That was his first game ever. Yeah, I mean, he's an explosive athlete behind... I would be adding him. Absolutely. One of the most injury prone players out there. Now, you can't start Rashad Penny and you can't start Ken Walker, but they need to be rostered. Sure. And I would be dropping Kenny Gainwell, who's another name that is being mentioned. But Miles Sanders looks great. Yeah.

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It's funny how giving him the ball does that. You know, he's never looked good on any of his non-carries. That's true. He's always looked terrible. He's actually always looked good as a running back. He just doesn't get the work in the goal line because Jalen Hertz with two more rushing touchdowns. Yeah, the touchdowns are going to be hard to come by for Sanders. All right. At the tight-in position, you might be desperate. Cole Komet, David Njoku, Dalton Schultz, the George Kittled drafter. There's desperation once again, and you're trying to find a diamond in the rough. You guys mentioned Irv Smith. His athleticism is the reason to go with him. He scored on a play immediately following like a 20-yard catch by Johnny Munt, their other tight end. He almost had a long 60-yard touchdown down the sideline. Detroit next week, you could do worse than the athleticism of Irv Smith.

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Haydenhurst, seven more targets for Hayden Hurst. Here's what Hayden Hurst is. He is the, Joe Burrow doesn't want to get sacked on this play, emergency valve. And unfortunately, he's getting sacked so much. He should throw to Haydenhurst more. So, I mean, look, give me seven targets. Yep. Eight targets week one, seven targets week two, and this was with T. Higgins playing the game. You also have. Evan Ingram ate targets. Yeah, I mean, I, staying with Hayden Hurst for a second, you have touchdown upside with Hayden Hurst. You have a few handful of games last year where CJ Usama had, you know, massive outpouring of points due to touchdowns because Joe Burrow, if he's on, he's on fire. So I don't mind picking up Hayden Hurst. But yeah, Evan Ingram, I mean, you want to talk about another quarterback that looks like he could, I mean.

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Is it happening? I'm not going to say that yet. Is Trevor Lawrence, like, would you pick Trevor Lawrence up and stash him or just, no? In single QB? Yeah. Probably not. But Evan Ingram has seen 12 targets and he's caught 11 of them. That's amazing. I mean, Evan Ingram, ladies and gentlemen, with a 92% catch rate. Unbelievable. The bar for Evan Ingram is one inch off the ground. Yeah. And he is stepping over it. In the world of the tight-end position, where there's so many players are, he's athletic, boom, bust, and it's either, oh, my guy, got a touchdown, or he didn't. The fact that Evan Engram at least gives you a few points with touchdown upside. I agree.

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He should be picked up and played. Tyler Conklin, most routes run at the tight-in position through two weeks on a team that's thrown the ball 102 times. I was going to say that should not be surprising considering how many times Joe Flacco is throwing the ball. I'm still really not in on Tyler Conklin. I play him over Commet. Yes. Commet is off the roster now. You're holding on to Injoku and Schultz, but you're probably looking. Like if I have Injoku and Schultz, I am picking up Irv Smith and having room and probably rostering both while I try to figure the position. So we already have a note that CJ Usama, the Jets, other tight end, he is, they've already said he's iffy for week three with his hamstring. So, yeah, you're in the bottom of the barrel. You're trying to find yourself some points. You're not going to win the week with Tyler Conklin. You're not going to win the week with Hayden Hearst, but you're trying not to goose. Exactly.

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We're anti-goose at the tight-in position. It's one of our big principles here. Defensive pickups, who are your favorites? I like the Chargers a lot. I know they're available in about half a league because of last week's matchup. When you play the Chiefs, you get dropped a lot of times. And so you need to check your waiver wire. They play Jacksonville, Houston, and Cleveland. So I think they're a really good defense that has three good matchups. I would say the... The Chiefs are interesting in this week. So juicy. In particular, because they get to take on the Colts. Is the Bucks next week? So that's probably just a one week rental. The Dallas Cowboys, though, available in more than half of leagues. You've got the Giants and then Washington. And I know Carson Wentz is putting up huge points. He's also making a ton of mistakes, which is good for your DST. The Eagles have Washington, Jacksonville, and Arizona over the next three weeks and look very good as well. Lots of pressure on the quarterback. Lots of playmakers in the secondary.

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Yeah, I mean, the Cowboys. That's what I just said. Yeah, that was a good one, Mike. Thanks. I think that was a really, really nice. Would you also recommend the Cowboys? Yeah, no, totally. Cleveland on Thursday night against Mitch Tribeskey. Okay, yeah, that's not too bad. That's not too shabby. And then I think the panic play of the week would be, I think, the Giants taking on Cooper Rush. All right, that was welcome to the fold presented by Samsung Galaxy with multitasking on Galaxy Z Fold 4. You can view available players on the waiver wire, check player rankings and watch highlights all at once. Visit Samsung.com to learn more. Full stream ahead. Streaming quarterback options. Who is your favorite this week? My favorite is Mike. So, Mike, why don't you go? Oh, my favorite is Mike's. Mike, why don't you go? Oh, excellent. When you get into the dock first, you get to...

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Pick from everybody. I'm going with Jared Goff against the Minnesota Vikings, 250 plus and four touchdowns last week. I had this in here before the Monday night meltdown where Jalen Hertz looked like a football god out there just doing whatever he wanted to do. I think that Minnesota will have a better showing against the Detroit Lions, but Jared Goff has, he has playmakers around him, and either did the lions do well? And Jared Goff puts up some points or it's competitive and Jared Goff puts up some points. Yeah, Jared Goff looks like a really good play. And your weapons comment is not to be undervalued. I mean, he might have some of the best in the entire league. Amun Ra is amazing. He's jumping in. Hawkinson is absolutely fine for a dump off valve. DeAndre Swift in the passing game, you got DJ Chark on the outside. I mean.

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It's really, really good. I'm going to go with Marcus Marioita against Seattle. When you have a mobile quarterback that can put up 70 yards in a rushing touchdown on the ground, going up against PFF's 29th ranked coverage unit, Seattle's allowing 11.7 yards per completion, which is also 29th. If you're looking on the waiver wire, it wasn't a great week for waiver wire pickups. So I think Marcus Mario, if you. Lostre Lance and the waiver is bare. He's probably a little bit lower down and you can find him. And as a note, Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, yeah, you got to pick him up. You know, if you're in a two quarterback league, you must, you know, every quarterback is rostered in those and he is available. I bet Jimmy G's rostered in a lot of them already. Sure, he might be. Tua has a rough matchup against Buffalo. Are you doing this? But, well, first of all, Mike, you're my favorite start of the week. Yeah, okay.

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Or stream of the week. Yes. You've heard cut that audio. But Tua just had six touchdowns and 400 plus yards. It doesn't take, it takes but a handful of plays with this offense and the weapons. So it's one Tyreek play. It's one Waddle play. Sure. And it's a game where, you know, you're going to be throwing the football for a lot of it. Buffalo has been really unstoppable on offense. What's the over under of that game? Do you have it, Kyle? I'll take the over. I'm curious. You look it up, but Tua. It is chasing what he just did, but it's a worthy chase with the weapons he has. When the Titans get down 41 to 7 and they don't have A.J. Brown and their main guy is not a pass catching running back. They just can't do anything. If the dolphins were to get down against the bills, just like they got down against the Ravens, they're going to.

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aired out to incredibly great weapons. I don't mind taking the chance on Tua. Is that game in Miami? It's 51.5 right now. 51 and a half is the over under. And it's in Miami. Yeah, it's in Miami. So that helps as well. Buffalo finally having to travel. I think Tua is going to be just fine if you're pivoting from these other options and he's available. Now, I think it would be competitive to pick Tua up. I had people asking like they had Brady and Derek Carr, how much do I spend to get Tua? And that, you know, it's like I wouldn't spend much. I'm not dumping FAB onto. I think Tua has bright days ahead, but. Yeah, the truth of Tua is not six touchdowns of 450 yards. Because that's nobody's truth. But he's going to have some big games because of the weapons.

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down the line, it might just be harder to predict them. I'm not sure anybody thought that would be a big game when they were down whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it just became a magical second half. That was on the road, too, right? No. That game was in Baltimore? Oh, man, I can't remember. What happened? I was in Miami. Oh, there we go. There we go. Man, that would have been. Well, I don't have to look this up, but his home splits are great. Yes. All right, that is going to do it for today's show. Thank you for tuning in. Footclan giveaway.com win some autographed sports memorabilia and a studio tour. Take care. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.