Carson Wentz Reaction + Jason’s Collections, Mailbag - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/23

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Andy Mike and Jason, the fantasy footballers, back with you Tuesday, February 23rd. Got some news to talk about today. I'm going to get into the mailbag as well. Yeah, yeah. Some pretty big news. I've already thought through it quite a bit, so I'll be curious what you guys think it means for fantasy football. Speaking of the Carson Wince news, we'll talk about momentarily. You heard Jason talking at the top?

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It's a crazy sports card giver aware these days. I've been giving away some of my sports card collection on the old Twitter sphere. I got a Gary Payton card I'm giving away today. Ooh. Oh, the glove. Which fan? Well, not the Lakers, Gary Payton. Which team? You got the Sonics. It's a rookie. It's a rookie card, Mike. Oh, I missed the part where you said rookie. Sorry, I just heard Gary Payton. No, so I'm giving that bad dog away.

Oh, look at that. Saying thanks to all the Foot Clan out there giving away some of the cards I found in my, I don't know, closet, I guess. I'd love to find my cards. I have no idea where they are. And I had a friend, a friend told me about how apparently like Marvel cards and those things are now also doing very well. I'm like, dude, I had a binder.

Of like super awesome foil Marvel cards that are probably worth so much money now. I don't know where they are. They're in a dumpster. You could be a millionaire, Mike, but now look at you. Scrub. I did see some like Dwayne Johnson, like University of Miami cards selling for big money. What? Yeah. The Rock. The Rock. Why would anybody want that card? Like $15,000, Mike. Because he's a super.

a super famous super big or a male football player i mean you could look at it two ways jason you see the best part is is jason sees the wide world of collectibles all around him just blossoming into the uh riches that they've become Pokemon cards and sports cards and NBA top shot and uh this whole universe but jason has no ability to understand why people collect things

I just look I mean I get it as a store of value as an investment but like but just like a fascination about a piece of paper with a with a dude on it like I just don't care I know I mean at least if it's like if it's signed then that's cool it's like they were they were participating in this thing I have oh that makes it better but if it's just like what about a prop from a movie like if you got a prop from Ace Ventura I know you like Jim Carrey

Sure. I think it would really depend on can I wield it as a weapon? You know, it is the prop something I could kill an intruder with. Well, if you think hard enough, Jason, I'm sure you could get it done with almost any prop. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't have to be a, you know, a legitimate weapon or a katana, but can I, can I maim an intruder and save my family, then that's a valuable prop. What I enjoy is that because you've never been able to relate to this.

I want to believe you'll try, but you won't know how to have collectibles. So you'll get something and you'll put it in your room and then like some parts of the day you'll go and stare at it because you think that's what people do with their collectibles and you're just learning. Exactly. Because everything is running the cycle right now, of course. At what point are we really sad that we dumped our Pog collection? Eventually, Mike. Like are we saying three to five years or? Who knows?

Who knows? It's crazy. It's crazy. But let's talk about this news. It's part of the quick question today. Colts acquired Carson wins from the Eagles in exchange for a 2021 third round pick and conditional 2022 second round pick. Eagles will also take on the $33.8 million in dead cap penalties, which is insane. That's the largest number in league history for one player. And the overarching question everybody wants to know is what is the fantasy impact?

of Wins to the Colts. I put a poll up on my Twitter when this move happened. I was curious what people thought. Was this an upgrade on Philip Rivers from last year? Two thirds of people said yes, it was an upgrade. How do you guys weigh in here on the impact of Wins to the Colts? Were the NFL ratings that bad last year that two thirds of people who watched didn't realize that Philip Rivers was a way better quarterback than Carson Wenz?

I think it's the unknown, Mike. I think it is the... But it's not unknown. We've seen enough. No, it is. Here's the unknown. Carson Wins played at an MVP level in his past. He is still young. Philip Rivers was on the very end of his career, was not going to perform like an MVP. That is what I think the mystery upside is for people. Am I wrong, Jason? No, you're right. I mean, age has to play a factor, right? Everybody gets worse unless you're Tom Brady as...

you get older. And so, you know, Philip Rivers this coming 2021 season versus Carson Wins, I think is a very valid debate as to who would be a better real world quarterback. And then fast forward to two years, three years from now, like I think you would have to say Carson Wins should be better than Philip Rivers in three years. So, you know, that factors in. As far as fantasy goes, um,

This is good news for the Colts because Carson Wentz say whatever you want about him, whether he's completely washed as we saw last year, all of his struggles, his bad completion percentage is, you know, benching. That version of Carson Wentz is still a massive upgrade over absolutely nobody or incoming non-highly drafted rookie or, you know, that was what the options were for the Colts. Mike, if I had told you that,

James Winston was the new starting quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. Would you have voted for him as an upgrade to Philip Rivers or Philip Rivers is better? I would say an upgrade for fantasy purposes, but Philip Rivers is a better quarterback. Okay. All right. Philip Rivers, P. Rivers, still in your heart. I like James. I like James for my fantasy wide receivers, but Rivers is fine. Here's what else I think the narrative street bears out with Carson Wins and the optimism that comes with Indianapolis.

Frank Reich, the history with Carson Wins, combined with the offensive line and running game of the Colts. A lot of people want to do apologize for Carson Wins because of the offensive line, the injuries. I don't think he inherits a better wide receiver core. I think it's pretty net neutral in my mind. You know, Michael Pittman is an exciting player. He is not ready to carry an offense. They need to add somebody. Possibly.

a veteran, somebody to come and contribute some amount of tight end value is there probably, but there's a lot of question marks. I think it's good for Carson Wins, obviously, as potential destinations for those of you that have him in Dynasty, where at least he could, yeah, he can stand behind a good offensive line and try to renew his career. Yeah, and Carson Wins will be good for fantasy. He will because he still utilizes his legs. I don't know if you guys realize. So Carson Wins played.

horrifically, for whatever reason. I realized that. But did you realize that when he got benched in week 13 through the first 12 weeks of the season, he was the quarterback 11 in fantasy? Like he was, for fantasy purposes, he wasn't as horrific as I thought you had one who always told me that if you're the QB 11, you're actually bad then. I'm saying that's not necessarily like your, yes, absolutely. It's not the home run best thing ever. But it's also, it doesn't.

It doesn't match up with a player who was benched because of his horrific play still for fantasy because he was mobile and can score rushing touchdowns, things like that. It's one of those situations where play on the NFL field doesn't match what the play in fantasy football gives you. And the pass catchers, just to highlight this, you know, T.Y. Hilton, unrestricted free agent. Zach Pascal, restricted free agent.

Trey Burton unrestricted. Mowley Cox restricted. Oh, you've got to get him back. Jack Doyle probably cut. So when you look out at the, it's almost like Philadelphia for Carson Wins, where it's like, Travis Fulgum and, you know, is Deshaun? I don't know if T.Y Hilton comes back for a year or something like that. We need to see who he's throwing the ball to, but.

It's interesting news. And I know we've talked about Jalen Hertz and we will continue to in the offseason, but obviously he's lined up to be the starter in Philadelphia as well. So if you were someone that say had both those guys on a dynasty team, you at least have both those guys now as NFL starters for the upcoming season, most likely.

I mean, talk about a great thing to happen if someone out there to me has these two on their dynasty roster and now they both have value. I look at this trade as, you know, we talked about this on the footcast and you can go listen to more of the Jalen Hertz talk. But this, like I see this trade. Is that your new podcast, the Jalen Hertz hour? Yes, I see this as the Jalen Hertz trade, not the Carson Wins trade.

Like this is much more important, I think, for fantasy for Jalen Hertz. All right. I was wondering when it would show up. Thanks, Al Borland. Let's get into some more news. News and notes from around the league. All right. Just a couple of pieces of news to talk about. Eagles have released Deshawn Jackson. I didn't go very well. This was inevitable.

Yeah, he played what, eight games after Philadelphia traded for him. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, injured repeatedly. Still explosive. And in fact, like, everything you thought about him, whether you were bullish or bearish was right. Right? I mean, isn't that kind of true for Deshaun Jackson? Can anybody really say I was wrong about him?