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BOLD Predictions + Celebrity Player Comps: LIVE in Phoenix | Fantasy Football 2022 - Ep. 1281

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Jason threatens a chair before Al starts the live show

Jason enters by threatening to throw a chair, says the threat keeps Phoenix on its toes, and explains that his path around the stage hit a dead end. The desk then spots the Waffle King, answers with the King of Waffles, and hands the formal introduction to Al.

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Phoenix is the dangerous prediction stage full of Megalabowl sharks

The hosts remember Andrew Luck retiring moments before their last Phoenix show and say predictions made on this exact stage have come true or sent a condemned team to a Super Bowl. The audience then reveals its Megalabowl players, including a self-declared shark.

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Julio becomes the Queen and Jason needs captions

The celebrity-comparison slide equates Julio Jones with the Queen of England as past-prime reminders of another era. Jason later answers a player question in a sustained Queen voice that nobody can understand, asks for closed captions, and praises what 'the queen' said.

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Lawyers retire the terrifying train drop

The hosts recall that the old hype-train sound was frightening to listeners in cars. Complaint emails arrived, and the team's lawyers advised them to stop using it even though the studio itself could not be hit by a train.

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Team Asba rejects the red inhaler

An asthma tangent recruits a player to 'Team Asba,' demands the blue inhaler, calls the red version garbage despite claims of equivalence, and identifies the single Illinois audience member who understands.

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Mike's space vomit is no longer his problem

Mike is willing to go to space if he can bring Dramamine, expects to vomit everywhere, and decides that once the vomit floats away in zero gravity it is no longer his problem.

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Jason's Brady prophecy returns as a llama-sheep GOAT

The desk remembers Jason predicting the beginning of Tom Brady's end on this same stage in 2019, immediately before Brady's team won a Super Bowl. A GOAT cue then sounds like a llama and finally a sheep before the hosts identify it.

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A hamstring becomes a branded little you-hoo

Mike calls Michael Thomas's issue 'a little you-hoo.' When told he may want to retain the word hamstring, Mike says it is no longer necessary because the replacement has now been branded.

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Jason builds a Cowboys case solely to hurt Mike's Zeke pick

After a long anti-Cowboys presentation, Mike asks how much is motivated by his Ezekiel Elliott draft. Jason answers 100 percent and says he did the work that morning to make Mike feel bad. The feud becomes a water bet around RB18 versus RB19, and the hosts briefly reverse which side wins.

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Handsome Kyle Pitts becomes a cheetahactyl

The hosts admit Pitts's handsomeness factors into analysis, combine his speed and wingspan into part cheetah and part pterodactyl, then name the creature a cheetahactyl. Jason's Queen character supplies a pterodactyl sound and the desk admits it has lost control.

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Owl's board mutates Jahan Dotson

The next bold prediction cannot begin cleanly because the board cycles Jahan Dotson through Johan Dotnet, Dotting, Totten, John Dodson, and Dodson. When the hosts ask who placed it there, they identify Owl.

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Mike confesses Antonio Gibson treason

After being reminded that he was early, heavy, and hot on Antonio Gibson, Mike admits trading him the previous night. Mike calls himself a coward, loser, and traitor; although Garrett Wilson is judged a good return, Mike says he no longer knows what he is doing and has lost complete control.

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Phoenix chants Brooks into the mailbag

While the live microphone is readied, the hosts instruct the audience to cheer for Brooks. A full Brooks chant starts, Brooks appears, and he delivers what the desk requested as the best mailbag drop of the year.

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An Ohio superfan defeats Jason's geography

Jared travels from Ohio to 105-degree Phoenix after missing tickets for Detroit. Asked how far that is, Jason offers more than 100 miles, correctly locates Detroit in Michigan, and can place Ohio only somewhere near it.

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Kyle's wife enforces one league in, one league out

The hosts define too many leagues as four hours of unwanted Tuesday waiver homework and eventually owning every player, which makes everything good, terrible, and meaningless. Kyle the Borgogon has a household solution: his wife does not let him join a league unless he leaves one, although the desk hopes his initial balance was 50.

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A stacked dynasty roster asks why it cannot stop winning

Eduardo lists Mahomes, Hurts, Jefferson, and Jonathan Taylor before the desk asks whether he has an actual question. The question is reframed as 'I can't stop winning,' 'do you need a co-manager?' and 'why am I so good?' before Eduardo credits the show.

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The podcast rolls directly into an AMA and a crew ovation

The recorded episode ends, but the hosts announce they will return within minutes for a text-in AMA with travelers from Phoenix, Ohio, San Francisco, and New Mexico. They explicitly ask the crowd to give it up for Brooks and Al before thanking their home city.

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Episode notes

The live Phoenix opening begins before the formal intro: Jason threatens to throw a chair to keep the crowd on its toes, describes taking a dead-end route around the stage, spots the Waffle King, and answers with the King of Waffles. Al cues the produced introduction, and the crowd is called ferocious, sweaty, and smellable. The hosts remember that Andrew Luck retired moments before their previous Phoenix show and that frightening predictions on this exact stage have sometimes come true—or sent the targeted team to a Super Bowl. A visible group of Megalabowl players identifies itself, and one host calls himself a shark. The celebrity-comparison game turns Julio Jones into the Queen of England because both are past their prime and reminders of a former era. Jason later performs an extended Queen voice so unintelligible that the desk asks whether it paid for closed captioning. Show-production history appears when the hosts remember replacing a frightening hype-train drop: listeners heard the train while driving, emailed complaints, and the team's lawyers advised against it. Mike's asthma knowledge creates Team Asba, a good blue inhaler, red garbage, and one cheering Illinois nerd. A space question gives Mike a Dramamine request and the conclusion that zero-gravity vomit is no longer his problem. Jason's 2019 prediction that Tom Brady had reached the beginning of the end is recalled on the same stage; a GOAT sound effect is first mistaken for a llama and then a sheep. Mike rebrands a hamstring injury as 'a little you-hoo' and insists the body part no longer needs to be named. Jason's anti-Cowboys case is exposed as 100 percent motivated by Mike drafting Ezekiel Elliott; the argument becomes a water bet with an 18-versus-19 points-per-game line. Kyle Pitts is handsome, part cheetah and part pterodactyl—a cheetahactyl—and the Queen later supplies a pterodactyl sound. Al is credited when Jahan Dotson's name on the board mutates through Dotnet, Dotting, Totten, and Dodson. Mike then confesses he traded former favorite Antonio Gibson the night before, calls himself a coward, loser, and traitor, admits Garrett Wilson was a good return, and says he has lost control of his life. The crowd chants Brooks while production prepares a microphone, and Brooks delivers the requested best mailbag drop of the year. A listener who flew from Ohio because the Detroit show sold out exposes Jason's rough geography: Detroit is in Michigan and Ohio is merely near it. League overload becomes Tuesday waiver homework and, once every player is rostered somewhere, makes everything good, terrible, and meaningless. Kyle the Borgogan has a marital one-in-one-out rule: he cannot join a league unless he leaves one, though the hosts hope his original balance was 50. A final listener's stacked dynasty roster becomes 'I can't stop winning,' 'why am I so good,' and a co-manager request. The podcast ends by announcing a separate post-show AMA and thanking Brooks and Al to live applause.

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He was permitted. Wow. That seems unsafe. Once you go to a certain age, you get like, you just get to start until you walk, get carried off the field. It's like waver your health care away. So you don't have comps to what Tom Brady has been able to do, but there are some good reasons why 2021 last year might be as good as it's going to get for Tom Brady and for fantasy. I'm sorry. You drafted him. I know. But. First of all, this was the second easiest schedule in all of football last year. We all wondered why Tom Brady went from Super Bowl champion to the, I mean, maybe you don't wonder. Maybe they want to see Tom have a good year. But second easiest schedule last year, all-time highest pass attempts, through the ball 719 times. Nobody's ever done that before. It's probably not going to happen again. And you actually, believe it or not, saw signs of mortality from Tom Brady.

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on the road. When he played on the road last year, it was 19 fantasy points a game. He was on the very edge of QB1 territory. He wouldn't have paid off on the draft costs and what you wanted. So you did see some signs of that. And my biggest concern for Brady, beyond changing a head coach, beyond retiring and unretiring and not having Rob Grancowski and having a really strange press conference where he was just too. It was weird. Two gaunt or something. It was weird. Yeah, I was hoping we could. Play the audio, because if you haven't listened to it, it's not good enough to just read it. He sounded. Oh, he just sounded sad. But anyway, besides all that, the fact is he doesn't have the offensive line or anything resembling it that he had back in his Super Bowl season. They lost Pro Bowl of Ryan Jensen, his center, the guy he knows, lost their left guard, lost their backup center. He should be back. Still a backup center. Oblique injury to Tristan Werfs.

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When Tom Brady got pressure up the middle, that's his weakness. He doesn't have any of them. Alex Kappa left in free agency. Yeah. So you have a really different situation. And it seemed like you wanted out of Tampa Bay. He wanted to facilitate playing football someplace else. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Dolphins, allegedly dolphins is where he wanted to be. So the hard part with Brady is if he doesn't throw 40 touchdowns. He's not running. He's not a Tray Lance or a Jalen Hertz or any of these guys that give you points with his legs. So I think, unlike Jason, who just poorly mistimed his prediction, we're going to see it start to fall apart. And, you know, no one believes it about Peyton Manning. It eventually happened. Oh, it happened. And he won a Super Bowl, which Brady will probably still do. But it wasn't because Peyton Manning was elite. So it's bold. It's scary.

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I'll probably regret it, but I'm going to go with it. To be fair, mine was it was the beginning of the end. So, I mean, were you right? Yeah, I was still right. As long as it happened someday, that was the beginning moment. Sounds like how Jason would do that. Yeah. All right, Mike, you're up. Chris Olave will be the Saints number one fantasy wide receiver at the end of the year. All right, we're on board with that one. That's good. Remember what happened with Chris Olave, rookie wide receiver. The Saints went not just in, all in on Chris Olabe. They drafted him 11th overall, but here's what it took. The Saints traded a second, two thirds, a fourth round pick. They moved up to 18 to 6th. Like, they moved up so many times that it was, well, I guess the Saints. What are they doing? They really want to go get.

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Malik Willis, they really want to go get Kenny Pickett because nobody in their right mind trades this capital for anything but a quarterback. So that's why it was so shocking that all this, when the name came out, Chris Oliva, wide receiver, Ohio, and you're like, okay, okay, then what, well, what about? I thought Michael Thomas was there. Michael Thomas? Yes, Michael Thomas. In training camp, Olave has been absolutely dominating the training camp leader in targets receptions and yes i get it michael thomas missed some time with a little you-hoo but that's part of the problem michael thomas right with a little you just just skipping the handstring you might want to keep the hamstring in it i don't think i need to do that anymore all right we've branded that yeah but the the point is michael thomas we haven't seen him in years catch a touchdown jarvis landry

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Good wide receiver, but we're just, I do not think we are there with Jarvis Lander being a dominant fantasy force. Since 2014, we've talked about this stat a lot, but rookie wide receivers in the top 15, they average over 19% of the targets. And just look at the disparity between Michael Thomas and Chris Olive. And when you're staring down that decision, do you really want to bet on a player who hasn't caught a touchdown in multiple years? And on top of that, like with the knock on Michael Thomas, well, he runs, he runs the slant route. He runs like real close. Another slant route. Yeah, you're like, hold on, hold on. Backward slant route. Yeah, this was run this out. No, no, no, no, no. Let's run another slant route. So Crystal Lave, by the end of the year, he is the one who has the talent. He has the upside. James looks fantastic throughout the preseason. The Saints of the whole look fantastic. And I just, I think that.

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drafting Michael Thomas and buy it to when you get Thomas on your team you don't want Thomas and a lobby so I am saying just skip it just skip it just ski like you know the old 80s the old 80s toy skip it just and like because if you draft Michael Thomas that thing's going right into your shin and you're gonna have a bruise and you're gonna have an issue and you're gonna it's you're gonna pay for it those are painful yeah terrible but you know what's not terrible crystal Lave who it would not shock me if he ends up as the number one fantasy

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rookie wide receiver of this class. And I think that you should be drafting him everywhere you possibly. Put him in order. Olavé, Thomas, and Landry. Is that the order? Yeah. That you had dropped him. Yeah, but it's Olabe. Put him in order, ABC. Thank you for lining that up for me. All right. I want to talk about your team. America's team. Okay. The Dallas Cowboys. We got any Dallas. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Hey, well, hey. I am shocked. Hold on, hold on. Let's restart that. Do we have any Dallas Cowboy fans in the head? Okay. Well, listen, listen, you guys close your ears because every single Dallas Cowboys player will finish behind their ADP this year. Oh.

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Now, that may sound like some outlandish take. That sounds like an outlandish take. Would you believe that this actually already happened last year? This year? Last year. Last year, Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott, C.D. Lamb, Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, and Blake Jarwin, all finished behind where they were drafted. You're using Jarwin? He was the tight and drafted. But people weren't drafting Dalton Schultz. Yeah, but it's rude. Well, sure. Where was Gallup drafted last year? Gallup was drafted as the wide receiver. There it is. It's the only way I could jackknife it in, Mike. I know you wanted it. That was all I had. So this year, look, you've got Dak Prescott. He's being drafted as the quarterback 10. I have him as the quarterback 13. I think he's going to be fine. I'm not saying he's going to suck, but he's not elite.

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He's lost at the beginning of the year Michael Gallup. He's lost to Mari Cooper and there's a hodgepodge of not highly drafted rookies around CD Lamb. Now let's talk about CD Lamb. He's being drafted as the wide receiver six. He's a my guy for me last year. I think he's extremely talented. I've got him right now as the wide receiver eight in my rankings. And I think that that is darn near his ceiling. Like I think right now when you are drafting him, this is, you know, we've never seen Dak. target anyone over 132 targets in a season, including the half-year stretch if you extrapolated out to 17 games with Amari Cooper. Ezekiel Elliott is currently the running back 15, and I know we've brought up the fact that, look, last year he was the running back six. But that's not true. I mean, he was the running back six at the end of the year, but that's only because he didn't get injured. It's only because he didn't get injured. On a per game basis, he's only because he finished as the running back six. No, it's because he- Otherwise, it wouldn't be true.

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He finished as the... I am trying to figure this one out. You just said because he didn't get hurt. So if he had been hurt, he would have not been that. Listen. Got it. We talk about him being the running back six as if he was the sixth best running back in fantasy football. That is hogwash. He happened to play 17 games. On a per game basis, he was the running back 16 already behind where he's being drafted as the running back 15. So if you want someone who might be able to stay, you know, healthy for 70 games, Zika has been a model of health, great, but he's not going to get more efficient this year being older with a worse offensive line. Michael Gallup is being drafted as the wide receiver 54. He's not going to finish there because he's going to miss some games in the beginning of the season. And Dalton Schultz, I mean,

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He has very limited upside, and he's being drafted in a place where you're talking about really, really good wide receivers on the board that you're sacrificing to take a middle of the road tight in. And then something happened to this team that I already was kind of down on. The left tackle, Tyrant Smith, got injured. He's done. He's done basically for the season. He might come back at the end of the year. I doubt it, but maybe it's irrelevant for fantasy football purposes. According to Warren Sharp, we have three years of data with over 400 snaps with and without Tyron Smith. On running back runs in the first three quarters, Dallas goes from the literal number one in the NFL with Smith on the field to the...

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31st best team in the NFL. How about their passing efficiency? Passing efficiency. They will still have a Smith on the field, but not the one you want. But not the good one. Right. They're passing efficiency on first down. It goes from number nine to number 30. This is a massive blow to the Dallas Cowboys offense. And so I personally think that the Dallas Cowboys, for fantasy purposes, are a bad investment. They're all going to finish behind ADP this season. Which, based on the earlier reaction, you're all happy about it? It sounded like it. Yeah. See, they're stuck because they drafted Cowboys, but then they don't like the Cowboys, but then the Cowboys have to do good, but they want them to do bad? That's the magic of fantasy. I got a question for Jason. Okay. How much of this analysis is because I drafted Z-Class night? 100%. Okay. That's it? You're just trying to make me feel bad? I did this all this morning.

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I woke up, but I said, let me look at Mike's roster. You should feel happy after the Brady prediction. Well, I feel really happy about the part where he finished at the running back six, but he didn't actually, except that he did. But he didn't because he did. Enjoy having the 16th best running back who finishes his running back six. You won't win fantasy games that way. With the running back 16? Now when you draft them ahead of that. At 15? Shh. Andy. Should there be some sort of water bet here? Sure. Okay. Okay. All right. I have a button. Zeke does not finish as a top 15 running back in points per game. Oh. But his ADP is 15. And I'm saying that that's a bet. Did you drop them yesterday? 20. 18. 18. Wait. 19. 18 and a half. 18, I win. 19. You win. Or it's just the reverse. All right. All right.

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Waterbed. Nonsense. All right. Except when he finishes at 19, he didn't actually finish at 19 because he got hurt. Now, real quick, am I remembering it correctly that you drafted him over Steve Buscemi? I did. Okay, yeah. Mistake. All right, we each have one more bold prediction for you. Ready? I'm really excited about this one, because if I say it, it all come true, right? Definitely. Kyle Pitts ends up the number one overall tied-in in fantasy football, despite all the madness at quarterback in Atlanta, because he's not normal. No. He is abnormal, and he is wonderful, and we need to reevaluate who Kyle Pitts really is. Let me remind you a few little factoids about Kyle Pitts. Okay. Six-six.

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246, ran a 4-4, 99th. Yeah, handsome. As handsome as they come. That factors into our analysis. We won't lie. He's got a longer wingspan than any wide receiver or tight end in the NFL in the last 20 years. Okay? That's not normal. That's part cheetah, part teradactyl. That was the sound effect from earlier. That was a real teradactal. Listen to this. The only rookies in NFL history with 1,000 receiving yards and average 15 yards per reception as 21-year-old players, which is what Kyle Pitts did last year. It's not going to take me long to get through this list. Randy Moss, Mike Evans, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. That's a good list. That's all. He is special. You're looking at Travis Kelsey getting older.

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Kyle Pitts is a difference maker at the position that people want to worry about the quarterback situation and draft other players ahead of him. You want to look at the rookie season and say, well, that was pretty nice for a tight end. He had 110 target, he had 110 target 68 for over 1,000, one touchdown, and he has four other players in history that he has in that company of doing that. The touchdowns are going to come. His year with the touchdowns, it was super weird. Since 1990, 18 different rookies have gone over 1,000 receiving yards. They've averaged six touchdowns. A lot of them have been more. Moss was 17, Evans was 12, Jefferson 7, Jamar Chase was 13. He had one. So you get an average amount of touchdowns last year. Kyle Pitts is going to be in the discussion for the number one overall tight-end drafted in redraft leagues, not just in dynasty leagues. And so what I'm saying is, look, we're scared of what we don't understand.

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like, cheetahactyls. We don't know what to do with them. But I think this year you're going to see something from Kyle Pitts you've never seen before. Maybe begin the long and majestic run of Kyle Pitts being the number one tied in for the next decade. Thank you. That was the queen doing a terra-dactyl. We have lost it. This is a great show. Mike, what do you got for us? All right, so this one, it's a little, it's like a sour patch, kids. I mean, like a little sour at the beginning, but then you'll get to the sweetness. Johan Dotnet. Dotting. Dotting. Dotting. We got Totten in here. John Dodson. Dodson. We've got Dodson here. When did we get that? I don't know. I saw it. Who put that on the board? Owl. Johan Dotson finishes with as many top 15 weeks as Terry McLaurin.

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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's the response. I need it. Look, here's what's going on in the draft. I'll get to Carson Wentz. Hold your horses over there. Also never yell his name. Shame on you. That's Carson's father over there. No profanity. On Sleeper, here's what's going on with the ADP for first round Jahan Dodson. Terry McLaurin being drafted as the wide receiver 14 in the fourth round, which Some people are fine with that. Some people think that's a little bit rich. Meanwhile, his teammate, Dotson, wide receiver 57, going at the back of the 13th round in your home drafts. That gap assumes that it's Terry McLaurin and Dotson has a 0.0% chance of doing anything. But remember the story for what happened with Dotson yet.

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Terry McLaurin, he got his three-year extension. We know he got the bag. And you love him. I love the player. That's what this hurts me because I love the player. I love the man. That must mean it's true. Terry McLaurin is an excellent human being. But for, for fantasy football, they drafted Dodson in the first round. two months before they extended Terry McLaurin. He was already in the plans. They weren't 100% sure that they were going to be able to extend Terry McLaren. He gets lost in the shuffle. He was taken 16th overall. That is one spot higher than C.D. Lamb went in the 2020 NFL draft. People don't realize how high Johan Dodson was drafted because before the draft, he wasn't Garrett Wilson, Drake London, Traylon Burks. He wasn't draft Twitter.

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Didn't love Jahan Dotson, but the NFL did. So you need to reevaluate what you think of Jahan Dotson. Last year, Terry McLaurin, for all of his greatness, he was in the top 15 four times. It was a complete and total boom and bust to extend that out further. He finished in the top 30 those four times. It was a pretty rough year. And now... As the crowd eloquently pointed out, Carson Wentz is the quarterback, a P-U, because that guy sucks. Look, the training camp reports on Dotson are fantastic. Go look at what's going on in the preseason in snaps. You know who's there stride for stride with Terry McLaurin getting the exact same amount of snaps and similar targets? It is Jahan Dotson who is being left into the back of the 13th round, which is ridiculous. So this is,

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I guess a little bit of an anti-Terry McLaurin ADP, very pro Jahan Dotson ADP. And I think that the gap between them is not what the ADP says about him. Mike, you were early and heavy and hot on Antonio Gibson and Terry McLaren. Yes. And I think they've been very good. Yeah, they've paid off. And you are pretty much OUT on those guys now. I don't know why we need to bring up. Come on! How does that make you feel? Talk to us, man. I got to tell the people something. I traded Antonio in my Dynasty League. When, Mike, I traded him, and I feel like a coward. Mike, when? And I'm a loser and a traitor. When did you do this? Last night. Oh, yeah. Oh, no.

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I got Garrett Wilson. It was fine. It is a good deal. It's a good trade. I think, because you know who sucks, Zach Wilson. I don't know what I'm doing in my life anymore. I've lost complete control. All right, Mr. Moore, you get to close out the bold predictions. All right, I will finish our bold predictions with this one. Let's end with some real strong positivity. Yeah. Say something nice. Well, Travis Kelsey. Yeah. Is not a top three tight end. Look, I'm not here to bury Kelsey, but I have taken a firm stance on him in just throw dirt. Well, he's not top three. I'm not saying he's going to be bad or ruined. I do think that he is, yeah, I didn't, I didn't dig the grave. I'm just putting a little dirt on him.

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The reality is I haven't drafted him at all in my best ball leagues. I think he is a bad draft pick for where he's going, which is wild because his ADP basically hasn't changed from last year. He's going at the end of the first or the beginning of the second in every single league, just like he was last year. In fact, his specific ADP is the third highest tight-end ADP ever tied with 2016 Gronk and the 2019 version of Travis Kelsey. He's not... two years younger, he's two years older now. Travis Kelsey, if he is not the tight-in one based on where you draft him, you are going to be majorly behind the eight ball in your drafts for your league if he doesn't return on that value. He turns 33 in October. Since 2000, there have been zero age 33 tight-in finishes in the top three. There's only been one in the top five, and it was Tony Gonzalez.

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First Ballot Hall of Famer with Atlanta. He went 83, 667, 8667 and 6. If Kelsey does that, you are going to be so mad that you drafted Travis Kelsey. Basically, if he doesn't hit 90, 11707, you're going to be disappointed. And since the turn of the century, the best yardage for tight ends age 33 or older is 930, which was Tony Gonzalez. and 872 by Antonio Gates. These are two of the best. These aren't like randos, like, oh, well, Travis Kelsey's great. Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates are as good as tight ends have ever been. So my point is right now, Mark Andrews is the man. Kyle Pitts, Andy, is the man. Kittle and Waller cost you nothing. They are younger athletes at this point, and Tyree Kill is gone. Teams could never focus on Travis Kelsey in the past.

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And it's a new offense. You've got Juju and MVS and Sky Moore. They're going to spread the ball around. If you look at kind of the snap percentages of Kelsey over the last several years, it's dropped every year. I am not saying Travis Kelsey is going to be irrelevant and he's a bust and he's going to be the, you know, you're going to be saying that you're dropped. No, I'm saying he's a bad pick for fantasy. Oh, that's not very bold. He will, he will, he's a bust. I mean, what a bum. I mean, look, I'm just saying. If you're saying he won't return on 80P. And you'll be really mad. If you draft him in the first and he's not great and you're saying he won't be. No, that's fine. B-U-S-T bus. Semantics, I accept that Travis Kelsey will be a bust for fantasy. Oh, my gosh. You heard of here first bust. My point is I'm not saying he's going to be irrelevant. But he is not going to return on the value. And I don't think he finishes as a top three tight-in this year. Well, sure.

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That's what you think. Travis Kelsey in the first or Dalton Schultz in the seventh? I will take Cole Komett, please. That's a good answer. That's a good answer. All right, are you guys, are you guys ready for a mailbag? This is on you, people. I better hear it. Brooks are, oh, wait, we're getting the microphone ready. All right, just cheer for Brooks because we're waiting a second. Brooks, Brooks, Brooks, Brooks. Oh, yeah. Oh, there he is. All right, I want the best mailbag drop we've heard all year. Hit it. Mailbag. That was nice. Very well done. That was not a bust at all. Next question. All right, hopping into the mailbag, who do we have? My name is Jared. Jared. What's your question? All right, so considering the ever-growing popularity of full point P.P.

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And teams switching to RB committees. Where do you see 4C running back value changing in dynasty and redraft leagues? More and more, we're seeing star wide receivers creeping into the first round when, boy, it was just a run of running backs in your first round. Sure. Yeah, what do you think? Well, if you look historically, it used to be there were a lot of good workhorse running backs, and the best of the best workhorse running backs outscore the best of the best wide receivers. statistically, like in a vacuum, the majority of times it's running back. Now there are fewer of them, which ironically makes them far more important, not less important. And I don't think that that's ever going to go away. I don't think you're going to have a flip where it goes all the way to wide receiver and you've got like one or two running backs just because of positional scarcity. It's truly a matter of the talent that is coming in. If there's a couple year period where there is, you know, I think we just.

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are coming out of a few year period where there wasn't a bunch of dominant rookie running backs being drafted. But there are, I think over the next couple years, there's an influx of some really talented running backs projected to come in the NFL. Yeah, and obviously in that scoring system, you're going to have pass catching running backs or committee backs that catch a lot of passes be extremely valuable as well. And maybe they fall to a different place in the draft. We talked a lot about the running back dead zone in the middle of the draft where you're kind of avoiding them.

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But when you go beyond that, there have been players that make going wide receiver heavy possible. Jared, did you come all the way from Ohio? I did. I missed the Detroit show. I didn't get a ticket in time, so instead I came out to 105-degree weather in Arizona. Oh, yeah. Welcome in. Well, thank you for coming out, my man. Thank you so much. Jason, do you know how far away that is? That's like more than a hundred miles. I know. Where about in the United States would that be, Jason? Detroit is going to be in Michigan. No, not Detroit, Ohio. It's not going to be in Michigan. But it's going to be near it. All right. Okay. Good enough. Good enough. All right. Mr. Moore. Next question. What do you got? Hey, what's up? I'm Braden. Uh, very friendly crowd. Well, thanks, guys.

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