Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - AFC East, Josh Gordon News, Keep/Trade/Cut

are wrong about. There's players you're willing to be wrong about. I'm not willing to be wrong about Ryan Tannahill. He'll be on none of my teams. I don't believe in him. I like, you know, he's going to have some baseline output because this is the modern NFL. I mean, Blaine Gabbard has value in leagues with different depth. And so Ryan and Tanna Hill won't be on my teams. I just don't believe in his ability to get over the hump as an elite quarterback. I believe much more in Matt Ryan. Jarvis Landry.

Devante Parker. You got Leonte Carew now in the mix there. And a guy whose name is just gone. Jordan Cameron. Nobody mentions Jordan Cameron anymore. Nobody talks about Jordan Cameron. The Dolphins tight ends averaged something like three receptions of game last year, which was almost dead last in the league other than the Jets, who we just talked about. Is Jordan Cameron a late round flyer? Because they talk like they want to have him involved. They paid him the year before last. He was, he's a good tight end. He's actually.

talented. I mean, last year when we were talking about possible breakouts, we talked about Jordan Reed and Jordan Cameron. Those two guys had come from years prior where you had seen special ability on the field. Jordan Reed obviously broke out. Jordan Cameron completely disappeared. I saw a stat about Ryan Tanna Hills yards per reception to all of the different targets. I believe it was over the last few years.

But there was nobody. I mean, nobody even in the ballpark of as low as Jordan Cameron was. Ryan Tannahill and Jordan Cameron don't really have a great connection. So the question is, can Adam Gaze fix that or not? Because Adam Gays, you know, he's got a history of producing a decent tight-in number. I'm going to make an announcement. All right. I'm staying away from the stinking dolphins. I'm staying away. Look, here's the problem I have with them. You're not talking about a.

An offense that was, I can't put it all on Adam Gase to fix an entire offensive system. This is a team that was 23rd in rushing, 19th in passing, so they're back half, middle to back half, gave up a ton of sacks, gave up a ton of quarterback hits. Tannehill didn't run again last year. Oh, and let's go ahead and take a guy you love, an offensive force in Lamar Miller. Let's remove him from the team. Andy, they got Aaron Foster. Yeah, exactly.

So now you've got an RBBC between Ajai and Drake and Foster and whoever else you want to run the ball. You've got Devante Parker who's unproven. Jarvis Landry is the only guy in this team that I would draft with confidence in PPR and Halfpoint Leagues because he'll get his. But just stay away.

Stay away from the dog. I'm putting up a sign. It's a big dolphin and it's got an X to it. And I'm just staying away from the dolphin. I don't blame you at all for that. I agree that Jarvis Landry is the safest option of everybody. The only other intriguing option a little bit would be Devante Parker if he continues to go where he's going, which is the seventh round. All right. At that position, I will say this. I won't take him there. I probably won't take him there either because he's still going ahead of guys.

love, in fact, two of our favorite guys, right? My John Brown, you're Tyler Lockett. Yeah. I would take both of those guys ahead of Devante Parker. Please, please. But they are going right next to each other. So, yeah, the dolphins, uh, they have a lot of names that are getting fantasy buzz, but I don't think that with, with all those names, I don't think they're going to be able to come together to be a high powered offense, right? Because if you talk about all these names, Landry, Parker, Ajai, Foster, Tanahill.

You've got teams that produce like that, where you've got a couple wide receivers, a great quarterback, good running backs. But those are always those like top five offenses. You're talking about Arizona with Palmer and the trio of wide receivers. And David Johnson, you're talking about, you know, the Broncos when they had a good Peyton Manning. That's not the dolphins. They're not going to do that. So I would have no problem heating your advice here and kind of just steering clear.

of the Finns entirely. I feel like if they're going to win games this year, it's going to be the defense playing well, and they'll do just enough on offense to win some games. I just don't see them as an elite offense. But, you know, Arian Foster, prove me wrong. I'd be happy to see you go out and dominate again off an Achilles injury, but I just don't think it's going to happen. And I want to move on to the bills, and we're going to play Keep Trade Cut. But I don't want to leave here and bury what most fantasy owners probably want to hear us debate.

even though I want to stay away from the dolphins. Jay or Aryan Foster? Who do you take? Who's going to put up the most production? I think the guy that's going to put up. See the future, Jason. See the future. Well, according to my dream last night. We're bringing this back. For those that didn't listen last year, Jason had like three or four weird dreams in the middle of the year.

Hey, they... One came true, I think. Yeah, well, I think I had one big one, and that was Ryan Matthews. If you have any doubt that we are a year-round podcast where we work 60 to 70 hours a day on the podcast, just realize Jason, that's how the 60 hours... I'm working in my sleep. That's how we do the math. It's in the sleep. There's 50, 60 hours. He's research he's doing. Jay Ajai was a beast. In your sleep. He was so good that he finished his incredible run on a bicycle. So I don't... Yeah, that's...

That's not very good fantasy football analysis, but we will admit that. If I had to say who's going to finish better this year, I have more trust in Arian Foster at his age coming off of his injury than I do in Jayae, who has not done it yet. I think because there are both of those guys, neither one is going to get the volume that it takes to really be successful. I would draft Arian Foster over Jayae. I will speak for Mike.

who has the opposite opinion since he's not here. Well, you do his voice? Oh, man, I wish I... I don't even know how you do it. He's kind of amazingly, right? Yeah. Hey, hey, guys. Here's me, Mike. Hey, I think, uh, I'm gonna go with, uh, Jay Jai. Yeah, that was really good. That was spot on. In fact, you're listening, Mike, I was gonna say, if you're not watching on YouTube, I'm pretty sure they thought he was here. Oh, yeah, but he wasn't. All right, let's, uh... Well, who's your, who's your guy? Which one would you be taken? You know, probably a Jai.

By a nose. In an unproductive RBC that makes me disappointed that I have anybody in it. The real question is going to be who starts the game. In a standard league, straight up standard, I'd take Aaron and Foster. So, in a half point or full, I would take JJ. That's weird because I feel like Aryan Foster is far more. What did I just say? Did I just say the backwards? Yeah, you said the backwards. Oh, okay. Yes. I'm in it the other way around. Okay. In a pure standard, I would take JJ. In a half point or full, I would take Aaron Foster. That actually makes sense. There you go.

All right, let's talk about the bills. They're my offensive sleeper. I'm saying that now. That's fine. It's weird because they're not getting love. They weren't a high power offense last year. But we had a question a couple weeks back of like what? They did run the ball. Yes. Better than anybody in the league. They are, they certainly are going to ground and pound. That's a Rex Ryan team.

But I like the pieces there. I think Tyrod Taylor is a good fantasy option and a good NFL quarterback. So long as he could stay healthy, he's good. Sammy Watkins, to me, is one of the most talented receivers in the league. And I'm including everybody. I think Sammy Watkins is as elite as it gets from just a – his problem is they don't throw the ball that much. Yep. LaShawn McCoy, what does he have to do to prove more and more that he is –

a great fantasy football option. The last few years, he's been doubted. Now, coming off of last year, a lot of people are down on him because he got injured. He didn't perform to what they had hoped. But in the games he played, and he got off to a slow start, but in the games he played, he was very good. And if you look over the last few years at which running backs finish in the top five, it's all about volume. There are no top five finishers that did not have an incredible piece of the timeshare of that offense.

Is Jamal Charles an exception? No, Jamal Charles is in that. I guess when you said of that offense, yeah, okay. Even if he doesn't have massive carry numbers, he was percentage of the offense touches. Touches. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Okay, so, yeah, McCoy, I think we said it a couple shows ago. I think he could end up in a top three in the league. He could easily be, there are certain players that cannot be a top three back. McCoy can finish number one. Right. He could, he has to stay healthy.

That was the problem last year, too. They, sure, the bill's running back core averaged the most yards per carry, the most yards per game. A lot of that was Carlos McCoy was on, you know, Carlos Williams, I think, led the league in yards per carry. That being said, McCoy has to stay healthy. There's a lot of trouble right now. Carlos Williams came and overweight. Jonathan Williams issues with the law. Look, they're talking about signing Reggie Bush because they need depth of running back. That's a good sign for LaShaul McCoy. Right.

So I think McCoy is somebody that shouldn't probably be moved up in most formats. Well, and he is going up in average draft. He was in the third round. Now he is at the back of the second round. He's going by guys that I think would be tough for me to decide between, say, like Doug Martin and LaShawn McCoy. I don't want to make that decision. I really don't. I like both guys. If I had to choose, I think I'm going to take Shady. You know, if you drop Philip Rivers in the second round, you don't have to make that decision.

Thank you for that good. You have really helped my fantasy football. So if you start. Hold on. Let me write this down. Philip Rivers second round. Got it. Are you with Mike that Tyrod Taylor is a sleeper? Oh, I'm 100% with Mike. I think Tyrod Taylor, his average draft position right now is he's going in the 11th round and he's a guy that scores with his legs. He runs the ball. Does he? He also throws a lot of touchdowns.

I mean, for the amount of his percentage of touchdowns for attempt are very high. And it's because of that Sammy Watkins guy. Yes. He throws the ball up to Sammy Watkins deep. And you saw it the second half of the year. You saw that there was a change. And I remember reading an article about a plane flight that they had back where the two of them were talking, and this was last year, the two of them were talking about, hey, we've got to get in sync. And I've got to start force feeding you the ball more. After that game.

After that game, they did exactly that. And Sammy Watkins, I think, was like the fourth best wide receiver in fantasy football over the rest of the season. And if he continues to do that and comes and says, hey, I'm just going to throw it to that beast of a Sammy Watkins guy, I think they're going to be fine. Look at what Des Bryant did a couple years ago with the Cowboys, when the Cowboys ran the ball and were not a pass heavy team at all. That's what you have to hope for.

Right. Is that recipe for success for Watkins? Because you're not arguing, you're arguing that Watkins is an athletic beast, that he's a great player and a great fantasy option. You're not arguing that the volume is going to be there. No, I don't believe the volume will be there. I do believe the volume will be there the following year after Rex Ryan gets fired. You know what I was just thinking about? I was just thinking about the fact I drafted Josh Gordon in our dynasty startup. Oh, no, that's true. Isn't that a really nice thing?

I got to put him with Julio and Brandon Marshall and Tyler Lockett and Alshon Jeffrey? Man, that sucks so much. That is an incredible team. I quit the show. All right. That's it for our divisional breakdown. Let's do a few. Keep trade cut before we shut the show down. Before we shut the show down. Before it's over. It's just done. We're done. Mike's gone. We're shutting it down. And actually, what's funny about that is we're not even shutting the show down. We're just shifting over to YouTube. Yeah.

Yeah, I have a story I'm going to tell on the show after the show on YouTube that if you're a dad, you're going to love it and you're going to relate to it. So you're going to have to listen. All right, keep trade cut. These ones came in off at Twitter at Steve O Middleton wants us to play Keep Trade Cut with the Cardinals wide receiver core of Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown, and Michael Floyd. I have been hoping since Keep Trade Cut became a thing that we would never do the Arizona trio.

Because what it's going to make me do. It's terrible. I already know what I have to do. You're going to cut a Hall of Famer? I'm going to cut a Hall of Famer. I'm going to cut Larry Fitzgerald. I'm going to keep John Brown. Sure. Because John Brown. Long-term dynasty, man. Not just, I mean, long-term dynasty. He's great, barring how many years Carson Palmer can play. But, you know, Floyd might not be signed. He's on a contract year. Fitz isn't going to play forever. I mean, Brown, just his trajectory. You look at the first few years of his career.

They're great. And he could take a step up this year. I believe he will. I love John Brown this year. So he's my keeper. Whenever I keep a guy, when I decide who to trade and who to cut, it's always going to be whichever one has the most value, which right now is just so easy to tell. You go to an average draft position, say who's drafted higher? And that would be Michael Floyd, so I got to trade Floyd. In a dynasty, do you like Brown or Lockett more? I got to ask that today. That's a great question. I thought you'd probably lean Brown and I lean Locket.

The truth is I really want to lean Brown because I think Brown can be special, special. I think like Antonio Brown special special, the problem will always be the quarterback. Because if you've got three more years of Carson Palmer and he leaves and they don't get a good replacement, he's not going to be anything special. So for that reason, I think I'd have to take Lockett. I'm just curious. Let me check something really quick here. You keep talking.