Week 11 Matchups + Trade Fallout, Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/17

You don't want to miss a minute of today's show. We got more matchups, more trade fallout, some very strong emotions, and you're going to love every minute of it. Subscribe right now. Leave us a comment with the players you need to deliver this week and enjoy. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Jay Gris, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway in the building. Whoa.

Jay Gris getting first billing. Impressive work, Jay. I've pretty much ignored him the last two days. That is right. If you haven't caught on over the last two episodes, Mike has not just been silent. He's not been here. Yeah, Mike has got a couple days with the family and we'll be back on Monday. Jason will have Sunday live. Oh, man. Oh, man. Keep reminding me every time someone tells me. I'm like, oh, yeah. I just hope I remember on Sunday. Well, I would say that when you get to maximum tilt, which will be early Sunday morning, that could be a reminder that you have to talk about it publicly at ballerslive.com. Perfect. Jason Edition, which is great. I think it's great. I mean, Mike is, he's with his family and had a real bad night, fantasy-wise, because, and many of you did. A lot of you really, really did.

Joe Burroughs injury. Yeah. That's Mike's dynasty quarterback, and there's so many of your quarterbacks going. I mean, he's had a great run, Joe Burrow. And then you had Mark Andrews, catastrophic injury, beginning of the game, right before he was heading in for a near touchdown. Now we're hearing he's going to be gone for the year. And I mean, this is major, major impactful news. This is a Thursday to forget. for a lot of it was it was brutal across the board i know jemar chase got the garbage time touchdown but still disappointing performance for him you feel like you lost jemar chase to some degree depending on what comes out with the injury to joe burrow a lot of people played tyler boyd because without higgins and a high scoring affair boyd's been good but obviously backup quarterback boyd is not one you want to play

Yeah, I mean, you saw Jake Browning immediately. It's the age-old tale we've brought up so many times, the practice, the twos, right? He goes straight to Trent and Irwin on like a ton of passes, the guy he's probably running reps with the most often. But, you know, huge game for Mixing, over 20 fantasy points in our league. Huge game for Gus Bus. Two more touchdowns. Big game for Lamar, relative to how it began. Yeah, 264 and 2 along with 54 rushing yards. Deucer's Alley, a little bit bare today. Obviously, Al Borland couldn't show his face. He was too embarrassed after the backlash yesterday. So he left. I think he's on a cruise with his wife. But that's actually more dangerous for him because that's international waters. Right. Where I could do anything I want it. Yeah. There are no laws on cruise ships, just so people know.

If you're on a cruise ship, you could do anything you want. Yeah, I got some friends on the cruise ship, too, that are going to, you know. Footland. But, I mean, look, these quarterbacks down, Joe Burrow. So we've got to see what the news is going to be for Joe Burrow. To be fair, he doesn't want his quarterback to be up. I know, I know, I know. But, yeah, lots to talk about, that was kind of the summary of last night's game. Keaton Mitchell, you know, it was real, real bad. It was still pretty bad. This was not. what you hope for. I feel like he could have had a successful fantasy day if he had better shoes. It seemed like there were like... Dude, it wasn't just him. There were like three times where it was like he made a cut to an open lane where you know what happens if he hits that cut and he slipped over and over and over. This was the Lamar Jackson story for the whole night. Lamar Jackson literally went down six or seven times on slips or losing his footing and then they'd show the replay and...

The cleats were just flying. So I think that, yeah, you're right. They either weren't wearing the right cleats or the field was in a really bad shape. What's important to me when it comes to Keat Mitchell, because I know a lot of people picked him up. Some people played him. Everyone who did that would be very disappointed. Obviously a very bad fantasy performance that stinks. But going forward, what I saw was really good for him. Like Justice Hill has been usurped. Keaton Mitchell got eight carries to Justice Hills one. So it looks to me like it's going to be Keaton Mitchell and Gus Edwards. You still saw the speed on display for that 121-yard run from Keaton Mitchell. So I'm actually like what I saw last night made me more bullish, not less bullish in Keaton Mitchell going forward despite a very poor end of the day stat line. Yeah, and Beckham was the best receiver of the bunch. I mean, Zay Flowers had a 68-yard touchdown called back, but.

He's had a lot called back this year. He also had another one where he was almost in bounds. You know, Beckham hurt his shoulder. They're thinking it might not be a long-term thing. But, you know, with Andrews going down, I'm sure Tuesday's waiver show will include Isaiah likely. Isaiah likely had two targets, no catches. Yeah, and it's going to include the wide receivers. Part of the problem for the wide receivers has been that they aren't the number one read. It's Mark Andrews. But with him out of the way, There's going to be fantasy relevance in the wide receiving core for Baltimore. So we'll have to figure that out on Tuesday's episode. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right, it is Friday. Put Clan Friday. Well, every Friday we give away $100 to Fantasychamps.com to somebody that supports the show. And Brian Lestico, congratulations. You are the winner of that $100. Thank you. Lesterco. Let's, okay. You see what I did there?

Sounded like a little Luigi-esque. It's a me. Book Clan Friday, congratulations, Brian, and thank you to everybody who supports the show at Jointhefoot.com. We appreciate you. Did you have something to add? Yeah, it is the season. We are getting close to the holidays and also to the fantasy playoffs. So fantasychamps.com. It's just one of those things. Keep it in your memory for when you need your hardware. That's where to go. Trophies. Trophies. Championship rings. belts. Oh. I love Michael King. I do too. Yeah. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Keenan Allen returned to a limited practice. He'll be out there. That's what he said. Mm-hmm. Gerald Everett did not. No, no. And he has been very uninvolved. And I wouldn't go.

to parham either. I just think you hope for some, you know, Guyton and Johnston involvement. Probably won't get it. Probably be a lot of Echler and Allen. Got news this morning. Yeah, read it. Do I have to? Devon, A. Chan will return this week, barring a setback remained limited at practice. So A. Chan should be back out on the field against the Raiders. I. I know I should be unbiased about this news and just, hooray, uh, hooray, 12.6 of carry coming back to the field. But, but I have to face him and that's, that's, that's going to be a problem.

Yeah, I mean, he is going to be a risky play. The fact that he is limited at practice, I don't like seeing that. I mean, Rahim Moster also limited at practice. So this could be just, you know, the treatment they're giving their primary running backs. But you've got Salvin Ahmed, who was a full participant in practice. So it is, it is legitimate that he was limited. I don't believe they're going to give him 100% pre-injury full workload. But I don't think he needs that to be, to have a good fantasy day. You don't think the guy that's averaging 12.1 a carry needs that? I mean, what do you think is maximum opportunities have been? I mean, he had 22 in the, so he had 22 in the monster game, the 50 point game. Yeah. 13 opportunities the next game, 25 fantasy points. 12 opportunities, the next game, 21 fantasy points. So, yeah, I'm terrified. I'll be terrified. Every snap of Jemir Gibbs when you face him and every snap of Devon H.

is pure terror. Yeah, when you've got those guys who can just rip off however many yards are left on the field at any time, it is a lot of fun to watch when they're your player and very scary when they're against you. It reminds me of when Jonathan Taylor had his monster year. I remember I was playing against him and he managed to be held in check and the Colts were winning by multiple scores and they were just running out the clock. And there was like, like a player two left in the game. It's like the whole defense knows. And he broke like a 75-yard touchdown right up the middle. And it erased all of my hopes and dreams of the day. That's what A. Chan and Gibbs can do. Khalil Herbert upgraded to full. Deont de Forman limited and the matchup and situation there. I just, I think we're trying to avoid the bears. It's preferable. Damien Pierce still sidelined. Not expected to play in week 11 is what I've seen out there.

Also, Noah Brown remains sideline. We'll talk about that matchup today. Lockett, still sideline with the hamstring. He's been managing that all year. We'll talk about that today. We'll talk about Madison and Jefferson. And we'll talk about Garrett Wilson. Those are all matchups coming up on today's show. We do have the fantasy faceoff as well. Fun. At the end of the show. So we'll get Mike's, he's submitted a lineup. Jason's got a lineup. And I'm trying to avoid a turkey. Of shame. Of shame. A turkey of shame. On Thanksgiving, nonetheless. Oh, no. Now I'm really doomed. Yeah. Yeah, the turkey's coming. Because whoever loses this week will be the megaladone shame person. And I'll tell you right now. I'm going to tell you right now. If you get a turkey on Thanksgiving week, I'm putting you back in my turkey mask that you made me wear. Oh, did I do that? Yeah. And I've already been in there. So it's worse now. Oh, man. Yeah, the germs after years probably don't go away because that's like an incubator. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

All right, that was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Fantasy forecast. I'm excited to talk about our first game. Yesterday we covered the Steelers, Browns, Bears, Lions, Chargers, Packers, Raiders, Dolphins, Giants, Giants, Commanders, Cowboys, Panthers, Titans. That was very fast. Today we're covering a bunch more matchhips, including the highest over under the week, the Arizona Cardinals at 2 and 8 against the 5 and 4 Houston Texans. Draft King Sportsbook line has Houston is five point home favorites. The overrunners 48 points. Does that line feel right? I think so. I think so. It's the most the Texans have been favored since week 16 of 2020. Yeah, I mean, people were wondering if my almost upset was coming up on yesterday's show, they thought that, you know, maybe the Raiders game or something.

I go weeks without them sometimes. If something jumps out, like, and I get this one. This one makes some sense, but like the Cardinals' offense is projected for 21 and a half points. I think they'll get there. It's just I don't think they can stop what Houston is bringing to the table. And what are they bringing to the table? They're bringing the best rookie we've seen in a long time in C.J. Stroud, who has averaged 339 passing yards and 2.8 passing touchdowns at home, they're bringing the AFC. offensive player of the week, Devin Singletary, who went 30 for 150 and 1 last week with no Damien Pierce. They're bringing Nico Collins back, likely from the calf injury, and Tank Dell. Who is my start of the week and my problem this week? Some story time? Little story time here. I woke up to the wrath in my Slack DMs. Yeah, there were some curse words. There were some curse words in capital letters.

Last night I'm standing in my kitchen just thinking about fantasy football as we do. Right now we really do. I had been kind of working a trade for Tank Dell and I'd been being pretty cheap about it because this manager was, you know, trying to just get a little bit of something for him, didn't need him. Trade deadline this week. Trade deadline this week. So I'm standing in my kitchen and I think to myself, I. I think Tankdell could be the dude. I think the rest of the season he could help me win a championship. I need to just pay up. I need to get him. I want him in this matchup. I need him in my lineup. I'm going to go pay whatever it takes to get him because I knew whatever it takes wouldn't be extraordinary. It would just be a fair deal. So I go to Sleeper. I open the app. I click on that manager's name, click trade, click next. And I can't find Tank Dell. Where'd go?

Where did he go? Where's tank? We were just talking about this trade. Why can't I find, so I exit out, I go to the chat log, I scroll up a little bit, and doggone it, totally independently having had no conversation about this. Earlier that day, you traded for Tank Dell? You, you, you, I was, would I, would. Boom, Shakalaka. Yeah, hit that button. When, when I saw that he was traded, I was like, No! And then when I saw it was you? Oh, my goodness gracious, Andrew. Great trait. I think Tank Dell is someone that you should be targeting. He looks like the real deal, the real Dell. And this week, he's my start of the week. I think it's a great, great matchup for him.

Yeah, Noah Brown didn't practice again. I don't think Noah Brown's out there in his 170-something yards he's been bringing to the table every week. Yeah, you got Robert Woods still limited coming back from an injury. Nico Collins still coming back from an injury. Noah Brown out in a perfect match up against Cardinals. So I, you know, Tank Dell, congrats. Yeah, I had an Mari Cooper problem I had to fix. I was pretty worried about Amari Cooper. Also, I have Jerome Ford on the team, didn't really want two Browns with Dorian Thompson Robinson out there this week. And tank Dell was a...

It was a really nice fix. So what are you doing with Nico Collins? Is he just right back in your lineup if he's active? Yeah, I think because of the Noah Brown injury, he'd be right back in there against the Cardinals' defense of 22nd against wide outs in the last weeks. But I think Tank Dell's the man this week. And let me question your, because I think Devin Singletary is a great play. There's not many matchups as good as the Arizona Cardinals for running back. And we saw what he did last week. And you know he's going to have all the work. But I want to see how high you're willing to start him. Would you start?

Giovante Williams against Minnesota or Devin Singletary against Arizona. I do think that those two are going to have very similar outputs. Giovante I've looked into recently, he's over 20 carries the last couple of weeks, opportunity-wise. He's been very involved. Man, Arizona is bad against the run. They're giving up like 24 fantasy points. They found something last week with Singletary. They're favorite. I'm going to lean Singletary by just a little bit. Okay. So if you're leaning Singletary there, I would imagine you're also leaning Singletary over, say, Rashad White against San Francisco 49ers? Yeah. Yeah, I am. Although White will be fine because he always is. All right. Two more very difficult ones. With Singletary? With Singletary. Would you rather start Singletary in this great matchup or Saquan Barkley with Danny DeVito? Singletary.

Okay, and the final one. Although Barkley, I think we'll have a good week this week. And I've been, he's on a roster. I want to throw it. Did we cover that game yesterday? We did, Brooks. Yes. Yeah, let me say something really quickly. I watched some interviews because there's been some question about the ankle and how he re-injured it. There's a couple of really interesting locker room interviews right now with Sequin, including him talking about the atmosphere of the team and how he says it doesn't feel like a two and eight team that they're having fun in practice that like.

There's a lot of joy and optimism. And I was just kind of shocked to hear all that, but it didn't sound like a guy who was hurting and it didn't sound like a guy who wasn't about to get 25 carries against Washington. But I like the Singletary matchup. Okay. And then in this same game, another great matchup. Another guy that's going most of the work, James Connor. You're going Singletary overall. These guys aren't you? I'm going favored Devon Singletary. The hardest part with Singletary right now for managers is that Damian Pierce will come back at some point. And their offensive coordinator has already come out and publicly stated, nothing is changing, is what he said. He says he likes to have both backs to share the workload. And so there will be some tough decisions to be made. I think it'll be easy decisions. When Damien Pierce comes back, you don't play either. That's the way I'm approaching it. I mean, if they were playing against the Cardinals, sure, or Carolina, sure. But in most matchups, before the injury, these two players were irrelevant.

Yeah, it's one of those things. I wonder where Singletary would be with how Houston is playing this season if Pierce was gone for the remainder of the year. That would be a different story. But yeah, James Connor, great start this week against the 22nd ranked Texans run defense. He's going to get it all. Kyler Murray, of course. You get him in there. Kyler or Fields in his first game back, Fields against Detroit. Kyler, I love Tyler in this game. The over under, here's the nice thing. The Texans are a good team. They're legitimate, but they're still not a great defense. They're not the worst out there, but they're not very good. You can score on the Texans. The Cardinals are the worst out there or among them. And these two offenses are clicking right now with Kyler in tow. So I don't know how either one of these offenses gets stopped. It should be a shootout. It should be a back and forth fair. I agree. And Hollywood should be good. This was an anomaly last week with the one reception.

You know, Trey McBride right back into your lineup this week, huge target share. I do expect Connor to be more involved, but in the passing game, but it doesn't matter. Trey McBride is a start. You know, I looked at him versus the Leporta versus Chicago situation. You know, I think that that's a coin flip. I really do. I think either guy could have the better week. You know, McBride, Leporta, Kincade, it's really hard for me to decide between any of those. Yeah, it is really difficult. I'm going to take. the matchup, Houston is very bad against tight ends. I think McBride could be the Titan one on the week this week. Yeah, it's very, very possible and they could be in a negative game script throughout. Basically start everyone in this game. What about Schultz, though? Because he has been banged up. I went to the Texans, read some stuff from the beat riders.

They said he's making progress, but the Cardinals are actually really good against tight ends. Yeah, their scheme has not given up much to the tight end position, but I don't know that you're going to have better options out there on the waiver wire than a guy who. Logan Thomas. Okay, Logan Thomas, I would be fine pivoting. Pivoting to that. He's had enough targets recently and the Giants also aren't great against tight ends. But, I mean, if you look at the last five games, Donald Schultz is on pace for 132 targets. That's rare at tight end. How do they have so many amazing pass-catching weapons? C.J. Straub. Dell and Collins and Brown and Schultz. And then Singletary catches the touchdown. It's wild. It's wild. Tampa Bay, 4 and 5, San Francisco, 6 and 3. The Draft King Sports Book Line, San Francisco, minus 12. A hearty 12. They do not think this game will be difficult. I mean, that's a lot of points.

What you have seen from the San Francisco 49ers is about six dominant games and three really, really disappointing games. You're talking about they either score over 30 or they score 17 points. That's literally what's happened every single game of the year. And those three losses are without Debo Samuel and every other win is with Debo Samuel. He helps make the offense work. They also traded obviously on their by week for a star defensive lineman from The Manders, and that was scary. That offensive line was scary the first week out. It makes this, you know, the way they play makes this pretty simple. At home, heavily favored, you know, McCaffrey, the matchup's hardest for him, but he's a pass catcher as well. So, you know, it's nothing I'm worried about. Purdy was your start of the week yesterday. McCaffrey's in. Ayukes my start of the week. And I think Debo is right there with him. Like,

Debo had his first game back last week, scored a touchdown. I think he has just as capable of taking advantage of this bleeding secondary for Tampa as Iyuk is. And so I think both those guys are locks. I would agree both those guys are locks. They're going to score. They're going to put up 30 points the San Francisco 49ers are. And if they do, that means that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are going to be throwing the ball. Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, are both fine plays. I know that the San Francisco 49ers' defense is great, but against wide receivers, they haven't, they're 25th on the year. They're top five against the other positions, but you could throw on them at wide receiver, sometimes because you have to, because the 49ers are scoring points. I'm not scared off of Evans or Godwin. I would be willing to pivot off of Godwin. I'd be willing to go to the Tankdale.

way for sure. I'd be willing to go. If you've got a tanked out type option. Hollywood who had a worse game. I'd play Hollywood over Godwin. Godwin's ceiling isn't there this year. He has three double digit games in nine opportunities and those were 15, 10, and 15. Like there are no games like the Evans games. That's fair. And the last two weeks, two catches, four catches, two point six fantasy points and seven. So. That would be the one I'm a little nervous about because I don't know how many opportunities to score they're going to have. Did you see their implied point total? It's 14.8. That feels wrong to me. Well, look, it is what it is. Yeah. So Kate Otten, not in there. Rashad White, probably not the ceiling you want. Although Jason's right. I mean, they are going to be negative game script. Could get some, you know, could be one of those last two drives of the game. Rashad White has five catches.

Yeah, you're hoping for that garbage time checkdowns, but you're not in love with this matchup. All right. Quick break. Back with some more matchups. The New York Jets are 4 and 5. They take on the 5 and 5 Buffalo Bills. The Draft King Sportsbook line, Buffalo minus 7 at home. The overrunners 39 and a half. What happens if Garrett Wilson is not active in this game? Yeah, let's start there. Robert Solace says he feels good about Garrett Wilson playing. I do think he'll be out there, but. He says he has a couple hurdles clear. With him, they have a 16-point implied point total. You know, this is really tough. Zach Wilson has five passing touchdowns and eight starts. They can't score enough to compete in this game. He's looked okay between the 20s. Zach Wilson has, but he does not know how when the field shrinks, he just does not know what to do.

The offensive line, unfortunately, isn't really good enough to open up great things for Brees Hall. I mean, last week, you did finally have a Jets offensive touchdown, a Brees Hall rushing touchdown. The wait, nope, offensive holding called back. So maybe you can get a red zone touchdown from Brees in this game. Thankfully, the Buffalo Bills, they're not great at stopping the run the last six weeks. They're 26th, giving up 21.7 fantasy points per game to the running back and half PPR scoring. So they will do everything they can to stop the run in this game, though. Yeah. That will be the scheme. That is the difference in those broad numbers sometimes. It's like, try to beat us, Zach. Try. You know, Tyler Conklin has been the most involved pass catcher in this offense outside of Garrett Wilson, actually.

Because I've done a lot of deep diving at the tight-in position for some bi-weeks in the last two weeks. Do you know what Conklin's numbers are? Because he probably didn't want to watch them. Tell me. Six for 66, seven for 70. Mark of the Beast in there. Yeah, Zach Wilson. Yeah, Breece Hall's in there. Garrett Wilson, if he plays, you know, you can start him, but it's nervous. It's nervous time every week. On the other side of the ball, Stefan Diggs had his first bus game of the year. You're playing him. You're playing him, but. If you want back-to-back bust games, you put them up against the New York Jets. You obviously cannot start Gabe Davis in a game against the Jets, so fire him up. Oh, gosh. Now, what's the real advice there? Because I know people on Twitter, they'll be like, what did you actually mean? The real advice is you can't, through the process, put Gabe Davis in your lineup. So the real advice is you're going to.