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Early 2018 Sleepers, Hype Train

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Oh! To the fantasy footballers podcast. Coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh. Welcome. Oh. Yeah. Love it. 555. Are you out of your mind? That was show 199. Oh, that's right. Shout out to. Welcome in. Yes.

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It's the show you've been waiting for Thursday, June 7th. The June 7th show is the one you were really... Oh! Oh! Welcome in to show 5! Oh! It's a good one, too. We have early sleepers on the podcast today. Going to jump on the hype train. And I'm going to let these two fine gentlemen, Jason Morris, here. And Mike, the fantasy hitman, they're going to break down some of this hype and whether they buy any of it.

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Are we shoveling coal into that steam engine? Or not. Or are we hitting the brakes? Does a steam engine use coal? Wouldn't that be a coal engine? I'm no engineer. I believe it is you pump the coal in so it gets real hot and then it creates steam. And then it uses the steam. I don't know. This was not, this was not me mocking.

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This was me asking me in a mocking voice. Everything I know about trains is from Back to the Future 3, which also means there are trains out there that can fly. I have deleted that from my memory because it was so inferior to the predecessors. By the way, it's going to be a great one. We have some very important things to address first. By the way, I also want to ask this. My goodness.

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How many first downs did Ezekiel Elliott and LaShaul McCoy gain last year? Wait, is this a total number? Individual or from mine? How many first downs did each player gain last year? I'm just curious. I know where this is going. I just wanted to bring up some stats from last year. We'll bring up some more as the show goes on. You know what that says to me? What? Zeke is pretty good at fantasy football because. Well, why didn't you take LaShaul McCoy out of there?

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What? Oh, because he missed so many games. Yeah. One was suspended for a while. Oh, it's funny because it's the exact same amount of sacks that the Jaguars had last year. How many? All right. First of all, we had some very important things happen on the show. Yes, we did. I guess we're going to jump into that one. Last episode was great. Yeah. Minus one person. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would agree. Andy, I think you had a great show.

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on the last episode. Mike. Mike, great show. You nailed it. How did I do, guys? I thought you were great. Great show, Jason. One person missed the mark. Now, I brought up the fact that the North Midwest is just replete with tunnels. So many tunnels. And Brooks, coming from Michigan, of all people would know that all of these college campuses have tunnels.

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throughout them. He said there were no tunnels. Now, you said there were no tunnels, Brooks, and then the world spoke, and I have set a world record for tunnel tweets coming my direction. Tunnels was actually trending on Twitter. Tunnels were trending. In addition to that. So tunnels exist. Go on. Go on. Wherever I went to acting school, we didn't have them. Oh, okay. Yes, the Judge Giamati has many hats he wears, and one of them is the judge hat.

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Where he, or would that be the judge robe? Do they wear, they don't have hats? Judges do not have hats. That would be awesome. Judges. They had wigs at one time. Pokes have hats. But anyways, Judge Giamati also, and this is the far more important one. He ruled against one of the greatest player names ever created on this show. And let me remind the people that both of you two also were on his side on this. I am also the one going.

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When you said one of the greatest of all time. Tarok Cohen, the dinosaur. Let's just go. The dinosaur hunter. Look. Let's head back to the courtroom. Sure. I took this above the judge. And I went to the Supreme Court. And if you're asking who the Supreme Court is, it's you. It's the foot clan. And the fuck clan spoke. Well, we have the actual ruling in tow here. So, Brooks, would you mind?

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First of all, I'll revisit a classic Jason Moore quote simply that the Foot Clan can move mountains. You're darn right. And so with that, upon appeal in public pressure, the ruling on Tarak Cohen is officially reversed. All right. Jason's standing up and clapping. Yes. Tarak Cohen, the first official nickname of 2018. This show of all the shows is going to get away from us the easiest.

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How many yards per game did Lamar Miller average? Oh, we're going back to this. How many yards per game did Lamar Miller average in 2017? It's an interesting fact. I'm going to guess five more than 50. All right. We're going to get into the rest of the show. Follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. If this is your first time, it'll be your last time. Welcome in and here we go. Let's get on the hype tree. All right. Here's a bunch of news that has come out over the last few weeks. Some of it has, you know,

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It's not news. It's hype. Hype and information and things that didn't constitute a full news and note segment on the show, but things we want to bring your way because maybe you have a player on your team already and you just want to get excited. But let's start here. The Lions running backs coach, David Walker believes second round running back carry on Johnson can be a three-down player. Does it matter that he believes this?

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Yeah, I mean, it matters to a degree. He's the running backs coach, so he's not the one calling, you know, he's not the offensive coordinator, he's not the head coach, he's not the one completely in charge. But whenever you have someone that is in that room, in that group that is saying that a player can be a three-down player that they trade it up for in the second round, I do believe that it matters. And the lions have to change.

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their personality as a team. I know that they kept the offensive coordinator intact, but they went and they got a defensive-minded head coach. They trade up for a running back. They improved the offensive line. I mean, I've said this before on the show. My love for Carry on Johnson is, it knows no bounds. Yeah. Look, don't cry no more for Lagart Blunt. He will be supplanted this season by Carry on Johnson. That is such a bold take.

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I don't think it's a bold take to say that Blunt will be supplanted. You don't think it's a bold take to say that Carry on Johnson this hype train, which is what it is. He's going to supplant a free agent running back that they brought in. He's going to supplant a third down running back that's been one of the most productive in the league in Theoretic. I didn't say Theoretic. I said, but Ligaribluntz will be. So Ligariblund is a first and second down back. Yes. By the end. Theoretic is a third down back. So if he can be a three down back.

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By the end of the season, Caryon Johnson will be playing ahead of LaGarrett Blunt. And when I was studying Caryon Johnson, part of why I was so excited, and I had to check with Jason. I'm like, Jason, are you seeing what I am seeing with Caryon Johnson? And it was a guy who could be a three-down back. That's why he was so exciting, is that he could do everything. Yeah, I guess I reserve judgment on the fact that the depth chart's thick.

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The offensive line struggled last year. He has to overcome a lot. And he's 20 years old. He absolutely does. That's one of my favorite parts. If you're in a Dynasty League, I'm much more bullish on the long-term future of Garyon Johnson. Sony Michelle's 23. He'll be 23 when the season starts. And Kerry on Johnson will be 20 still? Yes. That's pretty crazy for two rookies. All right. Ian Rappaport talked about the fact that barring a major injury, Free Agent Des Bryant will likely wait until training camp to sign. Do you buy the hype?

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that Des Bryant would like you to buy that this is all in his court. He's deciding where he's going. He is being patient. He's skipping these OTAs. He's not joining. Do you think it's all in his ballpark or do you think that there's a chance Des Bryant doesn't find the right fit this year? I would say I'm mostly buying this. Just knowing how the NFL does things. I get that the public has turned on Des Bryant. And it's, okay, Des is washed.

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He can't be productive. Maybe he doesn't have the ability to be a number one wide receiver anymore. But the way that guys get opportunities in the NFL, Des Bryant will receive another opportunity. He's not going to be able to pick wherever he wants, but I do believe that as time goes by, his things get closer to training camp, his value actually does.

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go up and there will be more than a handful of teams that want to sign des. I feel like it needs to come after injury because I'm not entirely buying that he is waiting out. I mean, if an offer came to him that was something he liked, he wouldn't be like, I'm waiting out. I don't think he's getting those offers. Well, because he wants a multi-year deal. Sorry, one-year deal to prove it. He got an offer from Baltimore. They confirmed that. He'd have turned it down. Right. Now, he's a good enough player.

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to, even though he's not the same player, he used to be, still a good enough player to come in and mess a depth chart up and mess our rankings up and mess a locker room up. Well, but he could, and that's the fear that a lot of these teams have. We're going to talk about players, the ones and twos on these different teams. And if he joins the Packers, everything we've said about the, you know, Geronimo Allison Asleeper, Randall, Randal Cobb of Value gets unsettled in that roster. Certainly. All right. The Jags, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.

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He said that Corey Grant is a guy we've got to get out there more on offense. You're darn right, you do. I mean, Corey Grant is a lightning bolt. Every single time he's on the field and touches the ball. But Nathaniel Hackett, what was the problem? Why were you not getting him on the field? One of our favorite comments from head coaches and offensive coordinators are comments like this.

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As though they weren't the ones deciding who goes on the field. It is infuriating. So from the fantasy perspective, I don't really see Corey Grant having a future. I don't either because I believe strongly that he is just a mix up. He's more valuable in real life than he is in fantasy. I mean, they gave him a decent amount of money for a running back. They gave him that second round tender, which I believe is the $2.9 million. And Chris Ivory left. Yeah, but T.J. Yeldon is still there.

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I think he would be the primary beneficiary if something were to happen to Leonard Fornett, but Hackett is correct. He being T.J. Yeldin, in your opinion, that's what you're saying? Yes, I think Yeldon, but I'm saying Hackett is correct. They need to figure out more big splash plays for Corey Grant. Does that translate into fantasy value? I think he's a great...

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stashed on the back of your dynasty roster but as far as redraft goes it's he's not going to have enough volume correct very very unlikely starling shepherd has been seen uh or has been taking significantly more that is in quotes snaps on the outside during the off season program sterling shepherd is he projecting as the outside guy across odale beckham junior

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Yeah, he is, and I absolutely love this. Sterling Shepard can play anywhere on the field. You know, the NFL is starting to prove more and more on a change that you don't have to be a six-foot-three, 210-pound to play that outside role. It's about speed, and, you know, I believe that he'll be very good in that role, but he's clearly down on the mouth-to-feed chart. You know, he's going to be behind Sequin. He's going to be behind O'Dall Beckham.

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