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Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - NFL Draft Review Pt 2: NFC Winners & Losers

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It's almost as if Biff had given each of them a copy of Grey's Sports Almanac. I'd highly recommend heading over to www.W.W. Ultimate DraftKit.com. Without any further delay. A fantasy footballer's podcast coming to you from the fantasy jocks.com studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Is this how we're really starting the show? Welcome to the show!

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If you're not on the YouTube version, you missed us doing the TED. Ted Thompson clapping happening over here. Everybody, Ted. Welcome in. So you had a, Ted. It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood. Teach me how to Thompson. Teach me how to Thompson. If you don't know, Ted Thompson is many things, but a clapper he is not. He has not learned how to clap. This was a classic...

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GIF from years ago, and then the draft happened, and he showed that he still has not learned to clap. He celebrated that draft pick with... And to describe it with words, it's a very... There's no turning of the hand of any way. The hands line up perfectly. Fingers are not spread. The fingers are not spread, and it's just kind of a very procedural clap. And the hands are flat as a board. There's no curve at all. You would expect there to be no sound that is emitted almost at all from the... That's why you couldn't hear it on the intro.

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uh teach me how to thompson welcome to the podcast the fantasy footballers back again may the fourth people who like star wars like this day good news to people that like star wars and like the show so for a long time we had a star wars shirt on shopballers dot com which is one of my favorite shirts except when we made it

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We had a problem. We used... We were too creative. We put stars in the background. It looks so good on a computer. And then you print it and you get your shirt and you feel like you ate powdered donuts. Yeah, the stars look like dandruff. All times I'm just brushing my chest off. But a new fixed version is up. I like both versions. Yeah. If you are a person that deals with dandruff, it kind of blends in well. It's not me. Those are stars.

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Today's show, if you listened on Tuesday, you know, we did the AFC winners and losers from the draft. Today we've got the, you guessed it, the NFC winners and losers. It's going to be a great one. We're going to go through all the NFC teams, see who won and lost. That just reminded me of John Gruden. John Gruden. We already did the AFC. That means we're going to do the what. We're going to do the what. NFC. You throw the what, what? Football, yeah, that's right. Man, this is going to be a fun show today. I can tell you that.

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We are on Twitter. I heard Twitter's doing well, by the way. That is not just a... Good for you, Mr. Twitter. I heard they're doing very well. They've added many users to the Twitter, and so you can be there, and you can follow us at the FFFballers. We're also on YouTube, and the website is The Fantasy Footballers.com. That's where you can find our ultimate draft kit, get you ready to dominate your 2017 draft. It's going to be great. I'm telling you, it's going to be good. Very good. Super good.

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All right, quick question of the day, guys. What are the fantasy implications of the signing that just took place? Jamal Charles signs with the Broncos. Dun, dun, da, I've heard everything on Twitter. It doesn't matter to, oh, no, C.J. Anderson, to everything in between. Here's what I think we can be sure of for C.J. Anderson. Other than the narrative.

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that well now he can stay healthy because obviously he has not been able to stay healthy and so bringing jamal charles in will somehow

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Make him avoid an injury because he's being used. Because Jamal Charles knows everything about avoiding injury. He brought him into model it. Yeah, exactly. The reality here is that it is not good news for C.J. Anderson because C.J. Anderson was the presumed first and second down back, the goal line back. He could also catch passes. And now they brought in Jamal Charles. Now, granted, that contract they're giving him, nothing is guaranteed. It's pretty much a veteran's minimum deal.

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It is the minimum. So, I mean, you know, I think this is just, they needed another running back, and they brought in a guy who is potentially going to be very good. It's going to eat into all parties. C.J. Anderson is certainly not dead to me. I'm more curious about not what this does to C.J. Anderson, but what will Jamal Charles be able to be? So you don't want a Donner party situation here. Where they're eating into everybody? Yeah.

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No, historical reference? No, no, no, no, we'll just move on. And historical murder reference? Well, moving on. Great one. This was a great move by John Elway in the Denver Broncos. Sure. I mean, no risk. There is no risk to this contract. I'd also heard it was no guaranteed money. Did you guys hear? Yes. Literally, no risk at all.

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Reward of is Jamal Charles at least 75% of who he can be? Which is huge upside, but sorry, I think I'm going to stop. But I just, for the most part, I've moved C.J. Anderson down slightly in the rankings. However, I still think that he is a strong target. His ADP will move down, which that's the scary thing about Anderson is. He can't seem to finish the season. So you have to pay his draft.

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value does not match what he has done on the field the last couple of years. So if we move that ADP down, then I like Anderson a little bit more. There are certain situations in the rankings of players. And obviously everybody, yesterday I had finished my initial running back rankings, statted everybody out. They asked about Jamal Charles. I have Jamal Charles right now statted for about 400 yards on the ground. Okay. That being said, there are certain situations that are kind of you do those rankings and you feel pretty good about them long term. And then there are situations like this one.

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where you realize that the camp in preseason battle is going to tell you so much and more about who comes out on top. Look, if Jamal Charles is fine in preseason and lighting it up, it's going to change the whole story. Just like if Somaget Pirine and Rob Kelly, they have a battle and, oh, man, this guy looks much better, or Ty Montgomery and, you know, and Jamal Williams, there are situations that will be carried. We just can't tell you yet.

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because they're going to be battling it out. And so for me, it can't be good news for C.G. Anderson, but I wasn't very high on him anyways. He's one of those tough luck guys, the Mark Ingram, C.J. Anderson, Carlos Hyde crew that, boy, if all the stars in the universe align, they'd be good, but they just never have aligned for any of them. Tell you what, if you want the starting running back for the Denver Broncos week seven.

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Just take Devante Booker with your last round pick because he's going to be starting. No, you know, there is a silver lining here to the contract that's been given. When you look at Jamal Charles, this is a guy who he's not coming back for the money. I mean, he didn't hold out. He's got nothing guaranteed. And he's saying, I want to prove that I still have it. I'm not going to invest highly in him at all. I don't think he had much of a choice if he wanted to keep playing football.

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Yeah, but the point is, is he wants to keep playing football, not getting a check. How much of that is similar, though, to Fred Jackson and Seattle or Arian Foster in Miami, where there are only options to keep playing football were those opportunities, and then they flamed out. Jamal Charles hasn't played much football in two years. I mean, he was able to essentially leave. He's lost two years because of an knee injury. I don't think he comes back if he doesn't believe I've got something to prove.

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But I could be wrong. Yeah, I mean, I like Jamal Charles, so I hope you're right. Mike, we need an update on the hair. The updates. The date, it came and went. It was May 2nd, Jason's birthday. And at the end of the day, how many people voted for your hair to come off and how many voted for it to stay on? I don't have the numbers of how many, but I can tell you that the number, the quantity of people who voted for me to keep the hair.

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was the vast majority. However, just didn't bring enough oomph. Someone on this panel who's specifically the man in front of me running the show, Mr. Andrew Holloway made a significant, which I thank you very much. My aunt thanks you very much. But Andy Holloway made sure that the hair is coming off. Oh, the man one will be no more. I had to do it.

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Hey, support you're on. No, and I really appreciate it. I knew going into it that I was likely to lose the top off of my head. Yeah. Well, not the top off of my head, because that would be really bad. That would be back to the Donner Party. So are you, you know, you can grow back. Yes, you don't like it. Of course, I can grow back. I mean, so. I mean, theoretically, at least for a couple more years, you can grow back. And those people wanted to save the bun. If you think Mike's going to go and not have some cool hairstyle.

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You're crazy. Just wait for this moment. So I've, it's on the list. We know. We know it's got to be on the list. But so, you know, the, the preparations are being put in place. I'll do something fun. I'm sure I'll tape it. And for the people out there, of course, my hair will be donated. I mean.

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Yes. It's good that you said that because a lot of people have tweeted. Of course. The hair that's long enough will absolutely be donated to a good. I'm thin and up front. So thank you so, so much. And please don't let the deadline of the hair dissuade you. If you want to help, footclan help.com. She still needs a lot of support to get to her goal. All right. Let's talk. Fantasy News. News and notes from around the league. If I had music to play from a circus.

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I would play it right now because the bills have declined. Sammy Watkins' fifth year option for 2018 because in the National Football League, you do not need 24-year-old wide receivers at all. They're not a premium. Wide receivers, you don't pay for, oh, wait, three just went in the Tom 10 in the NFL draft. Oh, no, no, no. I will say this, though. I'm not jumping all over the bills just yet. Talk about a guy who has not played football.

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for hardly any of his rookie contract. We don't have the medical information. The bills do. His foot could be toast and we just, we don't know. And the bills, all of their medical teams say that his foot is just not going to hold up long term. So maybe he has, you know, a couple years left, but you can't invest the type of contract it would take to keep.

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a the first round pedigree uh his elite level of athleticism and talent but the production has not matched that and if he's not going to be around to fulfill that contract then the bills this is a this is the only time can tell if the bills have done in 2014 down to 13 and 2015 eight last year in 2016 certainly not trending in the right direction but i think it was a surprise for the majority of the

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