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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Spooky Studs, Develish Duds, Rising Stars, News

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That was just, that happened just as like everything had just been going wrong for the average fantasy football fan this weekend. Weird things, people going down all over the place. And then Mike messages us on our Slack and says it's, it's so bad that Wade Phillips is being carted off. And I thought he was joking. I thought he was just making a hyperbolic like, yeah, I hear you. Even coaches are being carted off. And then he was. And then he was.

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Yeah. Thanks, Melvin Gordon. Yeah, it sounds like he's going to be okay, but a scary incident there. Andre Johnson to retire? Oh, did you mention DJax was, DJax's hurts? I mean, he was in a, like, he had like kind of his arm kind of slinged up and he's not looking good. Julio Jones missed some snaps with his ankle and that was barely targeted by barely. I mean, once in the second half. I mean, it was a, yesterday was a disaster. I agree. Yeah. Next week, I believe Matt Schaubb.

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should be set to retire as well. Just because you should have three back to back to back. Arian Foster. Andre Johnson. Andre Johnson and the match shop. The old Houston Texans, they got to go. That's true. The whole, like, is Kubiak on his way out here? Right. You had your chance. Does this job have a team right now? I believe so. Yeah, he's on the Ravens, right? Yeah, he's the backup. Are you? Wait, is he? I think he's back on the...

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Is he back on the Falcons? Wow. I think he's back on. He's come full. Yeah, he should retire this week. He's come full circle. That's a very good point. All right. Let's go ahead and move on. This week's fantasy stud muffins. I cannot look at Derek Carr's statline because it just makes me depressed. I believe you mean Derek Carr. 40 for 59 for 513 and 4. And he bawled out. Dude.

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The Raiders broke the record for most penalties in a game. But I love them. And they're six and two. They're five and oh on the road. They are absolutely. When I watch Derek Carr, sometimes he takes the ball from center, takes his three step, five step drop. And then he actually pulls out a folding table and chair and eats a meal. And then he takes the ball and throws it to the dominant.

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Amari Cooper and the dominant Michael Crabtree. So Derek Carr seems like one of those guys that you go, okay, well, he has entered into that matchup proof territory. But I just, I will, I will early give a little pump the brakes here just because you've got Denver this week, followed by a by week, followed by Houston. So the next month, you know, that's rough. But he has been very good. He has been very, very good. He'll be in the top three.

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after this week, and you're right. He does have a tough three matchups. If you could cash him in. That by week is really tough. Yeah, he's not going to score many points on that by week. But you've seen, I mean, the thing is, is while he has these giant monstrous games like today, you don't want to chase these points because you've seen, you know, Kansas City a couple weeks ago, another good defense. He put up.

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You know. Yeah, I know I played him that week. Exactly. When I play him, he doesn't score. He's not a lock and load guarantee, but he has shown what his upside is in the right match. Where are you guys impressed with Mr. Aaron Rogers this week? No time Montgomery, no Randall Cobb was slinging it around. Nelson looked good. Devante Adams, hint, he'll be brought up later. I like the running. I like the running a lot. We've, we've talked about that, I believe, multiple times on this show.

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of the protection for rangers is so good no one's getting open so run run the ball take your 10 yards take your 12 yards or whatever and you need to get it done so yeah i just i think that if he will continue to run that will change everything for this offense absolutely i mean you're talking 60 yards on the ground that's a lot of uh that's a lot of running for a quarterback all right uh tom brady

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playing maybe better than he's played in his entire career. Yes. But I feel like we say that once a year. Like at some point during the year, he's so on fire. But I mean, this is ridiculous. 3.15 and 4 had that game needed it. He could have thrown about three more. Dak Prescott last night, probably a shakiest performance, but put it together in the end, 287 and 2. I was going to say that I was very impressed with Kurt Cousins this week as well. That Dak had a great fantasy line by the end, but I thought...

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I thought he looked pretty shaky. Yeah, he did. Personally. He did. But we've talked about the Philadelphia defense as well. They're very solid defense. They were, you know, Doug Peterson, that defense was showing DAC a lot of different.

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blitz formations, some things he hadn't seen. But in the end, he made a play that I don't know if Tony Romo makes. He did that Russell Wilson back turn away from the pressure. You're talking the overtime game winning touchdown? Sure. Yeah, no, that was beautiful. The walkoff. Last night's, the Sunday night football game between Philly and Dallas was a thing of beauty. And honestly, I felt like we were witnessing the, you know, the first matchup.

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of just this epic long-term historic rivalry. And that was the first, and it did not disappoint. I think those two guys in the same division, they're going to be a treat for a decade. You saw that game was a pleasant lemon sorbet palate cleanser after the disaster that we all ingested from the morning. Kurt Cousins had a monster game 458 and 2.

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But he has a buy in the Minnesota Green Bay coming up. So Green Bay is fine, but buy in Minnesota the next two weeks. So he's not going to be a waiver pickup for anybody, in my opinion. No. Let's move on to some running backs that blew up. Theo Riddick had a monster return to the lineup, 8 for 77 and a touchdown through the air, and another 11 for 56 on the ground. Clearly the guy in the backfield for the remainder of the season. Yes.

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Matt Forte, 25 for 82 and two more touchdowns. Good matchup. Matt Forte took care of it. Jonathan Stewart, number one running back this week. Bad matchup, but he took care of it. Yeah, you know, again, what did I say a few weeks ago that I wondered if they'd at least, it's not like he didn't score last year, but if they would give him an extra shot or two around the goal line as the first option. Because for me, if I am protecting Cam Newton and it's first and goal,

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It used to be 50-50 on Cam or John Stewart. Now I would just, if I were them, I'd give Stewart the opportunity to get in there before you force Cam to do it. Cam still had a couple of those five-yard in carries, but Jonathan Stewart had a big day. Yeah, this was not a great week for running backs. You didn't see the 40-point week from anyone. I mean, Jonathan Stewart being the number one, you know, in standard scoring, the number one running back didn't even have 100 yards on the ground. You know, overall, I think.

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people were disappointed in running backs. How much would you give up for Derek Henry? Because you have, and by the way, Devante Freeman had a great week. DeMarco Murray had a great week. But Derek Henry from Thursday, 16 for 60 in a touchdown. How do you feel about him moving forward? Obviously, if Murray went out, right? This toe injury sheds a little bit of maybe there's something that could happen long term here.

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Other than being a Murray owner, what if you're not a Murray owner? What would you give up for Henry? Are you willing to hold that roster spot for the potential kind of league winning performance that Henry could give you if Murray was out? Yeah, I mean, if you... Because there are a lot of guys like that. I would. I would package...

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I would package someone that's another good backup running back, you know, like a Belal Powell or someone that gives a little bit of hope, you know, who had a big week himself. Package him with a decent, wide receiver. Those kind of startable, decent wide receivers you could find on the waiver most weeks and you might have a couple on your bench. If you could do some kind of package like that to get Derek Henry, I would certainly do that. All right. Before we get into the rest of some wide receivers,

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That blew up this past week, including Amari Cooper, who I had it, I believe, seven. I moved him down because Tampa had not given up a lot of passes down the field until now. Oh, my goodness. What a game. But before we get into all the wide receivers, I do want to thank today's sponsor. Friend of the show, Seat Geek. Seat Geek, you know it. It's the smartest, easiest way to find tickets for the football games that you want to see up close and in person this year. There is nothing like being in the stadium. I think we all know that.

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So, Amari Cooper, Monster Game. Yes. I was equally as impressed with Michael Crabtree. I mean, if you look at what San Francisco has at the wide receiver position right now, they've got to be kicking themselves. Oh, okay. I'm like, they're on Oakland. I'm talking about Crabtree left San Francisco. Yes. And they let him leave. And he's played up to his draft position.

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I mean, he's played... I can pretty much promise you. Had Crabtree stayed, he would be near as irrelevant as Tori Smith is. Yeah. I don't think it's... I don't think it's just Crabtree. I think the quarterbacks there are terrible. He's better than Curly, though. And he... Surely. Surely. Surely better than Curly. J.J. Nelson? Hey. We sounded the alarm early on Sunday when, you know, when Michael Floyd was declared active, but we kind of thought...

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the usage would be low, but, you know, 8 for 79 and 2 for J.J. Nelson, that's a big old game. Yeah, if you took that glory play, congratulations. Jamie's and Crowder, I believe, second straight week with over 100 yards receiving and a touchdown now. We'll talk about him a little bit more in a minute. Will we? Yes. Will we? All right. Des for four, four for 113 and a touchdown? I believe he's, welcome back. Welcome back, number two. Known as the number one wide receiver for the Cowboys. Yeah, how was Beasels?

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I think I saw him towards the end once or twice. He had some very important catches, and he ended up with a very Beasley-like stat line. Like not the first half of the year, Beasley. No, no, like last year, Beasley. Gotcha. All right, Alan Hurons. I said Dak was shaky. Hey, look at Tyreek Hill talked about him this past week. He's done it a couple times. Five for 98 and a touchdown, the speed of Tyreek Hill and the ways that Andy Reed can use him. I think you put Tyreek Hill.

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on another team, and the utilization isn't as wise. And yet he is being used more and more to create mismatches, and this team keeps winning. You have to consider Tyreek Hill, you know, Jeremy Macklin and Tyreek Hill, I don't know. Moving forward, I guess it's Macklin, but... I think the reality is you don't start really either guy if you can avoid it. All right. Muhammad Sanu, Jordan Matthews, Andrew Hawkins, all had big weeks.

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Two touchdowns for Andrew Hawkins. Are these guys going to be in the waiver discussion tomorrow? If McCown is remaining as the starting quarterback and Corey Coleman is not in, then certainly. I mean, you've got yards and touchdowns that McCown is going to put up every week. He's great for fantasy purposes. Tight ends that had big week stud muffin tight ends. Jason.

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Jason Moore called it Tyler Eifford, nine for one or two in a touchdown. He looked like his old self. I thought it would take longer. So I give you credit for being all over Eifert this week. I believe he had his career high in targets. He did not look like his old self. Old Tyler Eifert does not get over 100 yards. Yeah, old Tyler Eifert is four for 51 with two. Yes. But going over 100 yards, I mean, if Eifert is going to be that involved, 12 targets. Well, you always have to remember, you know, Muhammad Sunu.

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Gone, Marvin Jones, gone. There's a role for Tyler Eifert, who is fantastic to step into. If he can even do 70% of what he did this last week, he'll finish the year from here on out as probably the number two or three tied in. He had a single game last year of over 100 yards. It was the first game of the season. He had a 90-yard game, and then after that, he did not break 53 yards receiving. So this is very encouraging, and the thing was, is on third downs, big third downs.

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