Week 9 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Bizarro Week - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8

Yeah, I mean, it makes sense to be parham. This is a really ham versus parham situation. We will vet and come back to you, Footclan. Either way, we will launch an investigation. Regardless of the result, we will probably go parham. Oh, my goodness. Don't miss this last tight-end stud. Let's get to the poopers. Evan Ingram? Evan Ingram is a stud with his three for 38, but he got another touchdown. That's right.

It was a 30-yard touchdown, and it was a beautiful catch. So he added eight more yards. Has anybody ever seen McCall Hardman and Evan Ingram in the same room? Are they the same player? No players get more snaps and more opportunity to deliver no value. That Hardman drop? I don't know if you saw it. I didn't see the drop. It was like for a, I think it was third, going for first down. No, I think it was fourth. And he's not even.

It's not the look away. He's looking at the ball. It hits him right in the hands. Then he looks away and forgot the part where you close the hands. He also had a ridiculous penalty on a motion where they got a false start on the goal line. He has brain farts every game. I mean, he's done this for years. I can't. It's honestly, I was talking to Smiz. And he's like, it's the eighth wonder of the world. I'm a Cole Hardman who plays with Patrick Mahomes for this many years.

can never give you a special game. It's almost like he was overdrafted because they thought that they needed a replacement fast wide receiver. Yes, yes. I mean, it very much. Because when it happened, all of us went, huh? There's no reason why. I mean, if John Ross was on that team, if Henry Ruggies before all this stuff was on that team, it's a very similar thing where it's like kind of one trick pony that makes mistakes. It sucks. So at least you can.

I'm just surprised the team hasn't formally moved elsewhere. Right. Like involved Pringle more often or Marcus Robinson. Because he's just so fast. Yeah. Well, wait 24 hours and Odell Beckham can show you what. Oh, no. You got any, how does he not go to Seattle? Oh, man. How does he not go to Seattle? Why would he need to go to Seattle? Because. They've got D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. They do, they do stuff like this.

Yeah, I mean, we'll see. He's expected to be released today. They're just the highest on the list that look like a team that thinks they're not going to believe that they're out of contention. He should be claimed or cleared by, what is it, 1 p.m. Eastern or 1 p.m. Pacific tomorrow. Seems like he will not be claimed because he's already telling teams, he's already posturing that if you're a bad team and you claim him, but he's not going to go play for you. Yeah, he says there's going to be issues. Right, which.

They already knew that, Odell. That's not breaking news. No. Issues are being factored into this signing. All right. Poopped in his big boy pants. Fill up them trousers. Josh Allen is the biggest pooper of the week. Yeah. No touchdown passes. Two interceptions. You know what's gaining some popularity? Have you noticed this? There's something getting real popular in the NFL right now. Oh, do tell. And this is the...

I look ridiculous interception. Oh, yeah. First Carson Wins kind of did it. And then it was like, and then Josh and I was like, I'm falling down, but nope, I'm going to throw the ball to my namesake. And then you saw Matthew Stafford's like, I went in on this last night with the tornado interception. Yeah, tornado interceptions are all the rage. I mean, it's like if you get, it's, if you get sacked. Just throw it.

Just chuck it, man. Close those eyes and give it a whirl. I mean, this was, this is insane because this is the kind of game where you're like, okay, even after the first half, you're shaking your head, you're going, this is the kind of team that just, in the second half they mop the floor with them. Exactly. Two weeks in a row, I paid up for Josh Allen in our, in our draft Kings challenge. And last week, he sucked the first half. And then was the number one quarterback on the week. So I did it again. And he did not.

He did not show up at the end of this game. He was terrible. And so was Patrick Mahomes. So you're two. We need to have a discussion about Patrick Mahomes because I get it. Mahomes is incredible. He's electric. That contract won a Super Bowl already. That contract's electric. Oh, I wish I had that contract. The last five weeks, he has been a top 12 quarterback one time.

including the last three weeks where he was quarterback 22, 17, and quarterback 20 currently on the week. That could go down after Monday nights games. What, like, what do you do here with, because the first month of the season was three touchdowns, three touchdowns, three touchdowns, five touchdowns. It was everything that you wanted Mahomes to be when you drafted him in the second or the third round.

Like, legitimately, what are we doing here for fantasy football with Patrick Mahomes? I think that you can do one of two things. I'm not going to necessarily trade for him because the capital that you usually need for a big name like that is... I think you might be able to get a decent discount right now. And I feel like you can still get a haul because he's Patrick...

freaking Mahomes. You offer him in a trade if you have him, and it's still going to carry weight. Odell Beckham has sucked for years, and you could still trade him for value, because when you've got the tippy top name value, the commercials on every station with your face in it, your value is just secure. Well, and the championships with his name inscribed on them, I mean, it's...

There's still a really good chance that Patrick Mahomes is dominant the rest of the year. Absolutely. Are you trading for or trading away? I'd be trading away. Yeah, me too. Because I think the value I can get trading away is better than what I have to pay to go get him. And if you go get him, guess who you're starting every week no matter what? This happens, right? Like the superstars that you draft with high capital can't leave your lineup. It's just like it's like an unwritten rule. It's a lock.

Because you just can't be the guy that spent that draft pick that put him on your bench. And that's a problem. That's why streaming quarterbacks is a mental benefit to you as a fantasy player. Joe Burrow. Oh, wow, was he bad? He did it. He had a nice, nice kind of awkward looking interception. I played him.

everywhere. I saw that. I have, I mean, he destroyed my soul this weekend. And, and it was him. It was, he, he was, you know, sometimes it's like, oh, the interception, not your fault. This was all him. He just flat out. Red zone interception, six. I mean, it was, it was, it was putrid. I was all in on, on Burrow this week, and it did not work out. No touchdowns.

Two interceptions. You weren't factoring in Cleveland not having OBJ on the team. Right. I didn't know the morale boost was coming so quickly. So, yeah, that was a bad one. Joe Burrow now goes to a bye week, comes back. I mean, I'm not going to overreact to how bad it was. Obviously, that's going to be a down game for all his receiving options. I assume that this was Jamar Chase's first bad week. Certainly no touchdown. Yeah, and Matthew Stafford had an off game.

yesterday and he's pretty much single-handedly lost the game for his team between the goal line interception and following that up with the pick six I mean it was it was over it gave him 14 points the game was over it was a it was a strange game for the Rams of I mean multiple sacks where it looked like I don't know if I didn't I haven't seen the eye in the sky camera but it looked like they were coverage sacks too so it was the Rams did not have it together last night how can I was thinking about this on the drive-in how can

teams get so much better. Like they lost Derek Henry, right? And their defense was trash. And now they're like, well, we lost Derek Henry. We're going to have to be good at defense. Well, they had to change the philosophy of the team. It's like, so now they were just, they shut down the Rams. Their defense stepped up. It's like, hey, guys, you know, you could have maybe played like this when Derek Henry was here. You didn't have to wait for the injury. But there's something about like the human condition of like, well, now we.

Now we have to. And when you have to and your backs against the wall, you play better. The Cardinals did. Yeah, it's just crazy that that stuff actually happens in real life. Well, it just shows that this weekend of all weekends, you know, the whole every given Sunday thing or any given Sunday. It's like the difference between elite and the worst is like a, it's razor thin. It's like these guys showed up in Jacksonville to play harder this week. And that was enough to beat one of the best teams in football.

It's crazy. It's definitely crazy. And Tennessee has the easiest schedule of the rest of the season. How crazy. They've dominated, too, because they just had a murderer's row of, you know, they just beat like three of the best teams in the NFL. And I just want to remind people of the shalacking that the Cardinals gave them week one. And the Jets. The Jets beat them too. That's right. What a weird world.

Running back stinkers. I want to know if you're concerned. Ready? Aaron Jones. Yes. I mean, with the way that they have... Isn't this just the Jordan Love effect? Maybe. Partially. But, so it could be just Jordan Love, but it's A.J. Dylan is my worry. My worry is simply that A.J. Dylan, I mean, it felt like he got more run. Now, obviously, Aaron Jones played 63% of the snaps. So he didn't necessarily, you know,

Aaron Jones was on the field, but it was really too close of a timeshare for me to be excited. Now, obviously, if the offense is better and Aaron Rogers is there, then great. They're going to score more than checks, notes, zero points. No, they got, they scored. That's right, Alan Lazard. This is Camara and Ingram. It's the same situation. Camara, since Ingram's been there, is in the 60% snap totals. You need the office to move.

and you need him to get in the end zone. I don't have any differing concerns this week than I did last week on Aaron Jones. Yeah, maybe. I mean, what about the fact that you might possibly be without Aaron Rogers for another game? I mean, it would be a problem. I mean, it's going to be a problem for both of them, for sure. The offense couldn't move. Your ceiling is messed up. Yeah. So.

which I think if people want to worry about Alvin Camara's ceiling, if they don't have Winston and you have a right to do so there as well. Two targets, no catches. Jordan Love means don't be all in on Aaron Jones next week. Yeah, I suppose. Do you think Rogers plays? I have no idea. It's too early to know. I don't know. But I do think it's worth saying that the Packers straight up without a doubt made a mistake by trading up their first round to get.

What they got last night was what they were hoping the future. And obviously he's young. That's his first start. But it's like, dude, you had Aaron Rogers. This guy is not so special that you needed to trade up and get him years in advance. Just it's a mistake. It's just flat out. You were wrong. It was a mistake regardless of how love played, right? Yes. Potentially. But if love sucks. Last night can't be an indictment on the man's career.

No, but otherwise Justin Fields career is over. Because that's how he played. He played like Justin Fields. Sure. And Justin Fields career might be able. Fields is getting better. Darrell Henderson. Yeah. On and off the field due to injury. Yeah. Super disappointing night. Boston Scott. Jordan Howard ended up with 17 carries. Boston Scott just 10. I mean, I don't know if he had big boy pants to poop, but he had pants. No, but this, like, it needs to be highlighted of this is a.

you know, a big whiff here of one of those, you, in hindsight, you can see it coming because last week when they were dominant, the Eagles, you know, crushed Detroit, it was Bossa Scott in the first quarter. And then Jordan Howard started to get worked in. And even though Bossa Scott ended the game as the, you know, he was the main guy in the box score, Jordan Howard, they...

really started to turn to him, and the turn kept going, and Jordan Howard was the primary ball carrier. And then, of course, of course, Kenneth Gainwell had to score a rushing touchdown just to make everyone feel terrible about all Eagles running backs. Which you should feel terrible about them all.

Yes, you should feel terrible about them all going forward. Jordan Howard is going to be more involved. Nick Siriani said he, quote, has to make Jordan Howard a permanent part of the offense, even after Miles Sanders gets back, which means I'm washing my hands of the whole thing. And no one's had a worse season than Mike Davis, right? I mean, nine for 13. Considering his opportunity? Yeah, Mike Davis has been an unmitigated disaster. Every play that they give him the football is a play that they'll never get back. Oh, that's well said.