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Regress or Impress turns second-half breakouts into a debate, with Horse Talk adding an intentionally strange physical metaphor to the scouting room.
to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Thursday, March 26th. Welcome in to the fantasy footballers podcast, Jason Moore. Mike Wright. I'm Andy Holloway. The birthday. Oh! According to the show doc, it is my 68th birthday day. And the calendar. Oh, the 68? It says 68th birthday. Yeah, in the show. Honestly, Andy, I didn't think you were looking very good. For 68? For 68, I think I'm doing it all right. Thank you. I think you're the got to be top thousand of 68 year olds as far as look. Physical appearance. So how old was he then, Jason? How old was he prior to this? Yeah.
Oh, ah, son of my God. Hey, no. Hey. Yes. Hey, all right. I've grown up. Okay. Okay. Look, us, our generation. Our generation. Did we do it? We already, we already killed it. I mean, we did we did such. We got you. You swift work with the six seven. Oh, it was not swift. That thing was intense. That was intense. I mean. It quickly went from like, oh, the biggest thing and all the youths. And then all us old men came in and we're like, we'll show you how stupid this is. And you started doing it. Yeah. Like crazy. And now it's over. It's over. If you have not seen, there is a clip going around of Ryan Gosling doing some publicity for hashtag non-sponsor, Project Hail Mary. Awesome.
it's a great movie uh but there's a just a clip of him with an interviewer and it's all just the youth slang but in a real serious delivery if you've not seen that it's pretty funny it is delightful yeah yeah uh well we're happy to have you with us today regress or impress is the main topic on the show historic l We got news to talk about. We got some mailbag if we got time and a reminder, the ultimate draft kit available for pre-order right now. Ultimate draft kit.com to check that out if you want access to everything we offer all year long, including all the in-season app, tools and resources and lineup optimizer, everything we do, including the ultimate draft kit, you can become an ultimate supporter at jointhefoot.com, become a foot clan.
member over there and just get access to everything and make it really easy for yourself our quick question of the day comes from charles in oklahoma hello ballers doing a first time dynasty startup and just wondering if you had any tips or suggestions to make it as fun as possible thank you well i mean first of all draft all the best players that will make your league way more fun dynasty startup man you better start hydrating multiple days before you got like some reload the something that somehow the general public doesn't yet understand this if you're hydrating day of it's done yeah you're it's too late you are not hydrating you must hydrate at least the day before for any type of strenuous situation and a dynasty startup draft if you have never done one clear the schedule
I mean, imagine our, so our main league of record draft, we have 11 rounds because we've got keepers in there. And that lasts several hours. We do it in person, offline, which is, honestly, that's my biggest answer to this question is try to do your, you only have one dynasty startup. ever. If you guys and gals and whoever's in your league are are geographically in the same place or even able to take a trip to, you know, let's all go to Vegas for a draft. If you can draft in person. Yes. It is so much fun. However, what Mike is saying is, you know, you're going to end up going 30 rounds. So yeah, get your pushups in. Get prepped for a long draft. Make sure you've got lunch and dinner.
Do you remember ours? I do. I do remember ours. It was an eternity. It was so much fun for at least 75% of it. Where was it? That was at my house. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. Okay. Yeah. I don't remember it at all. You blocked it out. Yeah. It's a long journey. But it's fun. And let me ask you a side question as a follow up. Because he's asking about how to make the draft as fun as possible. You joked about drafting the best players. How much of a, like we have dynasty startup rankings. I'm just curious how much you yourself are willing to bend the rankings to draft players you love because it's a dynasty league. Oh, every time. Yeah. Going against the grain of not necessarily what big, because you're going to have this player a lot longer in theory and usually. I mean, there's a lot of turnover on everybody's roster.
if there's a player that you really love, especially if it's a younger player. It's like, I'm just in love. Yeah, if it's Cam Scataboo. Yeah, exactly. I would draft Cam Scat. Well, yeah, right now. Bad example. Right. Bad example with the injury and the Harbaugh. You're more worried about the Harbaugh than the Jeremiah love. Yeah, I mean, I really am. The only. I just can't imagine a team that has. Scataboo, Tyrone, Tracy, and Singletary would take love. Yes. Good. But if anyone would, it would be Harbaugh. I don't feel like he will do that. I just think that oil and water. He's a ground up guy. The Titans need to remove the option. Titans do the wrong thing. And draft a running back at number four. Well, there were some reports, right, that neither of those teams were really going to take him. And Washington's the first team that.
was considered. I did not see that. So, I mean, there's, you can hear rumors on all sides of everything because some of it is smoke. All I know is that if you want love, you need to trade to three. Right. Uh, GM's out there. Yeah. Come and get them. Yeah. There you go. All right. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. All right, let's talk some news. The Falcons. Diabolical. The Falcons are signing Brian Robinson Jr. to a one-year deal worth of $2.5 million. They lost Tyler Alger to Arizona. This guy was already a problem. It already happened last year. On the sleeper platform.
When you're drafting, and I think right now that's the... This is going to happen thousands of times. That's the most common platform right now. Obviously, lots of drafts on different platforms, but they display their players, first initial, last name, position, and team. And so if you didn't pay attention last year to the team, you could have accidentally... drafted Brian Robinson, which people did. But now he shares a team with Beijon. It's B. Robinson, Atlanta Falcons running back. I mean, you gotta be sweating. Yes. You're, you are binoculars on looking for the junior. You're like, I'm not getting the junior. You don't want the junior here. Don't take the junior. Uh, what, what's Bejohn Robinson's number? Is he seven? I think he's seven. Okay. And Mooney was.
Mooney. Fake seven. Moody was one. Well, I was just saying, I think Brian Robinson was, uh, he was eight in Washington. Oh no, he better not go to one. Oh man. If he takes Jersey one, it's over. Because you already, I was already having a problem. Darnel Mooney. Mooney. I mean, half the size of Bejan plays a different position. You will be done. Oh, they've got to do it. They've got to. I'm like. I want to watch the world burn every time that he's in there and everyone thinks it's Bejean. I mean, this is, Algear is a better player than Brian Robinson, Jr. But I would agree. Brian Robinson is still a larger physical back. They need a depth. I'm not concerned about Brian Robinson. Yeah, it shouldn't be a big deal. I think the question here from a fantasy perspective is, is this enough of an impact?
you know, the Jamir Gibbs versus Bijon argument at the 101st David Montgomery left and Tyler Alger left. Brian Robinson coming to town. Will that vulture B. Robinson? Will B. Robinson coming to, will B. Robinson volcher B. Robinson? Right. Enough to make Jay Gibbs the first, the first draft. Well, I, Pacheco, is about the same as B. Robinson in terms of my concern level. They're both in the same tier of they're both downgrades to the players that were there before. Algier and David Montgomery were much bigger threats to both Jay Gibbs and B. Robinson for non senior. Sleeper, you got the room for that's what they need to do. This needs to be the year Bijon decides to be called Bijan Robinson senior. Not junior. Not junior. Mike, you've got to be happy. I know you're happy. Joe Flacco back to the Bengals on a year deal. My dynasty team loves it.
Yeah. And honestly, you just want your guys, we all want Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, Chase Brown to be functional if the often injured Burrow is injured. Yeah, this is fantastic news of a true actual insurance running or a quarterback. And not just if you have Burrow and Burrow misses time, like if he's out. You will be able to pick up Flacco and simply play him. But to have the other players continue, in fact, last year, Jamar Chase, his numbers were better with Joe Flacco compared to Joe Burrow ever so slightly. I don't, that's not like a 28 targets a game. Yeah, that's not a play Joe Flacco. It's just a, hey, if Burrow misses the time like he almost always does, don't sweat it. Honestly.
Everybody can get injured in the league. I know Burrow has had more injuries, but Stafford has been injured plenty of times. He's got a back injury. Darnold could get injured. To me, when you're looking at those top three wide receivers right now in fantasy, this is a good enough tiebreaker to me that should the starting quarterback go down, I'm not having to worry about Drew Locke or Stetson Bennett or Jalen Milrow as trying to support my number two pick in the draft. Joe Flacko we know could get it done. There is a report this morning, the athletic, saying it's a 60-40 chance that Breece Hall signs an extension with the Jets after the NFL draft. As opposed to playing on the franchise, which is, this is interesting to me. I know that the Jets have always, they've said we want to get Brees Hall back with the long-term extension. Their actions certainly have not really said that.
considering you should have extended him a year ago. But this, Jason, how do you feel about this? Don't do it. That's how I feel about it. Don't do it, Breece. Don't. Generational wealth. Look, financially, sure, do it. But what about me and my dynasty team? So next year, in theory, I mean, the franchise tag is there for any of the great players. Jonathan Taylor. will probably get franchise if they don't come to an agreement. Bijon. Oh, Bison. There was the report, I think from Schaefter of like get ready for Gibbs, H.N and Bijon. We should see a market reset for the running back. They probably, those guys probably won't hit the open market. And if Jonathan Taylor is also franchised, then that would really mean Brees Hall is the.
king of free agency. I can't fathom a double franchise tag in a row on a running back. Right. So I would, if I'm Breece's agent, I would say just play one more year, stay healthy, go get a bag for a different team. He'll be, don't make the decision to get injured, Breece. 25. Yeah, see, that's. Decide to stay healthy. It's just mental. You sound like pook or something. Um, 2026. We have our kickoff schedule for Wednesday, September 9th in Seattle. You heard that right. Wednesday. Yeah. Because Thursday is going down under. Is it? Yeah. Thursday is going to be Melbourne? Melbourne. Sorry. I don't know. Melbourne. I know they always, they like to go up. Yeah. Now what time. I haven't been there. So I'm curious about this. So the season's going to kick off on Wednesday. Some people are really excited about it. Some people are.
I'm happy. I don't like the like football every day of the week thing that they're trying to do. However, by the time week one comes around, I'm going to be so excited. It's the first week. I want that. But yeah, but it's a slippery slope because everyone's excited and then it's going to happen. Anyways, what I'm concerned about is because this game is coming from down under on Thursday, what time is it here? It's 8.30 Eastern. All right. Okay. PM. What time is it there? I guess thank you for the following. It's the future. It's the morning of the future. So they will be playing Friday morning. Mm-hmm. Okay. Got it. I mean, this is how the sun works. Do we care that the Eagles signed Elijah Moore or the saints signed Zach Wilson or the falcons signed Tyler Goodson? Are you talking about Elijah Moore, just one season removed from 100 targets in Cleveland? Kind of. Per the tweets? Reporters, stop it.
I don't need your interjection. Elijah Moore is on a nice Laquan Treadwell arc in terms of just being in the league for a long time. I can't believe Laquan Treadwell. One of the greatest busts. of all like he's up there with the Cory Coleman and the Marks Russell like he was supposed to be he has got to be an amazing locker room he just has to just the best like he probably picks up all the towels I've never seen a he like cleans an outright bust which he is he's not a disappointment like Marvin Harrison Jr. right now is not a bust no Marvin Harrison Jr. is just disappointing because you drafted him so high this is an outright bust who has stayed in the league for a decade
He's played continually and no one knows it. Yeah, he's still in the league. Dude, I totally forgot. Laquan Treadwell, year one, first round wide receiver selection by the Minnesota Vikings accumulated the total statistics of one reception for 15 yards. No, no, no, this is even better. He's still in the league, right? Here's his last four years. Total receptions. Six, then one. And by the way, we're starting in 2022. Six. one zero zero seven receptions of the last four years still signing contracts he appeared in 10 it says he was in 10 games last year this is it's six percent of snaps this has got to be like a special teams thing oh this is an amazing job he's figured out yeah good for you man I mean he'll you're vested your retirement health insurance like good for you hanging on
And isn't it like every year you play, you get a little bit more for some like that. He's going for it. We'll take a quick break. We'll come back with the regress or impress. Looking good there, Andy. New graphic, huh? Oh, man. A little little birthday present for me. Someone's been working out. Regress or impressed. We're going to start with second half studs from last year and talk through the trends that we saw at the end of the 2025 season and whether we believe these players will regress or impress in 2026. I love this first name. Yeah, I mean, this is... This is... This one is an interesting conversation. Yeah, because I see the outcomes really being... Like, I could talk myself very heavily into both sides. Yeah. So Trevor Lawrence, quarterback at the Jacksonville Jaguar's, amazing season for them, was super impressive after the buy week. He got it figured out. Weeks one through seven, he was the quarterback 13, 16 fancy points a game. But guys, after the buy.
22.6 fantasy points a game. You know, the quarterback won. Over that time period. Over that time period. He finished the season as the quarterback four, basically 20 fantasy points per game, which was his career high, in year five, first year with Leon Cohen. You've got Liam Cohen. How did you manage to do that? The N and the M. Yeah. Yeah, that's impressive. Yeah. That's cool. Dylan Gabriel. Gillen Dabriel. Gillen Dabriel. Oh yeah, you could do this with anything. Just give me a name and watch out. Okay. Bejan Robinson. Okay. No, I'm going, oh man, I was going to do your name. Yours is going to be hard. I would not. I'd stop while your head. You might walk into a word you don't want to say. Yeah. That's true. Good advice. Were you in the middle of a thought? He was. I was at the end. Oh. No. I was. What happened was I was in the middle of a thought, but the bridge collapsed.
Oh, and now it's lost. I'm in the ocean. Here's why it's easy to be on both sides of the argument for Trevor Lawrence. His success was over, it wasn't like three or four weeks. Like we've had some of these regressor impress where it's the last three weeks of a season and it's amazing. This was from week eight on, although I would say he kind of turned on the jets for the last four weeks. I mean, he had three top five finishes in that stretch. But you've got other reasons to believe, right? The draft capital, the potential for him coming in, did he get unlocked with Liam Cohen? The fact that that offense is going to be stable for another season, not always the case for Trevor Lawrence historically. You have Liam Cohen in there with, you know, tons of weapons in the receiver. They really do, yeah. I mean, part of the second half of that season was Jacobi Myers arriving. And Travis Hunter was out for a lot of it. He'll be back. And Brian Thomas Jr., you know, do they get that figured out?
great tight in you know i you can also have the argument um you know one of the arguments that we have against uh jordan love is that when josh jacobs came to town they were able to run the ball much better and they didn't need to rely on the the passing him travis etienne leaving you know travis etienne a couple years ago had 11 rushing touchdowns had seven last year like that that puts the the team a little bit more could on the arm of Trevor Lawrence going into year two in this system and I will say this is probably better on the ground I I really want to be a yeah you're true I mean maybe as a goal line back to is an upgrade but whether or not they view that schematically and decision wise like hey we're going to really rely on rushing the touchdowns in when we get around there I don't know that that's true um but Trevor Lawrence and we
Sam Darnold was drafted very, very high, had many years before it looked like he was competent, several teams. And you think, okay, well, we're going into year six. We know who Trevor Lawrence is. Trevor Lawrence is 26 years old. He's a, he, if he worked here at our studio, we would call him a child. Right. For sure, we'd call him a horse child. And, and we would say, hey, horse child, you're still getting better. And so I do think... Oh my gosh. I mean, you know if he worked here, we'd call him a horse child. There's no way we wouldn't. A baby horse, maybe, a pony? I don't know what we'd call him, but he might... I don't think anybody's ever called anything a horse child. My go on. My point, obviously, is he actually might still be getting much better. What, outsiders on this? Yeah, there we go. Pony boy is a great character. Stay called Trevor Lawrence. His age, I think, is what?
really pushes me to think maybe he did level up and figure something out. Also, the willingness, and this has been something that is in his capabilities that he was not doing enough. And it was so frustrating, so frustrating watching him with all the opportunities to run the ball and pick stuff up with his legs and he didn't do it. Horse legs. With his, I mean, come on, if you're a horse, gallop, go, man. Put them shoes on and trot. And, but I do, I do think, I think he's leveled up. I think it's going, I think he's going to continue to impress. The, I'm on the impress side. The, the questionable things will be, so that time period you said where he was, the QB1 in points, it's after the biweek. Well, he had seven rushing touchdowns in that time. And will that sort of a thing continue going? Like, will that?
regress or impressed. You know, Baker Mayfield under, under Cohen did see kind of his first spike in rushing. So is, is that truly a part of the offense where they got to the biweek and Cohen was like, dude, pony boy, run. You are, you're humongous. Did you just get in on it? I pony boys a fun name. Yeah. Pony boy's good. I don't feel as insulting when I'm going with a classic literary character. Pony boy versus horse child. Pony boy's better. Pony boy's kinder. Pony boy is a great character. Yeah, a literary icon. Wait, what is that from? The outsiders. Oops. Yeah, not everybody's as learned as us, Mike. Jason. I'm normal. It was like, read a book. And you are, you know, there's a musical.
Oh, okay. I saw it on Broadway. Stay golden. Um, yeah, he's not a, he's not a full anymore. There's a me foul. How do you say that? No, you, there's a musical. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Outsiders, great musical. So it's not foul. Okay. Fowl is like a bird. Or like a penalty. Right. The fact, like, I've never heard this argument of, you know, it's all the movie. Going regress on Jason, impress on Trevor Lawrence. Movies, the movie book people. It's like, oh, the book was better. Now we have book musical? Book musical and the musicals better. The musicals better than the book. It is. Oh, what a world we live in. So those are my biggest questions for Pony Boy about Will. Will he be rushing in that many touchdowns? Because 959 yards, that's not crazy. Lawrence has had a year of 334, 339. So the yardage didn't spike to a place that we've never seen before. Do you expect it to hit from the starting gate?
I think if we can get the blinders on him, I think that he could zero in and really take this derby to a new place. Did we mention he also had 8.6% of his pass attempts were dropped, which is the highest. I mean, shout out to Brian Thomas for everything he did for that. Shout out to BTJ. But the 8.6, that's tied for the highest rate of any quarterback over the last four years. So you're talking. 400 potential yards, which you're not going to get all of that, but of course, you still got some of those back. But that's a lot of drops that I don't think will happen. And Brian Thomas cleaned up his drop problem over the second half. Are we prepared to move on to the next name? So right now an underdog, he's going at quarterback 10. Yeah, that would be a good final question there is where you think he'll end up. I would say, I don't mind that. If he ends up as.
quarterback seven. Does that fit into the impress category? Quarterback seven would be... I think it would continue the trend that he had last year. So I'd say he would continue impressing. However, I wouldn't be happy with drafting him. Yeah. I mean, those are two different conversations, whether or not you believe... Like, I think Trevor Lawrence continues to impress. He's probably not the quarterback that I'm going to leave my drafts with because... When you're coming off of a great year like he just had, he will be drafted not as a late round quarterback. Does it feel like Baker? Yeah, very, very similar to Baker. When he was coming off of his. But he can run. Well, no, he still has Cohen. Baker lost the coach. Yeah. Chase Brown. Impress. He was on the Regressor Impress episode last year.
RB 19 for the first half, RB5 for the second half of the year. Yeah, he was both. He was regress impress last year. Yeah, it was not through five weeks. He was pretty unstartable. Correct. But he was a victim of the Joe Burroughs injury as well. Like whatever magic Jake Browning had filling in for Joe Burrow the first time, that. the pixie dust wore off and it was an absolute disaster. Joe Flacco comes out. I was going to say old man Joe Flacco comes in somehow fixes everything and then Joe Burrow comes back and everything is great. Chase Brown is you still have to be under watch of, you know, with the draft. The draft. I don't think that they will replace him. I, you know, there was the whispers of extension talk.
That was a couple months ago, so maybe that's still going on in the background. And if a Chase Brown extension comes through, then I will have no fears, no worries, my chips will be all. We were asked a question on the forecast yesterday of what would be some things that would happen this year to prove that the year of Mike is over? And this would be one of those. Like if they were to draft a replacement, you know, spend the second round pick on a running back. Oh, that would be devastating. That would be very anti-mic. It probably won't happen. I think they're very committed to Chase Brown and believe in him. He played the entire season, stayed healthy, turned it on over the back half of the year. They've got so many needs on the defensive side of the football. Exactly. Last year, they picked up Taj Boyd, right? Later in the draft as a- He just got really no play. Got no opportunity. The way, like one thing you can be happy about with Chase Brown is that they didn't make a change at the head coach position, even though Jason wanted them to. Right.