Fantasy Football - Underrated or Overrated + THE MEGALASHOW RETURNS! - Podcast for 6/16

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers, Tuesday, June 16th. Welcome in to the show. Big show today. Underrated and overrated. Big day.

The big day. The big show. The big announcement. Jason wants me to get right into it. He doesn't want me to delay. This is so important. Announcements. Hold on. Go at the top of the show. Don't I have a button for announcements? Announcing! The trumpeters have arrived, and we teased it. We said there'd be a big announcement on Tuesday, so we'll get right into it. It's back. The Megalist Show. A live event. Yeah. The Fantasy Footballers Live. It is back. Friday, August 28th. The Van Buren in Phoenix, Arizona, presented by SiriusXM and sponsored by GMC and PetSmart. The Megalist Show is back.

It is your opportunity out there, Foot Clan, to come to the event of the offseason as we get ready for the kickoff to the 2026 NFL season. And those watching on YouTube, you can get some. Oh, man. Look at that B-roll. I believe this was the last. That's not B-roll. That's A-roll. Oh, nice. Nice, Mike. The Megalist Show event we did was in Los Angeles. This year, it's in Phoenix, Arizona at the Van Buren. It's our only live show for this year. It's in our home city, state area. Everyone needs to come. Everyone needs to be there. We want you there.

I mean, and you can see, again, if you're on YouTube, you can see some of the highlights from the last time we did a Megalist Show. It is a live taping of the podcast. So you will be a part of a live recording of the show. Live taping. This guy. Yeah. It is. Oh, we're putting it on the film. We're going to get the reels out. The tape. You know, talk about your VHS and your beta tapes. People don't say, Al, you don't say that anymore? It's going to be a live recording of the podcast. Thank you, Al. It's not that people say it.

Just people over the age of. I will get you a tape of the event. There are a lot of big special things at that show, at the live event. We want people there. This is a bigger venue for us. We've done shows in Phoenix in the past. We are doing the Van Buren. We're doing the Van Buren. It's a beautiful venue. Awesome venue. I was just there. Where are you guys? Last night? Two nights ago. Yeah. For a show? Or were you scoping? No, I was at a show. Figure it out. Okay. I was getting down with the RX Bandits.

So listen, I didn't say the URL. Enough. If you want to go to the show, there will be limited tickets available. Go to ballerslive.com. Again, the show date is Friday, August 28th. It's at the Van Buren in Phoenix, Arizona. There will be limited tickets. You can grab them right now. Like I said, we've done this a couple of times in Los Angeles. We're doing it in our hometown here. The Fantasy Footballers Live, the Megalist Show itself. Travel out here. They're great golf courses in Arizona, people. Oh, gosh. This is true. Look, the Fantasy Footballers are going to be there. And if you're not familiar with the Van Buren, literally right next to us, right next to the building, there's Ziggy's Pizza, which is elite New York style.

And then right next to that, there is a pinball bar. Oh, I've heard about that. Oh, I was just there, too, brother. Yeah, but that's right up your alley. Dude. We'll be there. It's going to be awesome. August 28th. Shout out to SiriusXM, GMC, and PetSmart for helping us get this done. BallersLive.com. You can check that out. Let's jump into some news. News and notes from around the league. The Broncos and head coach Sean Payton agreed to terms on a five-year extension going through 2030. Sean Payton staying in Denver. Makes sense. Broncos head coach Sean Payton said Bo Nix will be a full go at training camp.

But the question on Bo Nix is, is he overrated or underrated? Because we're going to answer that one on today's show. Stay tuned. Oh, no, that's on today's show? Yes, sir. Uh-oh. Yeah, we have a really fun segment today because we have to draw a line in the sand on all these questions. And unfortunately, our staff is doing a good job in making the questions very, very hard for today's underrated and overrated. I can tell you some of my answers, all of my answers. The Panthers will be made immediately when the question is asked. You have not previewed? I have briefly previewed, but I was really back and forth on some of them.

The Panthers agreed to terms with Jalen Coker, three-year, $35 million extension. This is a former undrafted free agent. This is wild. Every time I've watched Jalen Coker play football, I've been impressed. I just took him recently in one of our mock drafts, kind of just like, hey, don't forget that we got Jalen Coker over there. It's a pretty big commitment. It is. This deal is good for you, man. Good for you for getting that money. And he really is. He is a player that I don't think we've seen the best of Jalen Coker just yet. I hope not. What's that?

I said, I hope not. Well, yes. As the Panthers hope as well, because he's only played two years, 11 games in each of the two years. His rookie year was 478. 478 yards. That's his high. He only started three games last year and four the year before? The Panthers have seen enough of Jalen Coker, and hopefully that means they've seen enough Xavier Leggett. Well, and they drafted Brazil, right? Yes. In the wildcard playoff game against the Rams, 12 targets for Coker, 9 for 134-1. Pretty impressive. What else do we have? Ja'Cory Kraski-Meritt sitting out of OTAs due to a soft tissue issue.

Yeah. What's the headline there? Katron Allen? I've seen some. I think hype train on that. Like, Rashad White is going to end up as of just a mega value. Because even, you know, we have the. Well, hold on. Let me hit the button for it, please. We've got Bill Kraski-Meritt over there. And, you know, at least what I'm reading through, you're trying to. All these coaches are saying a lot of things these days. And, like, he's still developing. And they had a lot of glowing things to say about Rashad White. So. Who's still developing? Bill. As in, like, we. Not Rashad White.

No. As in. That's what I thought you were saying. Oh, no, no. I'm saying. He's developed. I'm saying. They're looking at Bill Kraski-Meritt and saying that we got to improve on these things. Gotcha. Where, meanwhile, then Rashad White comes in. Again, maybe not a superstar, but he can do everything. And he might end up being the guy. He's perfect for certain types of builds this year. I mean, right now he's going on the 13th round. He's perfect for every build. He'll be a double-digit round guy because nobody wants him. Wouldn't it be similar to last year, the way we were viewing, like, Eckler at this point

in time? Yes. I mean, Eckler was not at his prime, but we all knew he's versatile, knows how to do it. A veteran. Pass catcher. Yeah. So, Cowboys wide receiver George Pickens did report to mandatory minicamp after sitting out the OTAs. Said he's going to get his physical. He's there, so he does not get fined. Yeah, a lot of guys are doing that right now. Yeah. Show up. Don't get fined. Playing on the franchise tag. So, we have a month. I believe July 15th. Training camp? Kyle can check that. No, the long-term extension deadline for franchise tag players. I do want to read this quote because Andy Reid said if he was asked if Rashi Rice will be

ready for the start of training camp. His quote was, I think he will be. He gets out of jail next week. We'll see where he goes. He'll be back up here and working. It's always good when your players are out of jail. That's really important for getting on the field. Yeah. So, I don't think we have any other news. I mean, we got the big announcement out of the way. We got the news out of the way. You guys want to get into the main segment? BallersLive.com. Oh, yeah. Do that as well. Underrated or overrated? Okay. Various topics. Not just players.

There will be players mixed in. There will be draft strategies mixed in. We're going to do a little underrated, overrated. We did it last year. Whether you're watching or listening, we'll let you know. We don't know what's going on, but we're going to bring up a couple of topics. And we'll decide what we truly believe about these ones, at least in the moment here. Man, this first one is so hard. So, why don't you introduce the first one, Jason? So, the first one that we're going to decide whether, and they're not all players, but this first one is. It's Lad McConkie.

Right now, we've got to decide if we think going into 2026 he is being overrated or underrated. And it could go either way. I mean, right now, where he's being rated is... Are you looking for his ADP? Yeah. He's back of the fourth. He's at the 4-5 turn. Wide receiver 20. This is really hard because... Well, don't do your analysis yet. You've got to give your thumb first. Do we... Yeah. We give that first. I think you go 1, 2, 3, and then we show it, and then you give your reasoning. My gosh. Hold on. Yeah, it's... Lad McConkie. How do you spell that, Mike?

You give him more time. L-A-D-D. Okay. All right. I think I'm going to go with this one. All right. Here we go. You know what you've got to do, man. All right. 3, 2, 1. Dang it. Ooh, Andy. Dang it. Andy. So, just for the listening audience, Mike went overrated. Jason went overrated. I threw up the underrated. I'm just going to lean into my villain arc right now. Well, that has to hurt, Jason. It hurts so much because... And Mike... Yeah, it hurts me as well. You want to know what the difference was to me? The presence of Keenan Allen on that roster right now?

Yes. I... Because I think it's a pendulum swing, right? Like, I think we all would have said before the draft, we would have held up underrated. Before... Or, sorry, before the first season. His rookie season. Yes. I think we liked Ladd McCong. Oh, yeah. Sure. For sure. Then I think after the first season, we knew that he was going to have to perform at a really high level relative to draft cost. Maybe we would have gone overrated at that point. But I guess I think he's 24 years old, and if there's no Keenan Allen, I think maybe you could see him return to somewhere much closer to the wide receiver 12 finish from 2024

than the wide receiver 28 finish of last year. Let me just explain. The difference between a year we were thrilled with and a year we were unhappy with is 12.5 points per game as a rookie and 9.2 points per game as a sophomore. All the major numbers went down. I think we all understood he was a huge bust in the draft. But I like Mike McDaniel. I like no Keenan Allen there, and then I'll change it to overrated if he's back. But he's in select companies still. Over the last decade, he's one of seven wide receivers with 200 targets, 1,900 receiving

yards, and 13 touchdowns in the first two years. There's only been seven guys that have done that. I mean, this is a soft underrated. Yeah. As a prospect, I think he is. What did you say he was being drafted? I'm sorry. Wide receiver 20. The fourth. Like the 4-5 turn. Oh my gosh, that's right between 12 and 28. Right in the middle. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Like exactly the middle. Here's the issue. I think as a prospect, as a wide receiver, I think he's underrated. I wish he was more vocal and a squeaky wheel. I mean, it's been talked about like in the room.

He's a quiet guy. He is not a vocal leader. He's not a diva. I need this guy to get some diva in him and demand the ball and say, I want it. Because if he did that, he would get open. He would get the ball. You do well. My biggest issue is simply this. The two wide receiver sets are going to be massively important on the Chargers this year. This is a Mike McDaniel system that's going to come in. They brought in Najoku. They have Gadsden. They use a fullback. Their personnel groupings with two wide receivers are going to go way up.

And for the wide receivers on the field, that's a good thing. So, if Ladd is out there in all two wide receiver sets, whole baby, Andy will be right. He is being underrated right now as a wide receiver 20. He is awesome. However, only... Meaning 20 is such a smart spot for people to draft him. And only 10% of his routes last year came with two or fewer wide receivers on the field. So, hopefully, this is a Keenan Allen gone situation. This is why I love Quentin Johnston. Because it sounds so weird to say he's the only guy that we know for sure is out there in two wide receiver sets.

Adding Najoku was a surefire guarantee we're going to get a lot of two wide receiver sets. Najoku and Gadsden will be out there and we'll get two wide. It's hard for me to look at... Like, Mike McDaniel, he had some guys you wanted to bring into the offense, right? And I'll let you jump in, Mike, with your thoughts. But he had some guys you wanted to bring in, right? You brought in the running back to play behind... Keaton Mitchell. He had certain players and a fullback. Alec Ingle. It's just... It would be shocking to me if Mike McDaniel is like...

Thompson, right? He was the... Brennan Thompson was the wide receiver. Yes. Apparently he was demanding he wanted that speed. When you look at the roster as it stands now with no Keaton Allen, it's hard for me to say Mike McDaniel, as much as we think of him on the offensive side of the ball, is going to do a lot to keep Ladd McConkie off the field and not a part of the offense. But Mike, you said overrated as well. Yeah, I don't like the draft price. It's... The... It's such a strong assumption of draft capital that Ladd McConkie for sure is the guy.

And he... He... My belief of the player, it should be him. But the fact that we had last year... Like, Keaton Allen is... I mean, this is a pro's pro. But you're a second-round rookie who just put up 1,150 yards, performs in the playoffs, and then they're just like, yeah. But Keaton Allen, you know? We got... Keaton Allen in his 30s. We're going to play him over you. That is... I will say this. It's very weird. Keaton Allen targets per route run was significantly better than Ladd. Keaton Allen yards per route run last year was also significantly better. Keaton Allen's a goat.

But it's like, man, if you can't beat out a 30-year-old Keaton Allen, that's just... The draft... I wanted to look it up. The draft price for Ladd McConkie, do you remember where it was last year? Because I have it in front of me. Oh, yeah. It was top 15 wide receiver. The draft community was hot for Ladd. Like wide receiver 12? Every platform, he was 11. Yeah. He was 11. I mean, that was around the age of the round. Because he was a rookie wide receiver who had just put up over 1,100 yards. Yeah. I do agree with you guys.

There's a lot of risk there. This is one of those training camp situations we need to watch closely. Because he's not worth the 20th spot if he's not out there and too wide. He's just not. It's just like ADP-wise, I know you guys aren't in on as Zay as much as I am. But right after Ladd is Zay and Jamison Williams and Devontae Smith, who... I wonder if his ADP ends up jumping. Did you hear the latest rumor of that team? Wait, is it Dontavian Wicks related? No, it's Tyree Kill related. Oh! I had not. I had seen some rumors about like, is that the place that Tyree Kill ends up landing?

They go, they trade AJ Brown, they get a lot of draft capital. They draft Makai Lemon and Stowers. But maybe they feel like they need to... Interesting. You know, take a little bit off of Devontae Smith. I think Smith's ADP is going to go up. But no, the last thing I was reading for Beat Reporters was saying how with Lemon, because Lemon is banged up, like Wicks was clearly the current plan to replace AJ Brown. Is he catching the ball? Look, probably. I don't know. Yeah, it's practice. So Smith and then Abuka and then Terry McLaurin. And to finalize the point of where Lad's going is ADP.

It's just, it's really tough when... I think that's a compelling point because I think other than Jamison there, you could make the argument that like, Jamison's not out there as much as Lad. It's like, even if they're in... Okay. Lad's the guy. Lad's in too wide. It's huge in him. What's the percentage chance that Lad outscores? Huge. Very high. I don't know about that. I don't know. To me. I would say it's more, but how high? Like, fourth round versus free? Huge could do it with touchdowns. He could have 22 catches. Everything is ADP for me, for Lad and my...

Right now, it does seem like he is rated. Like, he is perfectly rated. Yeah, the community has done a perfect job of... Like, I think he will be... I think he will be right around 20, frankly. So you're not getting a deal. We'll take a break and we'll get into some more. All right. We did our first underrated, overrated. The second one is home road splits. So how much do you care about home road splits for a player? Home road splits, underrated or overrated? Okay. You got your... I've got mine. All right. I've got mine. Three, two, one. All right.