Players to Trade For & Trade Away - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/30

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. We're over here reacting to all the waivers. I need more tight-ins. Jason. It's not fair. We had...

I mean, we're in a bunch of leagues and the Ollie Gordon Express took place. Holy moly. I mean, every league I'm in, he's going for over 80 fab, which to me is insane. Maybe look, it's tough out there in the streets and you want the Dolphins running game. You would if it was A-chan out there, obviously. And we believe in A-chan. Now, Ollie Gordon.

He was a prolific. And not a chance. He was a prolific collegiate running back. Sure. Sure he was. All I'm saying is I was trying to think of like. Also a, what, a seventh round running back? Well, let me ask you this. If the pros loved him. Well, okay. Was he seventh round? Let me double check. Let me double check my work. I remember he was definitely talked up and then fell. Sixth round, I apologize. Much different. Let me ask you this, though. If Breeshall was out for the year and Braylon Allen is on the waiver wire for the jets. Right.

Braylin Allen goes for more than 82, right? Yeah, I mean, you should probably go right around there. Now, the problem, part of the, and Isaiah Davis will get work this week with the Jess. Part of the problem, I think, is not everybody is aligned on Ollie Gordon v. Jalen Wright. Correct. And we are not 100% certain about that situation. Jailen Wright was out with a foot injury, higher on the depth chart. Ollie Gordon, they talk well of him. I've always liked the film. But that's saying the unknown.

That's why I'm not, that's why on the show yesterday, I'm like, I'm not dropping 80 on a player on the worst offense. Well, second worst offense. New England, what up? I think it is 100% because it's a season-ending injury bet. I get it. Like, I'm not saying it's worth 82. I didn't bid that. You know what I mean? I had A-chan. I bid 25. My bid was 25 in the league. I had A-chan. I wasn't willing to go.

harden the paint there for the Miami offense necessarily, but I'm just trying to think of the rest of the season. There's only a handful of not-roastered players. Most of the backups are rostered that aren't available out there, like the high, prolific big-time names that are, you know, the Emmett Johnson, right? Oh, sure. Like, I mean, obviously, if Ken Walker went out there, it went out, and Emmett Johnson's on waiver. That's a $100, that'll be a full fab. But it's like the guys where you

you feel confident that they would take over and that they would be very usable. Like Brian Robinson, I mean, I don't know what its roster percentage is, but I have to imagine it's in high, 80s, low 90s. Brian Robinson would go for a ton. That's not an offense we love either. But he's not as good as. It's better than the as Bejon. It's better than the Dolphins.

You know who's not better than the Dolphins? You know who's scored fewer points than the Dolphins? Oh, man. Brian Robinson's roster is way low. The Patriots are the only team that scored fewer points than the dolphins this year. You guys should pick up Brian Robinson. He's 33% rostered on Sleeper. You guys being our listeners? Yes. Not just the two people you're sitting across. Certainly not us. He's rostered in our league. So, yeah, a lot of, you know, our chop league, we had big money spent on Puka Nakua, which is a scary spend.

He went for over 500, right? Scary spend for chopped because anytime there, you know, it's like if you then don't get him this week and lose and are chopped, it was a bad bad buy. He's probably not playing this week. But another, like in our chop league, a lot of players that went this week were players with long-term question marks like Malik neighbors. What's he worth in a chop league? Because what is he rest of the season? He ended up going for $200 on a $1,000 budget. See if double nines can.

Oh my God. Double nines. Yeah, because he's 18 now. Yeah. Talking about McCarthy. Oh, I didn't see that. Is that his number? 18. Oh, yeah. You thought nine was good? Just wait. Yeah. The second time. Yeah. Times two. That's wild. We have a trade-oriented show today. We're going to talk about some trade-for tradeaway players on today's episode. We'll preview the Thursday night game. Jump into the mailbag as well. News to catch you up on. Let's start there.

News and notes from around the league. Bears coach Ben Johnson said we'll see how it plays out this week when asked about who will start at quarterback in week for the Bears play the Jets this week. It has to be that way. You can't have Case Keenham perform the way that he did on a Monday night against the Philadelphia Eagles and just automatically throw Secret Beget Man in there as your backup. You have to at least evaluate something.

Yeah, so this was not in the context of the potential return for Caleb because that's still weeks away. Correct. So, yeah, if I'm the Bears, there's no way I don't play Case Keenham this week. I would be shocked if that's not the decision. And yeah, go ahead. I would say I would probably put Keenham out there, but the percentage chance that Case Keenum goes out for this game, and it is the worst thing that you've ever seen?

Not impossible. Not impossible. And the Jets are, they're playing okay. Jalen McMillan on injured reserve for the Buccaneers. This dude's body does not like football. No. So, yeah, unfortunately. He's flashed a few times when he's been on the field, but that's also been a few times. Yeah, so Ted Hurst, he continues to get 70 plus percent of the snaps. I picked him up in League of Record. He'll get opportunities. We won't have Baker. You traded him to me.

Did you click the button? I'm about to. I was wondering if you'd do that. Because you have too many tight ends. Nobody's, nobody's been outraged at this level. Jason is trying to, he's trying to keep four plus tight ends on his roster. Our league, which nobody knew. Apparently Andy might have known this. No one else in our league knew that we had roster limits. We've literally had the conversation before on the show that.

you shouldn't have limitations on transactions and who you like to me it's stupid i'm going to bring it to a vote is dumb but apparently i have found out that we do in our league of record you can only have a maximum of three tight ends and i want more honestly i want five in today's NFL i mean so what is the i i'm not yeah i did you take it so because i i literally went to um

make a transaction and put a wide receiver in, and it said, oh, I'm over the limit. I have four tight ends, which, what was the trade? The trade was I needed to get rid of them, so I traded Darren Waller for $1 of Fab and Ted Hurst, which, yeah, to your point of us putting a cap on how many you can have, who would you rather play this week? Exactly. Darren Waller by a billion. Yeah, Darren Waller.

Or Tyler Higby. Look, I have no problem with changing that rule. I just, it's been funny because it's been back-to-back weeks where you.

like you signed three tight ends or whatever you you talked about this last week and then you're like oh what what happened i can't do it again honestly i assumed that the sleeper system would not let me pick up more than the limit if the limit is three it wouldn't let me pick up a fourth i think that's i think that's fair and if we need to change it so you can stockpile your future titan there's so many out there i want the funniest part is i think two sets of your tight ends aren't they like

Well, I guess you had Higby and Ferguson combo. Yeah, Ferguson and Higby. You should get Parkinson too and just. And Alan. Don't tip me with a good time. Go full Rams. I mean, the NFL is not putting a limit on the Rams. Right. Oh, okay. Tell me I can't play 05 personnel. Come on. Oh, I love this. I don't love this news, though. Packers placing Jaden Reed on injured reserve.

He tweeted 11 out. It looks like it's indefinite to season ending. We don't know for certain, but it's a neck injury. It was serious. And Jaden Reed, at least according to his Instagram, seems like he's not going to be here for the near term at all. It'll be interesting because we're going to talk about some players on today's trade segment that relate to the Green Bay situation. So we'll save it for that. We all say stupid stuff sometimes. Yeah, we do, Mike.

That's a good point. You would know better than most. I will just letting you know, like, you don't have to say something stupid today. I'm not going to say anything stupid. Okay. I'm going to say something tempered and within context. We'll ask the people. I'll say something stupid. Perfect. Yeah. Dan Quint said... You're going to read Andy's tradeaway? If... Don't take it personally. There's context to tradeaways. Okay. Jaden Daniels would be considered limited if it was a full practice today. I saw a picture of him. He's got a new sturdy left arm brace. Oh, yeah?

Huh? Something you could have been doing this whole time. Rashad White dealing with a shoulder injury, receiving treatment for it. They signed Austin Echler. And then Jalen Waddle is, quote, believed to be fine despite being seen in a walking boot on his right foot following the game. Classic preventative walking boot. Yeah, I mean, it didn't work out well for the Coker walking boot. Yeah. I guess it was a different injury. I don't know. But preventative walking boots, put them all in them. If that's the case, if we need to keep these feet safe.

Yeah, I mean, just armor up. Like, these guys should just be living, you know. Does anyone have Monday through Saturday in full Ironman gear? Business proposal for you guys. Yeah. Designer walking boots. Oh, designer. Yeah. Oh, because when they're coming down like on game day and they're in their swag. When you got the big one where it's like all these Velcro straps that you're like. Yeah, that's ugly. That's medical grade. Nike. Where are you at?

Nike needs to put a swoosh on that. No, not Nike. I just gave you with the proposal. Oh, I'm going to create my own brand. Nike's got to buy this from us. Yes, we just patent pending. You're thinking bedazzled? What are you thinking? I mean, some of them. Pat and leather. Yeah, we're icing them out for sure. That would change my perspective. I was like, yeah, he looks hurt, but he looks cool. Jaylon Waddled, I do, he's the only player we're fine.

can correlate to already being hurt. So we'll see what happens there. The Waddle situation, he should be okay, but he's kind of a scary dude in terms of, we haven't seen consistency from Waddle since the Tyreek Hill Miami year. Right. Even though we know how good he is, it's kind of a weird thing and he gets banged up. Okay, any other news coming through? I do want to let people know we have some news on our site. Like if you're an ultimate foot clan member.

For the first time ever, we have dynasty startup rankings available in season. And not only that, and they're frequently updated, they're used in our trade analyzer, which has dynasty-specific trade advice. But there's also a new option, and I'm so- Oh, this is so cool. So happy about this. Because people want to know, and this has been the story of our show forever, that context matters, your league mates, what your plan is in a dynasty league.

Not all rankings are made equal. And so we now have an adjustable bar at the top of the dynasty rankings that you can drag from win now all the way to long term and everything in between. We have a balanced setting, a win now setting, and a long-term setting. So it adjusts the rankings based on your actual goals as a dynasty team. So we've always had dynasty startup rankings in the UDK Plus in the dynasty pass during the off season.

They're now available year round, and you can drag that bar to adjust your plan. So if you're evaluating a trade and you want to look independently, you're going to see who we think are win now players versus long-term assets. So super excited about that. That's all part of the foot plan. We just added it in there yesterday. Teams been working on it with us, and the rankings are up there. Join thefoot.com if you want access to it. It is only a part of the ultimate because that's where the dynasty pass lives. That's where the season-long stuff is.

If you want to upgrade or you want to jump in there, super cool. We talked about it a good bit on today's dynasty pod and just gave us some examples so you can check that out. Yeah, no, it's super helpful. Let's talk some trades. Let's talk trades. Well, this should be fun, and I'm open to full-on discussion around these players, disagreement, all of that stuff. Three weeks in, good opportunity to kind of get a lay of the land.

players that might be outperforming a reasonable touchdown number or something to that nature. Guys that we are choosing as trade four candidates and then players that we're choosing as tradeaway candidates after three weeks. So Mike, why don't you kick it off with the trade four player that's on your list? So the trade four, we're trying to find players that we believe are underperforming. And I would like to highlight Mr. George Pickens.