Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - AFC East, Josh Gordon News, Keep/Trade/Cut

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Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in, everybody. Our announcer was a liar. Oh, because he said Mike Wright's name? Mike is not here today. Why start the show like that with such a sad tale? It's because the guy said a lie. He's like with Andy and Jason and Mike, and I have to represent. Do we need to get a special intro?

Just for these moments when Mike takes, because Mike tends to take way too many vacations. He's got a lot of timeshares over in Disneyland, California, everywhere. He literally goes like. He's got that, his parents and his sister, they all meet up every year and do something. He's in San Diego right now. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm happy for him. At least he's not in Disneyland. That would have made you really jealous.

Yeah, well, he's probably in Disneyland last week and next week. So I'll be jealous other times. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast. If you're joining us for the very first time, it is normally Andy Mike and Jason, just Andy and Jason today. We are an independent fantasy football podcast. Pride ourselves on being accurate and entertaining. And we are year round. We don't stop. This is all we do. This is the only full-time podcast where we're not...

This is it. This is all we're doing all day long, every day, bringing you the goods. Trying to make it the best we can make it, our information. We spend, how many hours a day do you think we spend? 60 to 70. Wow, it's amazing. I mean, that's dedication. Not many people can say they work 60 to 70 hours a day on fantasy football. No, but we sure can. Yep, yep. And that's not even exaggeration. No hyperbole here. We got a really good show today, despite the fact that Mike isn't here, or maybe.

because of. I'm not sure yet. We're going to go through the AFC East, the divisional breakdown. We're also going to play some of the fan favorite game Keep Trade Cut, and we're going to get some one-on-one battles going on between Jason and myself. So there'll just be more room for spirited debate between us on today's show. I did want to let everybody know real quick. We have a giveaway that is happening on the website very soon. We're giving away a listener league spot.

By the way, if you want to submit your own submission, it's listener league at fantasy footballers.com. Now, there are some people that have tried to submit to at the fantasy footballers.com. That doesn't work. That doesn't work. It's listener league at fantasy footballers.com. If you want to submit an entry, some people have submitted emails that said, this is my entry. You're not in. Because they thought maybe you just email there and you're in. That is the email address to send.

If you need to contact us to impress us or surprise us or whatever you want to do. And we've had some pretty cool things come through already. In fact, I think there's like 200 entries that I haven't looked at yet. When are we going to find the time to go through those? We'll find the time. 60, 70 hours a week or a day. We've got a lot of time. But yeah, we have a giveaway coming up on Jointhefoot.com with the listener league spot and assigned to Marius Thomas Jersey and some other cool things. So you want to check that out. Here's a quick question for the day. I want to get right into it.

This one comes in from at Telastar 7 on Twitter. Who's your favorite third round selection right now in a half point PPR? So this is based on ADP, average draft position. Of all the guys going in the third round, who's your favorite? And I've got my guy. Well, let me pull it up here. And for the listeners, because we might say a name and they go, oh, that's not that guy. But let me make sure everyone knows this is the pool of guys then we get to select from. Here's who's going on today's. Yeah, as of today.

The third round looks like Brandon Marshall, Brandon Cooks, Thomas Rawls, Cam Newton, T.Y Hilton, Calvin Benjamin, Demarius Thomas, Aaron Rogers, Forte, Sammy Watkins, C.J. Anderson, and Latavius Murray. So about a dozen guys there. I have multiple selections there. That's like when value jumps off the page. Yes, I completely agree. There are three guys to me that I really love through that round. I think my guy is going to surprise you. So you can go first. Okay. That's what I was going to say.

It's Brandon Marshall. That's one of my three. Brandon Marshall, even though he's at the top of the third, I don't care. I think he's 303 right now. Yeah. He was the fourth best wide receiver last year. And I know everybody is waiting on pins and needles. Do you wait on pins and needles? No. I don't think that's how that works. That would be painful. Yeah. That sounds like you're doing it on purpose. No, I don't think you do that on purpose. I love it when we miss references up. Brandon Marshall.

is going to have Ryan Fitzpatrick. Well, we're going to agree to disagree on that one. Now, you have to ignore the Jets' Twitter page. We'll get into that later. We're covering the Jets. Well, I know. You have to talk about it. Here's the truth. Here's my honest opinion. I don't think Brandon Marshall is bad with Gino Smith. I have come around to that position. I think Brandon Marshall in the third round with Gino Smith, he will produce. I think Gino Smith is bad with Gino Smith.

Sure, you can think whatever you want about him. But I mean, Brandon Marshall's been great with every quarterback imaginable that he's played with. And he is the number one. And I don't know if you've seen the videos of him. He posted it about two or three weeks ago of him running on a treadmill, getting up to a speed that he hasn't gotten up to in several years. He's down a couple pounds because Todd Bowles put him on a special diet. Todd Bowles wants him running faster. Oh.

And he is running past. A delightful thing. He is one of the best in the league. And you get him at a value that is insane right now. If Ryan Fitzpatrick signs tomorrow, which could happen, where does Brandon Marshall belong? Because he's sitting in the third for this reason. Yeah, you can make that argument. I think Brandon Marshall belongs in the middle of the second. In fact, maybe even the top of the second. Because I'm looking at wide receivers there like.

Here's a perfect example. Alan Robinson or Brandon Marshall, right? You got the young, upcoming guy. They finished fourth and fifth, respectively, in fantasy at the wide receiver half point PPR last year. So do you want the young guy, you know, on an ascending team, or do you want the old guy? And I would take Brandon Marshall. I would as well. I think that your targets are more assured.

There aren't as many weapons for the jets as there are. I mean, the ball could be spread around different ways. Julius Thomas comes back for the Jaguars. They're both great. They're both great. But I would take Brandon Marshall in that situation. Jason, who's your favorite third round draft pick? And it will surprise you is Thomas Rawls. Thomas Rawls. Where is she going right now? I believe he's the third off the board in the third round. Okay. So Thomas Rawls, yeah, 3-0-4. You're all aboard. I am aboard the Thomas Rawls.

train. That doesn't sound as catchy as like the Abdullah Express. No. I got to come up with a Rolls wagon or something. A Rolls-Royce! I'm getting in my Rawls-Royce here. I mean, that's pretty obvious. I apologize that it took me that long to get there. The listeners didn't get to see your eyes explode when you realize the Rolls-Royce. Oh, man, I'm hopping in it. Oh, that'll be on a t-shirt by the end of the week. Yeah, you can get in your Abdullah Express and go, you know, wherever the train takes you. But I'm driving.

I'm driving the Rawls Royce wherever I want to go. I might get in the back and tell my chauffeur to take me where to go. Here's why I think Rawls is a great value. You've got a running team. And when he was the starter last year, which was, you know, a very large chunk of the season, he was not good. He was great. He was not a top back. He was the top running back in the NFL for fantasy football.

and he is on track right now to be way ahead of schedule. I think by the time the season rolls around, he's going to be pumped up a little bit. We're talking about David Johnson as like, you know, the, hey, take David Johnson as the first running back off the board. That's a very common thing right now. And for me, I try to avoid risk in that first round, that second round, because I think there are safe guys with high upside. I think Thomas Rawls could do what David Johnson could do, and I'm going to get him in the third round instead of in the first round.

I agree with most of what you're saying. Rawls led the league. He was the number one running back over the last six weeks last year until his injury. The only caveat with Rawls is I don't believe that he'll catch passes at all. That is the difference. But you're right about everything else. And he's very young. As long as he's healthy, I could see his ADP being one of those guys that just skyrockets as soon as people feel confident in where he's at. I would be happy. I have him in our League of Record.

as a keeper. And I traded for him in our dynasty startup. So Marshall and Rawls are two picks there for the quick question of the day. If you want to connect with us, I mentioned it earlier, head over to join thefoot.com or fantasy football community with extra episodes and exclusive content, the giveaway I mentioned. You can follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. In fact, this morning I tweeted out a delightful Gino Smith profile.

just to insult Jason. Most, you know, Twitter is 50-50 good news. Like, like we'll break fantasy news. And then the other half is commentary on how the other person is wrong. Yeah, look, just because we have a lot of Twitter followers doesn't mean we can't be trolls. Yeah, that's, I feel like we have a responsibility. Yeah. We're on Twitter. We have to troll. We're also on YouTube, the Fantasy Sports Network as well. And definitely check out Ultimate DraftKit.com.

You will not be disappointed. No, the draft season is coming, and we've literally put in four months of work on it. It's every piece of insight from our brain to help the Foot Clan win, hashtag Foot Clan titles. That's what we do here. Yeah, and aren't you putting up our, we have a top 200 in there for half point, but you're going to get a PPR and a standard up for us? They are on their way almost complete. So that will make people excited. Yeah. That's the other thing. We listen to you. When you tell us what you want to see in there, if it's doable, we'll do it.

Absolutely. And if it's a living, breathing document. We'll tell you it's on the list. We update it when news happens. We keep it fresh. Speaking of news. News and notes from around the league. The most amazing segue of all the time. Wasn't it? In an Instagram post, Lev Bell has said he's going, let me quote him, going to win the appeal. So he says he's not missing games. He says nobody knows what actually happened, but he's not missing games.

Does that make you go and change the updated ranking? It does not make me update my updates yet. Didn't Josh Gordon used to sound like this? Well, I think a lot of players do, right? The players are always going to say that they were wrongfully suspended and that they should win the appeal. I think that's natural. I think that's in the player's best interest to paint that picture. If for some reason he actually had like, oh, I was at my grandmother's funeral.

I'm guessing we would have heard about that now. But if for some reason he didn't want to tell the world and that was the reason, maybe he would get out of it. But the reality is he had already failed drug tests in the past, been suspended for that in the past. You missed drug tests. I mean, there are a few things that drug testing companies hate more than trying to get out of a test. And so they're not going to undo that ban. Yeah. I mean, that is not a good thing.