Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - NFL Draft Review Pt 2: NFC Winners & Losers

Where do you go? What value do you guys put on Chad Williams for a dynasty rookie draft knowing that Larry Fitzgerald is gone next year? John Brown. Yeah, but Carson Palmer's probably gone next year. Sure. But the value I put is. Sure. Sure. I have other guys that are like. Yeah. A lot of guys are like higher than him. Probably a third round pick. Yeah. Third round or out of the third round, depending on how rookie drafts fall. One of the guys I like more than.

than Chad Williams is Josh Reynolds in St. Louis. Fourth round pick. Los Angeles. Oh, my gosh. How many times am I going to do that? Brooks? Brooks. When you write the Rams name in docs from now on, put L.A. in front of it until you train me like I'm some sort of... I'm Ron Burgundy. Monkey. Cooper Cup and Josh Reynolds drafted in the third and fourth round for the L.A. Rams. You had Gerald Everett, the tight end going in the second round. I think the Gerald Everett pick, I think it's a good pick.

I also think it was kind of like a deflating selection at the position because you had the kind of Injoku and Ingram and Howard were off the board and yet you were sitting here at the early part of the second round and Everett was the next natural name off the board. But those of you who are Tyler Higby truthers can't be happy with this draft pick here. He's a loser in this one. No, and from what?

From what I understand, you know, out of L.A. is that they were actually targeting Gerald Everett. This is a really deep tight-in class. It's not just the three names that you're used to hearing. He is a quality tight-in. And so I think that it's a name you might want to look for for the future. But Jared Goff is also a winner from the draft. Now, he lost in free agency, so it's probably just a wash. But coming into the draft, they got him pieces.

Two wide receivers and a good pass catching tight end is a win for the quarterback coming into his second year. The Rams are going to be disappointed at, they're going to call for it. Can we figure out how to get more slot receivers onto the field because their wide receiver court is littered with them? You're talking about Cooper Cop. Not just Cooper, but go look at their mixing with Taylor Austin. Yeah. Robert Woods. Yeah, it's just, it's crazy how many slot guys they have.

But just to reemphasize for Gerald Everett, they did not have a first round pick. This is their first pick in the draft. And they targeted Gerald Everett. This is Sean McVeigh, who just ran an offense for two years that ran through the tight end position. That's why we like Tigby to a degree. Yes. All right, Seattle, the Seahawks, they had a lot of picks. They had a lot of picks. They just kept trading down. They traded, I think.

three times they traded down before taking their first pick. They had two second rounders and four third round picks. The first offensive piece that they grabbed was, I believe, third round pick. Amara. Skill position? Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know how to, I don't remember how to pronounce his last name. Darbo. Let's go with that. Darbo. Amara de Barbo. Darbo. Debaro. Debaro. I like that. Amarro de Barro. Amaro de Barro. Amaro de Barro. A wide receiver 6-2-14 out of Michigan. Who's the winner in this draft?

Uh, took a center in the second round. Yeah, the O line. I like that a lot. They had to address the O line, but it's, this is a zero sum here for me. It's whoever was, so I guess maybe you say the winners of whoever was already there in Seattle. You know, they've been in need of a center since they shipped one off for Jimmy Graham. Of an entire offensive line, but yes, I, I think they were a little bit losers. They, I think they traded, you know, down a couple spots.

And Jacksonville came up and selected Cam Robinson. Yeah. And it's like, well, that's a player Seattle could have used. Why not take him? I mean, maybe they didn't like him. Sometimes you lose when you dance with the devil. But as of right now, I don't really trust their current offensive line evaluations because their offensive line hasn't been good. So I would say this was a loser draft a little bit for...

For Russell Wilson, they didn't add anything to me. I mean, I guess that second round center, that's good. But I feel like they could have done more to help him. Yeah, if you were expecting that offensive line to get better, I don't know if you think they got better enough. Yeah, a second round center is all you got. All right. NFC North time. All right, let's talk about the Chicago Bears. Oh, oh, man.

Now, I have been the one that said I thought Mitch Tribisky was the best quarterback of this time. You have. I also have been the one that said, I believe Carson Wentz is better than all the quarterbacks in this draft. And that certainly I didn't expect it. I expected Trubisky to go it to because he's a quarterback. I didn't think he belonged it to. I certainly didn't know he was going to go to the Chicago Bears. This was a monstrous trade. And I play the music because the sentiment in Chicago seemed to match it.

You had Mike Glenn in there. They just paid Mike Glennon to come in. And now you got Mitch Trubisky. You had Mike Glennon at the team's draft party. So mean. Hey, come and join us. The fans are going to love it. See, they're starting. I didn't hear that. If you had any inkling that this is what you were going to do as a team. Stay home. They were. Stay home, Glennon.

Why would you do that? They were divided, though. I mean, the GM, Ryan Pace, and John Fox are not agreeing. They are not building together in the same direction here. This is, you know, a house divided is going to crumble here. And the worst part about drafting Mitchell Trabisky, you know, a lot's going to be fine if he turns out to be a great player. But the issue is not there. The issue is that he would have been there at your next pick. You're the next pick.

The only other trade up to the number two rumors even were just Leonard Fournett with the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's just mind-blowing to me that they gave up that much to move up one spot for a team that was not going to take him. It's the fear, man. The fear in the quarterback position, I mean, Mike Lennon's an obvious loser in this situation. Oh, yeah. Look, you spend the number two pick on him. He's going to play. That's the end of the story for all of these guys. And it...

To kind of just back up what Jason was saying, if Trubisky is a franchise quarterback, I mean, there's a low percentage of that. But if, then they really didn't give up a lot for a franchise quarterback compared to what people have been doing in the past couple years. I mean, a three, two threes. Oh, no, three threes. Wait, am I reading this right? No, I apologize. So two threes and a four. Two threes and a four. And they swapped, yeah. To get your franchise guy, that's not a,

a ton, but I agree with Jason that they got duped. If you're not happy with Tyler Higby's situation with Los Angeles drafting a tight end, how can you be happy with Zach Miller's situation with a second round pick being used by the Bears? Yeah, and Adam Shaheen has, he's got some juice. Yeah, this is a big board. And we know Zach Miller's old. Yes, you can't rely on Zach Miller. Well, I don't know if you can never rely on Zach Miller just given the track record of his career, but Adam Shaheen's 6-6.

278, very athletic. It's a downgrade for me for Zach Miller. It's a downgrade to me for all of the offensive weapons. This is a team to me where I was really excited to see what does Cameron Meredith do? What does Kevin White do? What does Zach Miller do? All of these options. And while I don't think Mike Lennon is great, for year one, I'm not talking dynasty here, just redraft options. I think that these.

All the pass catchers take a step back because Glennon's not going to play 16. That's what I was going to ask is. You do think that they'll bring Trubisky into the. Yes. Yeah. I think I think Glennon will play. Over under 10 games for Glennon. I'd probably take the under. You know, I think Glennon will play. I'll take the over. I think Glennon will play six, seven, eight games. And he'll be.

better than an incoming rookie Tribisky who's played 12 college games for the production of those wide receivers. There's a lot wrong there. Kind of the darts that I wanted to throw at some of those in redraft formats at those pass catchers. I'm going to throw those elsewhere. All right. The Detroit Lions. Lions drafted a wide receiver, Kenny Gallaudet, in the third round. I like it. Added a tight end in the fourth round. And do you hear something?

Hold on. Listen. Oh, no. Yeah. I thought that was pulling up. Pulling up to the station, the big winner from the Detroit Lions. Choochoo! The Amir Abdul Express. Ready for? I can't even argue with you, which is so annoying. I will say this. I wish I could. From the draft, Amir Abdullah is a.

clear winner. He is. However, there are already... Get out of here with your however. I believe Ligarip Blunt has a scheduled visit with the Lions as well. So there... Oh. I agree from the draft. No, no. With that Joyc Bell speed coming after you. From the draft. Do you know who else is visiting? I kid you not. I did not know Ligrublant had a schedule a visit. Who's slower than Ligra Blunt and Joybill? Oh, man.

Give it to me. Matt Aziana. Oh, that's right. Coming in for a visit when Joyke Bell. I did hear that. When Joyke Bell is too fast for you, you bring in Matt Azada for a workout. Me? Am I going to the Lions? Yes, you have a scheduled workout. But to me, Amir Abdullah, he has to be a winner. They've called him the starting running back. And they strengthen the offensive line on the offseason. So I like it. I'm probably going to be back fully on board with the Express. And I...

When you were mentioning Kenny Goliday, I wanted them to draft this exact type of player. A big, six boy, two 18. They needed one. And you still, you'll have Marvin Jones still, but Golden Tate. Yeah. Golden Tate gets to be what he is. And that's a high, high volume possession guy coming out of the slot. And so I.

Can we get Golden Tate back to what he was a couple years ago? That would be fantastic. Absolutely, you can. I mean, you saw it the second half of last year. He just got off to a slow start as they were trying to force feed Marvin Jones into the offense. And I would say we talked about it earlier, but I think Eric Ebron is a winner. They did draft a tight in in the fourth round, but I mean, they didn't grab anybody who's going to come in and steal snaps at all. All right. We're moving on to the Packers. The Packers. Big story here, big fantasy.

Storyline, Jamal Williams, fourth round pick, loved the draft pick, was surprised they waited as long as they did for a running back, considering they had four picks ahead of that. But they did invest the pick on Jamal Williams. They came out and said Time Montgomery is still the starting running back. But that is such a, it's such a nondescript type of role in, by saying he's the starting running back, it's not saying a lot is all I mean. I like Time Montgomery.

I projected him to catch the ball. I projected him to run the ball. I just don't see him as somebody that's not going to split time with Jamal Williams. I'm happy to hear you say that because I know right after the draft, I heard one of you two. I don't even remember say that you think, you know, Ty Montgomery is safe and he's in his role. And I've seen reports that he is a winner after the draft. I can't even wrap my head around that because, look.

He's named the starter. Well, that's great. Kind of like Andy, you're saying. It's not a script. That's great. But what did the Giants or what did the Packers think of their running back situation? They drafted three running backs. They didn't just in the fourth round draft Jamal Williams. They cut Kristen Michael. Yeah, they obviously did not like their running back situation. They cut Michael and Jackson, right?

Yeah, they were told to beat it as a headline said in Green Bay. But my point is, they were not confident that Ty Montgomery can be their main running back for this season. You can't be confident. Of course them. He's too, he's been hurt. He's been banged up. His career, even last year after he took over at a running back position.

He got hurt again, and he missed time. You have to split time with him. It doesn't mean he's not going to be fantasy relevant. He's going to be very fan. I almost made a trade for him today. Yeah, I'm not off of Montgomery. And while Jamal Williams was a guy I liked as a later round pick who my alleged friend also stole out for him underneath my feet. But.

While I was taking my victory lap, Brooks was in the bushes, by the way. If you know about the bushes, Bush was hiding in there whispering. There are some very unsavory things going down. In the bushes. But while I'm taking my victory lap around Twitter, like, yeah, P. Ryan, Jamal Williams. And then the fifth round, then they grab Aaron Jones, who he is, he's a sneaky type of guy who can profile out.