Fantasy Football - Week 14 Waivers & Streamers + Boom/Bust Pickups - Podcast for 12/2

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We have all three of us here today, which I wasn't sure was going to be the case, but everything went well for Jason. Everything went well for me. I only shared the Hunter Henry side of things, which was the primary thing. I needed Hunter Henry. Which he tried so hard to score a touchdown. Oh, man. Right off the bat, the beginning of the game, it's like, well, I'm dead. He's going to get a huge bomb touchdown. Thank you for stopping that touchdown. Was that right off the face mask? Or is that another one? No, that was another one. There was several huge opportunities here. And he still had a good game. He still had a great game. He scored about half a point less than he needed to. Hunter, great work. Wait, did you only win by like half a point? Oh, yeah. I think it was one point something. Unbelievable. Yeah, it was a very close victory. Now, it's so important for you to remember moments like this. Yes. Because these are the ones fantasy players forget. They forget their narrow wins and their good fortune on a Monday night. They only remember.

The devastating losses. Well, I've had so many like one point losses this year. So this was great to have some luck, some fortune on my side. But then not only did I win and get median because Theo Johnson just barely didn't do enough, but then there was one other. Yes, he dropped a touchdown. He makes that. I don't get median. But then there was another, my opponent who was chasing after me for the playoffs was playing against Papa Josh's team. And. Unfortunately, my opponent went off, scored like 150. He was the highest score in the league and was going to win. And so I can't clinch. And Drake May, baby, without throwing a touchdown to Hunter Henry, goes and puts up. Yeah, you had a perfect nice. Just enough. I think they, did you guys even win by one point? It was like a razor's edge. So I walked the tightrope. And you, and I did not fall. You did not fall. I would like to share some of the stuff I can share from our company Slack. Okay.

But he were just, we're, Jason was stressing out. I mean, we were all on this ride together watching, you know, the touchdown that gets called back, all these end zone targets that just keep narrowly missing. And Jason's talking about, he's like, I, I can't be more clenched than I am right now. And we got to the point where he says, my butthole is no longer openable. oh my god he said that he was so close he's like i'm going to have to get a surgery just to reopen i've been clenched so hard for so long and you were i thought you weren't going to watch my my family couldn't talk to me oh because i was just i was just like i couldn't have emotion even after after the game when everything went perfect i couldn't really celebrate because i was so locked down i was just like

So unbelievable that it worked out. It was impossible. The narrow misses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. Yeah. So I'm taking this week off because it doesn't matter anymore. Jason is locked in and we are locked in. We got a waiver show for you today. We have an announcement here. We've got our Megalodon winners. And there's a lot going on. I mean, we have our streaming quarterbacks as well. One week left to the fantasy playoffs for the majority of leagues. I did notice on. twitter somebody somebody made the comment i noticed you guys have been noticeably quiet about your chopped league lately that's because we're all shot what league what is dead can't talk no i was trying to hold on to it for a little while i don't even remember that these two guys were chopped early we were led to the guillotine yeah revolution did not work i think i was like uh it was 17 team league and i think i was the eighth to last or something like that and then and then the league's gone when you lose and you're out

that league never existed to begin with i literally don't know what you're talking so uh kyle has updated us kyle is still active uh we all betsy just went down this we have our writers joe and marv still alive and schneider schneider the uh one of one of our developers my co-manager um that's right so you should have co-manent and those teams are super stacked at this oh yeah yeah um let's go ahead and uh let's announce these megaladon winners with some fanfare do we have an announcement We had a Jamar Chase signed jersey. By the way, thank you to everybody that got hashtag triple gobble into the trending topics on Twitter. It's really kind of the pinnacle goal of our lives every year. So Jamar Chase signed jersey. That one goes to at in Shandradat. Mm-hmm. Also known as Navin. So congratulations on that. Josh Jacobs signed jersey. That one goes to Airy B-93.

And Colston Loveland signed mini helmet. That one goes to Noah at Mastow 1332. Mr. Loveland. Mr. Loveland. Somebody said the only Colston Loveland would have two of the best nicknames of the year. He's Mr. Adstead dogland. Yeah, and Mr. Loveland. Mr. Loveland is. That one is top tier. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty fun. You can follow the show on X at the FF ballers on Instagram, Instagram.com slash fantasy footballers. And make sure you are subscribed on YouTube so that you can be a part of all our live events on top of the episodes as well. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. One slight other update for Monday night football before we break it down and get into the waivers. Well, yeah, there's some stuff to talk about in the game. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I meant breaking the game down. But I just, one other thing that was going on last night is that we had our.

Prize picks, fantasy face off last Friday. Jason and I picked. Well, Thursday. Or sorry. Yeah, on Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah. So Wednesday was when we predicted them. And then Thursday the games played. Jason and I ended up tying. So we're like, well, let's tie break this. Let's go into Sunday. We tied again. And then we're like, let's tie break this. Let's go into Monday, but let's pick five picks on Monday to figure out who the shame is. Jason went three for five. I went two for five. So I am the shame. I had the one that broke me was Wondale. I had him eight and a half targets. He had eight targets in the beginning of the fourth. Brutal. And just never got another target. So Jason wide open all. Yeah. Jason like literally threaded the needle there too. Like you won the shame. It was a perfect on top of everything. But the Patriots 33. The Giants 15. Giants now two and 11 Patriots 11. Patriots 11 and 2.

Drake May 282 and 2 in a clean whoopin. That's what I call it. It was. Clean weapon. It was. And then, yeah. I mean, you disagree? Well, I, the, the clean part. I feel like it was, you know, there was, there was some hits that were so violent. I feel they were clean, though. I didn't understand. Can you guys explain to me the, the, the one that knocked out, uh, um, uh, gunner. Um. The punt return. Yeah, it was Shevsky. You just didn't want to say that. Yeah, thank you. The, the hit that knocked him out that caused the fumble that really, at that point in the game, just really turned the tides. The special, you know, ref helper came on and said, well, he was a runner, so he's not protected from hits to the head. But it was straight helmet to helmet. Yeah, but you can do that. You can straight helmet to helmet? Oh, yeah, yeah. What? Yeah, if you're a runner.

I was unaware that you could spear someone in the helmet with your helmet. You can't do it to a quarterback and you can't do it to someone catchless receiver. Someone catching the ball right as they're catching it. Yeah. But I mean, helmet to helmet happens all the time. Yeah, the Jackson dart hit on the sideline, which was an annihilation. Dude. I mean, yeah, it's just on dart. DART. Jackson dart. Well, he doesn't seem ready to make a change. He said, this is football. I've played this way my whole life. We're not playing soccer. Turn on my high school tape. Turn on my college tape. This is not a shocker to anybody. It will be a shocker to your future self. Yeah. Okay, a couple notes on that. Like, yeah, you could get away with it in high school and college because you were the 1% elite athlete.

Everyone in the NFL is the elite one percent. Even the guys who suck. You were the Cam Newton of your high school. You were the Cam Newton of your college. You're not that with. And we're not saying don't run. Yeah. Look at the guy. Lamar. We say this all the time to our kids. Choose your battles. You got to know when to not have to fight for the extra yard. Yeah. And on that one, he wasn't going to get the first down. He was just trying to get closer to the first down. Mm-hmm. Step out of bounds, man. Just step out. Yeah.

And instead he went to outer space. He got, I mean, that hit was awesome. That was borderline helicopter level. That hit was awesome. Because it's like we're all, especially New York fans, but I believe NFL fans in general, maybe not. You want Jackson Dart. We all want Jackson Dart to be great. We want all these new franchise quarterbacks to be. It's like, even with all the weird talk of Shadoor, if Shadoor is a starter, we want him to be great. Tyler Shuck, we want him to be great. We want a great NFL product, and you will take that away from us if you don't protect yourself at least a little bit. Trevion and Ramandre. Oh, my gosh. 12 carries for Ramondre, 11 for Trayvion, Trayvon with 67 yards and a 26-yard run. Ramandre with a 40-yard night.

He did have three catches for 40 more. He had three catches for 19. He had a huge catch, great design play where he leaked out and got a huge gain. It was like Henderson doesn't probably doesn't score on that play, but if that plays Henderson, he burns the first guy. He would have to simply beat one man and he would have scored. It's, it's going to be what it is. They are a winning team. They're 11 and 2. They might be the best team in football. Eight different pass catchers. seven of them with three or more catches spreading the ball around. And the one that didn't have three was Kyle Williams who had a pretty sick touchdown. Did you guys think that was a touchdown? Which one? Yeah. The left foot when he first caught the ball was already down. I watched it like 10 times this morning and.

And I know what you're saying, Jay. Yeah, because the debate was whether he had real possession at the time. Totally. And I was not, man, I was not convinced watching the replay. So my opinion on that play, because once he goes down out of bounds, his knee touches out of bounds before the presumptive second foot gets down. So it's really just a matter of whether or not. he had possession when that foot was down prior yeah and i i thought it was very debatable to me it was very debatable it was bang but ruling on the field one ruling on the field so you have to uphold that and two it was awesome yes that was going to my third point like when you do something awesome that's so debatable like tie goes to the yes tie goes to the cool i goes to the awesome yes tie goes to the awesome yeah that that would be great if they got out and they said honestly we looked at it

Kind of 50-50 here. Play was pretty dope, so we're going to let it stand. Touchdown. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. One of my tie-breaking prize pick picks that I missed out on was due to Tyrone Tracy being injured in this game. I had taken a lower number on Singletary. Tyrone Tracy left with a hip injury, didn't return. Makes Devon Singletary a very interesting waiver pickup because of the bye week coming up for New York. We'll get into it, but it's a tough decision. He did. Justin Herbert underwent surgery on Monday morning, which is not necessarily what I like to do right before I play another game. But the team is calling him day to day ahead of Monday night football. They say it's going to be a pain tolerance issue for him to be out there on Monday. For fantasy players, I do not have that kind of pain tolerance to play Herbert.

off of surgery against the Eagles. So I'll just play somebody else. I completely agree. I do expect him to play right now from what I've seen. The fact that he was able to play in the game with that broken hand, now he's going to have some screws inserted and some security added to the hand. Like people standing outside of it? Right, exactly, making sure no one could touch that hand. I thought maybe one of those tags that you get in the store that beeps if you go out the magnets. A little sensor. But some of the. you know, doctors that I look at, Chow expects him to play this week. So it's good news for... You get the extra day. Yeah, you get the extra day. It's good news for the other pieces. Like if Omari and Hampton ends up active in this game, it's much better for him to have Herbert. Herbert behind center. I mean, just... Mac Jones would not have gotten surgery on that one, by the way. Oh, no. Mac Jones would have given surgery. Would have turned it down. If you're going to ride...

with Justin Herbert to pick up Tray Lance. Oh, gosh. And get your Monday Night miracle. I just feel like Mike's invulnerable right now with his take. So I feel this. I almost brought this up. So you were talking about the touchdown, whether it was. Yeah, Kyle Williams. So Kyle Williams is kind of one of Mike's like. Yeah. Mike had three. He had three dudes. His loss scored this week. He had three. He was going to be starting every snap. It was Pat Bryant. Against Dallas. I know. It was Pat Bryant. It was to Slaw, and it was Kyle Williams. Yeah, while CMC is dominating. Luckily, he took some power from Rico Dowdle this week. That's the only thing that happened. I mean. Ken Walker's okay right now. Mike also. Mike, you need to buy some lottery tickets. Mike also in the league of record and the main dynasty league, which are the two leagues we care about, the most, the most. He has double buy weeks. He's already locked up. Like, I've got a buy week, but not really. Like I'm, my seating doesn't really matter this week playoffs. So I'm taking them.

the mental break this week next week playoff start and i'm playing mike is not mike is on a true buy but his he's locked it up in both leagues yeah what else is going right for you man you jumped in my card stream last night you hit the best card in the break jackson dart on a jackson dart in the break so i just am so happy life owes me this right now guys i'm so happy summer was rough that this is happening now and not three weeks oh yeah no there is there's pain to be had There are very, very large expectations for me and my teams. Yeah. Nothing. Good thing you bailed out on Justin Jefferson. My goodness. T. Higgins in concussion protocol, still for the Bengals. We were talking about this in the context of like, if you have the borough chase deck, you're like, do you want Higgins there? Do you not want him there? Yes, you want him there.

And because more volume will probably go to Chase without Higgins, but then Burrow himself loses a weapon. And Mike, you just spoke to it. Yeah, you would prefer him. What was, uh, I'm embarrassed. I can't even, who was that third guy who kept taking Yoshivas's targets? Uh, you're talking about Mitchell Tinsley. Tinsley. Yeah, Tinsley. And I was just screaming in slack. I'm like, stop throwing the ball to Tinsley. What are we doing? He didn't do much with it. He was the preseason darling for them, if you remember. Yeah, he, I think he had nine targets. DUD. Yeah, nine targets, only two reception. So yeah, it was like, why are you doing that? And I think it was maybe to do with the Christmas season. Like he is named for December. So Tinsley is going to, you know, this is. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah, swish. I was trying to find the, what is that? No, I knew it right. Like his last name's not mistletoe. Um, Rahim Morris said Drake London has a chance to play this week. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That wasn't a bad game for, um,

for pits last week. He had 82 yards. J.J. McCarthy expected to start for the Vikings in week 14. They have no choice. When the janitor turned down the opportunity. Adam Schefter reported Aaron Jones, not believed to have suffered a serious shoulder injury day to day. Monitor that for the Jordan Mason pickup today. And the Vikings, they basically, out of respect for Adam Thielen, Adam Thielen requested to be released. He was released. It's his last year. And he's going to go try to find playing time. Yeah, he went into the organization and said, guys, I've been watching these quarterbacks. I need to, will you please let me go? I would like to catch a pass before I retire. Yeah, he said, if you play me every snap, I still won't catch a pass. Jaden Reed, yet to be medically cleared to return to action, but the plan is to see where he's at the end of the week. So he's in the 21-day window, Jaden Reed of the Packers. Mike Evans, this is wild. Buck's head coach, Todd Bull, said Mike Evans and Jalen McMillan could return to practice this week.

You could end up with a team that has been so banged up. No Bucky, no Mike Evans, no Chris Godwin, no Jalen McMillan, none of these guys for large stretches of this season. Going into the playoffs with a team that has had to overcome some of these things and now actually has everybody back. Could be a fun offense here towards the end of the... Taz is your five at that point. Yeah. If McMillan's back on the field or your four, whatever. Yeah, I was going to say, I think he's better than McMillan. Jonathan... Man, McMillan was so good last year, though. Yeah, he was. He did the Ammon Ra rookie second half. Big news for the Cardinals. They will not open the 21-day window for Kyle Murray. They will push him out of a window later this week. Ammonrae St. Brown did not practice on Monday with the ankle. He'll be really questionable for this week. He's Thursday, a reminder. And that'll do it. So that was News & Note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance Quote Today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations.

Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions will take a break. And then we're talking big time. Playoff waivers. To the waiver wire. All right. Well, nothing better than week 14 buys, right? Like I popped into like my six teams this morning and had to switch players out of all of them in week 14 because, you know, that's when players really need a break, right? Yeah. When the season's whining down, hey, why don't you take a break? The 49ers. Mike is so thrilled about this. The Christian McCaffrey managers. Oh, because you're guaranteed to have them for the playoffs now. Fist pumping. We are so excited that Christopher McAfrey is resting right now, right now. As long as you have a playoff spot, you're happy. And if you have Christian McCaffrey, you've got a playoff spot. You have a good chance that you made it. 49ers, Giants, Panthers and Patriots. So the Patriots and Giants from last night and the Panthers and 49ers all going on by in week 14. All right, gentlemen. Week 14 waivers.

Let's start at the running back position. There are a pile of names. This is the time of year. I'll say this. I found it very difficult to put them in a certain order this week. In part because of what do you need? When we were talking about it in the office, do you want a player that has the highest potential to help you in the fantasy playoffs? Do you need a spot start situation for this week alone to get you into the playoffs? That really defines how I would order some of these players. Some count as both, obviously, but that's the thing that made it difficult for me. We are waiting on Amarian Hampton to see if he will be back this week. I think there's a good chance with the Monday night game that he will be. When is his window? Is this week two for him or week three? He would still have another full week if they don't activate him. Yeah, I do expect him back, but TBD. And then what is the utilization and it's against Philadelphia? Trey Benson. That one is really concerning. So,

was back to practice. His window was open. That was week two of his window. And it looked like he was really close to starting and then come into the following week. And he goes from a limited participant to not participating, not active. And now if he doesn't, if he's not activated this week, he is done for the season, can't return. It seems like he had a setback. We don't, there has been no reporting that he did. But I mean, you don't go from. practicing to now I can't practice without a setback right so like right now on anything's possible yes right now to me I'm like there's a greater than 50% chance that we don't see tray Benson again this year due to a setback and if he can't make it on the field so that that pushes bam night up a little bit for me it's worth throwing the name out there to start the segment Kyle Monongai rostered in 66% of leagues but he had another 130 yard game he would be the pickup

So what's funny is I think, so he plays at Green Bay. And I know that Chicago just manhandled the Philadelphia Eagles on the ground game. The Green Bay Packers are a very difficult matchup as well for running backs, really for everyone. And then it's like Chris Rodriguez plays Minnesota. Yep. And there's a chance that Jay and Daniels is back. I feel like if you're talking one week. Like you've got to get a win. I think it might be Chris Rodriguez. I think Rodriguez is a great player to have on your roster. We've been saying it for a few weeks, 42% rostered. Do you like him more as a spot start than Mason on the other side of that same game where Washington?

as much softer as a defense? Because I have Mason ranked higher. It comes down to Aaron Jones. If Aaron Jones misses this week, they're calling him day to day. He re-aggravated his shoulder. I guess I was presuming him missing. But if he's gone, I would rather have Jordan Mason ahead of Chris. It's funny. I feel like it comes down to Jaden for me, which we don't have that. You won't have that info on when the way. I don't think he's going to play. You don't? No, because he hasn't even gone through all of the contact-oriented clearances that I just feel.

The cost benefit for that team right now. They competed again last week with Marioada. I don't know if Jaden gets back out there this week. But I do think what I don't like about the Rodriguez thing is just game script-wise, it's tough sometimes. You see Jeremy McNichols in on all two-minute drills, late-game stuff, passing downs. They work JCM in a little bit. Rodriguez is as good of a bet for a touchdown. And then that's where I'm going. Like with Mason. I mean, the Minnesota Vikings might just, their offense in general might be so horrifically bad that you can't get going. Like Mason's value is as a runner. It's not as, you hope. I think that's both of them. If he's the only guy, he'll catch a couple targets, but nothing, probably nothing special from him. And then the other side of that is if I don't, I mean, my non-guy withstanding, of course, I like Rodriguez for this week, this one week,

But long term, I would go with Singletary. Yeah, Devin Singletary is worth a huge conversation with this injury. Tracy has been so injury prone. Devin Singletary will get the week off, and then it'll be Washington, then Minnesota, making the most of his opportunities. If you don't need it this week, he is high on the list. I think I haven't met three. Again, trying to factor in the spot start versus the immediate need. Yeah. for the long-term need. Yeah, and then you have the backups that are playable, which really that's Kyle Minungi is kind of that, although he is now outworking swift and in total opportunity. So maybe he is the one A, a little hard to determine. But you've got Tyler Algier and Bayshall Tootin. And Blake and Blake Corum. Yes, but Blake Horn's been getting more and more involved. The difference I think there is Tyler Algier is their goal line back.

He has used more often than Bejohn. He's got a touchdown, you know, in two of his last four games. Tutin, I don't know what's going on there. He might be a goal line back too. Yeah, I mean, they use him around the goal line. They tend to take drives. But what happened was a couple weeks ago. He carries inside the five, just to give you the context. Three inside the 10, two inside the five is last week, Tootin. And a couple weeks ago, he out touched ETN. and he looked like whoa was this a hot hand approach we're not sure but then he got injured in that game the next game back it was like all etienne but that was his first game back from injury second game back from injury all of a sudden it was like well this is getting back to where it looks like toton is really getting more and more involved so he is a name to look at because if he ends up overtaking etn which i don't necessarily anticipate i don't think it's going to happen i don't either but he is

on the field enough. He's getting enough opportunities where you could throw him in there. Should an injury happen to ETN, it's one of those flex with benefits and the schedule the next two weeks, Indianapolis and the Jets. And I don't want to miss Bam Knight there. Bam Knight slots in right behind Mason and Rodriguez for me. He's brutal with the Rams in Houston being the next two matches. Yeah, 11 for 62 last week. Also caught a touchdown pass three for 36. Like, I don't know. When you have a team that is, I mean, they're moving the football. Jacoby's always got 250.