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Fantasy Football 2017 - Standard Mock Draft + Rising Stars

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statistically speaking, his touchdown opportunities could actually fall from last year. Don't say that. I know. I know. That sounds crazy. But he was a beneficiary of pass interference calls in the end zone that put him on the one yard line. That's where a couple of his touchdowns came from. So, you know, there is, there is worry. I'm not, you know, completely all glitz and glam with Lamar Miller. But the, the volume is there for a third round standard league. He would be my pick. I have him as a RB1, so he would be my go-to.

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All right, let's go ahead and do that then. Let's grab Lamar Miller, pair him with Devonza Freeman in our backfield. Jordan Nelson is our wide receiver. And Alton, Jeffrey, and Carlos Hyde went right after us at the turn here. Now we're in the fourth round. So that takes that decision off the board in terms of maybe grabbing Hyde. Do you take a wide receiver here with, you know, Terrell Pryor, Alan Robinson, DeAndre Hopkins as options here?

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Look, this is not just because he was my Raising Kane's Rising Star. He is in standard. In standard leagues, he's our consensus 12 ranked wide receiver. What? Yeah, I mean, a lot of people. What has happened to our rankings? A lot of people fall. Apparently we are caught up in. Yeah, I mean, we are. But you look at, you know, DeAndre Hopkins has the name you know. I like how you are outlandishly reacting to yourself. Yes. Well, I'm going to verify where I have him.

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So, you know, a guy like DeAndre Hopkins usually is going to go over Terrell Pryor. But in a full PPR, in a full PPR league, you know, those guys with those, you know, big names because they're their volume, they don't get extra points for that. So I want the touchdown guy, the six foot five. Is there any shot that there's no shot that prior is going to drop? No, there's zero percent.

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You're at the edge. You have to take the player that you want. You don't get to play the. I mean, Crabtree to me is equally good in a standard. Crabtree and Terrell Pryor, those are guys I would rather have over the DeAndre Hopkins and Keenan Allen's and Golden Tate's. Because Golden Tate fits type players, those will be later. Kelsey Olson and Reid on the board. And then those listening might wonder, are we thinking Breeze Wilson Luck? Nope.

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No, we're not. We'll take the quarterback late. I wanted to bring up Kelsey here because he's not in consideration for me. This is the standard league. Travis Kelsey has not proven himself yet to be a touchdown guy. Could he be? Certainly. Do you want to take to Roll prior? It's between Pryor and Crabtree for me. My rankings have Crabtree here, but I mean, not completely factored into that projection is the top ceiling if Pryor hits it.

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So I'm good either way. If it was my pick, I probably would take Pryor just because I play aggressively. So I would be chasing that ceiling. All right. Pretty interesting. We took Pryor. So we have Freeman, Miller, Nelson, and Pryor. Some highlights from the fourth round, guys. Mixing and Robinson followed our pick of Pryor. Let's see here. Christian McCaffrey off the board. Tyreek Hill off the board.

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A lot of buzz about Tyreek Hill lately and just potential volume there in Kansas City. Kelsey did go at the end of the fourth. Legerra Blunt, off the board, third pick of the fifth round. Oh, man. That's a pretty good pick. Yeah, I think that's still a bit too early, but it could have made sense with all the running backs that were being drafted. Let me tell you who he went off the board ahead of. Eddie Lacey, Frank Gore, Paul Perkins, smashed Jackson himself. Oh, I just saw on Reddit, by the way. Somebody, there was a.

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smash jackson thread on reddit because somebody was i guess they were already doing their draft and uh they drafted smash jackson oh that's right somebody else in their league looked up across the across the board and uh he said oh you listen to somebody else knew who smash jackson was so uh you get a draft smash jackson yeah he drafted smash jackson that's good stuff

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Keenan Allen, the pick right before us here. And we are back on the board, Martavis Bryant, actually, the pick right before us at 510. Here we are now in a position to pick for depth and for flex. Andrew Luck still on the board at the back of the fifth, certainly a result of recent news. Now, I want to go on record. I do not think, and I know that I have reason to think this.

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But I don't think Andrew Luck has any chance of starting the year on the PUP. I think that would be outlandish. We've talked about this too. Look, they need to have him at a moment's notice. Their season could be over in six weeks without Andrew Luck. So even if he's not ready for week one, they're probably not going to put him on the pup because that means he can't play until week seven. I completely agree with it. Exactly. But he could still miss weeks.

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He could still miss weeks, of course. Yeah, that's what Jason just said that you are saying twice. I'm just echoing it that he could still miss weeks. We're not saying he's a lot. Let me continue my on record to say I don't think I'll miss any time. Okay. And that's what I'm hearing too for the buzz out of Indianapolis is that luck will be ready for week one, but you're probably not going to see him before that. If we don't take a quarterback right here at the end of the fifth round or the beginning of the sixth,

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We're going to be waiting, obviously, quite a while. It'll be into seventh. It's a 7-8 turn. You're fine with that with what you see on the board at quarterback luck, Ryan Cousins, Marietta, Winston Carr. Yeah, luck would be the only temptation. I think it's still not good enough value to take luck here. And so when we don't take him, we're probably, like usual, going to wait until the double-digit rounds for a quarterback. What about a tight end that offers you red zone power like Grammer Eifert? I am.

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I for it maybe, but with Jordan Reed falling to us, I'm having the prior regrets. If we had taken Crabtree there, this would have been an easy Jordan Reed selection for me. I mean, isn't that something worth touching on for just a second? I know we're trying to get through this draft. No, it's fine. But you just highlighted this thing that comes up in fantasy football, this decision-making process. We took prior because we thought he was the best player on the board, even over Crabtree.

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as a consensus. And yet you take the best player on the board and the best player on the board to you right now is Jordan Reed, but you don't want to take them because you don't want to stack the Redskin dependency here. And not that it's a terrible thing to do. I mean, you know that the offense in Washington is high power. There's enough to sustain multiple players that just is do you want to invest your fourth and your fifth pick to be on the same team? Only one Redskin can score per pass. Right.

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There's, well, two quarterback and. I throw TP could throw some touchdowns to himself. Outstanding. You know, there's a couple groupings that I find this with this year. So there's been several times where there's great value on Larry Fitzgerald. But then late in the draft, the guy that stands out like a sore thumb is John Brown, you know, clearly above. A sore leg. Yeah. Oh.

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Clearly above others, and I have that regret of taking fits. So it's something to pay attention to while you mock. What are those players that maybe, you know, you don't want to put yourself in that position? Eddie Lacey, Frank Gore, Tevin, Coleman, Paul Perkins, AP, Adrian Peterson on the board. Could be a standard league home run, depending on your take. Doug Martin on the board. You also have a lot of PPR guys sitting there on wide receiver, Jarvis Landry, Julian Edelman, Jameson, Crowder, Larry Fitzgerald, Stefan Diggs.

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They're there for a reason, even Emmanuel Sanders. I'm not loving the wide receiver options, and I always love running back depth. So I think it's between, you know, I would not be opposed to Eifert here, and I would not be opposed to a running back. I'm going to hand off this pick since we've been discussing it so long. I'm going to give it to Jason. He can roster construct on our behalf. Sweet. Make the pick for us, Jason.

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He's enthused about this one. No, yeah. Oh, fine. I'll make the pair. This is a situation where when you're at the turn, the player to me that stands out is the best available running back, which is the position I'd be looking at here is Frank Gore. But it's like, oh, you know. Do you play the game to get back? When you're at the turn, when you are so far away, you don't usually get that guy to come back. So.

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I would take Frank Gore here. That would be my pick. However, oh, hold. I want to prove the point that he won't make it back to us at the next pick. Okay. So you mean at the next pick in three picks from now? No, no, no, no. After our turn. After the, after the turn. Because sometimes you play this, uh, ADP game. So you're, so you're giving advice that we don't draft him to prove that we should have drafted him. Hey, wild card.

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So who are you taking? Make the pick. I'm going to pick. If that's the case, I am going. Frank Gore. I'll go. Frank Gore. What world am I living in? There you go. Frank Gore has been drafted. Jordan Reed and Eddie Lacey. But he would not have made it back. See, Jordan Reed is the one that didn't make it back to us. Yeah. At this point, I would love, look, you're in the sixth round in a standard league. If I for it's healthy, which is a big if.

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But if he's healthy, he is an absolute red zone monster. That would be my pick right here. I would take Tyler Eifford. If you want to talk about Jimmy Graham, I'm okay with that too. I'd rather have Eifert. Yeah, I would go Graham over Eifer, but, you know, in a... You'd be quiet, Frank Gore. In a straight standard. Well, you don't get to make this next pick. Sure. I'm still not sure what happened with Frank Gore. We took Tyler Eifford. Our team right now, Devante Freeman, Lamar Miller, Jordy Nelson, Terrell Pryor.

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Tyler Ifer and Frank Gore coming around to the end of the seventh round. The tight-in run happened. Oh, we started it? Yeah, we started it. We took Ifer and it was good because Rudolph, Walker, Bennett, Henry, Howard, and obviously Jimmy Graham have all gone. Wow. That's the way to start a run. So sometimes you have to take, look, that's another situation that you have to pay attention to when you're at the turn.

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is do you want to be on the back end? You okay? Yeah. Do you want to be on the back end of a run or the front end? I think we were fortunate because basically if that run had happened, we probably don't take it. When you're on the turn, you need to start the run. That's right. So back of the seventh round, we need to make a couple picks. There's one that just jumps off the board to me that I would take.

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Hands down, no questions asked. And that's Adrian Peterson. He's still on the board here. Oh, yeah. At the back of the seventh round. And I think, unless you want to talk to me about Doug Martin, who, by the way, all the first team reps in practice. How many first team reps is he taking those first three weeks? Zero. Yeah. But you have a luxury of a potential top 12 guy. All right. We'll stick with. You're on board for AP, so I'm not going to argue with you. I'm finally accepting Adrian Peterson. You're like, hold on, hold on. I got to talk you to Doug Martin. All right.

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We took Adrian Peterson. When you're in the middle of the draft, the older running backs always have good value. That's why we end up with the Frank Gore's and the Adrian Peterson's. We got Peterson in the usual spot where you would draft Frank Gore right around the back of the seventh. Dak, Prescott, and Fitzgerald went off the board in between our seventh round pick and this early eighth round pick. Are you looking at any quarterbacks here, Mike? Very unlikely. Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Dalton, all still on the board. You talk about.

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making sure you're at the front of a run. Is there a quarterback run that could happen right now that would make you regret not taking a quarterback here? Because if there's not, we shouldn't take one. I don't think there is. I'm looking back through the past couple rounds, and there's been five, five or six selected in the last, you know, 20 picks. So I don't think that a run is about to have. It seems like it's important to solidify our wide receivers. I was going to say I would be looking to double up our wide receivers here. Plenty of great.

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standard league wide receivers on the board. Can't double them up. We just took AP. That's a really good point. You can't take two. So you have to get one. Standard League, Dante Moncrief, Calvin Benjamin. Those two guys are sticking out there. Say, do you want to pay that college parking? I would rather have Moncrief than Benjamin. I think if one of those guys is actually talented, the other is just the number one target and he's really big. Brandon Marshall on the board here.

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There's a lot of wide receivers who are not currently injured like Dante Moncrief is. Pierre Garcin. Decker Mackle. Devante Parker, who we talked a lot about with Cutler, his potential. But he could easily slip around. Yes, a lot, a lot of wide receivers here. We just have to take whoever we think is the highest upside, I think. Jameson Crowder, Stefan Diggs. Mike, who do you take here? I'm not going to take Crowder because I'm not buying into his touchdowns. Plus, we already have prior. I passed on Reed.

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to not double up on Washington. So I'm not going to go prior crowd or stack. It would be, I'm leaning between Moncrief and Brandon Marshall. And I'm going to take the chance on Moncrief again. I'm going to give him another year. Because I think that, I think he's, I'm with Jason. I think he's an excellent wide receiver. Last year was derailed by injury. Very interesting. We took Moncrief. He joins the roster and no quarterbacks.

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