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Fantasy Football 2018 - Tier Jumps, Dynasty Keep/Trade/Cut, Jason Moorisms

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Fantasy Football 2018 - Tier Jumps, Dynasty Keep/Trade/Cut, Jason Moorisms

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or perceived starting running back versus I don't think that's the case. And I will say this, even though I like Alex Collins, we should throw the caution out there that a lot of the opportunity did come via injury. And we have the case study there with Kamar Aiken, who had his breakout season due to injury. And then it was like, no, you weren't the guy we were really wanting. Justin Forsett had it because of suspension.

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This is an interesting one because Jamal Williams of the three, as of right now, seems like the most secure guy. Because Somagia, Peter, Washington is not committing to him. We'll see what they do in the draft. Alex Collins is not under contract. And the most recent update of him was that Harbaugh would not commit to Alex Collins. But I guess so I misheard what Andy said, but we're in agreement. I would keep P. Ryan, Trade Williams, and cut Collins. All right.

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Keep trade cut. Theo Riddick, 26 years old. Chris Thompson, 27 years old, or James White, 26 years old. Oof. I'm going to, this one, super easy. I'm going to kick it off. For me, it's keeping Chris Thompson. I'm cutting James White, and I'm going to trade theoretic. Really? You are going to trade theoretic to me. Sure. I traded for Theoretic last season in our Dynasty League, and I believe that Theoretic is.

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the asset I want here because while we we definitely saw last year, right? Chris Thompson was electric. He was the much better fantasy asset. What we've also seen through Chris Thompson for his entire career, we saw that again, which is injury. I don't believe that you're getting 16 games of great production out of Chris Thompson in 2018 or 2019 or ever. And with Theo Riddick, his past catching ability.

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has really set him apart. We talked on one of those stats episode a couple weeks ago about how Theo Riddick, if you look over the last three, four, five years, he is up at the lead or in the top five of receptions at the running back position. When you're talking Dynasty, you're talking deeper starters usually, an extra flex position or more running backs and wide receivers. Theo Riddick is a startable asset. He's not going to, he might not have the upside.

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that Chris Thompson has, but he has the security of guaranteed volume and a higher probability of playing it. So I'm going to keep Theo, probably trade Chris Thompson, cut James White. And I'm going to keep the guy who has more receptions than Theoretic the past two years, and that's James White. Wow. Because he's had 56 last year, 60 the year before, and Theoretic is 53.

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each of the last two years. The reason I didn't keep Riddick is because I think that time has come and gone for him to be the 80 catch, force fed out of the backfield, no other option. They're going to fix some things in their offensive depth chart there. I lean that way as well. And it's not that I dislike Theoretic. I'm going to keep James White. I completely agree with Jason's take on Chris Thompson that his value is extremely high right now, but the guy's body just betrays him.

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He's an amazing player, but can't stay on the field. So I'm going to go with James White. Brooks, so far, you are two for two on these. We are keeping different players here. We wanted them to be difficult. Good discussion. Good discussion. Look, this show is not about telling you what to do. It's about discussing these players in a way that reflects actual opinions on them and then letting you decide what you want to do. So let's go with another fairly difficult one. Robbie Anderson, 24 years old, big year last year. Robert Woods.

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26 years old, wide receiver for the Rams, or Martavis Bryant, which, by the way, Brooks, you should have found another Robbie or Robert, so. Oh, or a Bob or something. Oh.

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Robert Kraft. So Robbie Anderson, 24, Robert Woods, 26, Robert Kraft. 87. I don't know. Just guessing. Robert Kraft is 76. Oh, I'm sorry, Robert. In the Dynasty League, I'm not keeping him. You doesn't look a day over 82. But he is the richest. Martavis Bryant, 26 years old. What would you do with those three? It's interesting. It's interesting. I think Anderson has the highest ceiling of all if the stars align.

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You think Anderson has a higher ceiling than Martavis Bryant? Yeah. It stars the line for all three. But yes, yes. Yeah, I mean, because you have to, in a dynasty league, you have to say Martavis Bryant is a Pittsburgh sealer right now. He is also the third most valuable wide receiver on the Steelers. That's all I need to know to not keep him. Yeah. And you've got, you know, long-term quarterback questions. I'm going to keep Anderson. Robbie Anderson is mine as well. I'm shocked because I looked at this one. Dynasty. I don't care if he gets a four-game suspension or something. Oh, I don't either.

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Are you saying because you like Robert? Robert Woods is the easy keep for me. Number one offense, Sean McVeigh, I believe in him moving forward. You believe that Robert Woods will be the one. The Cooper Cup step up, Josh Reynolds. Even if they do step up, Robert Woods is still the number one to me. That one was.

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That's so interesting that we are that. Robert Woods is going to be a huge discussion for redraft in 2018. Forget Dynasty. When we come to this next year, where you rank Robert Woods among all fantasy analysts in the community is it's going to be wide and vast because either you are going to believe that he retains that role. Let's say Sammy leaves. He retains that role and it grows.

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Or you're going to believe that these young guys that they drafted last year are going to step up and encroach on those numbers. And I mean, I could see Robert Woods being a guy that some people are saying draft in the, you know, fourth. And some people are saying draft in the 10th. Yeah. I'm not saying he's a one. He's a wide receiver two. He only had five touchdowns. And those came, you know, four of those came in two games. So I just, I think he's safe while Robbie Anderson is.

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He's kind of all over the place. So stay water. You've talked me into Robert Woods. I would keep Woods. You do have the added, you know, one of the things we talk about in Dynasty is you can't constantly be thinking about three years in the future. You cannot constantly be looking at the age next to the player. You need to also think about, you know, Robbie Anderson, quarterback issue, legal issue, where Robert Woods best offense. You've talked me into it. Robert Woods is my keep and I'm a trade. This is not the Robbie Anderson's first.

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No. Run in with the law. There's a pattern of problems for Robbie Anderson. Hopefully get some worked out. Now what will your opinion change when Brooks's ironclad stone cold lock of Kirk Cousins to the Jets comes comes to fruition? It actually will not. That would not sway. That would not sway me. All right. You know, I don't blame you guys. Offensive mind. Andy and I have for four.

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several years, going back to the Buffalo days, really enjoyed Robert Wood's game. And, you know, he doesn't get a lot of respect. I'm still not changing. I'm sticking with Robert Harris. Yeah, you're right, though. I always liked, he always passed the eye test. I said that before last year signing that you never know. And then, of course, Sammy Watkins gets signed. Well, traded for. Yes. I'm just saying then he would seem like he had his shot. And then Watkins gets signed. And the perception was that he's the two.

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Well, if you watch the camera, Robert Woods actually stared Sammy Watkins down every time he caught the ball. Well, that obviously scared Watkins off of about 40 catches. All right, this one's fun because you have to keep one, trade, one, cut one. Got to make some decisions. Alvin, Kamara. You're trying to sway the jury here. Or Leonard Fournette. In a Dynasty League.

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Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt, and Leonard Fournette. Oh, this is great. Brooks, have you read anything on these players recently that have been published by fantasy experts, personalities, anything like that? Yes, I have. What did you read? Out of curiosity. I read an article by Andy Holloway. It actually exists. You're doing okay there? You have the blargue? Yes, I've got the blarg. Yeah, my article exists. Yeah, it's live on the fantasy footballers.com. Andy's case for Camara.

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And honestly, reading it, I think it was a quality case made for his volume to go up based on evidence of last year. This is still a tough question. And I will be trading Alvin Camara to Andy. To Andy. And I will keep Kareem Hunt. I don't know how. Look, I love both players. I want both players. That's great. But if I have to pick one in a dynasty league, I'm picking the guy who led the league in rushing yards with Andy Reed. Andy Reed's running backs.

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They produce. Guaranteed. And Andy Reed is not retiring in a year. So does Sean Payton's. But so does Sean Patens with Drew Brees. Yes. And we don't know. I mean, Camara is a pass-catching running back. He fills that role just so perfect. But if Drew Brees comes back for one more year and then retires, will Avon Camara be able to be what we saw in open space and hit in stride and all those perfect things when you don't have Drew Brees as the guy getting him.

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the ball in those situations. So for that, for, for those reasons, I'm out. So, but the, but the interesting, the interesting thing here is, the third name is, I know, we're not even talking about Leonard Fernette. Brooks, for goodness sakes, can you, can you, can you make a note? We need a shark tank segment, done deal. Oh, yeah. I don't know what's wrong with us. We got to find a way. The fact that this hasn't happened is ridiculous.

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I love it. We'll figure it out. My brain is churning. Oh, we'll figure it out. I think about Shark Tank's also, so Jason, it only took one season of watching Kareem Hunt, who is amazing, that to sway you over Leonard Fornett, who. See, that's what I thought he was naturally. For me is between Camara and Fornet. That's, that's my play. And I'm going to go with the shelf life and production of Camara only because I think past catchers, you can do it for a long time. Right.

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But anyway. I agree with that. Do you have anything in particular that has led you away from Fournet? I like all three of these guys. I would want all three of these guys. But since they're all excellent running backs at a young age, the tiebreakers are pretty easy for me when you look at injury, history, and probability of what those injuries were with Leonard Fournett, as well as the team. Now, I realize the Jacksville Jaguars were awesome this last year and they've got some young pieces. They could be...

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great going forward. I do have trust issues there. I've got trust issues that they are going to stay what we saw in 2017 just from the standpoint of usually bad teams, they come back to bad. Now, the Bengals turned it around, right? They were a really poor team for a long stretch. Are you talking about a 360 though? Yeah, well, they're getting close to the 360, but, you know, so.

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I don't want to throw shade on the Jaguars, but it's the combo of not trusting the Jaguars, the offense there, Blake Bortles, and his injury history that just sways me off of them. And I'm with you that Leonard Furnett of these three is my cut because of the repeated lower body injuries, just some slight concern. You have to pick, you have to pick something to go on in this keep trade cut. All of them have a nice dynasty future.

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Yeah, I'm going to keep all three. Keep all three. Cut the rule. And I'm... Win a champion. I'm going to keep... I'm going to keep Kareem Hunt just based off of the trade value for Camara. All right. I want to get into the mailbag on the show. So I'm going to keep us on one more because I think one more of these is really fun. Jordan Reed, Tyler Eifert, or Cameron Bray. Keep trade cut. Reed, Eifert, Brate.

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Oh, my God. I'm going to keep Reed. No, you got to keep camera braids. No, I'm keeping Jordan Reed. I'm keeping Jordan Reed. I'm keeping Jordan Reed. Jordan Reed is not long for the NFL. I, look, I completely agree. This, I am, I am, I am Mr. Jordan Reed. Right. So you're being the most honest here. It's, it's over. You can't, you can't sustain the injuries and the amount of head injuries that Jordan Reed.

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has received and keep playing football. This is the way that I see this question. You're talking about your backup tight end here on a dynasty roster. You cannot possibly have one of these guys be your primary tight in. And so if I'm looking at a backup and I've got another titan on my roster, then I'm looking for upside. And that is Jordan Reed. Jordan Reed has far and away the highest upside here. You know, with Alex Smith coming in, we know that he's utilized the tight end before.

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So I, you know, I would keep Jordan Reed. And I'd probably trade Tyler Eifford after he signs somewhere and cut Cameron Brate because even though Cameron Brate very well could score more fantasy points from here to the rest of eternity, you're just not getting value. He's one of those, again, under respected guys, especially with O.J. Howard in Tampa Bay. It's a long-term approach for me for Cameron Bray. He's likely to be back with the Buccaneers. He's one of those exclusive rights, free agents, which is.

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