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Week 3 Waivers & QB Streamers, Josh Gordon Traded!

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Oh, let's do a show about waivers. Waivers! How's everybody doing today? Great. Oh, I'm doing fantastic. Speaking of waivers, Jason waived his right to victory. Oh, my goodness. Last night. Tilt watch. Ah, it's not going great. My, uh...

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My awesome core of David Johnson, Dalvin Cook, and Devanta Freeman is crumbling. Oh. And I'm still going to be fine. The zero arbears are laughing in your face right now. Oh, come on. Michael Thomas, Keenan Allen. That's fair point. I'm fine. Coming for the rest of the list. Unfortunately for Jason, the Russell Wilson ultimate garbage time touchdown to Big Montana, Will Disley. Oh, it did not win Jason the week.

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I put up a thread on Twitter where people were jumping in sharing their stories of how they snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. With the garbage time touchdown? Yes. Oh, no doubt. I knew that was a problem for people. I mean, ridiculous. Yes. Disley came through. If you started Disney, like if you were the reactionary signer of Disney and started images. You got bailed out. You got bail. You got lucky. You know, I'll say this. We like to make fun.

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of Montana Strong. But he's pretty good. Dude, he got wide open. He's got some speed. He's, because he's big Montana. Yeah. His rest, the moose was loose. Wow. I've been telling you guys, though, and I'm sticking to my guns on this. Okay. When Ed Dixon gets back, he's going to be a very fantasy relevant titan. He is going to take, I mean, Will Disley is not taking the spot from the long term.

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Tens of millions of dollar guaranteed contract. When Ed Dixon comes back, it's the Baltimore Ravens. It's going to be Vinette and Dixon. It's not going to be just one of them. I agree with you. I agree with you. All right. Huge jam-packed show today. Not only do we have the full waiver breakdown for week three, but we've got quarterback streamers on the show today.

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And we'll talk about last night's game. I have a couple of announcements, then a quick question because there was some big news yesterday. First of all, we have a Reddit AMA. Woo! Our first one ever. Yes, the Reddit AMA coming Wednesday, September 19th. That's tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yeah, that's tomorrow. At 3 Eastern. Correct. Anything else they need to know about that, Mike? It will be our first AMA on Reddit. So shout out to my Redditors. Also be gentle.

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Reddit's an intimidating place for us, old fellas. Ask me anything. So, I mean... Get on there. Ask questions. We'll answer as many as we can. Whatever you want. Follow us on YouTube. I thought it was all my apples. No. Nope. Not all my apples. I've made a mistake. Nope. YouTube.com slash the Fantasy Footballers. Twitter at the FFBallers. The website's the Fantasy Footballers.com. Working on a week three rankings tomorrow at noon is when they come out.

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And that's when you can access the Start Sit Tool. And you'll get a head start on week three. Just, you know, I took a little glance at my 2-0 League of Record team. Oh, congratulations. Thanks. How's yours doing? 2-0. Okay. I just had to laugh, though, because I'm looking at my lineup for this week. And it's very likely that the names Lindsay Kittle and Gulladay are in there. Fantasy football. This is why you stick.

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with the show all year long. As things change week after week, Jason will have to, you know, he'll have to work through some of the injuries on his roster and make decisions that will inform and help you as a listener. Absolutely. No different than every fantasy player out there. I mean, you don't win the championship at your draft. You win it based on waiver wire, start, sit decisions, trades, those things. So we'll guide you through it. All right. I need your fantasy reactions.

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because our quick question is going to be Josh Gordon related. Josh Gordon traded to the New England Patriots. Stop helping the Patriots. Patriots are sitting Cleveland. They don't need your help, NFL. Fifth round pick. Ridiculous. Here, here's Josh Gordon for free. Try it out. See if it works. Free trial, seven day. Yeah, this is a free year trial. A fifth round pick. Here's what I want to know. Come on. I know that all the other teams in the NFL

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They can't like the Patriots. They have to, right? They dislike the Patriots. So how much better was this offer than the other offers? I just don't like, would you send him to the Patriots for a fifth versus like to the Jets for a sixth? Is that? That pick is probably pretty close. Right. I mean, a Patriots fifth and the Jets sixth is probably within.

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Eight to ten picks. Corey Coleman was released in a corresponding move. Oh, how bad? How much does Cory Coleman dislike Josh Gordon? He's just kicking him off all sorts of teams. So how do fantasy owners think about this? I mean, yesterday I said, I traded Josh Gordon last week for an injured Doug Baldwin, who should return soon, uh, ish, soonish. And did I make a mistake now?

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I know my fantasy take on this, obviously going to the Patriots, it elicits hope of Randy Moss. This is clearly the best physical athletic wide receiver that he's had since Randy Moss. And so the upside is enormous, is tremendous. And the fact that the Browns basically traded him for nothing.

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says that the cosmos will come together to make sure he has a good season. All that being said, if I am a Josh Gordon owner right now, or it's a waiver day, look, a lot of people probably dropped Josh Gordon when he was cut, thinking it's suspension-related his career's over. So scour your waivers. Make sure you can grab him if you can. I'm looking to trade Josh Gordon for the hype price. Because if you can trade him as a wide receiver won,

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then worst case scenario, if you get that value, you still got something back. And if he pops, maybe you'll be sad that you missed him. But if you made a good trade, you got value out of that. But it has not materialized yet. He does not know the playbook. He hasn't been there yet. And with Josh Gordon, there is inherent risk that at any moment in time, a misstep.

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things could go wrong. And so to me, if I could package, like here's, I was driving in, I was thinking about, like, what would be a fair trade that maybe you could, maybe you could pull off and would you do it? And so for me, the one guy that kept coming to mind was David Johnson. If you could pair Josh Gordon with something and- You're buying David Johnson right now. Yes, for Josh, are you telling me, I mean, who would you rather have?

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Josh Gordon, his tremendous upside. But it has to be a package. There's no way. Right. I take that back, because I'm sure there's going to be some leagues where a one-for-one could get done. But in the majority of leagues, Josh Gordon for David Johnson's not going to happen. So you're going to have to send Josh Gordon and a starting running back to buy David Johnson. Yeah, but you're willing to do that. I'm willing to do that because I don't think you have to send a star running back. I don't think you have to send. You don't have to send a superstar, but you're going to have to send a starter. Marshaun Lynch.

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Yeah, exactly. And I would do that too. And look, here's how I read the Gordon situation. There's, for Gordon to be successful in the NFL and for fantasy, he has to be committed both to staying clean and to learning a very complicated system in New England. He has to be committed to learning it. Yes, you can just have him run a nine route. If he just runs nine routes, I don't think he's going to have the fantasy relevance that you need. Tom Brady, you know.

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Say what you will. I don't know if nine-round deep balls all day long. Here's the impact to me. I would be just a quick follow-up. I'm very interested to know what does Randy Moss's route tree? Route tree look like and his time. I know, but he's not Randy Moss. Of course, because nobody is Randy Moss. But here's the impact. It impacts Tom Brady for fantasy in a positive way. And more than anything else, in my opinion.

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It actually impacts Rob Gronkowski the most. You have a secondary field stretching, six-foot-four monster to help. Look, he was double-teamed. Gronk was double-teamed. The entirety of the Jacksonville game. You have to have somebody else that the team has to worry about. That helps Gronk. And I think you're going to be banking on a big play from Gordon for a while.

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The impact it has on Gronk and raising his baseline is big. So that's my takeaway. And there was a report. We don't know how valid it is, but there was reports on Josh Gordon's hamstring. The original reason that Josh Gordon was going to miss this past weekend that it's good enough to play this weekend. So we could see Josh Gordon suit up as a Patriot as early as this weekend. I am very interested.

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to see what Gordon does. So for what we're talking about waivers, Jason, and I know you're talking about trading him away, get the value right now because nothing has actually happened. I'm okay with that. And I want to make sure I'm not, you know, being misunderstood. Only if you can trade him as that wide receiver one value. Trade him as a star wide receiver. Because I, I, this is not me saying, yes, I want him. This is not me saying Gordon is not going to be valuable, trade him because he's going to bust. I think he's going to have a solid fantasy season.

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There's a lot of risk. And if you can capitalize, then yes. So you have the number one waiver priority in your league. Do you burn it for Josh Gordon? I do. Okay. So then Fab wise, you're talking 30. You're talking in the 30%? Yes. Breaking news. Josh Gordon is suspended. No, stop. Stop. Interesting news. Pittsburgh Post Gazette reporting right now. Levi on Bell? No. Levi on Bell? No. Come back to me. Levi on Bell.

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Antonio Brown did not report for meetings and film review on Monday. He's just mad. Blowing off some steam? Yeah. He'll, he's fine. He's Antonio Brown. It's kind of crazy. He can skip the whole week. Maybe he's like, just take it off. I remember hearing some things like that about Levian Bell. Maybe Levian Bell gave him a call and said, dude, check this out. Do what I'm doing. It's pretty nice. Wow. That is. Weird news. I don't know anything else. We'll follow up later in the show. Disconcerning. Monday night football.

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