Fantasy Football - Week 13 Waivers + Nard Attack, Shedeur Starts - Podcast for 11/25

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome it. Tuesday, November 25th, Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, the fantasy footballers podcast. Welcome in one and all. It is Megalodon Week. We have a Megalodon episode for you tomorrow. All of the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday content jammed into one. Extra large shark. I plan on going to sleep at noon today in preparation. Is that different than? Yeah, I don't usually go to bed at noon. Oh, okay. You did for a few years based on our eating choices at lunch. Oh, that's true. But there's a nap. I meant like full bedtime. I will never forget driving back in the early days of the fantasy footballers to our upstairs office, also known as a bedroom. It's upstate.

And Mike and I would be sitting in the front because you were always so gracious to give the taller manlier men the front seats. Well, I wanted to stretch out. And we'd be driving back and talking and trying to strategize, build the company. And I'd look in my rearview mirror. I'm telling you, I don't remember any of this. You don't, do you? No, I know. And you'd sit in the middle. And so you'd be right in that rearview mirror and I'd see your head back. Yeah. That's called the Raisin Cain's Delight. Yeah, and you would, ironically, he'd sound a little bit like a Megalodon. Truly a delight in the back seat. No, we got a lot of stuff to talk about. It is Waver Day. It is week 13 in the NFL season. We had some sweats last night in our League of Record with the Carolina 49er football game. What was that? Not a lot of fun. What? Sir. Sir.

First and goal. Roger on the one. And we have Rico Douda and we're like, hmm, you know what we're going to do? They'll never see this coming. Interception. What are you doing? Well, interceptions were a big part of the night. Yes, they were. Five of them. Brock Purdy had three first half interceptions, which is why it was such a close game. At 20 to 9. This was not, this was a real boring. Any changes of opinion on Ricky Pearsall? I mean, we're now twice. Yeah, I mean, I think he's got like six total yards. It makes sense. He did have the end zone. One of the interceptions was an underthrown deep end zone target, which was not his fault, Brock's fault. But, you know, puts a better ball on there. You're singing a different, singing the different song. Um, singing a different tune.

Scoop my badly, dude. What he did have a Tetaroa McMillan touchdown, which we can be thankful for that. Yeah, sort of saved that game. He had seven targets. He caught two of them. Yeah, gross. Gross game. I mean, Rico Dowdell. Okay, six carries. Yeah. That's the problem. What are you doing, man? What do you do what the other guys do? 24 carries for Christian McCafferick. Where did the games go where they're like guys where we're losing? Don't care. Give the ball to Rico. That's how they've won. Yesterday's game plan was so weird. 6.3 yards of carry, but only 6. George Kittle, 6 for 78. CMC caught a bunch of passes again. Juan Jennings has been the better wide receiver to play over the last couple of weeks, and Brock Party looked bad, and Bryce Young looked bad. Right after 450 yards in the NFC player of the week, we've got 169 with two picks. Oh, the Falcons. What kind of defense are you?

For next week? No, for the 448 yards of Bryce Young put up. This is why I consider making Tarad Taylor a streaming candidate this week. I'm like, man, if Bryce Young could put up 448 against you. Right. But then you're like, I'd be the dude that made Tarad Taylor my streaming candidate. Sometimes you gotta get. Christopher Caffrey 31 touches. Bryce Young is not thrown for 200 yards on the season outside of that one game. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like. What, Justin Fields had the one game against Cincinnati or whatever? Like every once in a while a defense doesn't show up to work. Let's talk some news. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance.

Bryce Young actually threw for 328 against the Arizona. Oh, I apologize. Yeah. I was looking at the... You were dead wrong is what you're saying. I was dead wrong. I was since late September, 125, 198, 198, 131. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are Omar Jackson numbers. Yeah. I just like that the coach saw last week, the 448. He's like, I'm changing everything. Oh, right. Bryce is back, baby. Yeah. I mean, he was like, I'm not, we don't need RICO. We have, um, the official announcement that... Shadur Sanders has been named the starting quarterback. Here we go. I hesitate to venture into the waters of polarizing Shadoor Sanders' conversation. But this is a show built on conversation. And I will say this. If you saw Kevin Stafansky's locker room speech, it made me laugh. I did not see it. It's like.

Let me see if I can put it on display because I don't remember the exact words. But he's in the locker. Shout out to the punter baby. We did that thing, baby. Let's go. Shout out to this guy. Let's go. And then a rookie had a good game. Nice job. Shador. All right. We got a. I mean, it was like, if he could not have Shadur in the zip code, he'd be so thrilled. Which makes me wonder if Shadoor's okay. Shadoor Sanders, the game was for the climate of Shadur Sanders. It was perfection. Because if you're on. Team Sanders. You think that he got hosed. He's, yeah, he's a good prospect. Well, he went out there and he won. He was the, what, the first Browns rookie to win his first game in like forever, forever. If you don't like Shador, he completed like, what? 55% of his passes. 11 total completion. He had the touchdown was a, a, just a screen pass. And he did, but the, I can't remember the number, but it was like very, very few of his actual completions were.

downfield or past the line of scrimmage. But he didn't have some, he had a couple good plays. It was perfection for whatever you want to see, whatever you want to see because he did it. He did make some good plays. There were two downfield plays that were really good. They were caused, you know, by him. And then he had a bunch of really bad looking plays. Yeah. And if you, I mean, I get it. Like if you watch him talk in an interview. You want to punch him. I mean, he just says the most ridiculous things. He is very confident himself. I, did you see the one week of practice thing? No. That was one week of practice. That was just one week of practice. It's just, it's funny. I mean, I want to see him succeed because I think it's great for the Browns. It's great for the NFL. You have a young man who is one of the most electric.

players in college football. I'd rather him go out there and give me something exciting. Sure. Then the milk toast of Dylan Gabriel. No disrespect. I mean, disrespect. Yeah. Yeah. I can't really disclaim the when I say milk toast. I said no disrespect. Yeah. I mean, but yeah, he'll start again. It's the point. He's going to start again and we'll have all the same entertainment. And the Raiders say they believe Ashton Genties late game ankle injury is not severe. We still put Rahim Moster into our waiver pickups because you never know with these ankle injuries. It can suddenly become something it's not. And Pete Carroll, he said, I haven't heard that it was going to limit him. It sounds like there's a chance he'll be okay. That's not enough for me. That means there's a chance he's not okay. Yep. And he doesn't have any assistance left to rely on for that information. So what he's got? Greg Olson is back, everybody. Oh, legend of the fantasy footballers. Greg Olson.

Two different times in his story career. He has had a top 10 points per game team. Yeah. I mean, twice in like 20 years. And they were both number 10. He was a Raiders OC in 13 and 14. Raiders OC in 18 through 21 took a little time on the couch last year. And now he's back. Oh, man. Because he's the most affordable OC in the game. He was the quarterback coach with the Seahawks with Pete Carroll. So I think that's where they met up. He must be the nicest guy. Oh, man. Just lovable. Get ready for some. This will fix it. Get ready for some positive field punts, guys. Uh-huh. Baker Mayfield, no fracture, no structural damage. Adam Schefter reporting, um, AC joint sprain that is on the shoulder that he doesn't throw with. So they're not ruling them out for this game. And I shoot it up. Just put a needle in it. Get out there bigger. I don't know what's happening to Jason this week.

It's Thanksgiving week. Yeah, I'm ready. It's Egladone week and Jason's already on vacation. He is very, he is shooting from the hip. Jaden Daniels is returning to practice this week. A long shot to play this week. Absert. You think so? No, I'm just that he's back. The from the injury was so. It, yeah, gruesome looking. What we saw in the fact, I mean, that was a season ending injury. That was. Should have been. And he's like, oh, you know, just give me a couple weeks. I'm just thrilled he got to keep the arm. Yeah. You know what I mean? Serious. It was disgusting. Yeah. Look away. Hide your kids. Yeah. It's so good. I mean, just like a couple twists. The thing was just right. Right off. Yeah. I'm carving a turkey here soon. I know these joints, you just slide it right through. That comes right off. Come on, man. But hey. That's a man's arm. Not this week. I'm thrilled that he's back.

J.J. McCarthy. Oh, man. Is in the concussion protocol. Oh, all right. Move. Okay. Per KOC, Max Brosmer would be in line to start if McCarthy can't go, who is an undrafted free agent out of Minnesota. Oh, man. Stream of the week. It'll probably be great. I mean, Max Brosmer could be the starting quarterback, and that could be better. I don't want to publicly doubt that he has the symptoms. It's just, yeah, that's some fortunate timing. Yeah. For the Minnesota Vikings to be like, wait, wait, wait, we wanted to get him. We're just so. Did you say fortunate or unfortunate? Fortunate for the Vikings. Okay. Unfortunate for McCarthy. I'm saying for the coaching staff to be like, we totally were going to play JJ McCarthy this week. Guys.

all the confidence he just can't you know what's wild is I feel like these things happen like Kyler right like Kyler was probably ready to play and then they don't play him but you know what never happens is these guys never come out in public it's like kind of you can't do Tyler I know I know that's full out war against your your management I agree but but if you really are being well it makes you look bad not not just like oh yeah I'm talking out against my organization yeah but it may like he's got the warm blanket of i didn't get benched so does keiler like it's like it wasn't play i got hurt so don't worry about it give me a give me a contract next year let me start yeah well look mccarthy it's pretty impossible to play worse than McCarthy so max proserver has that going for him the practice window has been open for darren waller okay so there is uh

There is the chance he makes an impact in your fantasy playoffs. There's a chance. Joe Burrow listed as a full participant on the estimated practice report. If you didn't catch Joe Burroughs announcement on his Instagram with the photo of a very tight fitting Cleveland Cavaliers jersey. I'm not going to say he had boobs, but he had booze. Yeah. T. Higgins ruled out, though. He looked better than I would look in that tight jersey. It'll be some spillage. Some overflow. Yeah. He's coming out of the jersey. Josh Jacobs limited with the knee. We'll see if he makes it back. T. Higgins, if you didn't hear me, rolled out with a concussion. He won't play against Baltimore. So we've got Yoshivas on the waiver list today. Jamar Chase will return after his incredible written apology to everyone but Jalen Ramsey. He did an apology? Oh, an incredible.

I didn't see it. Yeah, multi-paragraphs. Who did? Jim Ortiz. Oh, okay. It took full responsibility for his actions. But he didn't spit. He apologized to the Steelers organization. What actions did he apologized for? I think he kind of took it on the chin, except for he didn't apologize to one man. One man that he spit on. I mean, if I spit on you, Jason, and I apologize to everybody in this office, I would accept. So if you get, if you get suspended for a game for spitting. Now, I'm not saying spitting is. good or you should spit on people. Yuck. You should not. You should not. Yeah. But also in the game, you're getting sweat. You're probably getting saliva on each other on accident. Yeah, but getting drooled on is not. How many games do you get for punching a dude in the nards? Oh. Okay, because yesterday, straight up. Just a nard attack. Lower down, upper cut to the sack right in the nard wall. Just blak now!

if you didn't see this that was after the game you said was inaccurate no it was unbelievable i've never seen anything like when kyle shanahan comes out and says literally he's like what do you have to say to juan jennings for going and attacking him he goes yeah it was a cheap shot he punched him in the balls i'm really proud of juan jinnings well he's like i'm proud that he didn't go nuclear. Yeah, he didn't like do the karate kid kick. It was borderline. You get on one knee and whoopah! It was like I would like to propose. Just kidding. You're hitting your stag. It was unbelievable. I, I've always wanted to know, do, because my son asked me this, do they wear cups or not? No. Never. No. Now, Mike, you know your might. No. No. Nope. Definitely not the wide receivers running. So that went square in the.

That was a direct hit. There, you can often tell that guys are not wearing cups in football pants. That's, you know what, you know what? You know what? I've seen some of those. Yeah, you know, we, we joke about how stupid it is for defenders who, when they lose their cool, they will close, fist, punch a helmet. I mean, yeah. This dude's smart. this guy's like he ain't got my money's weird yeah if i'm throwing a punch if i'm gonna get a game for punching you in the helmet i'm i'm gonna punch in the helmets yeah i mean goodness gracious you gotta look up you gotta look it up on x because it's it's really unbelievable that a human like that takes some comfort there's no mistake there's no accident he wasn't trying to punch him in the leg and then he just lowered down it goes he got him in the leg

Rashi Rice Limited on Monday's estimated report hamstring. We'll have to monitor that. Rice has a great matchup this week. Pacheco, full participant. Did we say the Higgins is out? Yeah. A bunch of times. All bunch. Third time we're reporting that one. I have lost track of things after the nut punch. All right. That was news and nose. Sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive.com. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates. Third party insurers, not available in all states or situations. Coverage update policy terms, limits and conditions. There's no insurance for that. Let's talk waivers. The waiver wire. Presented by Jimmy Johns. Well, the Broncos, Chargers, commanders, and dolphins come back from the bye week, and we have nobody on by for week 13 putting the mega and Megalodon. We have all the matchups to talk through. We'll start that tomorrow on the Megalodon show. It will be a lot of fun. We'll have a giveaway tomorrow. Oh, yeah. So you'll want to listen in. I think we've got a Jamar Chase jersey, a Josh Jacobs jersey, both signed.

And then we're going to probably add some more stuff into that as well. Big me mega don't give away. Brooks is so sweaty right now. He's like, do we? Oh, we do. We've got a Colston Loveland mini helmet. Signed by Mr. Loveland. Oh, and Kyle wants to give away Josh. Mr. Loveland? Yeah. I mean, that's why I call myself. You wouldn't love land. You would be Loveland. In certain situations. Right. This show is good. I'm on vacation now too, Jason. Yeah. Welcome. All are welcome on vacation guys. Let's talk waivers. Starting with the running back position. We're on like injured running back return watch for Trey Benson, for Amarine Hampton, for Bucky Irving. Like we, you know, these are big deals. Big players that can make a huge impact. Like all will be forgiven.

For the injured weeks, if Hampton or Benson or Bucky can bring you a fantasy title. 100%. And we won't know by the time we record the Megalodon episode for sure. For most of those players, it'll be later in the week. So you'll just have to pay attention, follow us on X, and we'll tweet out what we can. At the FF Ballers. Yeah, we'll be watching for the Hampton News. We'll see if he comes back after the bye week. That's what the rumor was. They got to designate him to return first. What else do we have, though, beyond, you know, Trey Benson, 69% rostered. Yeah, just take a peek. Like, I can't imagine Hampton's out there, but Trey Benson may have been dropped in some leagues, so just go. I mean, like, you got office leagues out there where Benson might be available. It was close to having him return this last week. He was eligible to return, I think, in week 10. So this is a player that's, he's ready, and they've taken their time. I think Benson plays this week. I think bad matchup, though.

Yeah, against Tampa Bay and then the Rams and then Houston. So it's a really tough stretch. Holy, I didn't realize that. But I think Benson is, I think he's a very good player. And I'm excited to see what he can do now that it will be his opportunity with James Connor gone. And we had an injury to Bam night last week? Yeah. Or at least that was what we. Yeah, he got, he got shooketh. We don't have any updated information on it. But if Benson's back, I think it's Benson's. like he will get the majority. Running backs averaging 20.9 fantasy points per game against Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay right in the middle at 15 right now in terms of fantasy points. You got to catch passes, which Benson could do. Devin Neal. Let's talk about Devin Neal because Alvin Camer is going to miss some time. It could be a lot of time. And Devin Neal, you know, this would have been, we would have been talking all about the opportunity and for the same thing for Kendra Miller. But of course, we can never talk about that.

How sad. Devin Neal. Just like we'd be talking about Marshawn Lloyd once Josh Jacobs went down, but we can never talk about that. I love that we get an opportunity to talk about Devin Neal. Because this is a player, because this is a player. I know both Mike and I loved. Loved his college tape. This isn't a superstar. We didn't see him as like, oh, you know, he's a really good player. I think he's, he's very interesting. A jack of all trades. He can catch the ball very well. He's decent around the goal. You know, Jack of all trades master of none.

a quality back. Now, unfortunately, he's on a really bad offense that doesn't project to score a lot of points. So you've got to temper your expectations here. But the nice thing is, like, sometimes the backup that is left to go, like a Bam Knight, you know, is like, this is just a guy, you know, some journeyman, undrafted free agent who injury has propelled him ahead. Now, Devon Neal fell to the sixth round, but I think he's a good back. And this last week, He got targeted seven times, caught five of seven passes. Which Camara has not done. So that's wonderful to see. Now, if Camara misses a lot of time, you know, we're towards the end of the season, I don't know that you need to rush Camara back to save the Saints season like that. He keeps missing the end of seasons, by the way. He really does. But his playoff schedule, if this goes for the rest of the season, is Carolina, the Jets, the Titans.

Sure. So opportunity knocks. Exactly. And Devin Neal answers. I think so. 10% roster. He's a priority ad. You need to put somebody on your roster that can get the majority of snaps at running back. So he's kind of, is he out on the top of our list outside of Benson? Yes, he is for me. And then Kyle Monong guy, pay attention because we already know how capable he was when Swift missed time. Swift fumbled, wasn't productive. Isn't there dude? And Kyle Mononga, another touchdown, three straight weeks, 12 for 48. He runs with ferocity. He falls forward. He breaks tackles. It's not a good stretch, though. It's as bad as they come. Yeah, I mean, you don't, you know, you don't really want like the Caleb Williams right now. If I had Caleb Williams, I'd be trying to find options quickly because Philly, Green Bay, Cleveland, two of them on the road. Sheesh. You're going to make mistakes because he's always good for that.

And then it's just going to be like low upside situations for Caleb Williams. I'd be trying to find, if I've been rolling with him, I'd be trying to find some pivot. Yeah, the exciting. So the schedule's tough for Monongai. The good exciting thing is, you know, Mike, this was a guy you were talking about early in the season as you're looking at who could maybe overtake the starter, not just injury ahead of him. This last week, I know that there was a fumble, and I don't necessarily think that it has happened. But he got more work. He was more involved, more snaps than DeAndre Swift while Swift was healthy. So as the season progresses, the rookie Monongai could overtake Swift. Swift is not so talented a back that he just can't hold off Monongue. It's possible. And Ben Johnson has, I mean, slower than I would prefer. He's really slow played the rookies with Love Land.

and Love land and Luther Bird and Monongais, but they're starting to get more opportunities now and could be second half guys. Don't forget Chris Rodriguez, who got the majority of the work for Washington coming off the bye week, hit a lot of waivers, but 15 opportunities on the ground in his last start, 79 yards on that, and guess what? It's a lot better for him. If Jaden Daniels returns to his starting lineup at some point, he's only 29% rostered. So versus Denver this week, you don't love that, but perhaps Jaden Daniels is back next week and then you get Minnesota and the Giants. Chris Rodriguez, even if you're not playing him this week, you might want to just, you know, get that running back depth ready for your playoff. And he's going to be there dude around the goal line, 100%. Even if the carries, if you're not 15 or you're not efficient.

He scored in three or four games before he kind of took over. Bayshall Tootin, another one to pay attention to, but the workload, it diminished quickly against Arizona. He had gotten banged up after the productive week before. Dylan Samson is the pay attention just for the Judkins practice reports. Dylan Samson is probably not somebody you can start outside of pure desperation if Judkins is active. And then, you know, Arizona is not a guarantee Tray Benson's back this week. So. If Bam Knight's banged up, Michael Carter can catch passes. You could do worse, right? I'd still play Michael Carter in the past catching probably. If Benson's out. Over Bam Knight, but I understand the debate if Bam Knight is practicing. Bam Knight would be the touchdown guy. Also your insurance running backs, people. Brian Robinson, if we're really at 35% in Sleeper Leagues, I would not be having Chris McCaffrey without Brian Robinson on my.

on my bench at this point of the season. If you had no choice, you drop Camara for Neal. If you don't have an option, no IR spot. Yeah. And then Ramandre and Tutin, those are other drop candidates people have brought up. Yeah, I'm not dropping Tutin. No way. I'm adding Basial Tutin if he's around and I have a spot. Ramandre is the, you might have like a Charbonnet situation up in New England where. It wasn't an incredible amazing fantasy performance by Henderson, but Henderson did get the snaps and he got most of the work. Romandre might be good for a touchdown, but I'm fine dropping him. I want to hold on to him for at least another week. I mean, Romandre only played 31% of the snaps. And so you go, is that Trayvian Henderson or is that just first week back from injury? Yeah, it could be. And so this week I think we'll be very telling. If he's again 31%, then you're going into the buy week.

And then you would expect a rookie out of the buy late in the season to get even more work. Then I think you can move on. All right. We'll take our first break and come back with some wide receiver waiver pickups. Wide receivers. Let's talk about it. I would not pick up Brandon Ayuk. No. Neither would the 49ers. I don't know if we even talked about that. On the show? Yeah, did we? That they're going to release him? Probably didn't. That they over the weekend it came out that they had. figured out how to void all his guarantees. Shanahan came out yesterday and actually confirmed that they did that in July. We did that in breaking news. Okay, we did that. Really? I hadn't heard that. He said that they voided it. Yeah, the comments from Shanahan were that they voided them back in July and that it was related to some other stuff. He kind of dismissed the meeting, not showing up at meetings things because he said any player on IR, they're not in the routine of the meetings. Their schedules are all over the place. But he basically said they did void it.

earlier in July. But I mean, these two- There's no way he's coming back then. No, of course. No, but Brandon and I, I'm telling you, these, I said this before this even reported, they hate each other. Yeah, it does seem that way. It is like a personal, I mean, he is voiding $25 million. You're not, you're not coming off the severity of that injury and going and collecting the amount of guaranteed money he is voiding. It's wild. This is like a bag fumble of epic proportions. And I, he, he, he, He did not want to sign this deal with them. And it became a desperation situation. Remember the deal was locked up with Pittsburgh or he was going to go to Pittsburgh? I mean, he wanted out. And they forced his hand. And now he's like, I still want out. I don't understand it. Yeah, it's weird. But yeah, he'll find a job. He'll find a job. Yeah, no question. The question was always, is it going to be Debo or Iuke? And the answer was neither. Right. Right. Yeah. But pay attention to Jaden Reed, by the way. Designated to return last Friday coming back.